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July 25, 2014

Paul Ryan Hints at Immigration Timetable

Rep. Paul D. Ryan might have just given away the road map for House consideration of immigration reform.

“Tentatively, in October, we’re going to vote on a border security bill, an interior enforcement bill, a bill for legal immigration,” the Wisconsin Republican and Budget Committee chairman told constituents at a district town hall event Friday, according to a report by the Milwaukee-Wisconsin Journal Sentinel.

Ryan also reportedly said negotiations were underway for the chamber to vote on legislation that would provide undocumented immigrants with “probationary” visas while they waited a minimum of 15 years to attain citizenship.

The timetable is more than most members will volunteer at this point other than to say there won’t likely be any major action before the August recess, which kicks off in one week.

Lawmakers have also been reticent to discuss what specific bills will be brought to the floor and in what sequence as part of the GOP piecemeal approach to immigration reform.

The 2012 Republican candidate for vice president on Mitt Romney’s ticket and a rising star within the Republican Party, Ryan has only recently begun to lend his voice — and influence — to the chorus of calls to reform the nation’s immigration system.

Asked to confirm whether Ryan’s statements were accurate, a GOP leadership aide said there were “no scheduling announcements to make.”

  • Don England

    “and a rising star within the Republican Party” I am sick of hearing this terminology when describing politicians. They are supposed to be servants to the people who elected them and to our Country, which includes upholding our constitution. If Ryan and his sellout party pass a amnesty bill before enforcing present laws and securing our borders, He will be part of a “falling” out of majority party in 2014! We have waited 27 years for the promises of the security given in 1986. If that promise is not kept there should be nothing given to those that came here illegally. Our immigration system is not broken, we have a failure of Congress and the Executive branch to do their duty to uphold our laws and stop the fraud in the supposedly legal immigration system.

    • AbidewithMe
      • Northern_home_Southern_soul

        Here an idea for immigration reform. Any person illegally in this country SHALL be treated the same as would any illegal American be treated in that persons home country.

        Problem solved, if the US Government cant make policy decisions, then I think its only FAIR that we treat people like they treat us.

        I’m sure the illegal Mexicans would love this idea because Mexico treats her illegals on her southern boarder so well (sarc).

        • Kevin Pearson

          Unlike you, I am not deathly afraid of foreign persons and foreign countries and actually have a passport and have actually traveled to foreign countries, and I have overstayed visas and I can speak from experience that “illegal Americans” are in general completely ignored.

          Immigration laws are designed to keep certain people out and are selectively enforced and rarely if ever enforced for Americans, unless the government official is looking for a bribe

          • GortRules

            So when you overstayed your visa, you…stole someone’s SS#, had a few kids, used their public support $ programs and were a general leech? Just want to be sure we’re talking apples to apples here.

          • Kevin Pearson

            ” Any person illegally in this country SHALL be treated the same as would any illegal American be treated in that persons home country.”

            I am responding to the comment made by the poster above to the letter, You embellished by adding things that you just assume. YOU are the one that is not comparing apples to apples.

            And for YOUR information, many (Note: I didn’t say ALL) undocumented persons have ITIN numbers from the IRS so they wouldn’t be stealing SSNs, . I know as a fact challenged liberal you are allergic to research, otherwise I would tell you to look it up.

            So the fact is they DO pay taxes. At least SOME do. They have this crazy idea that if they pay taxes it will someway help them with immigration but those are too didn’t departments, even if they are both staffed by the same sort of low-life blood sucking leech on the taxpayer system, government employees.

            Plus if they pay rent they pay property taxes albeit indirectly
            Of course, since this doesn’t fit in your chauvinistic xenophobia hate-filled world view so like the typical fact-challenged liberal that you are, you reject the truth even when it is put right in front of you.

          • http://richmondtommy.wordpress.com/ Tommy Hancock

            Most don’t pay taxes, they claim more dependents so not much if any leaves their check.

          • Charles Wolf

            Most corporations don’t pay a fair tax rate on the $$$ they skim from you and me.
            Most millionaires don’t pay the same rate that you and I pay. They bought off enough tax-loopholes over the years to get away with pitifully tiny tax rates and payments.
            Most of us aren’t even paid enough to take any deductions – so we get the “standard” so-called deduction & that’s that.
            …and I never heard of any Food Stamp recepients dodging taxes by hiding having million$ in Bahamian or Swiss bank accounts.
            So ESAD all you bigots & liars.

          • Kevin Pearson

            SO WHAT? They are paying what the tax code says they owe. You and your statist ilk believe that all money is the governments and every cent that is not confiscated by the government is a “gift” or a “subsidy” from the government.

            Corporations DO NOT PAY TAXES, Consumers pay taxes. ALL corporate taxes should be abolished

            Here’s a question. If the Swiss economy is SOOOO good that the banks are paying five times the interest rate than banks in the US, why should the dysfunctional US government be entitled to the interest earned in countries that have their act together?

          • http://richmondtommy.wordpress.com/ Tommy Hancock

            Corporations are double taxed actually, stock holders are the owners and they are taxes on the earnings also. You are a ignorant Socialist that just has your hand out.

          • Kevin Pearson

            Are you REALLY that clueless? There is a difference between “withholding” and “taxes”. Of course as a fact-challenged liberal, you lack the mental capacity to understand the difference as to the other ten people fact-challenged liberals that voted up your comment.

            WHO CARES what leaves anyone’s check. It is the overall tax liability that is at issue not the withholding.

            Of course, your parasitic tax accountant likes to tell you how big the refund he got for you is. Every penny of refund you get from the IRS is testament to how stupid you are for letting the government have that money in the first place and then you have to wait until the government takes is own sweet time in getting that money back to you.

            So in essence,these people are a helluva lot smarter than you. I guess that’s why you hate them so much, because you are jealous of them.

          • zooed

            You don’t know what you are talking about, to put it gently. I processed state tax returns for years. Illegal alien tax returns always have ITIN on the front, and W2 forms attached with stolen SS numbers on them, sometimes with a different employee name than the tax filer. What’s more, 99% of the returns are refunds, utilizing “family” tax credits, many filed by single Mexican men claiming 5 or 6 nieces, nephews, adopted, foster child, etc. Preparation of these fraud-filled filings has become a cottage industry. Meanwhile, Federal and state tax authorities look the other way.

          • Kevin Pearson

            And WHO is to blame for “family” tax credits? Is it the undocumented persons? No. It is LIBERALISM that has created this welfare.

            You have swallowed the red herring. While you are barking at illegal immigration, the liberals are raping you blind.

          • Kevin Pearson

            I take it you are a liberal from a blue state, because states like Texas and Florida and a few other mostly RED states don’t have state income taxes and so don’t have state tax returns.

          • zooed

            And you are the site fool.

          • oilcanp

            I have a homeless friend, an American, who would love to pay rent, taxes, other bills.

          • http://richmondtommy.wordpress.com/ Tommy Hancock

            Well tell him to put the bottle down and find a job or two part time jobs.

          • Northern_home_Southern_soul

            How many of those so-called “illegal Americans” have you actually meet? Also how many of them are sucking from the foreign countries welfare system, r a p I n g 93 year old women to death, and stealing jobs from the in-countries nationals?
            Also who said I am deathly afraid of anyone?
            Lastly I have travelled to different countries as well and I can speak from experience that paying bribes to the “police” is a routine occurrence for even legal Americans in these countries.
            Question: Why do you hate America so much?

          • Kevin Pearson

            So no American citizen EVER has committed rape? Todd Akin would like to hear that.

          • Kevin Pearson

            This is what you said.
            “Any person illegally in this country SHALL be treated the same as would any illegal American be treated in that persons home country.”

            but you went and changed the rules because I mopped the floor with you, because you are a fact-challenged mentally defective liberal.

            I hate America so much because the educational system is so disgusting that it allows mentally defective fact challenged liberals like to actually believe that you are intelligent.

          • Northern_home_Southern_soul

            Since you are obliviously mentally retarded, Ill explain it to you again. Yes we should treat them as they would treat us. And when I say threat us I mean if an American enters a foreign country illegally, steals someone’s SS #, thereby committing fraud, operates a vehicle without proper license or insurance, causes a few accidents and then runs away, takes jobs from the locals, joins a gang and commits several violent crimes, and then proceeds to collect welfare while at the same time marching in the street demanding that the host country provide them more free stuff, they would be treated in a way that I’m sure someone with a low IQ like you could image would not be pleasant.

            You like to say Americans are treated better when they are illegally in another’s country, yet you fail to take notice that there is no country that illegal Americans’ make up 10% of that host countries population, you also fail to take into account that an illegal American is not sucking off their system and killing 10-25 native people a day (the # of Americans killed daily in the US by illegals) you also fail to note that if there is any illegal American in these countries they are likely well off (at least compared to the host nation people) and not the bottom of the barrel dependent people like the vast majority of illegals in the US (who’s own countries are glad to get rid of them).

            But facts are a tricky thing for dumb, retarded people like yourself. I can only hope an illegal doesn’t hit you in their un-licenses/un-insured car and flees the scene, or doesn’t steal your SS #, or take a job you wanted to do, or takes a spot in college that means your own child couldn’t attend, or r a p e s you daughter or murders your wife or uses up the welfare or section 8 housing you need because you obliviously cant support yourself. The above crimes happen thousands of times a day in the US, how often does it happen in other countries by illegal Americans? You are a buffoon.

          • BennyZ

            So you want these immigrants to compete with you for employment and their children to compete with your children for jobs? (Causing depressed wages.) And you want these same immigrants to bid up the prices of America’s resources (like food, housing) causing higher prices for everyone?

          • http://www.apple.com/ Norm

            They are people that deserve rights too…I know they don’t have white skin but you might have to budge.

          • BennyZ

            The United States is the 3rd most populated country in the World. Only China and India have more people! How many more should we let into the country, so you bleeding hearts can feel good? A hundred million more? A Billion?

          • http://richmondtommy.wordpress.com/ Tommy Hancock

            I don’t give a damn what color their skin is, I care that they are not here legally no matter where they are from. Protect the borders and then talk citizenship.

          • Layla

            Not when they knowingly broke the law, they don’t have rights.

          • Kevin Pearson

            Excuse me, but the LEGAL immigrants are already competing with me for employment. Because American are so spoiled and far far far far too stupid and lazy to learn math and the real degrees that require math, that we have had to let many an H1-B visa holder o come in the country LEGALLY (many – WHOM I HAVE WORKED WITH AND FOR – from countries that aren’t exactly friends to the United States) and when their H1-B expires, either they start their own companies or their company sponsors them for a green card and then they get a management level they REFUSE to hire Americans and write the job descriptions in a way that no one is capable of filling the job and so they hire MORE H1-B visas from their own country.

            I am already in competition with LEGAL immigrants. and am making about a third of what I was eight ten years ago;

          • http://www.apple.com/ Norm

            Don’t bother trying to rationalize not being an overt racist to these republicans. They hate anyone without blond hair and blue eyes.

          • BennyZ

            What a pile of manure….I have English, French, and Spanish ancestry…. I DO NOT WANT ANYONE FROM THOSE NATIONS HERE AT ALL.

          • Stanley J. Walljasper

            No, that is exaclty YOUR racist and hateful outlook, – described to the eye and hair color, then projected on others who reject your opinion.

            You just blew your thin cover. What a sorry and hateful person you portray.

          • Northern_home_Southern_soul

            Nice response. Norm and people like him (and sadly there are millions) are just spiteful, hateful and extremely ignorant people. They have been fed this nonsense about life through the teachings of extreme-liberal teachers and lazy parents.

            They feel good about themselves trying to get a rise out of other people. Think about that, their primary pleasure in life is to attack and insult other people, especially people he’s been trained to hate. And they salivate at the alter of their leaders; who they follow blindly into misery, all the while, they cheer on and push for more control over others. What a pathetic existence and waste of a life.

            I can only hope that we can stem the tide of these psychopaths before we as a country, reach the tipping point.

          • http://richmondtommy.wordpress.com/ Tommy Hancock

            You have always been a fool Norm. A lot of us have black or brown family members.

          • Stanley J. Walljasper

            B.S. overstay your visa in Mexico, Canada, Austalia, Chia….I assure you, you are going to PAY on the way out yhe door.

          • http://richmondtommy.wordpress.com/ Tommy Hancock

            OK Kevin, try getting a job illegally in most countries and see how well you do.

          • Kevin Pearson

            I don’t too many people getting jobs illegally in this country as engineers or project managers. People here working illegally aren’t doing well at all themselves

          • Layla

            Kevin, where do you live? These people are all being paid under the table. They’re keeping more money and sending it home than you and I make because of what the government takes out.

          • Kevin Pearson

            More power to them. They should be given medals for not allowing the government with more money to waste.

    • http://www.fatboy.cc/ Ted Kennedy’s SEARCH+RESCUE

      MUST SEE: ViVa La Raza, ViVa GOP Rally in Los Angeles -
      youtube.com/watch?v=ajkAP_M4ZAM

      • IAmAProudAmerican

        My daughter in law was told by an illegal that Mexico was taking over California. That was five years ago. It hasn’t gotten better for Americans since then either.

      • GWNM

        Sickening. Sad.

      • TomasoPaine

        pulling out 2006 video based on a reaction to one of the dumbest legislative proposals ever put forward by a Republican. Hardly dealing with the present debates.

    • CLG

      Ryan also voted in support of the NSA to continue to trample all over our Fourth Amendment rights. He is a total sellout and a liar.

      • crudcutter

        Establishment putz

        • Karen Walker

          All these liberal democrats keep professing that if amnesty is not passed it will be the end of the republican party. Why these RINO fools believe them is beyond me. If amnesty is passed it will be the end of the middle class Americans not just the republican party.

          • J. Jones

            The Real Republicans see the writing on the wall.

          • Daniel Martin Gray

            I don’t care WHAT Politicians CALL themselves.

            There is a LITMUS TEST they must ALL PASS, or GO!

            Either they are FOR Fiscal Responsibility, for LIMITED, CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT?

            Or they are ENEMIES of AMERICA…

          • cortney1

            And they should take a Wonderlic test

          • Jerry Doyle

            Another “rising star” turns out to be the same old, same old.

          • lib_erator

            Stars burn out.

          • Randy Rogers

            Another fizzling falling star

          • gotroy22

            Another Traitor like Rubio and Toomey.

          • paoliana

            Yep, joining another rising star- Rubio La Razza

          • J. Jones

            And that’s why the Real Republicans are leaving you behind.

          • gotroy22

            You mean Status Quo Republican Losers.

          • SonofLiberty7

            Please define “Real Republican.”
            I share some of his views, and last I checked, my membership is still paid and active.
            Is yours?

          • J. Jones

            Sure. If you’re ever in doubt then you can always recognize the Real Republicans because they are the ones that seem to be in charge of the Republican Party… you know, like Boehner and the ones that follow those leaders. As for myself, I’m a democrat.

          • pearsone

            surprise surprise
            so shutup democrat

          • J. Jones

            Ands that’s how conservatives win debates – limit the speech of their opponents.

          • Raiderwolf

            “Ands that’s how conservatives win debates – limit the speech of their opponents.”

            You are in a fantasy land to think that. What speech is being limited? Of course you liberals like to blurt out things without basis in fact or reality as if it is true when it is not. Again, what speech is being limited here? Answer that. Otherwise, it will show your claim is without merit.

          • Raiderwolf

            “Answer that. Otherwise, it will show your claim is without merit.”

            That’s what I thought, completely bogus and idiotic comment, J. Jones.

          • J. Jones

            So you’re thinking “surprise surprise so shutup democrat” isn’t an attempt to limit my speech? Amazing.

          • Raiderwolf

            One person said it. Meanwhile, a whole host of liberals say, you can’t call an illegal alien an illegal alien, for starters. That is what political correctness is all about, which liberals and Democrats, which includes you since you claim to be a Democrat, support and approve of. So you have ZERO grounds to complain about limiting speech, ZERO standing to say anything about limiting speech.

          • J. Jones

            So why is it I can’t call illegal aliens “illegal aliens?” I call them that all the time and I’m a democrat. I have just as valid grounds to complain as does any of my fellow humans even as you try to limit my speech by telling me I have “ZERO grounds to complain.”

          • Layla

            Boehner is a weak RINO who has fed too long at the trough. As a democrat, you have no principals, except possibly Cloward and Piven.

          • J. Jones
          • BillSmith9

            yet , none of them have the balls or brains to impeach an illegal muslim prez

          • J. Jones

            They take a “principled position.”

          • Raiderwolf

            It’s not principled. What principle are their positions based on? If it is principled, it’s based on bad principles.

          • J. Jones

            The principle that there is no “there” there.

          • Raiderwolf

            That doesn’t prove he is a strong leader because he is the weak leading the weak.

          • J. Jones

            It shows he was stronger than the tea people that voted against him.

          • Brian Barkley

            What Democrat would understand a principled position?

          • J. Jones

            Principled positions are fine as long as they don’t keep you from your goals. Unfortunately for those of you that are stuck on “principled positions,” the framers gave us a system of governance that depends on “give & take.”

          • Brian Barkley

            Ah, The ends justify the means. Sounds like a Democrat.

          • J. Jones

            It’s just the way the system is set up. Personally, I think the framers were smart to set it up that way, but feel free to disagree.

          • Brian Barkley

            Our Constitution was made to serve a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. Cooperation is not the same as debasement.

          • J. Jones

            The Framers gave us a system of governance that works for any group of people that want to try it in earnest. It’s a good system and works well as long as the middle does most of the driving.
            “Debasement?” I said nothing about one debasing oneself to accomplish goals.

          • Brian Barkley

            The quote is from John Adams.
            It is debasement when you surrender this nation’s founding principle of free will. Without it the justification for our individual liberty is gone. Liberal policies have no consideration for free will or individual liberty.

          • J. Jones

            John Adams was free to have his opinion. Our Constitution says otherwise, though. It’s also worth noting that even though Adams was appointed delegate to the Constitution Convention, he did not actually attend the convention.
            I haven’t surrendered my free will, why, apparently, have you?

          • Brian Barkley

            You don’t even seem to understand the concept of free will or how we justify your individual liberty on it.

          • J. Jones

            So enlighten me. What is it that you think that I’m missing about the “concept of free will?” And, of course, what makes you think I care if you “justify” my individual liberty? I don’t, but I’m amused to that you think you have to do so.

          • Brian Barkley

            Politicians will absolve you of your individual liberty without any problem if you can’t justify it. The founders understood this but you have no understanding of our underlying principles or how we use them to compel our politicians to respect our individual liberty. The concept of free will is far older than this nation, it assumes we are more than mere animals with obligations and responsibilities to our Soul that go beyond the wants and needs of this physical world.
            If you consider yourself and your fellow man nothing more than mere animals helplessly driven by our animalistic urges, desires, predilections and predispositions then how do you convince politicians to not manage our lives or compel us to do as they want “for our own good”?

          • J. Jones

            So you can offer no enlightenment on the “concept of free will?” I’m not surprised.
            I’ve got my liberty, so what happened to yours?

            The founders, as I recall, felt that our individual liberty had to be justified to no one as it is one of those inalienable rights. If you’ve lost your liberty, it’s only because you voluntarily gave it up.
            I consider my fellows to be more than mere animals. Don’t you? Nonetheless, our Constitution does works for any group that wants to try it in earnest.

          • Brian Barkley

            I’m not your professor. I’ve explained the error of your ways but clearly your arrogance precludes you doing your own homework when it will prove you’re wrong. Defining your life by our sexual proclivities is antithetical to the concept of free will.

          • J. Jones

            Uh… Talk about arrogance. You want me to do “homework” to justify your argument. Lazy, aren’t you?
            So what this about you defining your life by sexual proclivities? Is that how you define your “concept of free will?” How sad.

          • Raiderwolf

            What system? Are you saying that it is contrary to the system the framers setup to say “No”?

          • J. Jones

            The system described in our Constitution. Is there another with which we should concern ourselves?
            No, the Framers gave us a system in which the status quo is easily maintained by just saying “No.” They also gave us a system in which it is more difficult to accomplish something new without engaging in good ol’political give & take.

          • Raiderwolf

            Depends on what the goal is.

          • J. Jones

            Indeed, everyone needs to determine if their goals are worthwhile.

          • Raiderwolf

            The goals of the Republican leadership are not worthwhile because it is based on bad principle of buying votes.

          • J. Jones

            Then you should support another party and be happy.

          • Raiderwolf

            I know you don’t have any principles because you think acting on principle is a bad thing. And you are showing once again that you don’t have any core principles because you think there is nothing wrong with buying votes. You think it is perfectly fine for politicians to buy people’s votes? Talk about corruption. But someone without principles wouldn’t know corruption when they saw it.

          • J. Jones

            You don’t know anything about my principles. The trouble you’ve run into is that you don’t know how to reply so you resort to ad hominem attack. My reply offered good advice – if you’re a Republican and you think, to quote you, that ” the goals of the Republican leadership are not worthwhile because it is based on bad principle of buying votes,” then you should support another party and be happy. Was I wrong in thinking you considered yourself a Republican? If I was, I’m sorry about that… so which party do you support? Or are you one of those “independents” that doesn’t support any?

          • Brian Barkley

            or convince them to mend their ways and oppose the idiot policies of the Democrats before the world cuts up our credit card. Democrats will chew their arm off before they will put down the credit card.

          • J. Jones

            So how’s that working for you?

          • Brian Barkley

            We hold the purse strings. If the Republicans listen to their base you and your boob Obama will have to put down the credit card. Without your vote buying with other people’s money your party is toast.

          • J. Jones

            Not working very well for you, then?

          • CLG

            The US Constitution is a legal document based on a framework of principled positions. It was not intended to encourage a governance of give or take.

          • J. Jones

            It certainly was intended. There is no escaping the “give & take” of our system once the people were given a choice in how they are governed. Maybe what you’re missing is that the framer’s also built in protections against “give & take” gone wild.

          • CLG

            No, our elected representatives may only compromise on legislation that uphold, defend, and adhere to the principled positions set forth in the Constitution.

