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February 8, 2016

House Leaders Seize on Ted Cruz’s Idea to End Shutdown (Updated)

Updated 4:23 p.m. | The House will vote Tuesday evening on three bills to reopen various government programs that were shuttered when appropriations lapsed less than 24 hours ago.

One will allow veterans to continue receiving benefits, one will fund daily operation of national parks and museums and one will give the District of Columbia the authority to spend its own funds in the absence of congressional authorization.

The suite of bills is part of a larger plan GOP leaders unveiled on Tuesday afternoon wherein Congress can ensure certain key government functions remain operational — without conceding on a full continuing resolution that doesn’t defund or delay certain provisions of the 2010 health care law.

Though Republican aides said the idea did not originate in the other chamber, Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, floated the idea on Monday.

The substance and sequence of all these bills has not yet been determined, but they are not expected to include extraneous policy riders regarding Obamacare. All of the mini-CRs would go to Dec. 15 and would fund agencies at the same sequester level as proposed under the comprehensive CR that the chambers have been battling over for the past week and a half.

Democratic votes will be needed for passage, however, considering a two-thirds majority is needed for bills on the suspension calendar. And so far, that support isn’t guaranteed.

“The House majority apparently can’t take the heat from the fire they lit,” said Appropriations Committee ranking member Nita Lowey, D-N.Y., in a statement. “Why is opening parks more important than ensuring seniors, poor mothers and children have access to meals and critical services? Ending the shutdown couldn’t be more simple — stop playing games and pass the reasonable bill the Senate and the White House have already agreed to.”

Though House Democrats will likely be challenged for “no” votes against non-controversial measures that help veterans and reopen museums to the nation’s tourists, Lowey’s arguments against the strategy suggests that lawmakers will be able to frame their opposition around the House GOP’s apparent “picking and choosing.”

Rep. Marlin Stutzman, R-Ind., confirmed that this new plan was, in part, political: funding the IRS and the Environmental Protection Agency, he said, were at the bottom of the GOP’s list for reopening.

Senate Democrats have already rejected the approach, saying they want the entire government to be funded.

“We just decided in there we’re not going to do that,” Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, said after leaving Tuesday’s Senate Democratic Conference meeting.

White House spokesman Jay Carney also ripped the idea as “not serious.”

“If they want to open the government, they should open the government,” Carney said.

 Niels Lesniewski and Steven T. Dennis contributed to this report.

  • juvus

    haha! That is exactly what they should be doing. That Ted Cruz thinks he is so smart, but he couldn’t play chess with a 5th grader.

    Send a limited CR opening one agency at the time and the president signs them all. And by Friday 90% of the government is open. I am sure the EPA would have to wait a decade before they get funding again. lol
    It will be known as the the EPA shutdown of 2013.

    • LordMike

      I hope you enjoy drinking your contaminated water…

      • Bravadu

        Or tap water that you can set on fire… don’t use that water to extinguish flames

    • StopThisMadness

      I was reading your other comments under your Disqus and you are overly obsessed with Ted Cruz, huh? Like restraining order obsessed. Yikes.

      • Bravadu

        Ted Cruz is a dolt, but he’s now famous, will get a book deal worth millions like that pig in lipstick, maybe even the next head of the Heritage Foundation. So life is all set for Ted Cruz.

    • Michael Medved

      So you agree with Ted, but he is an idiot? it.

    • Eric Sansoni

      Princeton and Harvard thought he was smart too.

      • Valley Forge

        Harvard thought Obama was smart too, or at least nice window dressing.

        • gfstiel

          Shows what affirmative action gets you.

  • JulianG3

    Let Obama veto these or Sen. Reid not consider them, then who is trying to shut down the government? Pass everthing separately except ObamaCar funding and dare the Democrats not to pass these.

    • Jonathan Strange

      Obamacare is not even in the CR, its already funded.

      • therightmano


        So why is Reid and the other Democrats refusing to accept the CR that excludes Obamacare funding?