            It’s your line of reasoning why this country is $17 trillion in the hole, not counting unfunded liabilities. The federal government is now a law enforcement monster, whose duties have expanded well beyond its intended function of defending the borders of this nation or establishing treaties with other countries. The Bill of Rights applies to the people only when it is not inconvenient for the government to allow them to exercise those rights. Want to stage a protest? File for a permit and maybe they’ll allow you to do so in a free speech zone. School children are being punished like criminals because of zero tolerance policies. The federal government is using its power to persecute individuals and groups who espouse conservative or religious values. This post is being forwarded to the NSA and all applicable law enforcement agencies to be maintained in a database for no less than five years. Police have the legal authority to shoot law abiding citizens in the back without facing any criminal liability. They can even shoot your dog or send a swat team into your home without a warrant and not even have to pay for the damages they cause, much less face trial. Defend yourself from these abuses and you go to jail for life, assuming they don’t kill you first- which will be ruled justified. This is what happens when you allow politicians to ignore the Constitution and govern based a sham system of give and take. They take from the people to provide for their own security and power.

          • J. Jones

            And, for the most part, they do. But if they don’t, then the framer’s thoughtfully provided two mechanisms for correcting the situation.
            My line of reasoning? LOL. So what did you do to stop it?

          • J. Jones

            Lots of us do. Lots of us also understand that it’s hard to get things done if all you’re going to do is call everyone else names and scream “no.”

          • Raiderwolf

            That would be true if your comment accurately depicted what was happening, but it does not. Besides, there is nothing wrong with saying “No”. I think they should pass a law that says J. Jones must pay 75% of their income to the government. Now, J. Jones, don’t say “No” to that because you don’t want to stop something from being done do you?

          • J. Jones

            Oh… I’m sorry. So perhaps you could refresh our memory about all the useful legislation that Republicans have initiated and accomplished in this or the last Congress (for instance.
            Actually, you kinda’ illustrate my point – you want Congressional Republicans to pass a law to specifically punish me because you can’t think of anything better they could do. Congressional Republicans do sorta’ have that reputation, don’t they? ;)

          • BillSmith9

            if the majority of the US citizens don’t want it, why do you insist on getting it done ? do you not read or hear well.
            The guv is suppose to work for us, not impose it’s unwanted laws & ridiculous regulations on society

          • J. Jones

            Don’t want what? So if the people’s elected representatives pass the law then that’s a clear indication they feel most of their constituents support the action. If, in fact, a rep is not representing his constituents then it is his constituents’ responsibility to stop electing him/her to office. What could be simpler?
            If its the case that the people’s representatives have caused a law to be enacted that is not in agreement with our Constitution then the Framers tell us who is the arbiter of such things.
            As for my insisting that anything get done – I’m doing nothing of the sort, I’m just pointing out that in the system of governance the Framers gave us, it often takes some “give and take” to get things done.

          • BillSmith9

            name some good things Obama would do for the US if he had no resistance

          • J. Jones

            Huh? I moderately happy with the ACA. Personally, I favored Hillary, though.

          • J. Jones

            If he had no resistance? In which world would that be the case?

          • Brian Barkley

            Put down the credit card and we’ll talk. Until then quit spending imaginary money trying to do things a government is not designed to do.

          • J. Jones

            To which credit card do you refer – the Republican one, the democrat one, or the one that neither party has problems using?

          • Brian Barkley

            Either the Dollar will be trustworthy again or this nation will collapse. That some Republicans are foolish is no excuse for the complete and utter foolishness of the Democrats.

          • J. Jones

            The dollar is trustworthy. I see… so Republican credit is just about the bestest credit, eh? Don’t be silly.

          • Brian Barkley

            When government spending is less than taxes collected our Dollar is not trustworthy and it shouldn’t be.
            Democrats will chew their arm off before they will author any substantial spending reduction and you know it.

          • J. Jones

            Our dollar is trustworthy.
            At least we have the Republicans with the sequester, eh?

          • Brian Barkley

            You mean Obama’s sequester? The cuts he insisted on are not enough but he’s even howling about those.

          • J. Jones

            I mean the sequester for which the overwhelming majority of House Republicans voted. While only 50% of House democrats voted for the sequester, a full 72.5% of House Republicans voted for the sequester. If you really believe it’s “Obama’s sequester” then you need to have a serious talk with House Republicans because their overwhelming vote for the sequesters gives them a tremendous amount of “ownership.” Or do you think that maybe they thought no one would notice?

          • Brian Barkley

            Horse Hockey. sequester is Obama’s idea and he’s still squawking. Unless we seriously cut spending we will suffer the fate of Greece. Republicans voted for it because they want spending reductions. Obama proposed it as a scam and it bit him on the butt.

          • J. Jones

            Horse hockey? Regardless of who came up with the idea, it’s clear that House Republicans overwhelmingly supported it. After all, 174 House Republicans voted for the measure while only 95 House democrats voted for the measure. Say… maybe it’s example of Boehner’s strong leadership, eh?
            What’s that your saying? Nah, according to Republicans and Conservatives, the sequester is not a problem at all.

          • Brian Barkley

            The cuts were badly done on purpose by Obama, his bureaucracy and Democrat legislators. When we take the Senate perhaps the President will go down in history as the most fiscally responsible President this century entirely against his will.

          • J. Jones

            Badly done? How so? And since 174 Republicans voted for it in the House then what makes their votes any better than the votes of the mere 95 House democrats that voted for the sequester?
            That’s some dream you’ve got. Conservatives are complaining they can’t even bend the Republican leadership to their purposes and you’re expecting they can control the President? Amazing, but I guess you might as well dream “big,” eh?

          • Brian Barkley

            How are the White House tours coming?
            Don’t forget Clinton ended up a fiscally responsible President in spite of several vetos.

          • J. Jones

            White House tours? What about them? If White House tours were important to the Republicans then surely most of the 72% of House Republicans that voted for the sequester would have voted against it, instead.
            Republicans are foolish if they think Obama is as politically astute as Clinton. I’m also reminded that Republicans had a number of problems during the Clinton years including getting blamed for shutting down the government. Looks like they’re volunteering for that role, again.

          • Brian Barkley

            The government is going to shut down again. Obama will never even consider budget cuts and that’s all the house is going to give him. If he is upset about the sequester he’s going to flip out over the debt ceiling and the continuing resolutions. We aren’t even talking about regular budget negotiations. The press is unable to paper over the problems and even Democrats are jumping ship.

          • J. Jones

            You seem optimistic. Republicans have already “bought” the shutdown, though, so they might as well.

          • Brian Barkley

            Just like the last time only the press thinks that.
            They have even less credibility now.

          • J. Jones

            You need to re-evaluate your appraisal. Republicans definitely lost when Newt shut down the government as many people, including a mess of Republicans, found that their livelihood either directly or indirectly depended on the federal government being open for business.
            The current Republican leadership certainly doesn’t want a shutdown since they did learn something when Newt shut it down, but the tea rabble in the House is busy buying a shutdown, nonetheless. Real Republicans could at least blame the shutdown on their rabble-run-wild.

          • Brian Barkley

            We kept the House and took the Senate.
            We kicked Clinton’s butt and now he and his party act like it was all his idea.
            The Tea Party will kill the Democrat party and I’ll celebrate when you and your liberal ilk can’t even get elected to dog catcher.
            You guys are putting more than a million of your voters into the dumpsters behind Planned Parenthood every year and unless you guys get a whole lot of new suckers your party is toast.

          • J. Jones

            You did what? Dream on. You couldn’t even remove the man from office. Maybe you’ll get some help from the Hispanic vote with Rubio’s plan, but it won’t be enough. But I guess a little bravado couldn’t hurt much, at least you can temporarily feel almost good until you go out the door and enter the real world each morning.
            I see… so abortion is your plan for reducing democrat numbers? Strange.

          • Brian Barkley

            What plan? you guys are fighting your hardest to increase that number. Your party is toast by your own hand and you are cheering all the way. Our plan is to take away the credit card. When you guys can’t buy votes anymore abortion will be the least of your vote losing problems.

          • J. Jones

            I’ve heard it from too many conservatives for it not to be a plan or at least “wishful thinking.” It certainly seems a pro-abortion stance that you take.

          • Brian Barkley

            It’s hard not to notice when your opponents are killing themselves off in the millions. Your party better pray for the personhood amendment or you are simply going to kill yourselves off into oblivion.

          • J. Jones

            Personhood begins at delivery. But be that as it may, it’s foolish for you to believe that only democrats have abortions, though I guess the “Republican shuffle” in public restrooms might reduce Republican need by a bit.

          • Brian Barkley

            Look where all the big facilities are built. It ain’t Republicans by the dumpster load that are disappearing.
            Even the Supreme Court doesn’t vest personhood at birth.
            In fact many states even have a line for a name for the unborn child on their aid form and much of that aid is contingent upon the basis of a second, distinct person existing.

          • J. Jones

            There aren’t dumpster loads any sort of humans in my part of the world.
            Birth is the earliest that the legal definition of personhood could possibly begin. As private insurance companies used to point out (at least when my kids were born,) personhood often didn’t really begin until the newly born had survived the birth process for some days or weeks.
            My view is that the state providing more aid for a pregnant women isn’t a recognition that the fetus is a person, it’s just a recognition that fetus could very well end of being a person because, you know, a lot of mothers of all political stripes carry their pregnancies to full term.

          • Brian Barkley

            Ah, being human is merely a legal term.
            No wonder we don’t see eye to eye.
            They are humans in the fetal stage of development.

          • J. Jones

            Now you’re just silly. Despite your attempt at conservative lawyering, there are not dumpster load of any sort of humans in my part of the world. Am I to understand that you’ve got dumpsters full of aborted fetuses in your neighborhood? How sad.

          • Brian Barkley

            Oh, pardon me. many are just washed down the drain.
            Those are people. That you can’t see that is sad.

          • J. Jones

            So let me get this straight – where you live persons are killed and are either sliced up in small enough pieces to flush down the drain or are just put in a dumpster? And this happens by the “dumpster load?” That doesn’t happen where I live. Imagine that.

          • Brian Barkley

            Not anymore. Enjoy your well funded empty hall.

          • Layla

            Real Republican is one who won’t sell out his country or the Constitution. Last time I looked, there remain only a handful in Congress. Ryan and Rubio no longer fit into that category; Juan McCain hasn’t for some time. GOP are in for a surprise on election day. No, I do NOT donate money anymore to the Republican Party.

          • paoliana

            Juan McCain never did…I am also questioning the accuracy of his “War Hero” tales as well…lot of loose ends there….

          • Raiderwolf

            Define “Real Republicans”. I think you mean the Democrat Pandering Republicans, because that is what Ryan is, a Democrat door mat. Real Republican = Democrat Door Mat

          • http://americandictators.blogspot.com/ WarriorClass III

            If the illegal aliens like Ryan, they’ll LOVE Ted Cruz, who wants to DOUBLE immigration from the current invasion levels.

            And the RNC has joined Eric Holder in puting some states back under Federal oversight for holding elections and passing voting requirements so the illegals can vote!

            http://americandictators.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-republican-elites-back-eric-holders_27.html

          • lib_erator

            Amen Daniel.

          • Tom Gilbert

            Politicians, bureaucrats and government are the culprits that got our country into this mess. No border enforcement, deals with countries to allow subversives in, not checking and deporting visa holders, not going after illegals for years, and elected officials and bureaucrats getting special ‘perks’ from other countries and interest groups, all at the expense of American citizens and our sovereignty. All these things make it easier for terrorists to attack us, illegals to steal from us and attack us and give the government excuse to ignore constitutional guarantees in the name of protecting us………because they didn’t protect us to begin with.

            Government created these problems by refusing to do its’ primary job as stated in the constitution…..Protect our nation from invasion.

            Can anybody now (after the recent NDAA vote and now this statement by Ryan) name one elected official who stands up to their oath to protect and serve the Constitution? Anyone????

          • gotroy22

            They all care about their career more than the Constitution.

          • paoliana

            $$$$$$$$$$$-that is all they care about….hope they all have a deserted island to escape to after they accomplished the complete destruction of once great country…..

          • Mike

            Ted Cruz

          • gotroy22

            The are Status Quo Republican Losers and enemies of America, like Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld.

          • BillSmith9

            gutfeild is a gay lib, perino would look good sitting on my lap,but hi iq she is not

          • paoliana

            And yet all those Bush re-threads are all over FOX news…that is why I haven’t turned on FOX for years now- same hidden propaganda with a little different twist as the rest of the slimy media

          • BillSmith9

            fox for truth
            any other Obama fed lies you can get from any channel, fox is a thorn in Obama’s side because they wont spew his lies

          • Harry J. Smith

            I don’t believe in the integrity of O’Reilly, Courlter, Beck, Limbaugh and all the other idiots that want to trash all those who have different opinions. What kind of a group of uncaring, blind to reality idiots to you want to feed you pure bull effluent?

          • JoeBotz

            it is Gutfeld he is married with children and a Republican just a bit off.

          • JoeBotz

            Oh and he is Catholic he brought this up on the show.

          • BillSmith9

            I may have the wrong man?

          • Layla

            What do you expect. Dana worked for the administration that designed the Patriot Act. She’ll sell out anybody for a buck.

          • BillSmith9

            they all will sell out , no matter the tag , $ rules in there eyes, has nothing to do with morals or running the nation

          • BillSmith9

            I don’t think bush intended for the Patriot Act to be used against us, you can pin that on the organizer

          • cb2000a

            I think there is more to this than you know.

          • Ron Cole

            Amen Daniel. I see the finger writing on the wall and tremble.

          • http://americandictators.blogspot.com/ WarriorClass III

            They are ENEMIES of AMERICA!

            If the illegal aliens like Ryan, they’ll LOVE Ted Cruz, who wants to DOUBLE immigration from the current invasion levels.

            And the RNC has joined Eric Holder in puting some states back under Federal oversight for holding elections and passing voting requirements so they can vote!

            http://americandictators.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-republican-elites-back-eric-holders_27.html

          • http://americandictators.blogspot.com/ WarriorClass III

            If the illegal aliens like Ryan, they’ll LOVE Ted Cruz, who wants to DOUBLE immigration from the current invasion levels.

            And the RNC has joined Eric Holder in puting some states back under Federal oversight for holding elections and passing voting requirements so they can vote!

            http://americandictators.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-republican-elites-back-eric-holders_27.html

          • Katepatate

            There are no ‘real’ Republicans anymore. The incestuous relationships have come to fruition in the DemRepubadumb party.

          • XJFKdemocrat

            I believe that there are few constitutional conservatives whom Reagan would endorse but the political ruling party that manages the swamp is trying to eat them alive. That would be Paul, Cruz, Lee and others who want to reign in a government that views law-abiding, legal citizens as the enemy. I will support only individual candidates who uphold their oaths of office.

          • drdebdrdeb

            I read your comment twice and I am confused. Are you saying that Paul, Cruz and Lee support law-abiding citizens? If so, I agree with your comment.

          • XJFKdemocrat

            Yes, that’s what I’m saying. They are the good guys.

          • I BarKahn

            While you’re at it, try your level best to support Republican candidates who are eligible to be President. I think Reagan would like that.

          • Sueychop

            What difference does it make if they call themselves repubs but they’re the same end result as Demoblicans?

          • gotroy22

            None, that’s why I am leaving the Republican Party if Boehner allows 30 million Undocumented Democrats in.

          • Leo

            Where are you going ?

          • Brian Astby

            Why go anywhere. If staying home will have the same effect as voting Republican, why waste my time going to vote?

          • Layla

            Independent. Certainly not to the other party.

          • Layla

            You will not be alone. The only GOP remaining will be those in Congress. The rest of us have had enough.

          • Kevin Pearson

            Allows? I thought they were already in

          • Brooke Sullivan

            I switch registration on presidential campaigns. Whatever the incumbent is, I register opposite so I can vote in that primary. But then after that… no way. Libertarian down the board. In fact, my rep (republican) just voted against the amash amendment. He just blew it. I doubt he’ll get reelected now. Not if I have a say in it. LOL

          • Brian Astby

            That’s right. The last time Republicans got what they wanted, we ended up with a new bankruptcy laws that basically enhanced bankruptcy for their friends in business, while severely limiting bankruptcy for everyone else.

          • sendthempacking

            You’d better check on who removed the regulations on anks that caused the latest crisis. Clinton was his name just in case you are having a memory loss.

          • Brooke Sullivan

            Do you ever feel like you’re in the scene from the matrix where he has a choice of a blue pill or a red pill? I don’t drink koolaid. Not blue, not red. I’m amazed at how many so called republicans will vote for another so called republican after that candidate has just proudly announced he’s a progressive. “lesser evil” is still evil.
            I don’t grant my consent. I do not cosign idiots OR purposeful sabotage. :)

          • RonaldusMagnus

            Oh he is, putz.

          • gotroy22

            Yet nobody minded that Obama might not be eligible to be president. How dare anyone question Obama’s citizenship, you kooks and racists…. but questioning a Hispanic American’s citizenship is good.

          • I BarKahn

            I minded, said I minded, and support removing Obama for being ineligible and for not having legal prof of U.S. citizenship. The rest of you are wuzzes.

          • Layla

            And while you’re at it, try not to support so many socio/facist/communist MoCs. The grand old Dem party, you ain’t.

          • pepe

            Cruz wants a huge increase in legal immigration because he, like Rubio, feels U.S. citizens “can’t cut it.”

            Paul only a few months ago was talking Spanish and will vote for the Nightmare (Dream) Act and will go along with any conference amnesty. Get ready.

          • Sueychop

            I don’t think you’re accurate about Cruz.

          • Carolyn Cooke

            Yes, she is. Cruz says he wants more STEM and H2B visas while there is no shortage of either and college grads in those fields cannot find work. You have Bill Gates laying off 5,000 employees (my friend was one) yet walking the halls of Congress buying votes for more high-tech immigrants. Greed knows no bounds.

          • libsrsohateable

            Where is your citation for Cruz saying he demands more high-tech immigrants? Just curious. If he IS for allowing employers to squeeze out American college grads for immigrants, he can go take a flying leap too.

          • Brian Astby

            It’s not that they aren’t educating them enough. It’s that the Chinese and Indians will work for peanuts.

          • libsrsohateable

            It’ll still be above minimum wage, I can guarantee you that.

          • Brian Astby

            If the retards in IT would form a union, they wouldn’t be losing their jobs to the fine people from China, and India.

          • libsrsohateable

            I don’t know where you get your information, but Cruz is totally against the Amnesty Bill your idiotic Congress is so anxious to pass. In fact, he started a campaign against the “Gang of 8 Charlatans” bill. Maybe the Daily Show isn’t such a good source of information after all, huh?

          • Guesser

            Are you joking? Cruz wrote the amnesty bill! Maybe you should turn off Fox news.

          • kgregt

            I believe you are thinking of Rubio.

          • libsrsohateable

            Guesser’s problem is she DOESN’T think at all!

          • kgregt

            Yes, apparently Rubio and Ryan don’t think either.

          • libsrsohateable

            Those two fools are allowing ‘Rats and their own stupid advisers to trick them into believing that if they screech and howl to let lawbreaking cockroaches stay here, and bring their cousins, 4th removed over to this country, that they will get more Mexican votes. That’s b.s. but they’re too dumb to realize it. They may also be listening to stupid Big Business leaders, who can’t see past the nose on their dumb faces. Those dummies don’t realize that the U.S. is their largest consumer market, and if no one is working, or wages stay depressed for decades, thanks to the Brown Invasion, who the eff will buy their schit???

            The Chinese economy is weakening now, so Big Business can’t bank on selling their crap there either. None of the fools involved in wanting MORE dependent-class labor is looking at the big picture: Ostalin can’t be pres-uh-muh-dint forever, so eventually the chains he put around our necks will be gone. But until THEN, we need less dependent-class, ‘Rat-voters-to-be, and who are massive breeders to boot, in this bloody country. The “right thing to do” is to corral their law-breaking hind ends BACK to their own countries, not invite even MORE of them in. I don’t see them as humans so much as parasites trying to steal my job and national treasury.

          • Brian Astby

            Guesser is just a troll.

          • Agricolas

            You’re a goddam liar.

          • gotroy22

            Maybe you should turn off PMSNBC you lying lib.

          • pearsone

            STUPID

          • Brian Astby

            Guesser, Isn’t there a teenaged boy out there somewhere you should be out molesting? Isn’t that what you liberals like to do?

          • BillSmith9

            if you want the truth , watch fox
            if you want Obama fed lies , watch all the others

          • Layla

            Schumers staff wrote the bill. Nice try.

          • Raiderwolf

            I think you are confused with Rubio.

          • pepe

            Cruz wants more LEGAL immigration. That’s undisputed. You’re right, he’s opposed to the Senate amnesty bill.
            Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) is the strongest against all traitor bills.

          • libsrsohateable

            Correct, but we don’t need more of THAT either. I refuse to acknowledge that there’s a big tech vacuum. We have a ton of college graduates, present company included, who can’t find jobs in their fields due to the shiddy Ostalin economy. What Cruz wants is cheap tech labor, but let’s look at the current economic situation here: we have an extremely high unemployment rate, which sets labor rates lower than usual. College graduates are trying to pay back student loans while being underemployed, which is impossible, so in steps Ostalin to “save” us. There’s a program in place that either keeps the college graduate on the hook for decades, or excuses the debt altogether, which adds to our already massive debt.

            We need LESS immigration PERIOD! This will lead to more employment of AMERICAN citizens, not Indian, Chinese, or Mexican citizens. If our people can’t work due to some foreigner taking their job, then we are DEAD as a country! Cruz is WORSE, in my opinion, because he wants to replace American college graduate labor with cheap foreign labor. That’s b.s!

          • Brooke Sullivan

            The truth comes out on another thread! hahaha

            Unemployed? That would explain your attitude. Nothing will make a man feel more impotent than not being able to find a job after spending so much time and money in college (probably tech school).

            Tell ya what, change your attitude and see if that helps. Tech qualified counts for nothing when your personality is so repulsive. ;-)

            See, those immigrants that you hate so much “KNOW THEIR PLACE” just like you want and have respect for their employer and their situation in a new country. They don’t feel ENTITLED to a job.
            You’re a man (I’m assuming), you should have the concept of respect hardwired into your brain, yet you just don’t get it.

          • libsrsohateable

            LOL!!! Again, fatty-pig-fatty, you don’t have a clue what the eff you’re talking about. You got all this time to harass me, but no time to take care of hubby’s sexual needs. You said he works 6 days a week (no doubt to stay as far away from his fatty-pig-fatty wife as possible), but I am guessing at least 2 of those days are spent with a female co-worker who’s at least bangable.

            I have a job, unlike yourself who sits at home getting fatter and even MORE bitter while hubby works himself into an early grave just to stay away from you. As a matter of fact I work for a company that largely hires immigrants from May-hee-co, and I can tell you that they are lazy vermin just like you, fatty-pig-fatty.

          • Brooke Sullivan

            haha
            No, I’m a rare breed. He’s never turned down. Yet ANOTHER fail from you! So, you sit around and steal from your boss? While you’re “working” you’re online making weak attempts at insulting people? I wonder how much your boss spends so that you can get your rocks off bashing women. Most of your posts are all about how much you hate all women. So strange.
            So far, not ONE thing you’ve said is true. I’ll let you know when you hit something on the mark though. I’m always game for a miracle.

          • libsrsohateable

            No my posts are about how pathetic and needy broads like YOU are. I don’t really “hate” you per se, I just don’t like you at all. Of course you don’t turn hubby down either. It’s because you have low self-esteem from being a fat pig. You harassing me leads me to believe you want me to have relations with you, since he probably loses supper over the thought of being with you, as it were. Sorry, but I don’t do fat chicks with big mouths like you. I reply to you on my own time, dummy, so again you are incorrect about what I do or who I am. Maybe you want me AND are jealous that I provide value to society and don’t take from it like you do. Or that I’m not killing a spouse because I’m too lazy to work, like you. I had you pegged from day one too, ball-breaking hag. We both know it.

          • libsrsohateable

            I just emailed Cruz about this garbage. His own site says he wants a 500% (!) increase in visas for the high-tech and medical fields. Un-be-effing-lievable!!! All of the American college grads that can’t find jobs in their fields, and he wants them to compete with FOREIGN labor AND Obama??? There are no words for people like him…

          • Brooke Sullivan

            you JUST looked it up…after throwing out a slur to someone and not apologizing for it.

            wow. what a bitter pill you are!

            There’s an old saying, “you can be right, but wrong at the top of your voice”.

          • libsrsohateable

            There’s another old saying that goes, “shut your hole, c-word, and fetch me a sammich and my slippers.” Your problem is you don’t hear that at all. I would follow those words up with a backhand, for emphasis. Nothing worse than a mouthy hose-bag with a cuckold hubby….NOTHING!

          • Layla

            Cruz does NOT support this immigration plan. He supports the Constitution and the rule of law.

          • protectourkidsnow

            Cruz is not a Natural Born Citizen, he cannot be elected President. Of course, if the media applied the same level of scrutiny to him as they do Obama, he would be considered a Modern Day Founding Father. But, since he’s a tea bagging partier, that will NEVER happen. Move on there is nothing electable there

          • gotroy22

            Sure he can, Libtard. Your Kenyan born preident proved that.

          • protectourkidsnow

            I’m as far from a Libtard as one can get. Cruz will never be allowed to progress beyond local dogcatcher because the Libtards will spin his ineligibility into a frenzy long before he’s even viable and he’ll never get past stage one. While they never took any challenge of Obama seriously, Cruz will be crucified about his situation. It’s a complete non starter, he will not make it anywhere at all before he’s shut down, focus your efforts on someone that will actually be able to make it happen, Cruz is NOT it.

          • BillSmith9

            if the Kenyan fly trap is qualified so is my paperboy

          • babumjane

            Yea and then you got Christie a Dem in sheep’s clothing and yet he seems to be getting support, why? after he kissed up to the bummer and screwed Romney big time. Where are my Tea Party people, come on people lets get some rallies going in DC

          • Layla

            Christie is going nowhere in the GOP, nor are Rubio and Ryan.

          • BillSmith9

            Chrissy will turn coat as soon as Hillary makes the phone call

          • Layla

            Donate only to these people and new candidates. Otherwise, you are funding RINOs.

          • rimpy

            actually it is the Usurpation of the
            Euro-Marxist-Globalist EVIL TOXIC MURDERPIGS

          • ConservativeRedneck

            The big tent theory.

          • buzzyjames

            Wrong democratic party leftist divider, there are progressives in both parties and those are the Hamiltonians that want to control everyone through the power of the banking elite. They have already been exposed in the senate with their amnesty votes. Ryan who is a PROGRESSIVE panderer has now been exposed for good. Conservatives expose progressives… that is our job. For those reading who do not know what a progressive is- Communists, Hamiltonians, Plutocrats, Oligarchical rule, IRS tyranny and the welfare state propagated by more and more government workers who produce ZERO.

          • Mark III

            1913 Fed Reserve
            1913 Fed Income Tax
            Hmmmm

          • http://www.facebook.com/lou.bethel.1 Lou Bethel

            It was the TROJAN HORSE Bush family that destroyed the Republican Party from within. They sold America out to their Saudi masters……
            That was the REASON for the Gulf War….
            and the REASON gas is 3.47 a gallon, now…..

          • Sueychop

            That’s right.

          • protectourkidsnow

            And Obama has helped us how?!?!?!

          • Layla

            This is the first president who has been unable to bring down gas prices. Stupidly, he does not realize it is all about the economy. America knows who he is.

          • Mark III

            President Clinton accused Hussein of WMDs in the 1998 Iraq Liberation Act, and signed it into law.

            That’s important to remember as well.

          • Sueychop

            Exactly.

          • J. Jones

            Sure there are. They’re easy to recognize – they’re the ones controlling the Republican Party.

          • maisy

            Correction- CONSERVATIVES see the writing on the wall.
            It’s graffiti and a third world welcome mat!

          • BillSmith9

            dems=communism
            libs=communism my way

          • BillSmith9

            so misinformed

          • rimpy

            can they READ it, is the question.

          • SWDC

            14 Republicans joined all 52 Democrats and 2 independents to support the immigration bill.

            Here is the list of the 14 GOP senators who voted for the immigration bill:

            Marco Rubio (Fla.)
            Lamar Alexander (Tenn.)
            Lisa Murkowski (Alaska)
            Kelly Ayotte (N.H.)
            Jeffrey Chiesa (N.J.)
            Susan Collins (Maine)
            Bob Corker (Tenn.)
            Jeff Flake (Ariz.)
            Lindsey Graham (S.C.)
            Orrin Hatch (Utah)
            Dean Heller (Nev.)
            John Hoeven (N.D.)
            Mark Kirk (Ill.)
            John McCain (Ariz.)

            Vote.

          • wheezer7

            Gee, no surprises on that list. RINOs all.

          • Jeff

            The guy from NJ is a fill in appointed by Rino Fatso Christie. He does Fatty’s bidding.

          • BillSmith9

            who happens to be a closet lib

          • Layla

            Every Republican from the Northwest is a closet lib. Don’t you know that by now?

          • BillSmith9

            yep, watch him & hillary

          • Tom Gilbert

            and the other rep senators who would have voted for it got coverage from the numbers and were excused from voting for it. Will Rogers was sooo right!!!!

          • Sueychop

            Arizona and Tennessee, you suck.

          • Stan in Texas

            Hey I am from Tennessee and WE don’t suck but the idiots who “represent us” do. Time for a primary challenge.

          • BillSmith9

            I know how u feel, we have Sheila jackson lee,the new free slave, her iq has never reached room temperature & she thinks she’s brilliant

          • Lee Fowler

            Theres a list of jerk-weeds if I ever saw one. Can’t say I’m surprised by any one of them acting like the lapdogs they are.

          • lib_erator

            If your representative votes for Amnesty you know they are secret dems. Or real dems. Vote the liars out ASAP. 2014 hre we come. Make our day! We will see just how badly the republicans ruin their party agfter they vote for amnesty. Surely they on the dem side do not want amnesty. Put us all together and a lot of folks could see their careers end.

          • J. Jones

            My Rep is a tea bagger. He never votes for anything useful, he only votes for stuff that “sounds good.” Republicans aren’t damaging their party by shedding the tea people, they’re trying to save it.

          • Layla

            Entire House is up next year. We can take them all out, both sides.

          • BillSmith9

            I vote to abolish Washington peroid

          • Brian Barkley

            Real Democrats know that they are putting a million of their future voters into the dumpsters behind Planned Parenthood every year and if they don’t find a whole lot of new suckers they are toast.

          • Raiderwolf

            No, the stupid ones think they do while they believe the lies of the Democrats and leftist MSM. The truth is, the writing you are talking about is being misinterpreted by the Republicans. By the way, the “Real Republicans” equals “RINO Democrats”.

          • J. Jones

            Nah… “Real Republicans” refers to the bulk of the Republican party and they interpret the writing on the wall pretty accurately. If the Republicans want to continue being a major player then they have to actually do something.
            Tell you what – if you want to conduct regular sweeps of businesses looking for illegal aliens so that those business concerns can pay a hefty fine and the illegals are immediately deport, I can support you in that effort.

          • grey_ghost1

            So true, Karen! Why, pray tell, would the progs want to help the GOP?!? Just another case of B’rer Rabbit and the briar patch!

          • http://www.RightFightHQ.com/ WeCanWinThisFight

            I prefer the term “National Suicide”… It removes any and all confusion about the effects of amnesty.

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          • Feynman

            Ryan is many things, but stupid isn’t one of them. Certainly he knows that the majority of illegals vote democrat. If his goal is political longevity, then he is planning to defect to the democrat party somewhere down the line. This is true of Chris Christie without a doubt. However, if he’s acting on pressure from business because they desire cheap labor, he is getting something in exchange for this political suicide — probably cash in the shadows.

          • Dunnyveg

            Ryan couldn’t give two hoots about the country, but only his career. This is why he stipulated “fifteen years” for amnesty to occur. He will be long gone, and we will be left as a despised minority in the country our ancestors made the greatest in the world.

            Ryan claims to be motivated by his Catholicism. Ryan obviously does his real worship in front of a mirror.

          • XJFKdemocrat

            He’s certainly not representing us or our kids. Anything that goes to conference spells doom. They think that we are morons when it is they who will plummet to obscurity.

          • borntobePolitical

            That may be true but they do not vote in enough to swing elections. That’s the dirty little secret.

          • Gears

            The rotten P O S Ryan has already shown he’s worthless, just like Judas Rubio. Grahmesty and Juan McLoser.

          • GoneApe

            For sure, cash under the table.

          • argh32

            Ryan is stupid and corrupt. The illegal democrats will never vote for him. The conservatives have had a belly full full of his McCain-esque sellout behavior. He is done.

          • Lee Fowler

            I can’t believe that I am actually happy that he and Romney lost. At least I can continue despising liberals in general and specific rinos.

          • Sueychop

            That’s right. Cash. Welcome to the sold-out USA. Just wait till they invite the Russian army right in the front door.

          • Lee Fowler

            Normally, when I read / hear people bitching about big business, I ignore them as ranting libs. HOWEVER, upon lengthy consideration and research, I’ve found the point to be true that business is pushing for this. My stance is fine the hell out them to the point that they understand they should hold country first. Unfortunately, this worthless cesspool of an administration will gladly jump into an incestuous relationship with them. Boycott the businesses that help to destroy the country in this manner.

          • Tom Gilbert

            good observation, Feynman. there are no more principled politicians, if there ever were. follow the money.

          • krusatyr

            Who needs mexican peasants streaming in for amnesty (which it will be after anything comprehensive goes to blend with Senate’s debacle) to take away jobs from struggling Americans and to cost billions in entitlements?

            Dems and sell out GOP who trade sovereignty for campaign funding from big business that benefits from discount labor.

          • Shagnasty1

            Given who runs it and how they cowtow to Harry Reid and Obama the Republican Party died a long time ago.

          • IrateTexan

            Indeed! Every Mexican around knows that Juan McCain is, and always has been, VERY pro-amnesty. Yet, how many of their votes did he get? Only a fool falls for anything the politicians say. And I’ll tell you something else. The calls that politicians make, stating that it’s a poll? It’s not a poll, it’s collecting TALKING POINTS for that politician when he starts running his/her mouth while campaigning!

          • BobRooney3

            The federal government won’t protect U.S. workers, local communities and taxpayers from illegal immigration .
            Say NO to the Amnesty. Go to this website and register . Google this: NUMBERSUSA .
            Once you are registered (join us), go to the “action board” to send free faxes to your state representative.
            They are all typed up and ready to go,

          • http://americandictators.blogspot.com/ WarriorClass III

            Same with Ted Cruz, who wants to DOUBLE immigration from the current invasion levels.

            And the RNC has joined Eric Holder in puting some states back under Federal oversight for holding elections and passing voting requirements so they can vote!

            http://americandictators.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-republican-elites-back-eric-holders_27.html

          • dfwpike

            The end of the middle class has already happened under Obama’s watch. Amnesty will be the nail in the coffin.

          • Tom Gilbert

            How do you tell when a politician is lying????

          • Layla

            His lips are moving. That’s an easy one.

          • aleddie1

            They are not fools, but pretending to be; the real reason people like Rubio and Ryan are doing it, is to comply with the requirements of their campaign contributors who only want cheap labor, regardless the destiny of the country. As soon as they pass the amnesty, will be again in campaign posing like the conservatives they are not. The time to send all those frauds home is long overdue.

          • John (magnum)

            Because the RINO’s are COMPLETE idiots like the dems/socialist/communist party !!

          • Lore Earll

            BECAUSE THEY’RE FASCISTS only looking out for themselves.

          • shropster

            What is needed is the nullification of Ted Kennedy’s 1965 immigration bill.

          • John Kenny

            Shades of Charlie Brown, Lucy, and the football. “Really, Charlie Brown…THIS time I PROMISE I’ll hold it still”

          • fuobl

            The RINO fools are digging their own grave. Reps and Dems are virtually interchangeable.

          • gotroy22

            The Pew poll showed the illegals will vote 8-1 for Democrats.

          • Erasmus

            Before any member of the GOP thinks the rank and file voters will support amnesty, they need to look at how rapidly Bush-43′s support dried up among his base when he tried to ram amnesty through in ’07. They need to remember how angry conservatives were with McCain when he ran for POTUS because they remembered how he had led the charge for amnesty.

            Have they forgotten how rapidly Rubio’s political stock has plummeted since he became the Senate’s go-to guy for amnesty?

            When the GOP supports amnesty, it signs its own death warrant. It’s not for nothing conservatives call the republicans the stupid party.

          • paoliana

            Do you need any more proof on HOW UNBELIEVABLY STUPID repugnicans are?

          • Mark III

            The globalist Repubs are counting on a pay-off.

          • farm kid

            this will help the low information voter understand what you said. the Pittsburgh steelers would not give the Cleveland browns their play book before a game.

          • fedupwithmentalcases

            AND THE ILLEGAL WOULD NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS CAST A VOTE FOR A REPUB ANYWAY …THEY WANT THE HANDOUTS AND ONLY THE DEMCO CRATS WILL GIVE THAT TO THEM

          • http://americandictators.blogspot.com/ WarriorClass III

            If the illegal aliens like Ryan, they’ll LOVE Ted Cruz, who wants to DOUBLE immigration from the current invasion levels.

            And the RNC has joined Eric Holder in puting some states back under Federal oversight for holding elections and passing voting requirements so they can vote!

            http://americandictators.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-republican-elites-back-eric-holders_27.html

        • rimpy

          did you READ what CLG said?

          • crudcutter

            Yes I did. Ryan supports amnesty and NSA spying. He is an establishment putz, unless you’re a democrap.

          • rimpy

            Oh you called ryan that? OK miscommunication- I thought you called CLG that, when he had just slammed ryan.

        • LinuxLewis

          Asia for the Asians
          Africa for the Africans
          Mexico for the Mexicans
          WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!!!

          Massive 3rd world immigration & FORCED assimilation targeted at EVERY white country & ONLY white countries is GENOCIDE as defined by International Criminal Law

          Anti-Racist is a code word for Anti-White

      • http://www.facebook.com/imma.fubared Imma Fubared

        ditto

        • Clearhead

          Sheep.

      • Feynman

        How about that… So to all of you registered republicans who constantly give me, and my fellow Americans who haven’t lost the ability for rational thought, crap for refusing to vote for Romney or McCain: You’re right, the country would be headed in such a different direction if we’d just fall in step, hold our noses, and vote for the non-democrat. Not!!!
        Wake up! Without a Major shift in fundamental Philosophy, we are doomed to repeat history.

        • Joe O’Neal

          Amen! Won’t vote for Rubio or Ryan. Too bad more people don’t vote for the person instead of the party.

          • mardec

            So whose left? Christie?

          • Feynman

            No, that’s the wrong way to look at this. The paradigm that we must vote for the lesser of two evils; slower destruction, versus a quicker death; is false. A vote based on principle, can never be considered a wasted vote. Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to manipulate you; period.
            No; the real question is what the republican party will do. Will its ideals shift back towards limited government, personal freedom/accountability, and liberty? Or will it continue on its current path away from these principles? I suspect the latter; because it is corrupt.
            If so, to hell with them. We don’t need them.

          • Stanley J. Walljasper

            The out-of-breath morbidly obese poster boy for personal irreponsibility and the Republicratic and Demican party?

            NOT

            I want to invest in freedom-focused candidates who have at least a statistical chance of livng the next 10 years. Christie seems likable enough, he just won’t be around. Bad investment.

            On the hand, it would be almost wonderfully convenient to the interest of freedom-loving Americans for more oily “career” politicians to drop dead, “early and often” as they would say in Chicago.

        • Clearhead

          Sorry “Feynman” — Better “WAKE UP” yourself.! The “MAJOR SHIFT IN FUNDAMENTAL PHILOSOPHY” we’ve been “blessed” with over the last five years or so is the exact reason that we are now “doomed to repeat history”.

          • Feynman

            Ok, CH. Tell me, what would Romney’s position be on the IRS abuses that have come to light? How about quantitative easing? Or the Fed? Or illegal immigration? The destruction of the 4th amendment? etc…

            I certainly couldn’t predict where he would stand. That’s because he does NOT vote based on principle. He votes based on the political expediency of the moment.

            There would be no difference on the bearing this country is on, it would just be sailing to the end at a slower clip.

            By shift in philosophy, I do not mean towards collectivism, and assured destruction; as you suggest. I mean voting based on the Consitution, rather than opinion polls. This country, despite what you believe, is not a democracy. It is a Constitutional Republic. Please learn the difference, everyone, if you don’t know it, and THINK. For God’s sake, THINK, for yourselves, before it’s too late. Milton Friedman, Rand, Hayek, Grover Cleveland, Von Mises, Ron Paul, … Read! Think! Understand! Wake up before it’s too late! We still have time, but not much!!!

          • Stanley J. Walljasper

            Well-said. Thank you.

          • Layla

            Not ONE member of Congress is keeping his/her Constitutional oath. Americans are watching now. We have become the enemy of the Patriot Act. It’s pretty clear who must go if we want to save this country and the Constitution.

        • Bretfox

          You may be right but by not voting look what you gave us and I will still take Romney/Ryan any day over this tyrant we have in the White House. Even though I will never support Ryan again he would have been much better than BO.

          • SilverState

            I’m not sure Feynman said he didn’t vote but my guess is he voted Libertarian or some other party. I understand and am now in agreement with his thesis. A conscience vote only. I’ve been voting for the lesser of two evils for so long that I don’t even remember the last Constitutional

            candidate. I see the logic of your point except that when one considers the probability of a McCain or a Romney actually turning in a limited government way. My analogy of what Feynman is saying is this: choose between driving off a cliff with the Dems in a wild eyed rush of adrenaline, or off the same cliff in a slow motion death scene that seems to take forever. Same result, just a different time frame.
            I’d rather have the adrenaline, because the likelyhood is gthat the damage will be less serious.

        • Katepatate

          I agree. I will never hold my nose and vote again. I will not be part of putting anyone but a true conservative both fiscally and socially in office. If Republicans lose all the elections. So be it. The Democrats will get all the blame from future generations for destroying this great country. Then perhaps our grandchildren or their children will rise and form a new country.

          • I BarKahn

            Why not support Conservatives and Independents who want Obama removed from office for not being eligible and for not having legal proof of U.S. citizenship? Your Party leaders attend to their own interests; why don’t you attend to yours?

        • http://www.facebook.com/fhuh.kew Fhuh Kew

          Ron Paul.

        • Tommy Lee Maddox

          And without a vote for Romney or McCain, Obama gained another vote. Swell.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Forsberg/100001387343371 Bob Forsberg

        Most Conservatives saw a 3rd party as a weakened Republican party in the last election. If anything other than upholding the current laws occurs at the vote, the Rep Party will be the 3rd party in 2016 and gone by 2018.

        • argh32

          No more boehner, ryan, and grahmnesty…..I can’t wait!

          • Layla

            And no more McConnell.

      • Deanna Steele

        agreed

      • Kree13

        Yes Ryan!! #loveIt

      • rimpy

        A Prayer:

        Dear Lord; please swiftly, yet painfully, dispose of all tyrannical types of people, for they grievously harm us and the USA.

        amen

        • Layla

          Dear Lord, please help us get a 100% turnout for the November 2014 elections. Let us all show up and vote.

          • rimpy

            AMEN, AMERICAN!!!

      • Sueychop

        Ryan’s dead to me. ALL of them are. Only Rand Paul and Ted Cruz left.

      • Giney Newport

        ANOTHER FLUFFER FOR THE ELITE

      • gotroy22

        and a SQRL= Status Quo Republican Loser

      • cb2000a

        The GOP is only slightly better than the Democratic party these days. The Rino’s are sell outs. Time to clean house.