        Hint: Don’t believe the lies you are being fed…

        • Bravadu

          The parks are closed but Obamacare is now open for business, technical glitches in some of the states aside.
          So what’s not funded?

        • Jonathan Strange

          Because the bill they keep sending doesn’t “leave out” Obamacare money, it specifically creates a law banning the money already in the program from being disperesed.

          That is why is up and running. ACA is already funded, the GOP is trying to De-Fund it by holding the Gov’t hostage.

          Liberal or Conservative, that’s a bad tactic for the whole country and definitely sets a chilling precedent for how we balance partisan fights with responsible governing.

          • D2GM76JTOJENTTYN5LDPRV43V4

            “That is why is up and running.”

            This part is funny. The rest doesn’t scan.

          • Jonathan Strange

            Which part doesn’t scan?

            The Government is shutdown, but Obamacare isn’t because its funding sources are not dependent on the Continuing Resolution.

            Republicans have refused to pass the CR without a delay, defund, or repeal of key Obamacare provisions. They are in effect saying that:

            Dems want the government to function

            GOP wants no obamacare


            Government running —> Obamacare being defunded is a fair deal worth negotiating about.

            But they are all public servants, elected to administer the Government of the US. Not funding it, and certainly not defaulting on our national debt is the responsibility of the whole Congress, not a partisan priority. If the GOP doesn’t want to participate in Government, they should get out of the way and let other people do it.

          • Jerry Rockwell

            Do you understand that it is the function of the congress to fund all portions of the Government. They determine how much the government takes in Via taxes, and they decide how to spend it, not the POTUS.

          • Scott McMahan

            The chilling precedent was set when the leftists in office at the time passed a 10,000+ page law that had to be “passed so we can understand it” without public support. The chilling precedent is the law itself, forcing us to divulge information about our health and our bodies to the IRS that continues to demonstrate that it abuses its power to punish those who don’t buy into the secular democratic and anti-constitutional ideals that are most popular in DC, in the media, and in universities today. The chilling precedent is that we have a president who refuses to take responsibility for using the IRS as a weapon against his opponents, for arming those who attacked us on our own soil, killing 3000 Americans, and for overtly covering up what happened in Benghazi.

            For all who appreciate liberty and honor, we support the Republicans in the House, the only ones who have attempted to fund those aspects of the government that we most need while de-funding an unjust, socialistic, Robin Hood law that makes the Federal government bigger, more intrusive, and more abusive.

          • Jonathan Strange

            There isn’t a ton of fact there…..Here is the list of longest bills in the Houses history.

            ACA is the top, but barely

            Frankly, a bill that restructures 1/6th of the economy probably has a lot of words and thats not a bad thing.

            In terms of your other major claim. The IRS targeting scandal was a non-scandal. They investigated plenty of liberal orgs too, they were just lazy shortcuts to weed out political orgs for more scrutiny.

            Lastly the IRS isn’t talking any of your medical info. The IRS has to have access to the data hub in order to verify coverage but that isn’t the same as database access.

            The real issue in your post is that we are living in an odd world where we can’t even agree on facts. Your media sources are confusing fact with ideology. There are plenty of real reasons to criticize ACA and plenty of reforms it could use. I wish you could get constructive and talk about what you want to see.

            Your narrative implies some vast liberal conspiracy to destroy the world or the country or something. I promise you we are just like you, we care about our friends, our family and our country. We don’t have to agree to get along, but at least respect that just like you liberals are trying to make the world a better place.

          • Scott McMahan

            The emails from Lerner et al are pretty clear – target conservatives. They were asked questions about their belief systems, what books they read, who their donors are – all of which hearken Nazi-style tyranny. Of course, your sources of media wouldn’t publish these stories.

            I appreciate your tone very much. Yes we are all human beings and children of God.

            The left does have an agenda. You have good hearts – you want to help people. But there is an enormous and inevitably fatal confusion that the government should be the one doing the helping. At no time in human history does that do anything but cause enormous suffering, starvation, poverty, and death.

            What I want is a federal government that is 30% the size of today’s federal government (or smaller) that balances its budgets, pays off its debts with cash rather than future inflation, has simple, predictable, and low taxation, secure borders, employs foreign policy that protects us from those who want to kill us rather than arming them, and enables us complete freedom to practice and preach our religion, as long as we are not threatening another’s constitutional rights in so doing.

            I want leadership that takes responsibility for its mistakes and gives credit for its successes to others.

            I want to see an electorate that is informed, rational, ansd self-responsible. To do that, we need to understand and reject the outrageous bias in all of the major media. How even a leftist could look at the 2008 and 2012 elections or even at the media’s coverage of the IRS and Benghazi scandals and not admit the bias shows how effective the brainwashing campaign is. What airs on CNN or MSNBC is not the measuring stick for what is factual. What is printed online is not the measuring stick for what is factual. The sources I go to are not 100% true. There is no 100% truth printed anywhere. We need to question and apply discernment with everything with the continuous humility to be willing to be wrong with anything.

            I was a leftist liberal for the first 90% of my life. I volunteered to help campaign for Kerry, Gore, and Obama in 08. Then I started to take responsibility for my suffering and saw how much I had always pointed the finger and blamed others and believed in my victimhood. It became so obvious to me that the left relies on and promotes victimhood and the right relies on and promotes self-responsibility. I began to see how important liberty is to me and during the last presidential campaign I realized as I studied the candidates that Romney represented the kind of person I want to be and Obama represented the opposite of the kind of person I want to be. And when I expand that further, to look at the parties, it is the same. There are two ways to see what our government is. Either we see that we are a constitutional republic that protects the people from the government or we see that it is a secular democracy that interferes heavily in the peoples lives, supposedly for their own good.

            The first position embraces reason, the second relies on manipulative emotional arguments.

            I know you will probably disagree with just about everything I just wrote, and you have every right to disagree. I’m curious though. Why do you feel it is so important to defend the most obtrusive law and biggest new tax since income tax? Don’t you think we could come up with reform that would promote more competition across state lines, banned the denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions, and increased our freedom of choice without an individual mandate, without the government paying for contraception and abortions, and without government price-fixing?

          • Jonathan Strange

            Thanks for the tone Scott, it was a breath of fresh air as far as internet comment discussions go. I don’t have the time to address everything in your post but ill do my best.

            Regarding Lerner: I’m not going to defend her specific actions, but nor does she represent anyone but herself. I’ve read through the evidence and it seems to be clear that she let her biases bleed into her work, but no where does it look like the IRS has been wielded as a political weapon. Once the inquiry in the Cinci office was widened it was shown that the clerks were flagging liberal terms too, they were just creating a shortcut to potentially political orgs applying for non-proft status. The whole scandal reads some mild incompantance but certainly not orchestrated political shenanigans.

            In terms of your dream of 30% gov’t. Fine. Dream that, support those candidates, and advocate in the public space for that gov’t. That being said, you have to respect that I believe gov’t has a larger role that that.

            We have a capitalist economy and for that to function correctly, businesses need to be 100% focused on maximizing profit. The government is the citzenry’s recourse. So in my perfect America, things like healthcare which are in-elastic, should be run by the Gov’t and not by those with profit motive.

            In terms of the healthcare bill. Democrats would have loved to engage the GOP in an actual comprimise bill and I think there are things they could have gotten. Interstate health care isn’t a plan I like, without protections it just leads to a race to the bottom where the state with least regulations is the one that wins out and has all the plans. I see it behaving similar to banking (Delaware) insurance (Connecticut) or the right to work states.

            I know to you this a plus, but from my perspective when states compete over who will screw consumers/workers more leading to bigger profits for the company, that isn’t a solution that I would suggest.

            I think you and I are at the right place. You have a different vision of government which is valid.

            Where we differ is that you seem to suggest that your view is important enough that its ok for the GOP to shut down to gov’t in an attempt to stop this bill even though we had a Presidential election last year which showed that the majority of voters in this country preferred the President and ACA continuing to a chance at a Romney Presidency which would include a repeal.