      • Richard Belson

        clg do you ever say anything that hasn’t already been puked up by one of your moronic leaders. How about and original thought from time to time. Rush was right when he called all you idiots his ditto heads. Not even he respects your brain less driblings

    • Roy Carver

      I told my kids (8 and 10 yrs old) today that the government thinks they are our boss when in fact the people of the United States are THEIRS. One of the reasons why we left Englad was to get away from a tyrannical government and 300 years later, he we are again.

      • alien5

        Keep teaching that to every child you knowKeep teaching hat to every person you know

      • mtnwmn35984

        But where do we go??

        • chronovisor

          good question we are now under ONE party rule!

          • XJFKdemocrat

            We consider Mark Levin’s impending book “The Liberty Amendments: Restoring the American Republic” which will explain how we can reign in this political ruling class that refuses to uphold the oaths that they swore. The states can do it without the unaccountable leviathan’s permission.

          • Stanley J. Walljasper

            Thats it, well said. We need to win hearts and minds, one at a time. When we re-ignite the smallest quorem of thinking people of integrity, the tide will shift, then turn.

          • Layla

            It’s already turned, including most Dems out here. The media just don’t want you to know that.

          • chronovisor

            might be onto something, however how many states have the guts to do it? how much different are they then the rino pukes in the senate/house?

      • Aryan_Pride

        this is a call to war, 1776 commences again

        • dnhook

          1773

        • Neoconhater

          Talk is cheap, maybe if you’d go out right NOW and put your lame words into action then folks would take you seriously…..so go do it…coward!

          • argh32

            NSA will find you.

        • Layla

          We still have a Constitution. Use it and VOTE. Teaching your children anything else is totally unacceptable.

      • jim2

        Very good with your teaching otherwise its socialism with these aholes in office.

      • http://www.facebook.com/fhuh.kew Fhuh Kew

        Did you tell them the dumbascz flounering flounderers sold out to their English masterbankers for WW1 and 2 so the farce of July should be cancelled ?

    • JoeKirkup

      More Applause…

    • TomasoPaine

      Amateurs complain about the border. Pros talk about workplace verification. If you can control who works, all that 50 foot fences will produce are 51 foot ladders.

      • Van Grungy

        or, the invaders could be shot dead

      • UMTigerFan

        But at least they can regulate and tax the ladder builders!

        • TomasoPaine

          Go Tigers.

        • Clearhead

          WRONG !!! They’re made in China.

      • Bretfox

        And Patriots talk about both.

      • capoprimo

        Not if towers with 30 cal. machine guns are mounted on them! Semper Fi

      • kempoguy

        I would have no problem putting a sniper team every 1000 yards along the boarder…

      • rimpy

        you neglect the DRUG RUNNERS & Islamo-fascist invaders talking worker verification

    • rennyangel2

      No legalization and amnesty.

    • http://www.facebook.com/imma.fubared Imma Fubared

      He just got re-elected barely in his district. He has to become Rhino like to survive. Any aspirations of the presidentcy is just a fallacy. We could remind him, YOU LOST in 2012.

    • Kevin Pearson

      How is passing an immigration a failure of upholding the Constitution?

      I do not favor any pathway to citizenship but the Constitution gives the Congress the right to pass laws and if it passes laws regarding immigration, how is that not upholding the Constitution?

      When the Constitution was written, there was no such thing as “immigration” as we know it and there were no such things as passports and visas. By your logic, denying ANYONE entry to the United States that isn’t a known spy is unConstitutional.

      Typical liberal. You define “Unconstitutional” as something you don’t like.

      • Don England

        You assume a lot more than I wrote. I said They are supposed to be servants to the people who elected them and to our Country, which includes upholding our constitution. This was a simple description of their duties as to being called a “rising Star”. You are debating yourself I guess.

        Your name label of typical liberal is wrong also. I don’t care about party labels, I care about Country and my children/grand children’s future.

        I could have broken the statement down into paragraphs so as not to be miss-understood. Those that start calling people names or labeling them are usually the liberal without a constructive argument or dialog.

        We don’t really have a two party system. We have two party labels that work for and do the bidding of one big money. It is all about power and $$$$$. If We The People don’t change it, we are doomed!

        • Kevin Pearson

          Liberalism is a mental defect. Conservatives deal with facts in the arena of ideas and rational thought while liberals rely purely on emotions with no correlation to the real world.

          I DO NOT CARE HOW YOU VOTE. If you cannot follow a rational argument you arrived at your ballot choice purely randomly and are a liberal. You are not reliable and cannot be trusted.

          “We don’t really have a two party system. ”

          You destroyed any credibility you might have had with that ridiculous and obnoxious comment. It is obvious that you live in a drug induced stupor because you cannot see the real world. There ARE two parties. There is the Government Party and there is the protest party.

          Tell me, which party do the people that work for he DMV vote for? Which party do the teacher’s unions work for? Which party do your local country commissioner belong to? Which party has people acts as a labor union for politicians. Which party is the home for people that have never had any other employment in their lives other than being on the government payroll or holding elected office.?

          It became PRETTY DAMNED CLEAR TO ME during the 2000 Florida Recount that there is really ONE party for the government and another party for protest as every major player in that debacle seemed to all be of the same party. Carrol Roberts, Teresa Lapore of the Election Canvassing (a person has to REALLY be in love with government and have nothing better to do with their lives to serve on an “election canvasing board”) to Judge Terry Lewis and Judge Nikki Clark and EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT were all of the same party.
          Guess which party that was?
          All the government employees and politicians are of one party and they see the other party as non-union SCABS threatening to take away their birthright union political offices.

          Anyone that thinks that the two parties are the same need to be locked away in a rubber room because they are a threat to themselves and others.

          • Don England

            Wow, personal attacks and rants.Classical Liberal tools. I see I am not alone, your responses follow a pattern. One thing for sure, you don’t know me and I don’t care to know you. Argue with yourself in the mirror. Have a good evening.

      • Dunnyveg

        Actually, immigration was known about at the time of the Constitution. In fact, one of the first bills passed by Congress was an immigration act in 1789.

        This country is a republic, coming from two Latin words “res” and publica”, meaning thing of the people. In other words, this country belongs to its citizens–not to the world, not to the traitorous politicians, and certainly not to post-American liberals. As such, we have the same right to keep unwanted people out of our country as we do our house, and for good reasons, bad reasons, or no reasons at all.

        • Stanley J. Walljasper

          Yes. Well-said.

    • FFlintstone

      The only question now is “What are we going to call the 3rd Party”? Sarah Palin suggested “Freedom Party”. That’s pretty good. Whatever we call it, conservatives cannot continue to give their votes to the Republican Party. We gave them a shellacking in 2010 and this is how they repay us? Bye.

    • GoneApe

      Ryan, Boehner, McCain and the rest of the fools that are selling out their base for nothing but cash from corporations will pay with their jobs for this stupidity.

    • Ron Brueske

      “and a rising star within the Republican Party” Ryan and the majority of republicans are nothing more than wet farts. These dirty smelly clowns have just about destroyed this nation. Nothing but a bunch of gutless wonders.

    • Steve Tanton

      my thoughts exactly. Therefore I will not post anything other than this. Bravo my good man!

    • ConservativeRedneck

      Us on the right have very little to choose from in Conservative leadership material now days.

    • Sun Desy

      pathetic linguine spine

    • Blinknone

      Lets see..

      Patriot Act
      TARP
      GM Bailout
      Stimulus
      Debt Ceiling
      NDAA
      and against curbs on NSA’s spying on Americans who’ve done nothing wrong.

      He sure is a real small government, low taxes, genuine conservative kind of guy.

      Or perhaps a fraud.

      You decide.

    • Guesser

      But you don’t need border security if you have amnesty, everyone will be welcome. That’s what America is all about…Land of the free.

    • sendthempacking

      He will go the way of Rubio, another loser politician. Maybe it’s a good thing this guy never became VP. I didn’t think so at the time but his true colors are coming out

    • SonofLiberty7

      Exactly. It is not our “immigration system” that is broken.
      It is our Law Enforcement System, beginning at the top of the Executive Branch, and including those members of Congress not willing to use their Constitutional powers (e.g., power of the purse ) to act as a check and balance on the other two branches.
      We do not have a immigration problem (that would be if we had too few immigrants to fill a few jobs ).
      We have a border enforcement problem.
      Build the double fence, now!
      Good God, we put men on the moon!.

      Don’t tell me it’s impossible!

    • paoliana

      Is there ONE just ONE true patriot left in this stinking despicable abhorrent pack of slimy cowards that is still calling themselves Republican Party? It isn’t the democrats who will cause a complete collapse of our country- it is treasonous repugnant republicans!

      We should replace each and everyone of them and exterminate the architect of failure who is getting filthy rich by raking hundreds of millions of dollars advising those morons -this slime of slimes,who was trying to destroy Ronald Reagan — Karl Rove

    • BangZoom!

      We need to put a a genuine and strong conservative primary opponent up against Ryan as soon as possible and start donating to him/her heavily.

    • we don’t need rinos

      rino ryan and the rest of the republican congress rinos lose my support .. no more money nor votes for any rino … how many trillions $$$$ will rino boehner then promise the conservative base ???? zero for conservatives and trillions $$$$ for illegals

    • notanobamaliar

      Paul Ryan quit lying to the American citizens. The US border will never be secured and the illegal invaders will never be deported. You know it and we know it. You are not fooling anybody. We are all tired of the political games that you and the other RINOs play at our expense. Kiss your 2014 re-election goodbye or should we say adios so you will understand us better.

  • docdave88

    Toldya they’d cave.

    Get ready for 50 million more democrat service vampires.

    tu habla?

    molon labe

    • danny roturra

      they surrendered before the war….

  • snapperman

    Ryan’s star is setting.

    • OBAMA_FAILED_E_VERIFY

      We Must Put Barack Obama On A Path To Citizenship!
      ObamaFailedEverify.com

      • localsavage

        He and the Rinos need to wake up and realize that these illegals will never repay the favor with their votes for a Republican.

        • crudcutter

          Hell, they’ll never repay the cost of medical care in ER’s, food on EBT’s and God knows what else they are scamming

    • mrrealworld

      He can join Rubio as the new star-setters in the GOP.

    • UMTigerFan

      Ryan has become a black hole! He was a drain on Romney, he is a drain on the party faithful as well!

  • Kevin Clark

    Screw Paul Rhino. The Republican Party is dead to me

  • Tj707

    Paul Ryan was the reason I did not vote for Mitt Romney. I don’t trust rising stars. No such thing. Can’t stand the man, just seems too slick.

  • Ten__Bears

    They just don’t get it……do they

  • strongmind

    and if Paul could remind taxpayers what benefits do we get out of legalizing 11-30 million poor, uneducated third world people?!

  • Fleendar the magnificent

    Vote NO! We do NOT want amnesty OR a pathway to citizenship. PERIOD!

    • Roy Carver

      What we want is a frikkin secure border. LEGAL immigration works. Just enforce the laws!

    • Raj Arjan

      There is already a “pathway to citizenship”. It’s called LEGAL IMMIGRATION!!

      • UMTigerFan

        What laws! We don’t follow no stinkin’ laws. We’re Congress!

      • Bretfox

        Thank you.

    • News Reporter

      Call your Representatives and Senators. Melt their phone lines down. I use to work for politicians in both houses. Your phone calls really do change politicians minds. Call once a day. Make sure you do a little research on the subject and be courteous when calling. Make sure you reiterate that this IS amnesty and there is absolutely zero border enforcement. No way to this amnesty bill. Melt their phone lines. Staffers get freaked out and it will affect your representatives in Congress.

      • Carolyn Cooke

        We must stop them from bringing ANY bill to the floor by leadership. They know they have the Dems and enough RINOs to pass anything and it will go to conference. And then it is all over!

  • Jim

    Paul Ryan is showing how deep his personal defeat was in the election .. he is now going along to get along … thinks that’s the safe way to become a Washington insider and stick it out while he feeds off the people, like Boehner and all the rest of the RINOs and career fat cats in DC … we need to send Paul back to school….

    • Brian Cunningham

      One of the things Paul Ryan demonstrated in the 2012 election was what a poor campaigner he is. Name one thing Ryan can be remembered for, other than losing the VP debate to a dim-witted Joe Biden.

      • Prodius

        To be fair he didn’t really lose to Biden. He was just dumbfounded at Biden’s sheer idiocy. The whole country was and then the media just said Biden won.

  • Wilfred

    Amnesty is going to create one party rule, Democrat. The Republican RINOs are fools.

    • flowpants

      I always find it laughable when a Republican does not agree with exactly the tea party line they are not “real republicans”. What a joke. Do you expect your leaders to all think exactly alike, like robots? Do you not want some diversity of thought?

      • Bulldog

        Do the democrats have diversity of thought or do they just vote with party leadership?

        • flowpants

          Sadly it is pretty monolithic. But I think the Dems are more willing to change views in alignment with the mainstream. You may call this pandering for votes. I get that argument. Or you may call it being more representative of the will of the populace.

          • JasonL77

            The Democrats view far left ideology as being the mainstream. They view centrists as the far right. Your statement is clearly erroneous.

          • flowpants

            The recent election paints a very different picture.

          • J. Jones

            I’m a centrist democrat and conservatives call me a gd liberal.

          • Joe Hinkie

            I have always been told A “centrist” was one the could sit on a fence and crap and it would fall on both side of the fence!!!!!! :(

          • Prodius

            So you’re a Blue Dog… do you even know what that means?
            Many Liberals call themselves centrists because of one issue like the 2nd Amendment yet swing hard Left regarding anything else.
            Gun control, abortion, and open borders are about as extreme as one can get no matter how you justify them to yourselves.

          • J. Jones

            Sure I know…. do you?

          • alien5

            You mean the will of the moochers and illegals , dude are you for real?

          • JoeKirkup

            The “populace” don’t pay the taxes. A select, hard working class of mostly white people pay the taxes. If the “populace” wants all this stuff let them pay for it. If they want citizenship let the apply legally. Anyone else needs to get out and stay out.

            In any case, we are not saying they aren’t “real repubs,” they are not conservatives which is a horse of an entirely different wheel base. Any pathetic RINO dirtbag like John Boehner or the loser in question is a real repub.

          • Feynman

            Democrats, unlike republicans, usually vote on principle. Unfortunately, those principles are to punish the best among us, and control all aspects of our lives.

          • Clearhead

            @ “flowpants: You write, “….I think the Dems are more willing to change views in alignment with the mainstream…..” If you had finished your statement, it might have had some validity. It should have been: “…..I THINK THE DEMS ARE MORE WILLING TO CHANGE VIEWS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA…..” And that would simply be called “more representative of the will of the dimocraps” Better try to stem your flow there, fellow, or you may end up in hot water up to your waist..

        • Clearhead

          They usually vote just to find out what they voted for.

      • jamesben

        That’s idiotic. What happened to Bob Casey – PRO-LIFE DEMOCRAT Gov. of Pennsylvania when he wanted to address the DEMOCRAT convention?

        Ya, they said NO! No diversity of thought ALLOWED in the Demon-rat Party.

        • flowpants

          The conversation really gets dumbed down when people type things like “Demon-rat Party”. It sounds ridiculous and you come off sounding like a 5th grader, at best.

          • War_Machine2

            Not on topic. Why is it when someone makes a good point you lefties switch to degrading and name calling.
            So let me repeat the great question James asked: “What happened to Bob Casey – PRO-LIFE DEMOCRAT Gov. of Pennsylvania when he wanted to address the DEMOCRAT convention?”
            If you have no answer just say so. Your last post just makes you seem stupid.

          • JoeKirkup

            Okay, lemmesee, someone with the moniker, “flowpants” is saying someone else sounds like a fifth grader.

          • chronovisor

            we have to communicate at the level cause most if not ALL libtards have the maturation level of prepubescent female 5th grader

          • flowpants

            Clever.

      • Steven Paul

        And your point is politicle suicide Laughable?

        • flowpants

          I assume you were trying to communicate a thought. Perhaps try again. *Political

          • JoeKirkup

            My God! You are just so utterly superior! I’m so impressed. You’re awesome. Feel better now?

          • GWNM

            Ooooh, look at the big brain on flowpants.

          • flowpants

            Yep, not bad for a “low information voter” heh? I’m a great dancer too.

      • UMTigerFan

        When was the last time the Democrat Party changed its position because the Republicans said it was necessary for them to win elections?

      • chronovisor

        i always find it laughable when a libtard starts posting about “robots” when ALL libtards say/repeat the same mantra…”it’s for the children” “women’s right” “yes we can” “racists” etc etc

      • capoprimo

        No, that would make them Democrats!

      • Joe Hinkie

        No, I don’t expect them to me robots but I do expect them to stand on PRINCIPLES!!!!!!!!!

      • grey_ghost1

        flow, they’re missing you over at Huffington & Puffington Post! And maybe you can move out of Mom’s basement…

        • flowpants

          I like it here. I feel my wisdom is more needed on this forum. And I got my own outside entrance to the basement, so I like to think of it as my own apartment.

    • OBAMA_FAILED_E_VERIFY

      Amnesty = RIP GOP youtube.com/watch?v=Wfy4xu1-wDE

    • dcnj

      and if it does…that “one party” will not last very long…

    • Carolyn Cooke

      The Republican RINOs are the ‘employees’ of special interests and have been paid handsomely for their services. They do not care about “parties” or re-election.

  • Soppy

    Thanks, Ryan, for killing this country you stupid azzzz!

  • jamesben

    SOMEBODY in Wisconsin: Oppose this TRAITOR with a primary challenge. How does ADDING 12 to 20 MILLION Democrats make sense for America?

    How does DRIVING DOWN WAGES and DRIVING UP UNEMPLOYMENT (CBO estimates) make sense for America?

    • Obama_Dogeater

      “But…but if we give them citizenship, they’ll LIKE us!” Ryan is a RINIO tool.

      • jamesben

        That seems to be the RINO delusion. I don’t understand it – mainly because I’m half Mexican, live on the border (1.6 miles from Mexico) I live with and have to (often) communicate with these people in Spanish and I KNOW HOW THEY VOTE, I know how the feel about citizenship (either don’t care, or don’t really want it) and I KNOW they don’t want to pay taxes.

  • Just Saying

    You can go to hell Ryan

  • AbidewithMe

    The GOP, aka “democrat lite”, will roll over and forget everything the GOP/Conservative base has told them about immigration (amnesty). There are no longer two parties in Amerika – just one, and neither of them give a damn what the American public is saying. What would we expect from lawyers? Throw them ALL out!

  • maddyswatch

    Washington D.C. Politicos: read my lips…No NEW laws on immigration. Enforce the ones already on the books, period.

  • David

    Shoot the beaners.

  • jasonBd

    Oh wow! Another promise to seal the border. If Eddie Munster here would do his job and enforce the damned laws we already have, maybe they could get around to restoring some fiscal sanity to this country.

  • Stan Lee

    Snot nosed punk….are there even republicans left in this country?

    • mrrealworld

      Republicans yes, conservatives in the Republican party? Very damn few. I’m done w/the GOP, stick a fork in me, Adios!

      • Stan Lee

        Same here I don’t even care if my third party vote keep liberals in there…this country is t i t s up no matter who wins.

    • zonable

      Yep. They’re busy, though, cleaning and oiling.

  • buffmuffin

    Primary every Republican who supports this.

    If they survive their primary, vote libertarian / 3rd party

    Dems will win, but may as well if they are going to vote like Democrats anyway.

    • mrrealworld

      Here’s your RINO’s and Dino’s in the Senate, after 33 years, the GOP finally left me.

      Alexander
      (R-TN)

      Ayotte
      (R-NH)

      Chiesa
      (R-NJ)

      Collins
      (R-ME)

      Corker
      (R-TN)

      Flake
      (R-AZ)

      Graham
      (R-SC)

      Hatch
      (R-UT)

      Heller
      (R-NV)

      Hoeven
      (R-ND)

      Kirk
      (R-IL)

      McCain
      (R-AZ)

      Murkowski
      (R-AK)

      Rubio
      (R-FL)

      Measure Number:

      S. 744 (Border Security,
      Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act )

      • UteDB

        I’m with ya. These corrupt clowns won’t get a red cent OR my vote.

      • eaglechick

        Thank you for mentioning Jeff Flake, McCain in training

      • Bretfox

        Can you provide a House list? Make sure Boehner, Ryan and Bachman are on it. They voted against defunding NSA this week..

  • xsnake

    Ryan…another pro amnesty turd.

  • tooter6

    NO to amnesty for illegal aliens and NO vote until AFTER mid-term elections!

  • Rufrignkidnme

    Well, with Christie, McCain, Ryan, Boehner, and all the other supposedly conservatives in the house and senate daily betraying the voters who put them in office, it seems we’re going to need a new party if we’re to have any hope of stopping the bleeding and regaining our constitutional government.

    I say this sadly as a 30 year republican. this isn’t my party any more. Like when the Regan left the democrats he said ” I didn’t leave the democratic party, the democratic party left me.”

  • HumbleTexican

    Why not add an amendment to remove all borders from the US and abolish Customs, TSA, ICE, and any other agency charged with enforcing our immigration laws? That is pretty much where we are headed anyway.

    • BennyZ

      That is the ultimate goal. Already NAFTA and GATT call for the unhindered movement of HUMAN ECONOMIC RESOURCES.

  • chrisdj614

    It better fail.

  • jdondet

    I find it increasingly harder to remain a Republican Party member. Once this is passed no more.

    • mrrealworld

      You won’t be leaving the GOP, the GOP left you! As they did me. I’m finished. I can barely discern the two parties anymore after voting some 33 years in this country. Adios!

  • Obama_Dogeater

    “Undocumented immigrants,” lol! Typical deceitful liberal reporter. The term is “illegal immigrant.” As in, they BROKE THE LAW to get here. Breaking the law is illegal, see? As for Ryan, he has turned into a RINO fool. He’ll be voted out.

    • Cathy

      We’re going to be like democrats that their party left them and became too liberal. Our party is becoming too liberal. Time for a new party. Tea anyone?

  • snapperman

    Some of the rationale is that 15, 20 million people will suddenly begin to pay social security/medicare taxes; even though they and their employers don’t pay all that much (given that unskilled/uneducated people are paid only minimum wage) sheer numbers of suddenly legal workers will offset the boomers’ retirement costs…… What happens to our children when THEY reach retirement and 20 million people who never saved a dime because they didn’t have a dime to save are also retiring and looking for social security checks? Oh well, no concern to Ryan or other “representatives” because it won’t be their problem…

    • Cathy

      And just how much in taxes will they pay compared to the benefits they get for having too many kids and extended family members living all together? There is no way they will pay their fair share. EVER And we will keep seeing our taxes increase our healthcare costs going up and I see nothing good at all coming from allowing illegals to become legal. They will pay no fees because they won’t be able to afford it and the government will then waiver these fees and taxpayers will be screwed again

      • snapperman

        The subsidies they will receive come out of a different pot, one that merely increases the national debt… (And I agree with you these people and generations of their descendants will never pay enough in taxes to cover their costs.)

  • flowpants

    Wow. Never thought I would agree with Paul Ryan on anything. However a piecemeal approach is a sham. R’s will pass the things they like first, putting pressure on the Senate to approve as well. Then, if they get those things, it stops there and the D’s don’t see what they want brought to the floor. We need the already approved Senate version brought for a straight up or down vote first. If that fails, let the negotiations continue.

    • SirCharles Norris

      Piece meal is a sham to libs because you can’t load a narrow, concisely worded bill up with “progress”ive goodies and hide stuff from the American people. “Progress”ivism is a sham, an unAmerican, unConstitutional sham at that.

      • flowpants

        What was “progressive” a few years ago is now mainstream. What passes for radical thought becomes mainstream. Think Marijuana law reform, gay marriage, women’s rights, etc…. The problem with the GOP is they stay stubbornly fixed while the world moves by. From their vantage point, mainstream looks extreme. That is why they need to make changes. Their base is dying off. Demographics are changing, and they want to continue to live in Mayberry circa 1956.

        • Locke-Fawkes

          Mayberry 1956 is better than Detroit, obozolot 2013.

          • flowpants

            “Obozolot”? Really? Are you like 13 or something? Anyway, I got news for you. I hope you are sitting down because this may be shocking. 1956 is gone, and it ain’t coming back. That is the problem with the Tea Party types. They simply can’t move on.

          • Locke-Fawkes

            I’m sure if you get your way the ‘tea’ party, aka any conservatives (even those unaffiliated, like me with a ‘tea party) will be in death camps like you communists/socialists always are want to do.

            So excuse us if we try to peacefully and legally push back to stop you until then, comrade.

            And yes, obozolot, this fictional world commies like you have created making the biggest fraud and crook in world history, BO into a messiah. Were we are going, you have to ride as well – and that’s into something worse than Stalin’s Russia during the purges and will make Castro’s Cuba look like a resort. Unchecked the entire nation will be Detroit.

        • SirCharles Norris

          No what was Communism a few years ago is now mainstream in the low information community. The fact you regressives just have never been told by your PMSNBC and Daily Kook propagandists is that if the same number of GOP voters who had shown up for McCain had also shown up in 2012, Romney woudl have won. And the problem is not that they are dead, its that the media’s dishonest cooperation with Oweblamer’s disgraceful, slanderous smear campaign turned off far too many white voters who didn’t like Obama and decided to just stay home. There was an article early on in the campaign that this is what Obama’s strategy was. Couple the dishonest, DNC cooperating media with his NSA database fueled get out the vote effort, Romney never had a real chance. It was the dirtiest, most dishonest campaign by a president as well as the media in modern history.

          • flowpants

            If that is the narrative that helps you sleep at night, embrace it. I’ll just go with the vote count.

    • Locke-Fawkes

      No amnesty.
      Do you want all crimes to be forgiven and the thing they stole given to them?

      It’s like giving the bank to a bank robber.

      • flowpants

        No. And the Senate bill does not offer that. All pay a fine for illegal entry.

        • Locke-Fawkes

          So it’s like giving a bank robber a parking fine and letting him keep the loot. That’s a lot better.

          • flowpants

            I don’t see it that way. Have a nice weekend.

          • Locke-Fawkes

            That is what it does.
            It’s lets the criminal keep the thing they stole.
            In this case it’s residency/citizenship… and any money they made whilst working illegally even if they paid no taxes on that income.

  • Gramera

    Border security???????? Am I hearing crickets? Send daily emails and flood them with our absolute demand for Border Security FIRST! It’s time we did a multi-million march on DC in protest.

    • mrrealworld

      The GOP doesn’t need the base anymore, they are looking for a new voting block, Latinos.

      • snapperman

        Unskilled/uneducated people are poor; poor people vote based on government handouts.

      • SirCharles Norris

        Well when I stay home you know they are in trouble. Between Bohner, Ryan and Schumio I am so disgusted I am about to stay home. I still will donate to the opponent of any serious primary challenger of anyone that votes for the bill (as I can afford) but I will still stay home on election day most likely. The GOP is about to give up the House with this progressive dream, millions of new low information voters bill when they are on the cusp of winning the Senate. Ryan, Rubio and Boehner really are stupid, stupid human beings. They all need to be sent packing and it makes me sick to even think I could be saying that about Ryan and Rubio who have let me down more than any other politicians in my lifetime.

        • mrrealworld

          Well stated. Personally, I will continue to support my local conservative officials but will no longer donate to the RNC, (asked them to remove my name) and will NOT vote for ANY GOP federal candidate for office. Hit them where it hurts the most, My VOTE & Money!

      • Buzz Swanson

        For every one lonely Latino they pick up, they will lose ten members of their base – including me.

        • mrrealworld

          I hear ya. You can stick a fork in me. I’m done. The GOP left me, I did not leave the GOP. Perhaps I’ll mosey on over to those “strains of libertarianism” that Governor Christie seems overly concerned about.

  • alogar

    The sine qua non for immigration reform must be that it first and foremost serve the national interest, so priority must be given to those with education, training and skills that the nation needs. Family re-unification must be relegated to secondary or tertiary status of importance and chain migration limited to immediate family only.

    • snapperman

      They’re talking to Hispanics, not people from India.

  • zonable

    Ryan, your 30 pieces of silver are waiting for you over at DNC Headquarters.

  • mrrealworld

    Just in time to ram it down America’s throat before the long Congressional holiday break/season.

  • CDisqusman

    Waste of time. Even if there were any enforcement, it would just get vetoed. Everyone please write Congress: NO AMNESTY!

  • E. O’Neal

    The GOP establishment is hell-bent on amnesty. If hey persist, the Republican base will leave and never come back.

  • sciteach123

    Another RINO traitor.

  • mike077

    Why is the GOP trying so hard to lose everything in 2014? That’s what will happen if immigration passes the House. Republican voters will stay home in droves. They will conclude, “Why elect Republicans when it makes no difference?” Then, Obama and the radical left will have a free hand for the next two years and disaster will result. The country will implode.

    Karl Rove is leading the party to disaster. Sarah, where is the Freedom Party?

    • E. O’Neal

      The entire Bush crowd needs to go away. Haven’t they done enough damage already?

  • Prorkba

    The GOP is doing the exact opposite of what needs to be done for America. If it does anything that leads to amnesty, and it looks like it will, the GOP is toast.

  • dp

    Bringing up issues for a vote that the people do not want, waists our time, patience and money. No wonder the Congress’s poll numbers stink.

  • BennyZ

    ENFORCE THE PRESENT LAWS YOU TRAITORS. STOP KISSING FOREIGN CITIZENS’ BUTTS!!!

  • JDaddy

    Go ahead and follow Rubio off the cliff. We dont forget. Want to test us?

  • Ivan Bunny

    For all his cerebral slide shows and slick presentations about how America is failing economically, for all his soaring rhetoric during the campaign it turns out that Paul Ryan is nothing but a fraud. How did they get to you Mr. Ryan? How many pieces of silver were you offered to sell out not only your soul but as Mitt Romney often said the soul of America. Were you threatened? Does someone have some dirt on you? Why? It is the height of hypocracy and outright treasonous to say we need to cut cut cut spending and send all the money and responsability back to the states and in the next breath advocate for amnesty to be given to a group of criminals from day one. If amnesty passes it will be the death of the American way of life. Thanks a lot for selling us out to La Raza, Paul.

  • slobbering fits

    Can I renounce mine and keep my money ?

    • slobbering fits

      I dont mean to be a jerk but There is no part of the government I trust at all any more .Not even smoky the bear

  • eaglechick

    Go ahead and vote…before 2014 primaries.

  • mrrealworld

    Don’t do anything about the economy. Just make it worse and give amnesty to millions in a shrinking economy, that will help the working man. :-/

  • Dantes

    Falling star. Everyone knows that if there is amnesty in a House bill, when it goes to the conference committee it will be immediate amnesty..not 15 years.

    Oh well. If the morons running the GOP inside the Beltway want to follow their path to extinction if they vote for this I guess we may as well get it over with now.

  • Confused

    Why does this need to come to the floor for a vote? The Senate refuses to bring issues all the time. Why can’t the House? What’s the rush?

  • snapperman

    I’ve donated to Ryan more than once; never again.

  • summersweater

    The bill should read as follows:
    1) We will build a huge fence.
    Nothing else will be done until complete.

    • mrrealworld

      They passed that in 2006. Fence? Still not built.

      • summersweater

        There built some of it but never finished it.

        • mrrealworld

          Yeah, I think it was like 30 miles of some 600 miles of fencing. That was when they were pushing McCain/Grahmnesty in 2007. It was an illusion of course to gain support, just like this bill but Americans know what this is, Amnesty.

    • slobbering fits

      We will lay a mine field the fence is coming .

  • TomasoPaine

    If you are a Republican with an IQ north of 40 and care about the future of the party, that is the only way to go. I make no predictions on the outcome, but the House Repubs cannot be seen as refusing the vote–otherwise they are well on their way to PINO status–Party in Name Only.

    • snapperman

      Either way they’re toast. I have never voted for a D – and I always vote. They say you can’t teach an old dog new tricks but I’m learning there’s not much point in going to the polls any more.

    • mrrealworld

      They already are PINO as there are no conservatives anymore. Nothing more now than moderates and Democrat-Lights.

  • wales777

    Ryan has to know what the progs plan is to merge the two bills. He has to and that makes him a filthy traitor to his principles and to the people he represents. Paul Ryan has officially lost his soul in the DC swamp. R.I.P!

    • TomasoPaine

      No one know what the final bill will look like. There are many deals to be cut before we get to that point.

      • wales777

        The point is that NO deal should be made with the Progs. Any bill that comes out of the house will have to be reconciled with the Senate bill. They will take out the good and put back the crap from the Senate and no one will read it and we will be stuck with a nightmare. YOU DON”T DEAL WITH PROGRESSIVES. You just don’t unless you want to take it in the a-$$.

  • aniptofar

    I new ryan was a rino. Time to send him packing.

    • TomasoPaine

      If Reps cut Ryan loose as a Rino, theirs witll be a PINO, a party in name only.

      • aniptofar

        And the difference would be????

        • TomasoPaine

          Democratic Presidents for another 3 terms….

          • aniptofar

            Go cry somewhere else. BO is president because AA’s voted 99% for him. The democrats have lost the white vote. NO Democratic president in decades has received the majority of the white vote.

            NO AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS UNTIL I GET AMNESTY FOR NOT PAYING TAXES FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

        • TomasoPaine

          20 years of Democratic dominance.

          We have had a lot more experience with migration than the Brits…. There is also the problem of scale. We are not going to deport 11 million people, and they are not going to follow Romney’s “self-deportation” advice, so the question is basically how do you legalize people–and since 2nd class citizenship violates American beliefs about equality, you end up with citizenship. Not a great alternative, but better than all the rest.

          • aniptofar

            People with your opinion are generall illegal immigrants.

            We don’t have to deport them. All we have to do is deny them jobs and housing. They will just like they came.

            They are not 2nd class citizens. THEY ARE CRIMINALS!

  • John Nixon

    nobody wants this. i see the moment this passes big corperations are going to dump excisting workers by the millions and replace them with the new cheaper everything wonderful illeagle.

  • jay

    I am done with the Republican party, I will never vote again for any Republican

    • mrrealworld

      The GOP left you, you did not leave the GOP.

  • Bob

    Ryan is done as far as conservatives go.

  • UteDB

    Ryan might as well shut up and switch parties just like we’ve advised Marco McCain Rubio to do. If these frauds push this crap through in October, I’ll sit out the election in ’14 and ’16 and will encourage others to do the same. The Tea Party put these crooks in office and the beauty is that we can also REMOVE THEM.

  • picomanning

    Ryan is problably designing the most appropriate plan. The past Presidents have given little more than lip service to the very serious problem of illegal immigration. This problem is just one of many serious fires to put out if we are to have a chance for a better America. Meanwhile the bottom is caving in in some areas of our nation. One thing for sure, Progressive Liberals have no clue as to how to repair this broken nation.

  • War_Machine2

    Welcome to the horse and pony show. I think it’s a trick to pull as many of us toward the center as they can. First Rubio tricks us into thinking he’s a true Conservative then he yanks the carpet out from under us. Now Ryan is doing the same thing. I think the GOP establishment makes them portray themselves as staunch conservatives. When a bill comes up that the GOP wants to support but we the people can’t they have one of their “Rising Stars” swing to the middle to pull a few of us with him. Just watch, right now they are saving Cruz for just such a situation. Something will come up that we can’t support but Cruz will see the moderate light and try to drag us into it kicking and screaming into it. I’m telling you we can’t trust anyone in politics these days. The only Republican we can seem trust is no longer in politics. Sarah Palin always stayed true to us! We really need her back.

    • TomasoPaine

      I think you give the “establishment” far more credit than it deserves. As far as I can see, it is every man for himself. And if the Christie-Paul controversy is any indication, it will get pretty vicious.

  • wales777

    Paul Ryan, you have betrayed us!

  • michaelgingerly

    Time for a third party. Any such legislation will revert to Senate amnesty in conference.

  • crudcutter

    Ryan is someone I will never vote for for anything

  • wales777

    Paul Ryan, you have betrayed us!!!

    • mrrealworld

      Not just Paul, the GOP doesn’t need the base anymore, they’re going to have Latinos. ;-) Identity politics, just like the left.

  • Jason Budd

    So then it goes to Senate conference committee, and the Senate gets what they want. Game over.

  • Voter with Long Memory

    Paul,
    You will be one of the main people we will blame for the destruction of the Republican Party if you do this. You RINOS just do not understand that this is your swan song as a party and your playing right into the hands of the LEFTIST that will destroy you and the country when this is done. Hope you like it in HELL because that is where you are leading the country and will spend the rest of your short political life you traitor!

  • Steven Paul

    Republicans all Morphine into john McCain…We are finishied

  • mrrealworld

    Conservatives leave the GOP and join the Tea Party? I’m in!

  • WBC

    This is such bogus stupidity – this is nothing but a one-way bus ride to North Mexico. The House GOP will pass multiple bills that will all go to Committee with the Senate bill and be reconciled in a single piece of legislation that will be indistinguishable from the POS put together by the RINO Gang of Eight. It will then pass both houses with the support of every democrap and the ususal RINO suspects. If they do this it’s time for the Tea Party to primary every one of these creeps and throw the Republican Party into the wilderness. It is better to destroy the GOP than to see it become a subsidiary of the democraps – and that’s all it will be if they pass amnesty.

  • Dantes

    It’s over. The GOP will commit suicide, and then it is only a matter of time until the country disintegrates under one party rule.

    • Roy Carver

      This scenario brings on Civil War II

      • Roy Carver

        50% of the population will not stand for no check/balances

        • WhiteBoy65

          They already are.

  • Grandinquisitor1

    Simple solution. If you are guilty of breaking US immigration laws you can NEVER become a citizen. Meaning you can never vote nor are you eligible for any welfare. If you want to live and work here and pay taxes that is fine but you get nothing in return.

    • exbobbie

      Grandinquisitor1, I’m afraid in states like Kalifornia, illegals already get welfare, free medical, free schooling for their children and many more forms of welfare.

      They also VOTE, along with the dead, the multi voters, the fixed voting machines and many other forms of fraudulent voting, plus the low info voters, the ‘gimmedat’ voters and the usual guaranteed democrat voters the black community, the socialists and the “I’ve always voted democrat”
      crowd of ‘guilty whites’, add to that the non votes of Conservatives, this is how the last election was won, or stolen, which ever you prefer.

      The democrats have found a proven formula as the last election has proved. Unless something is done about rampant election fraud, we had better get used to future democrat Presidents, total control of future Congress by democrats, oh, and add to that the exodus of disillusioned conservatives and the future doesn’t look good, at least not for conservatives.

  • WhiteBoy65

    Judas Ryan = Falling Star…What do you expect from a liberal northern politician who dated some brown sugar in college..

  • E. O’Neal

    How is a politician with no personality who lost a debate with Slow Joe Biden a “rising star”. In which galaxy?

    • crudcutter

      Have you seen some of the others? Cruz and Paul are the only two who don’t need notes on their hand to answer

    • http://www.liberallyconservative.com/ Don Anastas

      Falling star in our galaxy. He has joined Rubio at the hip.

    • picomanning

      Lost the debate with Biden? I suppose so if winning was measured by specious argument, volumn of lightweight words and quantity of self righteous arrogance. Biden is a baffoon, An idiot. please copy and paste something intelligent that Biden has said or written. Please.

    • 2summer4

      I agree. I never understood the hoopla over Ryan. Just like I never got Marco Rubio. Ryan’s wife and family were big Democrats. He must be sympathetic to them.

  • Jason Budd

    Let’s call it what it is – endorsed colonization, not immigration.

    • WhiteBoy65

      You got it.

  • attackslack

    Paul Mudd

    • charlesclloyd

      Paul Quisling
      Benedict Ryan

  • Cathy

    I use to like Rubio I use to like Ryan. Now who do we have? I see nobody to support now unless it’s Cruz or Paul. I’m a conservative and I want someone to vote for.

    • 2summer4

      Another one to watch is one who I used to like – Trey Gowdy. He was talking like a squishy RINO on immigration recently.

      • Buzz Swanson

        Not only Gowdy. Hugh Hewitt has tried to get other GOP lawmakers to publicly support the building of a real fence, and they just can’t bring themselves to do it? What is wrong with these guys?

  • http://www.liberallyconservative.com/ Don Anastas

    What doesn’t RINO RYAN understand about rule of law and either deportation or jail for lawbreakers?

  • michaelgingerly

    Looks like establishment Republicans are buying in to Obama’s breaking its fever.

  • HappyG

    Tell this pos that if they allows these illegals to retain American jobs they will be targeted as enemies of the state. When those who write our laws don’t have the self respect to demand that they are enforced, then they lack the moral capacity to lead. No new bill, enforce the lies they told us in 1986 for a decade, and then we may discuss ‘reforms’…Our kids and Grand-kids deserve a sovereign nation to grow up in and those charged with keeping our nation sovereign, are refusing to perform their oath to do so…it really is that simple.

  • Sammy

    I’m worried about the store being given away in consultations with the Senate version. Menendez hinted at this.

    • Don England

      Exactly. If the House passes anything and they go to conference behind closed doors it will be amnesty now, enforcement promises just like 1986.

  • HappyG

    Our nation doesn’t have an unemployment problem, it has a problem where millions of illegal invaders have come into our country, driven our wages down into the dirt, brought their poverty with them as they happily live 10-20 to an apartment as the norm and have taken jobs historically done by legal American citizens…and please don’t tell me that the corporations who claim they can’t find ‘qualified’ American employees couldn’t train them. We have more than enough raw talent here in America to train for those positions, they just prefer paying slave wages to those whom they control through the Visa process. And as for that old song ‘They’re doing jobs that Americans just won’t do’, I call bulls hit. Up here in the NE construction unions have been actively enrolling illegals for at least the past three years…In short, enforcing our laws will cause our spending to go down, our wages to go up and put Americans back to work…Like I said, it isn’t difficult…but our politicians lack the will to perform their duties…in short, they are bought and paid for.

  • Ivan Bunny

    The Republican Party is dead to me.

    • snapperman

      I think it’s just dead.

      • 2summer4

        It’s been sold out from under us by the likes of Boehner and Karl Rove. They’ve detested conservatives and worked against them. Also, there’s John McCain.

    • tommy

      right on. we need a new conservative party. these rinos are the pits. and i live in NJ with the worst one: Christie (he misses taking walks with Obama on our beaches)

      • WhiteBoy65

        Yeah, cheeseburger Christie is another Judas.

  • Pickee

    Australia is looking nicer and nicer.

    • Jason Budd

      Don’t kid yourself – Australia is ruled by loony Dems too.

      • 2summer4

        All the Western first world countries have been undermined and the globe will look like a third world hellhole, with the elites looking down at their slaves. I can just see Michelle Obama on her throne eating lobster sliders and drinking champagne – finally happy with her country.

  • chinook825

    political pandering at its finest! There is NO benifit in this for the american citizen or tax payer, only legislative punishments for not being an illegal…pass the bill and i for one will sit back and laugh the loudest when the shooting starts!

  • Jason Budd

    Simple math says that citizenship for illegal aliens turns Texas, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Arizona into blue states, thus turning the GOP into a regional at best perpetual minority party. That gives Dems complete control over every branch, and let’s them roll out complete communism, which has been their goal since Roosevelt.

    • charlesclloyd

      Actually since Woodrow Wilson.

      • Jason Budd

        Roger that.

    • Roy Carver

      GOP is done. It’s liberals and conservatives now. Parties are useless. This country is in bad shape because there is an unbridgeable divide.

      • 2summer4

        Obama is the unbridgeable divide. The foolish GOP cave to his wishes. This is like watching a horror movie.

        • WhiteBoy65

          It’s more like watching a dominant wife beat down a milquetoast husband…

  • HappyG

    Who the hell will ever respect our legal path to entry in the future when you choose to reward those who disrespect America…The “Dreamers” got free educations and many times took monies that a legal citizen should have gotten…if they have complaints, complain to their parents…Legal Americans have children too…and they are being screwed.