            If you want me to respect your views, you have to respect that the ACA fight is over. Good luck to you moving forward and feel free to lord it over me when you get your 30% govt

          • Scott McMahan

            On the IRS, I invite you to widen your net of sources. It is pretty clear that it is a systemic problem and it’s also incredibly clear that there was communication between Ingram at the IRS and the White House. And now Ingram is in charge of policing Obamacare in IRS?

            At a minimum, it is clear there is an enormous lapse of integrity going on. Do you agree? Shouldn’t that be completely understood and resolved before the American people are mandated to become subject to the IRS in this way?

            I’d like your feedback on something, Jonathan. What I’m understanding about American history is that we have had partisan politics and differences in belief about what this country is and should be since the Declaration of Independence. And what has made this country great is that our representatives and leaders have done the incredibly hard work of compromise, of finding the way to take the best ideas from both sides of a debate and meet the American people in the middle.

            Now, we have a the biggest new law in terms of number of words, the biggest tax hike, and perhaps the most partisan law in our memory if not in American history. It is so divisive that it has alienated about half of Americans, even though they are mandated to comply with it at the expense of their pocketbooks and their health (at least that’s what we fear).

            The biggest problem that I see though with the ACA is not any of the talking points of the right. The biggest problem is that it was created without compromise. It was ramrodded through when there was a leftist majority in the house and the senate. The biggest problem is it is so one-sided and divisive that it can be called Obamacare.

            We all agree the there are some big problems in our health care system, and many of them can be successfully solved with wise legislation. What we need is not Obamacare, but Americare. We need health care legislation that takes the best ideas from both sides. Something we can all be proud of.

            Obamacare will never work. It has divided us like nothing since slavery, which is a clear indication that we need to abolish it.

            A tyrannical leader is one who refuses to compromise. Obama got elected with all kinds of flowery talk about compromise and bipartisanism, but I can’t find a single meaningful example of compromise in anything he has done. It’s very hard work to compromise. It requires humility and a commitment to listening and creating a win-win outcome. He may not be wired for it, but we need to demand it or it won’t happen. We all need to demand compromise, from both sides.

            The best time to craft health care legislation is when there is a divided congress, because otherwise it’s so hard whichever side is in power will create legislation that is more likely to alienate than to unite. So let’s demand that we table Obamacare and roll up our sleeves and get to work on Americare.

          • Jonathan Strange


            I will do my best to respond in order here. Thanks again for the tone, its a pleasure to discuss these issues without the usual back and forth the internet commands.

            In terms of the IRS, the daily caller’s article didn’t really sway my answer. Again, I can’t speak for any individual, I can only speak to the administration and their rules and guidelines. I have many friends working within the administration and I can tell you that the culture is following the rules to the letter of the law because the President has plenty of enemies looking to prove this sort of thing.

            I would say, I refuse to defend any individuals, including Lois, and that this could be an issue similar to Alberto Gonzalez under Bush where implicit desires are read as explicit permission by an overly political appointee. Neither the left nor the right has a copyright on overly partisan jackasses. Now pointing to that evidence as evidence of a wider larger conspiracy is unfair. There is a lot of speculation, not many facts.

            Your larger point was about ACA. First it was not the largest tax increase in history, that is really ridiculous:

            I will also ignore this statement: “Obamacare will never work. It has divided us like nothing since slavery, which is a clear indication that we need to abolish it.” which is just….seriously? Healthcare as divisive as human bondage?

            I think the point worth responding to is that of compromise. Please remember that President Obama and the Democrats did EVERYTHING they could to reach out to republicans. Max Baucus held up the bill in his committee for months trying to get a few republican votes. Time and time again, the bill was pushed to the right (no single payer, no public option, tax on union, cuts to medicare that paul ryan wants even though he attacked ACA for it).