    • TomasoPaine

      And it thus make sense to legalize the Dreamers, take advantage of our investment, as well as not punishing children for the sins of their fathers.

      • HappyG

        As long as all future Chain Migration rights are stripped from them, it could be discussed…20 and under is the cutoff.

        • TomasoPaine

          At about 1.4 million, I am not sure that the number is large enough that you want to create different classes of citizens. In any event, they should probably work on limiting adult children and other categories in the general preference system.

  • tommy

    And I donated to your (and Mr. Romney’s) campaign? Wow, was I a sucker.
    You are committing polical suicide for the Repub party. Dems want illegals for voters. The illegals will never vote for Repubs to the point where it means something.
    Why do we owe these lawbreakers citizenship?

    • HappyG

      We don’t…they disrespected our nation upon entry and spat on those who have followed our legal path to entry and are still waiting to be called…These pandering politicians can stick their claims of ‘compassion’ up their azz…there is nothing compassionate about embracing those who cheated others.

    • TomasoPaine

      Actually, I think that the Republicans do better if they endorse this. These new voters, who generally do not have strong Party identification, will not be voting for 13 years–a lot of time for Republicans to figure out how to appeal to them.

  • DWKeller

    So, it is time to consider a new Party? Not the Libertarian Party (tho I like parts of it), but brand new. Open to all but based on the Spirit of the Declaration of Independence, based in Law and forward thinking (not “Progressive”).

    A Conservative/Liberal (old definition) small Government Party that let States decide social issues. Based in responsibility, personal ethics and Fun!

    We need to start talking.

    • Kevin Williams

      Lets start the NIP

      No

      Incumbents

      Party

      until we have driven all people out of both parties
      Then put a 2 term limit on all them.

  • buckbucko

    Paul Ryan should stick to budgets issues, as it clear he does not understand Immigration issues.

  • HappyG

    The problem with the pro-illegal types is that for some odd reason they believe these United States owe everyone in the world an opportunity to live here…We don’t…our immigration policy was designed for the betterment of our nation…if you have skills that we are lacking, and have followed our legal path to entry, then welcome aboard, let’s join together to make this country even greater…If you lack such skills, acquire them and then apply in a legal fashion…if we need the skill set you have to offer, we’ll call you…don’t call us…and if you don’t follow our legal path to entry, pack your bags…we have more than enough low skilled legal American citizens already…

  • Roy Carver

    There needs to be a 100% cleaning of the House and Senate next fall.

    • Roy Carver

      used to be politicians went to Washington to do a duty and after a few years went back home. SEND THESE GUYS HOME.

  • 123Star

    just beware of more trickery from the demo-rates.

  • bookish1

    Swell. For those of us in Arizona, this is chilling news because we are so close to the border. Poor people in Central America pay attention to our legislative shenanigans. Thanks a lot, Mr. Ryan and amigos.

  • theville502

    I always thought the republic would die by the hand of liberal progressives. Looking like I was right. Republicans like Ryan aren’t republicans at all.

    • Roy Carver

      Ronald Reagan said the Democratic party left him. You could say the same thing of the Repubilcan party today, but where do us conservatives go from here?

      • JDasien

        TEA Party.

      • theville502

        we don’t have a home. We are strangers in a strange land Mr. Carver.

        • Bretfox

          The Tea Party has infiltrated the RINO herd and soon the Tea Party will rule the House and Senate. Right now we are in the process of exposing the RINOs and the next step is to replace them with more Tea Party folks. Are you with us?

  • rthomp8363

    Anything passed must have that we will never do this again. From now on, if you are illegal, you are a criminal and will be thrown out of this country. But with the text in the senate bill, all relatives of anyone currently in the US will be eligible to come to the US legally, so basically with over 11 Million here now, that cover about 99% of those still in Mexico.

    • HappyG

      I guess you weren’t alive in 1986 when that was the mantra…No bill, and no ‘reform’ until they strictly enforce what they told us they would back in 1986 for a decade…Maybe by then, legal Americans will have jobs…This is insanity…

  • http://Drudgereport.com/ Marc

    Paul, God love ya, you need to run the house like Dirty Harry (yes call him Dirty Harry from the floor of congress) runs the senate. Make your slow move on amnesty vote contingent upon Dirty first putting up for vote the massive pile of bills under his desk. Until Dirty votes on approved house bills, nothing gets done. You see how easy that is? It would sound something like this: Dirty hates Latino’s because he is mean spirited, bull headed, greedy and caters to 1% special interests by refusing to vote on bills the house has passed long ago, it is Dirty who holds up amnesty. Dirty, Hard Working Middle Class Americans and Hard Working Latino’s wait and wonder when you will vote on the pile under your desk.

  • Blu Clw

    For such a bright guy he sure doesn’t seem to be paying much attention.

    I guess “No immigration talk until unemployment is back down to 4.5%” is just to hard of a word problem for some math geniuses to get!

  • cjinx79

    Paul Ryan just became dead to me. I will do everything i can to get him primaried and replaced with a conservative. What a disappointment

  • rellars

    Everyone for the last 12 years has said us fix the Republican Party from within well forget it we wasted many years forming a new party that would have been a great tool for forcing the Repubcats into a corner. Now its to late both the Repub and the socialist have done this country in its finished. Not even Reagan could save us.

    Rush L. was wrong about this for the last 12 years and I always knew he was. They can’t be fixed and it is to late. They are all the same. Rush is an insider making his millions just like them. Screw them all.

  • puhiawa

    The Sellout.

  • disqus_c197zi57ib

    How about FIRST closing the borders. If that is not done we will be a third world country in 5 years. Stop pandering to the illegals for votes you dirt bag Ryan.

  • Wayne Dehart

    That’s what we need, ‘double secret probation’…

  • AsktheWhiteGuy

    Rubio dared Ryan to do this. Ryan balked, but couldn’t handle it when Rubio called him “chicken,” and made a squawking noise.

    • mrrealworld

      Good one!

  • Charlie hook

    The GOP is in meltdown,thank to all the RINOs of the party.What he should have said,we are siding with the democrats on every issue.So much for Paul Ryans chance to be president.I guess it’s better to be told before he has a chance to get the nomination.there are too many people who claim to be conservative like many of the RINOs and get the vote then turn around and flip you the bird.

  • anonymous_economist

    Fanatical Catholics in the Congress are determined to substitute Church doctrine for the US Constitution. A huge new Hispanic demographic will give the Catholics the edge they need to take over control of our system of government.

  • Wayne Dehart

    Sell out #4,245,977 by the rhinos

  • FaithColeridge33

    Ryno.

  • demsaredelusional

    The problem with comprehensive bills is that is so much crap in it nobody what it says. Especially the people who are voting on it.

  • DurkaDurka

    All these RINO’s are going to us killed. Quote some Ayn Rand. Sit on my couple Mil. Fk the planet. Profit. Yea, no Paul. Fk You. It’s last call, and it’s your turn to get the check. We’re done fondling your balls.

  • HappyG

    No one is surprised that the Senate is incompetent, but what real republicans and real democrats need to do is stand up and demand that our existing laws be diligently enforced for ten years, before anyone in DC entertains the thought of ‘reforming broken laws’…They’re not broken, only the will to enforce them is…Hard working, legal US citizen deserve, and demand proper representation…We are a nation of laws that is under attack because some lack the will to enforce the oaths they took…Our kids and Grand kids deserve much better. Shame on you all.

  • bevus

    IF they vote for amnesty is any form or base this on trusting Obama, I will never vote for another Republican! never! and I am a life long Republican voter. NO mo RINO’s, NO MO Bushs, NO MO Mclosers, NO MO Mitts, But, I do not want a SAntorum or libertarian either!? and certainly no progressive commies.

    • mrrealworld

      Here’s your RINO’s and Dino’s in the Senate. Hope this helps;

      Alexander
      (R-TN)

      Ayotte
      (R-NH)

      Chiesa
      (R-NJ)

      Collins
      (R-ME)

      Corker
      (R-TN)

      Flake
      (R-AZ)

      Graham
      (R-SC)

      Hatch
      (R-UT)

      Heller
      (R-NV)

      Hoeven
      (R-ND)

      Kirk
      (R-IL)

      McCain
      (R-AZ)

      Murkowski
      (R-AK)

      Rubio
      (R-FL)

      Measure Number:

      S. 744 (Border Security,
      Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act )

  • Clover11111

    So how does Ryan tell his constituents that his actions could cost them their jobs and way of living?

    • Bretfox

      He should tell his constituents that his action will cost him his job as well as their job.

  • Sachel McNellie

    I’m glad there’s at least one REAL conservative in Washington willing to stand up for our principals and values. America thanks you, Mr. Ryan.

    • Roy Carver

      Ummmmm

  • alien5

    As Conservatives we are doomed, the liberal scum is occupying the rinos brains

  • James Madison

    Border security and enforcement now, legal status later.

    If we have a repeat of 1986, I’m switching parties and never looking back.

  • Richard Belson

    What is it going to take for you red neck backward republican hillbilly’s to realize you live in the past the evolution of the human spirit is thankfully gone Democratic.
    Thank God we will have more voters on our side. BYE-BYE I’ll be watching for your exhibit at my local museum.

    • Roy Carver

      Insults gets you nowhere. Too bad you forgot that in America, we’re free to have a different thought and belief, but your leaders seem to think anyone who disagrees is a racist, bigot, etc.

    • Van Grungy

      I look forward to the collapse the Democrats own

      • Richard Belson

        Van Grumpy lighten up we are all the same people .You guys have to learn to relax and think for the betterment of our society. Study nature a bit and see how far a species makes it when a member looks out for him self only. With a little bit of thought we can over come any problem . That’s what the Dem’s know

    • WhiteBoy65

      Turd!

    • Roy Carver

      Oh by the way.. it’s only a matter of time before the number of voters swings back to the conservatives favor. You liberals are killing yourselves off between the gays who can’t procreates and the mothers who abort their babies, how do you even sustain a voting populas?

    • Gymmer

      Only if you build your Museum on a dung heap where all the other slimy and despicable Marxist regimes are now situated! Good luck comrade you are going to need it!

  • MrScott

    “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore…” I am tired, poor, wretched, blind and naked. But I am free. And that is something of value. The USA: unique from every other country somehow will survive this insanity.

    • WhiteBoy65

      Lay off the kool aid Pal…

      • whatitism

        When I read your post , I don’t know why but I had the immediate thought of the famous last words of a redneck ” HEY YALL , WATCH THIS”

      • whatitism

        Whiteboy 65 that was a reply to mr scott not you , don’t know why it showed otherwise

  • Victoria Koseck

    Stupid Rino!

  • HappyG

    No new bill. For some strange reason you and those like you seem to think correcting our immigration problem is an insurmountable problem…I assure you, it isn’t. With proper enforcement, hundreds, if not thousands, would be deported almost daily as they make their way through our court systems. As it currently stands, many, but surely not all illegals, are committing crimes and are being given a ‘continued without finding’ by liberal judges so they won’t be subject to deportation…especially here in Massachusetts. The cost alone for the interpreters for those criminals is astronomical…if it were you or I, we would indeed be in jail.

    While that would address some of the illegals, strict enforcement of our already existing, but hardly ever enforced employment laws, buoyed by a few high profile cases where employers were not only heavily fined, but jailed and had some of their assets confiscated, would serve as a warning to others that our American sovereignty and laws to protect it will be enforced. And when those who should not be here cannot find employment, they will, as they did back in 2008, self deport…you see it really isn’t difficult if we put our nation first…the problem lies with the elected officials who think our laws are but mere words to be dismissed and distorted…Our kids deserve much better than this…it’s time our ‘leaders’ put American families first for a change…and that would indeed be a ‘change’ I could believe in.

    As for the ‘compassion’ defense…let me know how ‘compassionate’ it is to let the applicant who respected our nation’s laws remain waiting, while those who disrespected our legal path to entry are allowed to remain here, in front of them.

  • Jeff

    Ryan just threw away the 2014 midterms.

    • Mikeyv65

      Im glad he came out with his idea of what is to come. The good people of WI can throw his a$$ out soon! He can count me in on this one!

  • Gymmer

    Ryan and the other like minded Republicans, like Obama, just keep getting sicker and sicker by the day. Soon they will be as insane as Obama and his like minded Marxists!

    • Johnrambo1

      Neoconservativism was started by Irving Kristol a Trotskyite. Look it up.

  • kenfrombayside

    Guess what the democrats are obsessed with right now? Giving 11 – 30 million (nobody knows for sure) criminal lawbreakers legalization. Plus, they could sponsor their relatives; that would bring the total up to about 50 million aliens in our midst. Of course, these new citizens will vote for the vile democrats and their socialist giveaways. Most of them will be unskilled, uneducated, low IQ etc. Stop this outrageous bill now. Don’t sit on the sidelines.You are not wasting your time. The American people don’t want this bill. You have to do all you can do to stem the third world assault:
    - Contact your 2 US Senators and rep in congress.
    - after biz hours, leave a message on your DC rep’s voicemail. All US Senators have multiple offices so it would be a good idea to hit all of the. Remember, be civil and don’t threaten
    - go to NUMBERSUSA then go to the take action button. You will be able to send faxes to your 2 US Senators and congressional for free. (I also gave a $50 donation).
    - use Business Reply envelopes to state your opposition to America’s insane immigration policies and the proposed amnesty. Don’t give the parties any money.
    - join an immigration group like FAIR. Strength thru numbers!
    - go to the RNC & DNC sites to email them.
    - Use the media: call a talk radio program; write a letter to your local paper. If the media outlet is liberal, then talk about economic impact of massive third world immigration.
    - text everybody in your cell phone queue now.
    IF YOU DO OR SAY NOTHING, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.

  • Al Weezy

    RINO has come out of his CLOSET…

  • UMTigerFan

    Oh so typical. Most people who self identify as Republican, and a whole lot of other folks, don’t want a path to citizenship. But our imperial elected officials know better than we do. So shut up and do what we tell you and like it to boot!

    Don’t like Obama Care (65%+ of the country) – Tough – take your medicine!
    Don’t like Immigration Reform – Tough – meet your new neighbors!
    Don’t like higher taxes – Tough – we simply call them fees or penalties!

    And they wonder why they keep loosing elections.

    Do they really listen to the democrats and believe that they really want them to win elections. No wonder they got the nickname of “Stupid Party!”

  • Al Weezy

    Another Rising Star…which was a DYING STAR because he wanted to take away your SOCIAL SECURITY is done.

  • Spikehb

    Sure, we have almost 100% of Americans working full time under Obama’s robust economy so you might as well carry his water for him and make amnesty a high priority. Gotta get those campaign donations from the agribusinesses that want that cheap labor. Piss on what it actually does to the country.

    Sorry but I know you’re too smart to not know what you are doing. You are dirty.

  • Nevadavoter1

    These RINO’s ae laying the groundwork for decades of Democratic control of the Federal government. They believe that by wooing the hispanic vote short term they will at least be able to stay in the political ballgame. Unfortunately, they are alienating their conservative base who will never return as long as there is a viable Liberterian alternative. Certainly, they will lose the mid-term chance at gaining the Senate and will have blown the opportunity to gain the Presidency in 2016. Conservatives won’t swing to the left… they just won’t vote like in 2012 or 2016. A book (or books) will be written on the folly of not sticking by your principles using our current conservative political players as the ones who lost the conservative cause for generations.

  • Al Weezy

    go make a px90 who give a f u k commercial you Eddy Munster Haircut wearing RINO.

    • Rooster68

      “Eddy Munster Haircut”! and I thought I was the only one that saw that. LMAO!
      Seriously,you people need to realize there are no Ds or Rs anymore. Just a bunch of oligarchs.

  • JDasien

    Paul Ryan is a pe-ii-is.

  • Johnrambo1

    Tbis just in,Paul Ryan loses his seat…

  • Al Weezy

    Try to take away my social security and now Amnesty…shut this A hole up.

  • Bretfox

    So, Paul you want to give illegals a free gift of probation followed by another free gift of citizenship. The fifteen years is in the bill just to get it passed and of course like always a year later, if not sooner, you vote again to reduce the period to a few months. Who are you kidding? Another RINO bits the dust.

  • Al Weezy

    Citizenship gets cheaper with RINOs like Ryan…

  • Al Weezy

    Another RINO bites the DUST.

  • Jason Budd

    Between citizenship for illegal aliens and yesterday’s stamp of approval for NSA spying on everyone, I just don’t see any difference between the GOP and the Dems anymore. I’m going Libertarian from now on. F it.

  • Al Weezy

    Ryan you couldn’t even win your own STATE and now we know why.

  • red_fez

    So, you’ll be selling us out in October… the beginning of America’s end.

  • Al Weezy

    RINO alert…RINO alert…danger danger.

  • CitizensKB

    I agree. We need to have a vote on Citizenship. That should include the words “If you do not have atleast one parent who is a legal U.S. Citizen and you are born in the U.S. then you are not a U.S. Citizen.”

  • HappyG

    End all Chain Migration immediately for anyone who ever becomes a citizen from this day forward…They were never meant to suck on our social services teat, yet they are forcing it to collapse…Make no mistake, the fall of America is a fifty year project coming to fruition…The Dohrns, Ayers, Rudds and others never gave up their “Death to America” campaign, they merely took it to our school systems and corrupted our most vulnerable…our children who now think JFK said, “Your country owes you”…

  • Nevadavoter1

    American citizenship is no longer the prize it once was, certainly not to those living south of the border or those here illegally. As an immigrant, I would never move here and become a citizen know what i know now. Fortunately, I got my kids out of the country in time and I’ll be dead before it much matters to me!

  • Slappyhappy

    No Republican voting block will back an immigration fraud bill except businesses. Ryan will be rejected by the voters. Ryan is a nice guy, but he insured Romney’s loss because he was the SS third rail idiot. Now, Ryan is not only associated with the third rail, but also citizenship for millions of illegals. Ryan will never hold public office as a Republican again. Republicans need to get the 40% of voters that didn’t turn out for Romney/Ryan to get off their couches and vote. If Hillary wins kiss the Republic goodbye. mcd

  • indocon

    F him and F his party.

  • anonymous_economist

    Do RINO’s think of themselves as such? I think they see those calling them RINO’s as low-info losers that love to sit at their computers day and night and complain about life.

    Ryan is not a communist and he knows he not a communist. Ryan doesn’t like Obama and he knows that too. He also knows he’s got conservatives over-the-barrel, that is, you vote for him or you vote for his Democratic opponent who is a real communist and who really does like Obama.

    • Van Grungy

      vote for the backstabber, he’s not a communist that will stab you in the front

      • anonymous_economist

        All politics is local, that is, time and place. Ryan will be re-elected and he knows it. There will be some real conservatives that will stay home and sit out an election, but local issues will get many of them back voting for RINO’s in the next two elections.

    • lyndaaquarius

      not over the barrel at all.

      • anonymous_economist

        You may be right, but as of now all I’m hearing is a bunch of name-calling and posturing from people who claim to be conservatives.

    • LabRat

      I used to think that way, but no more. I am sick and tired of the RINO wing of the party trashing conservatives every chance they get. It was conservatives that gave them the house in the first place in 2010 and they have done nothing with it. We don’t need a Dem and a Dem-lite party. We want our Republican party back or they will die like the Whigs.

      • anonymous_economist

        I wish I knew where the Tea-Party stands on these issues, but everything they say is now filtered by Fox News.

      • anonymous_economist

        You may be right.

  • eeddggy

    Ryan, you have become a colossal disappointment……. to say the least. What has Karl Rove done to brain wash you?

  • Blu Clw

    I love these politicians who think their so fing smart. Like they unlike their predecessors know the proper way to massage an unpopular idea so we can all accept it!

    Its absurd, like the immigration issue is that freaking complicated. They want to come here and get a job and we don’t want them here taking our jobs while so many are unemployed! Not a fing hard concept to grasp,nor is there much room for massaging such a simple concept!

  • Michael Barrett

    We need to dump this turncoat.

  • ZUBZUB

    WELL, THAT GIVES THE GIRLS A COUPLE MONTHS TO FLUSH OUT THEIR HEAD GEAR AND GET BACK ON THE CLOCK. NO AMNESTY.

    END IMMIGRATION-”WE’RE FULL UP!”

  • Al Weezy

    Ryan willing to TOSS the nation into Harm’s Way for what? How much MONEY were you PAID?

  • tailgunner002

    I am so sorry I bought in that he was a conservative,,what a sell out!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677609068 Jack White

    Good bye America.

  • HappyG

    There isn’t a Black American in the country that should vote for any Senator or representative that is intent on adding 11 million illegals to our work pool…Black Americans will get hurt the most, but their so-called ‘leaders’ can hardly wait to sell them into perpetual unemployment…

    • corvinus

      Don’t count on blacks to be smart enough to think that logically. They’ll continue to be yellow-dog Democrats no matter what happens.

      • NoAmnesty

        That is, as long as the free cheese flows.

    • WhiteBoy65

      You’re to optimistic when it comes to Africans.

  • corvinus

    Obama won in 2012 because Romney was so harsh on immigration. In fact, he was so harsh that he made Paul Ryan his running mate.

    • LabRat

      You’re funny, I almost thought you believed that for a moment.

  • orlandocajun

    Marco Rubio Part II

  • Brian Cunningham

    Paul RINO’s political future in on the path to oblivion, just like Marco Rubio’s.

  • chronovisor

    fn traitorous ahole rino ryan! f you and all the other rinos who want to make ILLEGALS citizens!

  • WhiteBoy65

    Paul Ryan is the congressional version of Fredo Corleone …

  • Al Weezy

    Yep that DRUNK BO NER will let RYAN shove it up the PEOPLEs AZZ…

  • Vic Karras

    I’ll never give a damn dime to that party (GOP) ever again. I feel betrayed. Why obey laws when these bums let them get away with breaking it. I’ve had enough. They can go to blazes as far as I’m concerned. They demean the memory of my grandparents who came to this country legally and followed all the rules. And now look what it has done. I’ll never ever trust any of them ever again. Why bother to vote? It’s a waste of time. I’ll never ever give to the Democrats. They’re nothing but communists who are undermining the rule of law. Congress passed the 1986 Immigration and Reform Act and never ever enforced it. Does anyone think they’ll enforce the new law, the disgrace of a law? If you believe that then I have some snake oil to sell you. The can all go to blazes.

  • Can Do Math

    This guy is having Amnesty wet dreams every night

  • Al Weezy

    Does no good to vote Republican, when they turn into this…RINO.

    • anonymous_economist

      I guess you’re not old enough to remember the days of the dime-store new dealers.

  • HappyG

    Hey Ryan, catch a clue…By the time Ellis Island had closed it had allowed 12 million immigrants to enter this country legally at a time when these United States needed more bodies to build out our nation. Those immigrants were subject to a multitude of testing and background verifications which caused many to be denied entry. Flash forward to 2013 and a totally dumbed down American populace uses our history of immigration to buttress their faux claim that illegal immigration was what ‘our country was built’ on…We have a process for legal entry to this country and it’s been in place since the beginning of the Twentieth Century; it was designed to allow entry to this country those whose skill sets we were lacking at the time…If anyone can honestly state that in a modern day USA which has over 20 million of it’s own legal citizens either under, or unemployed, that we need to add millions more to our work pool, then they clearly do not have the best interests of these United States, nor the spirit of our long in place legal immigration laws as their guide. We are under attack both foreign and domestic…and it must stop now.

  • Kevin Williams

    Everyone should let Mr. traitor opps I mean Ryan know how you feel give him a call. besides you’re paying for his offices make them earn it.

    (202)225-3031

  • GGCMM

    I try not to make the same mistake twice. So therefore I will never vote for him again!

  • Aryan_Pride

    screw this traitor he’ll get the Rubio treatment

    • Roy Carver

      Cleaning the House and Senate in 2014!!

      • Roy Carver

        EVERY incumbant must go

  • NoAmnesty

    You’d better be on the right side of this vote Ryan (no amnesty), or you can kiss your azz goodbye!!

  • eeddggy

    It feels as if all of DC is against the American people. I don’t trust any politician other than Ted Cruz and I pray that he stays true to the Constitution.

    Just a sad commentary when the people that are entrusted with doing the proper thing turn out to be the enemy.

  • Amash

    Another one I’ll never vote for.

  • Reelman1946

    Enforce current law!
    Stop the pandering…
    stop listening to the vile corrupt media and the democrat socialists that hate everything you stand for…wake up!

    Its the economy…
    its smaller gov-meant/lower taxes/less secularism…
    its democrat monster debt, its demcorat 46% borrowed $$$, its demcorat printing megabillions of funny $$$ every month,
    its democrats ignoring laws and on and on and on…
    its NOT immigration that is rotting this nation…

    go home and have some real Town Hall meetings, get out of D.C.!!!…

  • Al Weezy

    You can Join Rubio in CUBA…you turn coat RINO.

  • Bob Hall

    I will support anyone-even a Democrat-who runs against you if you turn your back on the country and provide a path to citizenship for the 11 million illegals and their 30 million relatives(Chain immigration).
    You will prove to be a super RINO if you do. I will not piss on your leg to watch it splash..

  • maxonepercent

    The GOP is suicidal. They are allowing rich, left-wing interests to unduly influence their decision making. If amnesty passes it will be the end of the GOP and the US as we know it. Once the democrats have another 30-40 million new welfare-addicted voters to count on we can kiss the 2nd Amendment and eventually the 1st Amendment goodbye forever.

  • Famous Dave

    UNTIL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE MAKE THEM FEEL THAT THEY “STAY ALIVE, LITERALLY” ONLY IF THEY VOTE NO FOR AMNESTY, WILL THE RINOs BACK DOWN…

    COME ON PEOPLE, THE FOUNDING FATHERS WOULD HAVE ALREADY EXECUTED OBAMA FOR TREASON.. THESE RINOS NEED TO KNOW THAT AMERICANS WILL REVOLT & PUT THEM TO DEATH FOR A TREASON VOTE FOR AMNESTY.

  • FFlintstone

    Say goodbye to the Republican Party and hello to a strong libertarian party. The Tea Party will no longer support Republicans. Americans are hurting and they’re spending all their time trying to help lawbreaking Mexicans.

    • Bretfox

      Well said although I think the Tea Party and the Libertarian Party should stay in the GOP and do as we did in 2010 and keep gaining seats. I think 2014 will be the election that will make or break the GOP. By make I mean kicking out RINOs and replacing with Tea Party and Libertarian Party people

  • rancher

    That is the hint/hint for a new flood of parasites to COME GET IN ON THE GRAVY TRAIN.

  • wfwilson6

    Maybe Paul needs to talk with John, and they both need to talk with the American people.

    • frank ross

      And “RUBIO”, the trader !

  • HappyG

    Dear Paul Ryan,

    My sense of humanity dictates that rewarding those who cheated others by jumping in front of them can never be justified. So please, take your pomposity and spread it elsewhere.

    Conveniently you continue to dismiss the actions of both the border jumpers and those who employed them…but most glaringly is your assumption that those who promised legal US citizens in 1986 that they will from that day forward enforce our laws and there will never be another amnesty…Sorry Pauly, but in my world words matter…and many of those who told us that lie in 1986 worked to make sure those laws were never enforced.

    Under no circumstances should any who failed to comply with our legal immigration path to entry as stated in 1986, ever be granted citizenship in these United States…nor have any access to any social services networks. On this earth men and women makes choices, and those choices they make have consequences…if you take issue with that fact, my I suggest you take your claims to any other developed country in the world and give them your spiel…Our future generations deserve better and pressing #2 for English, certainly isn’t it.

    • Jerry Tangren

      if you reward people who break the law…

  • Al Weezy

    I give up…might as well move to Canada and be an immigrant there.

  • capoprimo

    We should look to the UK for guidance! They just recently began an advertising campaign advising all illegals to return to their countries or else will be forcibly removed.
    The UK has had a lot more experience in this area and they found out that having all the illegals is not of benefit to their country. Why don’t we recognize this very obvious fact?

    • TomasoPaine

      We have had a lot more experience with migration than the Brits…. There is also the problem of scale. We are not going to deport 11 million people, and they are not going to follow Romney’s “self-deportation” advice, so the question is basically how do you legalize people–and since 2nd class citizenship violates American beliefs about equality, you end up with citizenship. Not a great alternative, but better than all the rest.

      • maxonepercent

        I disagree, the only reason they haven’t “self-deported” yet is because they can still get jobs and still collect welfare. If we make it impossible for them to survive here they will move on to greener pastures, they are itinerant workers after all, very few have any substantial connections here in the US.

        • TomasoPaine

          First, there are a lot of people who have been here for a long-time, so the itinerant worker argument only applies to some. Second, you often have families where some people are legal and others are illegal–so anything which puts pressure on those illegally here also affects those legally here. So, it would not be easy to make it work–and the only folks who have tried, states like AZ, have found that it is hard to do legally.

          • maxonepercent

            I live in Arizona, the only thing that has made immigration law enforcement difficult here has been the interference of the Federal government. In fact, SB1070 and everify have been quite successful here, our unemployment rate is the lowest in the region and there has been an appreciable decrease in illegal-immigration related crime in the last few years.

            There are illegals who have been here for a long time, but they are actually the minority. At least 2/3rds of illegal immigrants have arrived within the past 5 years. Also, it is not uncommon for first-generation Mexican American children to move down to Mexico willingly. Although you will never hear this on the news, Mexico’s economy is humming along quite nicely and there are actually decent opportunities for US educated bi-lingual young people down there. It is not the massive impediment that certain activists want to make it out to be.

      • HappyG

        Total bullshid Tomaso…when they can’t work or get welfare they will indeed self-deport…but you knew that…

        • TomasoPaine

          Yeah, but preventing work will require such draconian policies (and damage to other family members who are often legal) that it will not happen… And I think that you know that. The best policy is to get serious workplace verification, a labor market policy that reflects needs while giving preference to native workers, etc…Once you do that, you can clean up the labor market, radically diminish future illegal migration, etc.

          • HappyG

            Why is it that everything seems insurmountable to you lefty types? Try this for a start…

            Our nation doesn’t have an unemployment problem, it has a problem where millions of illegal invaders have come into our country, driven our wages down into the dirt, brought their poverty with them as they happily live 10-20 to an apartment as the norm and have taken jobs historically done by legal American citizens…and please don’t tell me that the corporations who claim they can’t find ‘qualified’ American employees couldn’t train them. We have more than enough raw talent here in America to train for those positions, they just prefer paying slave wages to those whom they control through the Visa process. And as for that old song ‘They’re doing jobs that Americans just won’t do’, I call bulls hit. Up here in the NE construction unions have been actively enrolling illegals for at least the past three years…In short, enforcing our laws will cause our spending to go down, our wages to go up and put Americans back to work…Like I said, it isn’t difficult…but our politicians lack the will to perform their duties…in short, they are bought and paid for.

          • TomasoPaine

            Do you have any evidence for your view of the American labor market? I don’t think that even conservative econmists like Borgas would see it as you do.
            Take a look at http://public.cq.com/docs/weeklyreport/weeklyreport-000004178908.html and tell me what you think.

          • HappyG

            The U6 number rose from 13.8% up to 14.3% in June 2013, and the WH and MSM types are hailing our economy as making ‘great strides’…Wake up…Goebbels used the same tactics on an otherwise intelligent society…
            http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm

      • flowpants

        Finally a voice of reason. Deportation is a pipe dream. Never ever going to deport 11 million people. In some cases children are legal, parents are not. Yes, the images of those families being torn apart will not sit well with voters. You are correct. Securing the border and allowing some tolerable path to citizenship, or at least legal working status, is the only way.

    • Jerry Tangren

      and take Mexico for example

  • jeffb71

    Woohoo, dissolve the border baby!

    • NoAmnesty

      Crazy.

  • lyndaaquarius

    Is there any politician in America who is completely trustworthy and very Pro-America?? I think there is.

    • NoAmnesty

      Heh, heh…man, I don’t think so.

    • Can Do Math

      Until Ted Cruz lets me down my stock is in him

  • Andylit

    If any bill comes out of conference with any form of “path” or any other amnesty, the GOP will lose the House in 2014.

    • anonymous_economist

      And that will enable Obama to consummate Bush’s dream of a one-world government and an end to US sovereignty. Then what do we do?

      • Andylit

        A word that will get me put on a list or five.

        Heck, it will just get me a footnote.

        Revolution, baby, revolution. It will happen at the ballot box or it will spill into the streets. I expect 2016 to be the breaking or turning point.

        The next two elections are going to show us the way.

        • anonymous_economist

          Things may very well go that way. I certainly don’t have a crystal ball.

  • Stella

    Steve King for President 2016

    • 2summer4

      Agree. But have you seen the downright slamming Boehner gave Steve King over King’s very fine immigration comments. There no room for the other side of an argument with Boehner. He treated King worse than he’d treat a Democrat.

      • Stella

        Tried to call Boehner’s office today but he is rather insulated. Messages saying they were covered up with calls and I would have to wait. Finally a recording came on with Boehner reading some meaningless script and suggesting to leave a message. This is the only way evidently for an American to reach their Speaker of the House.

      • Stella

        And I also called Cantor’s office regarding his support of amnesty. And most definitely called Representative King’s office to thank him for standing with Americans against amnesty and not retracting his statements as Wolfie wished him to do.

  • Al Weezy

    Why would uneducated, unskilled, non assimilating immigrants be good for our COUNTRY? I can’t figure it out….they have NO skills, No higher education and don’t want to speak ENGLISH…

  • Aryan_Pride

    This is a declaration of war against the american people, get ready brothers

    • Neoconhater

      If you’re a white supremacist like you it’s war, for everyone else it’s nothing of the sort.

  • Al Weezy

    Good for our country….WHY????

  • ohreallynow66

    My head is in my hands. This guy was given a high profile position as the VP nominee. He could stand for something as a strong conservative and run in the next election. Yet he chooses to go the inside Washington, McCain etc. route. He has learned nothing from the experience he was given.

    • Jerry Tangren

      the experience is all ours; we trusted this man; never again

  • maxonepercent

    Why are the republicans being so idiotic about this push for amnesty? All they need to do is ignore it and instead attack the Democrats regarding the economy and Obamacare and they are guaranteed big victory in 2014. Instead they seem obsessed with destroying the party from within more than a year before the election.

    • Roy Carver

      It’s suicide. Are they that out of touch with their constiuents??

      • maxonepercent

        You have to believe a fix is in, I think big globalist interests are basically buying them off. For example, Rubios political career is over, but I am sure he will leave office a very rich man.

    • ohreallynow66

      Honestly, I don’t get it. It makes no sense to me at all. Don’t they read their own polls?

    • flowpants

      I would expect our elected leaders to actually address problems. Are you suggesting they stop governing, stand on their desks and scream insults instead? They have a job to do.

      • maxonepercent

        It is not a serious problem in the eyes of the voters though, I think it ranked 9th in recent polling, even below gay marriage. Moreover, it is wildly unpopular among registered republican voters, even 3/4ths of GOP senators voted against it! The implementation of Obamacare and the continuing economic dysfunctionalism are FAR more important issues, they should be smart and focus on those things instead of starting a civil war within the party.

        • flowpants

          Then I would suggest they just bring the Senate bill to the floor for an up or down vote. If it fails, it is back on the Senate to do something different. That can be done very quickly.

          • maxonepercent

            Actually, they should reject it altogether because it is a spending-bill. The Constitution states that spending bills can only originate in the house. Also, why should the GOP deliberately hurt itself to appease a handful of liberal extremists? They control the house, therefore they should use that power to strengthen the party not destroy it. That is what the democrats did when pelosi was in charge.

          • Bretfox

            Correct. Do not bring this up for a vote. We have laws on the books to address illegal immigration. Just enforce the current laws.

    • Kosh94

      They have been listening to LIBERALS for too long. They are weak and spineless. we need strong, articulate conservatives, not the dicque-headed a$$-canyons that pretend to be conservatives. Perhaps a test to see who understands our US Constitution would be a good start. Dump McCain too. He has been DAMAGED GOODS since he was a POW. and he’s been brainwashed, and helped into office by the commies. Just listen to his BS, and read his stuff and you’ll be convinced.

    • frank ross

      They’re ALL in on it TOGETHER ! They don’t care about the “We the people”, only MONEY AND POLITICAL POWER !

  • HappyG

    John Boehner may very well sign his own death warrant if he allows any bill to be voted on…Real Americans demand that our existing laws be enforced as we were told they would be in 1986…they unlike our elected leaders, believe that the laws made by our legislature should be enforced as written…We’re tired of this see-saw ride, legal Americans need jobs for themselves and for their kids, just once it would be nice if those who proclaim they ‘have the best interests of America in their hearts’ just once included the American people in that equation. No bill, enforce our damn laws.

    • jnnrd54surrounded by libs

      I COULD NOT AGREE MORE BUT WHO IS LISTENING TO US?

  • Paul

    Ryan and the GOP are finished

    • drdebdrdeb

      Yep

  • Pug

    I live in Ryan’s district and will be staying home the next time he’s up for re-election. I’m sick and tired of RINO’s. If they do not secure the border before anything else is passed then I will not be voting.

    • ohreallynow66

      Maybe go so you can vote for other worthy candidates on the ballot.

    • Buzz Swanson

      Make sure he knows that.

  • Al Weezy

    More dead wood to leech off the people…great ideal RINOs

  • bigsurb

    I didn’t read any further that BI-LINGUAL LISTENING SESSION.
    Screw you bums to hell and back.

    Congress…Stop dressing up the fake image of poor needy immigrant farmers and look at the mid eastern drug cartel illegals, now filling Santa Cruz for one, and you be the one…

    YOU hand them their citizenship papers. And have your families standing next to you when you do.

    • flowpants

      Good thing you stopped reading. You may have actually gained some information. Close one, you really dodged a bullet there.

  • 3Dunedain90

    And I had hoped the issue would be Obama’s citizenship, as fraud specialists are lining up and coming away with the concensus that his birth papers are doctored.

  • Al Weezy

    I see a Civil War in our future…

    • flowpants

      Then grab the ol squirrel rifle and get this thing started.

      • Al Weezy

        Coming from a guy who never shot a daisy bb gun…

        • flowpants

          Got that wrong. I’m actually kind of into guns. I only own one glock now, but I’m eying upping the collection. You see, not everyone walks lockstep with party doctrine. Try thinking for yourself sometime.

          • Al Weezy

            don’t shoot your FOOT off.

  • http://forumsforjustice.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3997&postcount=13 Forums4Justice

    Obama is lying to America – illegals, legalized, will hurt Social Security

    Illegal Immigrant Employment, as it now exists, within our United States

    On-the-Books, Poor, and Uneducated, Illegals, or Legalized Illegals, FICA Taxes, and Income Taxes Paid

    http://forumsforjustice.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4053&postcount=1

  • rancher

    Do you think he mentioned gangs and crimes against American citizens has to stop? Multiple id’s collecting welfare?

  • HappyG

    The notion that the “Gang of Eight” represent Main Street America is a myth created by the pro-illegal MSM types…I find it quite telling that our Fifth Column has repeatedly failed to note that back in 1986 the same lies about enforcement were told to the American people, only to have the same politicians that made those promises, work feverishly to make sure they never came to fruition…When Black Americans finally realize that they have been sold out by their elected ‘leaders’ and foisted into 50%+ perpetual inner city unemployment, they will burn the cities down…but the sad truth is that a reaction like that could give those who created BHO the opportunity they’ve long wanted to declare a martial law decree that our military could not dismiss…It’s all by design and only until real Americans choose to make the appropriate ‘corrections’ will this be issued be properly addressed. We are under attack from within and there appears to be no representative party that will represent legal Americans…when the ‘correction’ begins, they will be dealt with first…and rightfully so.

  • Gymmer

    Many people are putting the total blame for Romney’s loss only on Romney. However, after observing vice-presidential candidate Ryan’s performance on the campaign trail he must also share a large portion of the blame. Holy cow, he even let Big mouth (insane) Biden out do him! Now he is just a shill for big corporations, WSJ and the Chambers of Commerce that want a continual supply of uneducated cheap labor from third world countries. an unending supply of replacement parts so to speak!

  • Rob

    After all the black hate the last few years, I am ready for it… let’s just bring it on and get it over with.

  • slash345

    Bye bye republican party.

    Won’t be involved in politics anymore until a party that represents me steps forward and makes unthinkably radical changes in this country.

    I don’t see that happening though in my lifetime so it looks like I’ll never vote again.

    **** you republicans.

  • david_d1

    Why do our representatives continue to abandon the middle class citizen. My Senator compares these lawbreaking illegals to anyone else who wants to come to the US. I told him as an Independent Senator, you are kissing Democratic a*s.

  • InvestMattA

    Paul Ryan is thus a fool. He has no future if he attempts to pull this crap. Rubio also is done. Amnesty of any kind ends the US as we know it. Ted Cruz we need you!!!

  • William Patrick Bower

    The good news is that this ends the republican party… We will have reason to start over.

    • anAmericanMom

      Nice save! A silver lining..

  • jnnrd54surrounded by libs

    I sure won’t give him another nickel to either. What a friggin disappointment. I have switched my party affiliation to Independent. What a stupid bunch of idiots.
    “If hard work and success are net with higher taxes and more government regulation and intrusion, while not working is rewarded with Food Stamps, WIC checks, Medicaid benefits, subsidized housing and free OBAMA PHONES,, you might live in a nation that was founded by GENIUSES but is run by IDIOTS”.

  • bigbiz2

    That dirty s o b better be careful..We dont need more people here period…

  • WhiteBoy65

    The many republicans who are on this post complaining about getting sold out will still in the end vote a straight republican ticket in 2014-2016. You’ll soften up and forget about this stuff and move on. It happens every election and today is no different.

    • Gymmer

      Voting for a quasi-Marxist Republican is still better than voting for an all out committed true blue Marxist- Democrat! It is better still to oust the quasi-Republican and elect a true blue conservative,

      • WhiteBoy65

        Coke or Pepsi…Hitler or Stalin..You’re part of the problem in the GOP…Keep holding your nose…

        • Gymmer

          Not so! I am not a registered Republican! Never have been never will be. I am also not a member of the Marxist Democratic party. Never have been never will be. That said I will still vote for a candidate who is not a Marxist Democrat. I will work, however, to make sure it is a solid “conservative”. You apparently will continue to let your non-vote default to the benefit of the Marxist Democrats.

    • maxonepercent

      I certainly won’t, millions of people like me sat out the last election because Romney was such a weak candidate. If this amnesty becomes law I am never voting again, there will be no point in doing so.

      • WhiteBoy65

        I voted third party last two general elections and have never looked back. It’s liberating not being led by the nose of either party..

    • Liliana Rawks

      Not me. I’ll do what I did last time — stay home.

  • Falconflight

    You know that the DemPervs lie, cheat, and steal…but the GOP is hardly trustworthy when it comes to protecting our rights. Only a few are statesmen, such as Senator Cruz and Congressman Amash.

  • Aryan_Pride

    they want a reconquista? i say not without a fight. have you all been to the firing range lately? voted in your local elections? gotten acquainted with your local militias? these are the tools that preserve liberty we are under attack.

    • Neoconhater

      Paranoid delusional tripe from a white supremacist!

    • Liliana Rawks

      Exactly. Ammo shortage is a little disconcerting.

      • AbidewithMe

        Police up your brass and reload.

  • drdebdrdeb

    Ryan and Rubio, two shooting stars of the RNC. You make me proud to no longer financially support the DNCish RNC. Let me tell you where I wish you would go..

    The TEA PARTY candidates shall win the next presidential election. We shall fight both parties and the IRS (if they are not gone by then)

  • No Mass Amnesty

    Go to numbersusa and sign the free anti-SHAMnesty petition and send the free faxes to your elected officials. Tell everyone you know to do the same.