            The idea itself came from the Heritage institute! Even Newt Gingrich said we needed a mandate:

            The point is, that the day after Obama was elected, Mitch McConnell and the GOP decided they would never work with this President. It isn’t just health care that has been strictly partisan, it has been everything! He can’t appoint Federal Judges, because GOP filibusters, he can’t even appoint a deputy director of the interior! We can’t even fund our Gov’t or raise the debt ceiling something this same GOP caucus did several times for George W. Bush.

            I would make the argument that the GOP made a calculation that if they supported Obama and worked with him, he would end up as one of the greatest Presidents of all time and it would take the party years to recover. Conversely if they opposed him, it would make it look like his “post-partisan” dream was naivety and Americans would become disillusioned enough not to keep electing Democrats.

            Like if you want to talk about compromise as the framers intended it, well the framers did not intend 60 votes to pass anything!

            This chart shows that the problem pre-dates the Obama admin, but has hit a huge water mark from moment he took office. In terms of the polling against ACA, anti-Obamacare IE’s outspent the administration 10:1 during 2009 and 2010 trying to destroy that bill. Time and time again polls have found most Americans support each individual piece of ACA but oppose it as a whole because of the successful advertising (I suggest watching Jimmy Kimmel ask people if they prefer ACA or Obamacare).

            Now if you spend lots and lots of money bashing someone and they don’t defend themselves, you will make them look bad in the eyes of the voting public, thats politics 101.

            So basically, I hear what you are saying, but I think you are caught in a feedback loop. The opposition to Obama said No, No, No, No over and over and over and over again because that was their strategy. Then they turned around and said, see, he won’t compromise.

            I don’t think its most republicans, but Ted Cruz and his ilk have shown no inclination to compromise with their own party members much less the administration.

            So in terms of your “roll up your sleeves” that should have been their opinion 3 years ago before a majority of the house and senate voted for the bill. I’m super sorry they don’t like it, but when you refuse to compromise you get left out of negotiations.

          • Jerry Rockwell

            There is more and more being revealed. This administration and no other administration should be able to utilize the IRS as a political hack organization. It should be off base to the POTUS or any other political hack jobs.

          • Jerry Rockwell

            Oh yes, let’s not forget Obama has been stealing your money for the last four years, and what exactly was it you got during those four years? I know, increased Medical Insurance premiums, which doubled and many business dropping all medical insurance.

          • Don

            Well, the funding for ACA did and is coming from China, and Russia. Have you people lost your minds? Do you even realize that we are selling this country out to a Communist Regime?

      • umreb78

        That;s the problem with most on the left…They bring to an intellectual discussion the equivalent of a cap gun to a nuclear war. Do you know the difference between the mandatory and the discretionary budget? Yeah, I know those are multi-syllabic words so don’t hurt yourself. If you did know the difference, you wouldn’t have posted such an inane comment…and if you don’t, your a lost cause in this conversation. Come to think of it, you have much in common with Obama, Reid, and the Wicked Witch of the West.

        • pmorton

          That’s the problem with most of the right. They think they’re having an “intellectual discussion” and they can’t even use proper English.

    • Jeff Hall

      Obamacare started today, dumb*ss.

  • timpundit

    Fastest surrender EVER.

    • therightmano

      How is it surrender to open the government one agency at a time?


      You do know that the agencies linked with Obamacare will be the last to open, right? And minus Obamacare funding…

      • Kevin Schmidt

        Shut down or no shut down, Obamacare is already funded. That’s the crazy thing about this shut down!

  • Stan

    of course you academically gifted folks know that POTUS has ten (10) days to sign a bill into law… So, I’m wondering how that flows with your by Friday 90% of the government is open thought???

  • Jeffrey Lebowski

    The House GOP thinks it can succeed by substituting a .22 caliber pistol for the high-powered semiautomatic rifle it has had trained on the Senate, the President and the country. They assume the Senate and the President will surrender if they threaten to pull the trigger several times instead of once. Harry Reid and President Obama are too smart to put up with this Ted Cruz stunt. It’s too cute by half.

    • Valley Forge

      Leave the metaphors to the adults.

  • Jeff Hall

    So Cruz’s big idea is to fund one small part of the goverment for 6 weeks?? Jesus.

  • AVAN

    So now the great idea is to open the government one department at a time? And we trust our Congress to be fair in picking those departments? You can’t run a government piecemeal. My spouse is one of the federal workers forced on furlough and this is a situation that is totally manufactured. I don’t know who these extremists are talking about when they say the majority of people don’t want Obamacare. The majority voted for Obama in the last election which speaks for itself. The idiots in Congress are pandering to the minority tea party.

    • Bravadu

      The GOP are feeling the heat over the closed parks and garbage piling up in DC. If they were allowed to open one department at a time, expect the department of education to reopen no later than 2050.
      By then, watching American Idol is all the education your kids will need

      • Freedomswatch

        Obama is the one who stopped the WWII veterans from visiting their memorial. It was Republicans who walked with them and got them access to the memorial. Obama also stopped Mayor Gray from using DC’s own funds (not Federal funds) for DC. Put the blame where it belongs. See Mayor Grays comments to Harry Reid yesterday on the steps of the Senate.

    • TJFod1

      A nation becomes lawless when the leaders are lawless. When the AG is lawless and picks and chooses, when the POTUS picks and chooses and breaks the law by making 14 ammendments to what he calls the “law of the land” . POTUS cant do that, but the AG won’t stop him and the Senate won’t stop him, so he breaks the law.

      No you’re right they can’t pick and choose, except that the top law enforcement officials in the land are picking and choosing…This is exactly what happens when a nation is no longer ruled by law, but by men

    • Steve White

      I think a 20% reduction in the size of the federal government is a great start. Federal workers averaged $114,976 in compensation (salary and benefits) in 2012, where private sector workers only averaged $65,917.

      The fact that government workers believe in ever bigger and ever more lavishly funded government is pretty obvious, and there is a political party that counts on their votes by promising to continue to grow government.

      We can not continue to sustain this “royal class” of American citizen. I think that these so called “non-essential” government workers need to be replaced by private sector employees who have about half of the compensation, and who can not unionize and corruptly vote themselves more wealth on our backs.

      Everybody else in America is cutting back too. Companies, and households have had to cut back, lost businesses, and their savings. It’s time that the protected class become regular class. Let’s begin a fundamental change of Washington! Let’s fix the real injustices.

      • Beeker

        You left out the fact that majority of the workforce are highly educated and many of the jobs are specific that can not be matched in the private sector. On top of that, the average salary you cited is for G1-14 positions however you left out the bottom rung such as G-3 or G-5 where they make far less than what is paid in the private sector that you stated. You also left the out the fact that the government does lay people off- something you don’t hear about in the media.
        It seems that you pick this information from CATO Insititute.

        • Jerry Rockwell

          Are you saying that only government officials are smart enough to run the government? How is that working out for you right now?

        • Don

          I suppose You intentionally overlooked the word NON-ESSENTIAL!

  • wildrover4

    “Rep. Marlin Stutzman, R-Ind., said the IRS and the Environmental Protection Agency are at the bottom of the GOP’s list for reopening.”

    No IRS equals no revenue. No debt ceiling increase equals no new T-Bills. So the Republican plan is to appropriate spending but not provide the funds. Got it. If anyone other than Congress did this, it would be called check kiting.

  • godblessusa

    “Fine! We won’t kill our hostage. You happy!? We’ll just maim it. Jeez, how much more can we possibly compromise?”

    — Ted Cruz

  • tpartynitwit

    Tedious Ted’s a pomaded peacock who’d take credit for the sunrise given the chance.

  • leadingedgeboomer

    No deal. These piecemeal bits only serve to ameliorate the deleterious effects of the Republicans’ intransigence. Pass a clean whole-funding CR that lasts for months, or the Republican frogs can watch helplessly as the temperature of the water in the pot in which they are stewing continues to rise.

    • Valley Forge

      All or nothing. Try selling that to an electorate, including a plurality of Democrats, that thinks the govt is too big, spends too much, and has too much debt. Oh, and that wants compromise and negotiation as well.

    • yak_disqus

      The hot water feels fine. If you wanted a “clean” CR, then the Dems in the Senate should have approved the CR where ACA mandate on individuals was delayed a year… Senate Dems make me sick. The exempt themselves from Obamacare and all their big union and Dem friends, but demand the little guy be forced into it. Hypocrites.

  • Bob Viering

    It’s no surprise that Republicans are trying to reopen the National Parks. I’m in Wyoming on business and am seeing up close the immediate negative impact of closing the National Parks. Many of them are located in either conservative states or in conservative areas so, it’s no surprise they want to take care of their supporters first and ignore programs that help Democratic constituents.

    I’m curious, do Republicans really believe Democrats are that dumb to agree to take care of Republican supporters and leave their base still damaged?

    • yak_disqus

      Actually, from the Republican perspective, it’s kind of a win-win for them. If the Dems say NO, then the story is “Mr. Obama, who is planning yet another multi-million dollar vacation on public money, wouldn;t bother to spend a lousy $30,000 to keep this park open because he wanted you to personally suffer because he didn;t get his way”
      If the Dems say YES then it shows just how unnecessary and superfluous the Dems are…

  • Valley Forge

    Yes “picking and choosing” has no place in a budget process according to Representative Willie Nelson, speaking for the Democratic leadership.

  • phantomwriter

    I believe that perhaps what should happen is lock both the Dem/Rep behind closed doors and don’t let them out until they do their job and get er done!

  • Steve White

    I think that this 20%
    reduction in the size of the federal government is a great start.
    Federal workers averaged $114,976 in compensation (salary and benefits)
    in 2012, where private sector workers only averaged $65,917.

    The fact that government workers believe in ever bigger and ever more
    lavishly funded government is pretty obvious, and there is a political
    party that counts on their votes by promising to continue to grow

    We can not continue to sustain this “royal class” of American
    citizen. I think that these so called “non-essential” government workers
    need to be replaced by private sector employees who have about half of
    the compensation, and who can not unionize and corruptly vote themselves
    more wealth on our backs.

    Everybody else in America is cutting back too. Companies, and
    households have had to cut back, lost businesses, and their savings.
    It’s time that the protected class become regular class. Let’s begin a
    fundamental change of Washington! Let’s fix the real injustices.

    What was that noise? Did I just hear a liberal head explode at the thought of this?

    • Scott McMahan

      Well put, Steve. Too rational a statement for a leftist to respond to.

  • toledojim

    Well, it’s pretty obvious that those left wingnuts who support Obama and the Democratic Party are just hell bent on blaming everything on the Republicans and are actually quite short sighted in seeing the big picture. This is about Obamacare, so, if this bill is so good how come the Senate Democrats voted to keep their premium healthcare plan, how come there has been so many exemptions and why, after three years, the software still isn’t developed to handle the people who do want to enroll? Funding the parts of the government is one approach to pay for everything except Obamacare and it actually is a bold move because now your glorious leader Harry Reid may actually have to make a decision other than to just act like a spoiled child. I say the shut down is now a direct result of no actions by Obama and Reid and at the end of the day, they have over played their hand this time.

    • MACV

      What about Obamacare … being THE LAW .. don’t you get? You think you can just break a law … anytime you don’t agree with it? I thought you guys revered the Constitution?

      Whats up with that?

  • Freedomswatch

    I did not vote for Obama, neither did I vote for Obamacare. It was crammed through on a 51 vote (which was not legal). Not a single Republican in Congress voted for Obamacare, because it is a monstrosity that is costing ordinary Americans their jobs, and what healthcare plans they previously had. Your spouse is getting paid to sit at home and can also claim unemployment benefit. The government is 83% functioning, therefore your spouse is non-essential. I would be quite happy if your spouse were permanently cut from the federal workforce, as they are obviously not essential. Also, I am not a TEA party member, I am however a freedom -loving American who is sick of the government spending my money unnecessary items, for example, a mechanical bull costing almost $50,000.
    Someday soon we will run out of “other peoples” money and you will have to suffer like the rest of us.

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