    We need to let them know that they WILL be booted out next election if they collude with the open borders and cheap labor forces that are bound and determined to “fundamentally transform” this country.

  • Disqus

    Amnesty is a requirement for debt limit increase.
    While it would yield me a lot more commentary up votes if I’d say “deport them all”, the truth is those congress people don’t have a choice – they have to legalize the illegals – it’s a requirement, a demand from the creditors of this corporation we call U.S. — since we now have a negative birth rate here, and brand new birth certificates are collateral for the credit borrowing U.S. Corp needs, there is no other way around it – Every 10 years or so we’ll have amnesty.

    Why do you think Immigration was brought up at that Bernanke’s 3 hour long questioning marathon a few weeks ago? Because on those levels of leadership, they know the U.S. Corp doesn’t have any more collateral to keep borrowing. They have to legalize the illegals. The only solution to avoid this is a fundamental change in our monetary system.

    • maxonepercent

      Wow, excellent point!

  • sprdthewrd

    No Fence No NADA Nothing, Ryan is a nothing sounds like another RHINO.
    Time for a Conservative Party.
    I agree the only Pathway to Citizenship is LEGAL IMMIGRATION !!!!.

  • JDasien

    It’s obvious that there really is no “Democratic Party” nor “Republican Party”, just the left wing and the right wing of the same party. The big government screw the American people party. And by “big government party”, I mean the emerging political aristocracy that will stop at nothing in order to shackle the “American” people to the government trough so we can be more easily “managed”.

  • DaGeek

    So this way the Senate can decide which parts they like and disregard the rest, Paulie? With RINOs like you, who needs DemocRats? Fix the border FIRST, then a path to permanent residency, but NEVER a path to becoming one of eleven million new DemocRat voters!

  • esmea

    Ryan following Boehner’s strategy to a tee. Boehner has allowed his golfing buddy Obama to add trillions more to our debt, dropped the ball on installing Select Committee and special prosecutors to investigate Obama’s scandals, made secret deals to increase our debt ceiling and behind closed doors, has instructed the GOP to pass “immigration reform”. We no longer have any GOP leadership representing us. Instead, we have a shady, power-obsessed, corrupt Speaker whose only concern is keeping Obama happy and the RINO establishment intact. And Ryan’s cowardice is akin to treason. Both he and Rubio need to primaried when their terms are up so that we can begin the long-overdue clean-up of corrupt GOP quislings who sell their souls and our liberty.

  • John

    He wants to do it in a series of bills. What’s the matter with this guy? Is WI so far removed from the Southern border he can’t see where he’s making his mistake.
    Enforce the laws Congress passed and now refuses to enforce, build the fence we paid for, upgrade illegal entry to a criminal offense, not a civil infraction like it is now. Stop trying to fix something that isn’t broken, it needs to be re-visited and re-enforced.

  • drdebdrdeb

    Goodbye to the RNC and the DNC. Hello Tea Party candidates. We shall fight thwarts to our freedom to the end.
    This is NOT about politics. This IS about freedom. Middle class in the USA 27th in the world? Get RID of these criminals on both sides of the aisle!

  • whosetosay

    “Paul Ryan Hints at Immigration Timetable” …. and here’s a hint for you Paul, keep this up and you’ll soon be joining Rubio in the ‘up and coming’ category.

    “Our immigration system is broken”…. no it’s not. Enforcement is. Enough laws already, enforce the ones that we have.

    Good riddance Paul. The tax PAYERS have had enough. (pay attention the rest of you RINOs!)

    • whosetosay

      As an aside… what a coward Ryan is. Try to contact him on his website and you must live in his district or you are referred to a ‘look up your congress critter’ to complain. He, however, feels quite comfortable spouting his 2 cents and influencing decisions, on behalf of everyone, without reproach.

      Hey Paul- I HELP TO PAY YOUR SALARY. If you’re only responding to your constituents then STOP SPEAKING FOR ME.

      My apologies for the caps.

      • belleruin

        Go to his Facebook page and post there on any story that promotes what he is doing. He’s taking a hit on Facebook.

        • whosetosay

          Thank you. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving person.

          • Liliana Rawks

            Same thing happened to Rubio. He had over 60,000 responses to a post one day, all of them slamming him.

          • whosetosay

            I started contacting Rubio via email the minute he started down this path, his ‘auto responses’ were about how great the immigration thing was and it’s ‘GOOD for AMERIKA’, then no responses to my emails- proof positive that our Overlords only want to hear from us when we’re paying our taxes and licking their boots.

            It is high time to shine some light on these roaches that have been thriving (and breeding) on our tax dollars.

            Term limits and NO government benefits.

            Enough already.

          • Liliana Rawks

            Too bad you didn’t know they don’t read their email. They don’t read faxes either. Some of them read Facebook and when their phone lines are jammed ALL of them pay attention.

          • whosetosay

            At the end of the day, one day, they will experience normalcy.

  • Randy111

    When we have two traitors to vote for, It is mperatve we do not vote at all. A House of Representatives led by John Boehner, Paul Ryan, and Nancy Pelosi is not a House Of Representatives worth voting for. Certainly not a House of Representatives worth contributing campaign funds to.

    Paul Ryan, the “fiscal conservative”, is a status quo big spender. He wants to cut medicare. And he wants to cut Social Security. But that doesn’t mean he wants to cut oveall government spending.

    Ryan wants to spend borrowed money and our taxes to fund the NSA’s spying on the American people. He wants to grant amnesty to at least 10 million people who broke into our country (and allow tens of millions of their family members to join them–it’s the “Christian” thing to do, y/know”)–and raise federal and state spending several trillion dollars in the process.

    You know why the Amnesty process–which will actually be immediate–will officially take “fifteen years”? It’s an accounting trick. The Congressional Accounting Office gives estimates of the cost of legislation for ten years, and actual expenditures usually exceed the estimates. The Budget office will count the income of fines and “payment of back taxes” (there won’t be any back taxes, because records will show them paid-and refunded) in exchange for amnesty, but not the cost, because officially there aren’t many costs–until amnesty is complete in 2028–after Federal, State, and local government costs have gone up by trillion of dollars.

    But by then the Amnstied illegals and their families will be oh, perhaps 60,000,000 people and have “changed” the US forever in more than financial ways.

    The Amnesty crowd in Congress are like a Capitol full of hogs, and their snouts–including Pelosi, Boehner, Obama, (George 1, George 2, and Jeb Bush), Ryan, Schumer, McCain, Graham, and hundreds more–are so deep in the trough you can barely see their treasonous greedy eyes.

    And who’s pouring feed in their trough? La Raza and other groups looking to get a bigger share of US demographics and power through immigration, Conservative religious leaders looking for more “Christians” to cross the border and help them get abortion repealed, and “God’s government” enacted in the US, radcal leftist “Christians” who want government run like a liberal church pantry through benign socialism, and corporate billionaires looking for Cheap labor, and plenty of it through open borders.

    Obama’s centerpiece in his agenda for Changing America is Amnesty for Illegals, and looks like leaders of the Republican Party are getting ready to hand it to him with a smile and a host of “hosannas” his 5th year in office.
    Unless we, the Amercan People stop them. Go Numbers USA!!

  • http://ceegen.hubpages.com/ Pat Riote

    He’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing, as all politicians are. If they really cared about us, they wouldn’t be trying so hard to pacify people into a sleep with shiny toys, and plenty of benefits so we can have time to play with them instead of work.

    They want you fat and lazy, so resistance isn’t so fierce for them. You build them an empire, and guess what? Eventually it’ll be used against you. Power corrupts…

    Anyway, as strange as this sounds, the answer isn’t to fight back. That’s what they want you to do. No one will argue when they shoot resisters, but if they shoot a peaceful crowd? Well, then the U.N. can step in and we lose either way. This world is and has been moving towards global governance since humans started thinking.

    Why would anyone risk their soul for the sake of being the supreme leader of earth, is beyond me.

  • Longdrycreek- Texas Panhandle

    Ryan’s “rising star” has gone cold in orbit. Forget national public office, Ryan,
    because you are unable to read the mind of the folks along the Southern Border.
    Why not a crusade to enforce present Law. The only thing is broken is the lack of enforcement.

    • Van_The_Man

      Bingo! The current laws spell it all out–it’s refusal to enforce existing laws–that’s existing laws–that’s causing the whole problem.

  • http://www.facebook.com/imma.fubared Imma Fubared

    Just can’t leave this sucker alone can they. I am convinced we have Rhino’s in charge of the party and the conservatives are like kids in the back seat being ignored.

  • Tom

    I voted for Romney-Ryan, even had a yard sign. But now it appears Ryan is just like Christie and RUBIO who get played like a fiddle by Obama and all the other Democrats. PLEASE, find me a real Republican.

    • esmea

      Sens.Ted Cruz and Mike Lee for starters, Tom. More importantly, both identify as constitutional conservatives and not only talk the talk, but walk the walk.

      • Tom

        Good advice Esmea.

  • Bobnews

    Ryan and the rest of the cowardly lions in the Republican Party believe Mexican Democrats will be reachable if this illegal immigration problem is off the table. Unfortunately they fail to grasp the real problem which is Republicans stink at messaging and are considered by many to be the ultimate secret weapon the Democrats have. The Republicans are removing all doubt that they are inept with their illegal immigration mistake.

  • http://forumsforjustice.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3997&postcount=13 Forums4Justice

    Eff the Nuevo Republican Party and the people they hang out with-

    - THEY ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS
    Karl Rove, Jeb Bush, Koch brothers, CAIR, Fox News, Scott Walker, George W. Bush, Rand Paul, Reince Priebus, Rupert Murdoch, Michael Bloomberg, Sheldon Adelson, Paul Singer + the 14 Republican Amnesty Pukes who were paid off
    Along with: Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor, Rob Portman, Trey Gowdy
    American Action Forum President Douglas Holtz-Eakin
    American Action Network
    Americans for a Conservative Direction, led by former Gov. Haley Barbour
    American Conservative Union Chairman Al Cardenas
    Americans for Prosperity Foundation, the Koch brothers’ political group
    Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist
    Faith and Freedom Coalition – Ralph Reed
    U.S. Chamber of Commerce
    House Democrats: Zoe Lofgren, Xavier Becerra
    Congressional Black Hispanic Caucus
    Evangelicals, the Catholic Church needs the money, Sojourners, National Association of Evangelicals, the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, and the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference
    EVANGELICAL IMMIGRATION TABLE
    La Raz, MeCHA, in progress
    the unions, half of the members of the SEIU are illegal immigrants
    4 groups putting pressure on House GOP

    In an attempt to win Hispanic votes , the Top 1% is supporting Marco Rubio for 2016, while heavily promoting S.744, the Senate’s Immigration Reform Bill.
    Not to mention, their gaining an almost unlimited supply of cheap labor,
    while adding additional Payroll tax revenues (lest eyes turn back towards them).

    The problem is, it will come at the expense of, we, the people.

    more at link: http://forumsforjustice.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4038&postcount=1

  • NotKennedy

    Sorry to say, Mr. Ryan… your day came. Run along and make Wisconsin a better place. Relieve Governor Walker so he can do what you did not get done.
    Thanks.

  • neverfooled

    This entire discussion of amnesty for illegals stems from the same lie told over and over an over – that we need to reform our immigration laws – lies lies and treasonous lies.

    Our immigration system is not broken.

    The American people have spoken loud and clear by more than 3 to 1 – no amnesty – close the border.

    Vote anyone who supports this treason out on their ears.

    • Mountain Queen

      You said it just right and I agree. The system is not broken and if you look at the immigration website, you can see ALL the ways people can get in our country. We need to get rid of the illegals.

  • http://www.rongoulden.com/Literary.htm Ron

    It had better be FAIR to existing, law-abiding, tax-paying citizens.

  • JoeNJ8

    Get used to it. Washington has turned into a one-party club. Reps and Dems will be responsible for the end of the U. S. of A.

  • jim2

    October is perfect, if I don’t like the bill I can vote out some more losers in november Albano will go in nj because of gun control and lets see what officials want to destroy our job market and insure illegals with my taxpayer money.

  • drdebdrdeb

    Good riddance to the RNC, the DNC and the IRS. Hello Tea Party candidates. And don’t you astards d mn touch them again. We the middle class shall fight every thwart to our freedom.
    This is NOT about politics. This IS about freedom. Middle class in the USA 27th in the world? Get RID of these self-serving criminals on both sides of the aisle! And while you are at it, imprison this self-serving Marxist illegal president.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bob-Forsberg/100001387343371 Bob Forsberg

    …..and we’re returning them to their birthplace in October too?

  • Pronghorn

    The fix is in. Citizens have been stabbed in the back to reward lawbreaking foreigners.

  • Disgruntled2012

    So tentatively, in October, I might be dropping my republican registration, I guess…

    • Liliana Rawks

      Not before going to whatever Town Hall your rep plans on holding in August. Make sure you get a turn at the microphone and hold his or her feet to the fire.

  • insanitychili

    Reject, or yee shall be Ejected.

  • Disqus

    Again…

    Amnesty is a requirement for debt limit increase.
    While it would yield me a lot more commentary up votes if I’d say “deport them all”, the truth is those congress people don’t have a choice – they have to legalize the illegals – it’s a requirement, a demand from the creditors of this corporation we call U.S. — since we now have a negative birth rate here, and brand new birth certificates are collateral for the credit borrowing U.S. Corp needs, there is no other way around it – Every 10 years or so we’ll have amnesty.

    Why do you think Immigration was brought up at that Bernanke’s 3 hour long questioning marathon a few weeks ago? Because on those levels of leadership, they know the U.S. Corp doesn’t have any more collateral to keep borrowing. They have to legalize the illegals. The only solution to avoid this is a fundamental change in our monetary system.

    • drdebdrdeb

      We saw your same comment over and over and over. I wish you would quit littering up our discussion site.

      • Disqus

        I posted it twice. That’s not “over and over”.

    • whosetosay

      Or better still, we could force this U.S. Corp to go bankrupt, disinfect the place from the roaches and vermin that ‘rule’ us and get back to the good Ol’ US of A. Starve the Beast!

    • Liliana Rawks

      So, legalizing mainly low income workers is the answer? Somehow, I don’t think so. I think perhaps legalizing tech workers, entrepreneurs and others that can conceivably become part of the tax base is a lot better idea.

      • Disqus

        The creditors don’t care who is legalized. All they want is collateral in the form of Birth Certificates and SSNs.

        • Liliana Rawks

          Riiiiiiiight.

  • http://forumsforjustice.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3997&postcount=13 Forums4Justice

    STOP THE INVASION

    In 1987 there were 3200 Border Patrol agents
    thought to apprehend, at best, 1 out of every 7, illegal immigrant border-crossers

    Now, there are over 21,000 Border Patrol agents
    thought to apprehend 1 out of 3……

    VADER radar detected 7,333 border crossers during its Arizona missions.
    Border Patrol agents reported 410 apprehensions during that time.

    Since the 1986 Amnesty, over 28,000,000 illegal immigrants have been apprehended at our border.
    (97.84% of the Total FY2012 Apprehensions were at our Southwest border).

    Then Janet Napolitano has the mendacity to testify, in front of Congress, that, in addition:
    “of all the illegal immigrants, in our country, 40% are visa overstays.”

    We, the people, are sick and tired of seeing our country,
    being swarmed and overrun by illegal immigrants.

    more at link: http://forumsforjustice.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4045&postcount=1

  • Okeydoker

    Ryan is a traitor to America. Forget being prez scumbag. Go back to Mexico where they will appreciate you, jerkus.

  • joekenobe

    And the Republican leadership wonders why the Romney/Ryan (Rino/Rino) Ticket went down to defeat in 2012. Conservatives had a choice at the ballot box – bad or worse and they decided to stay home. Looks like worse won.

    • drdebdrdeb

      And that fine leadership did an even better job in 2008 with traitor McCain and Palin. I am a conservative and I am proud to no longer financially support the inept railroaded RNC RINO wimps.

      • joekenobe

        Agreed – not one dime!

        • drdebdrdeb

          Now when I get their unsolicited garbage I cut it up, mail it back in their self-addressed envelope. I also include a copy of the letter I sent them in January, 2013. I also print: You don’t get it-you don’t listen to voters. I am no longer a financial supporter of your RINO party. I have sent at least 8 of these responses.

  • go2gym

    VOTE NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • rancher

    Parasites from around the world are now flooding across. This govt has to be strung up. The treason against the American people is our death.

  • SGT Chemistry

    I support amnesty, but I have conditions that must be met beforehand. First, I get to forge at lest three passports, steal at least three identities, forge at lest three social security cards, commit perjury on at least five federal forms (ten if they involve oral s*x), and trespass on any federal installation whenever I want.

  • John Sheridan

    The only calendar events I’m looking forward to, is the one that allows me to vote against any and all RINOS, like RYAN! Enough with these people, I see little or no difference between the GOP leadership and crazy Nancy! NADA! NONE, ZERO, ZIP!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Randy-Hitt/100000038090218 Randy Hitt

      ALL of these phonies are 9/11 dirty, that is why they act like dictators and spy on everyone so they can prevent an uprising against their un-patriotic act of coup against our constitution..

  • god

    Muck Paul Ryan. He is pulling a RUBIO on us. I won’t support this guy if he pushes amnesty on the American people. This is an outrage. Get a clue. WE WILL NOT ACCEPT AMNESTY!

    Close the damn borders and enforce our current laws.

  • Mike Gilmer

    Its time to kick Ryan to the curb. Let him join the Democrats.

  • Alex1956

    Rep. Ryan, are you listening to the American people…
    We don’t want amnesty for illegal aliens. We want those here illegally deported humanely. We want the double border fence built, like yesterday. If a person is here illegally, he needs to apply and be invited or he must go home. We want and demand that our laws be enforced.
    I think if a person is caught illegally in the US, he should be forever prevented from appying for citizenship or permanent residency. Illegal activity must come with serious consequences to deter others.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Randy-Hitt/100000038090218 Randy Hitt

    In your dreams RINO BOY!

    The TEA Party is going to kill this fuc king INVADER AMNESTY bill!

  • Larry Launer

    Send this panderer to mexico , he isn’t an American , I hope the tea party or somebody runs against this POS ,

  • James Smith

    This is not the Paul Ryan that many of us respected. What happened?

    • Liliana Rawks

      Lobbyists.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Randy-Hitt/100000038090218 Randy Hitt

      You were duped, now you see clearer.

      So the question is WHO convinced you Ryan was respectable, Rush? Fox News?

  • http://forumsforjustice.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3997&postcount=13 Forums4Justice

    Join, we, the people, in holding the line …

    JUST SAY NO

    NO AMNESTY
    NO PROTECTED LEGAL STATUS
    NO REGISTERED PROVISIONAL IMMIGRANT

    we, the people, stand united against amnesty, protected legal status, or whatever else they choose to call it … this isn’t about political party, this isn’t about votes, and above all this isn’t about race, nationality, ethnicity, color, or religion … this is about protecting America, our sovereign nation, against an invasion by 10′s of millions of illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants who broke our laws when they crossed our border; or overstayed their visas. Then came document fraud, identity theft, and illegal employment. We are a nation of laws; we do not reward those who wantonly break our laws. We, the people, want our existing federal laws against illegal immigration enforced … nothing more, nothing less … it’s as simple as that … it really is…..

    citizenship is the highest honor our country can bestow,
    reserved for those who follow the rules and wait in line

    more at link: http://forumsforjustice.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4012&postcount=25

  • Lippenheimer

    This “rising star” is a dud. The Republican base does not WANT immigration reform, let alone “comprehensive” (always always always a bad word to see). Just enforce the laws on the books. Problem solved! Start working for *us* for a change. This is not a high priority issue for us. You guys should be devoting your energy, and spending your political capital, on killing ObamaCare, first & foremost, and on issues that impact *our* lives, not those of the illegals. Simply put, it is Congress that needs reform, not existing immigration policy.

  • David Kachel

    When is the GOP going to expel these RINOs from the party? Or is the entire party now just a branch of the democrats?

  • Liliana Rawks

    Started out so good. . .border security, interior enforcement. Then he had to muck it up with legalization. There should be ZERO tolerance in the House for any pathway. Folks, please make it a point to show up at your reps townhall meetings in August. The illegals will be there. . .you can count on that.

  • An_Angry_American

    Rino traitor.

    And we wonder why Conservatives are disillusioned with the Republican party (Romnney/Ryan was the best they could summon).

    Time for a Conservative party, one with which I can vote for with a good conscious.

  • KEN

    rino

  • debob9046

    Falling star Ryan voted for the NSA police state, that trumps all else. No credibility in my eyes, his lips are moving, but I’m not listening.

  • rancher

    You know when this many ‘R’ congressmen turn their backs on the American people they are choosing the side of the elite global cabal that is orchestrating this attack on our sovereign nation. They want a position in the new world order and we can fend for ourselves as they tax us to death and give our cities to invading illiterate violent peasants.

  • LampChairDeskMonitor

    I used to respect and admire Paul Ryan as he was the first politician in Washington to seriously be concerned for millennials such as myself (not with handouts, but with reforming entitlements).

    Now a year later, just another RINO sellout. Not only do I hope he never appears on another presidential ticket again, I hope he loses his house seat.

    • rancher

      They can talk the good talk but when they are forced to represent the tax payer who enriched and empowered they show who they really are.

  • Hafthor Gunnarsson

    NO AMNESTY or NO LEGALIZATION of illegal aliens living in the United States. We need our Federal Government to start enforcing our immigration laws. Deport all illegal aliens, secure the border and fine anyone who hires an illegal alien.

  • blueday

    This is why I do not want it voted on period! Kill the bills.

    Per http://conservativebyte.com/2013/07/menendez-conference-will-get-amnesty-past-house-gop/

    “Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ), a member of the Senate’s “Gang of
    Eight,” told liberal activists at the Center for American Progress (CAP)
    on Wednesday how the Democrats plans to enact amnesty for the 11
    million illegal immigrants: Get the House to pass whatever immigration
    bills it likes, then go to “conference” with the Senate bill.

    “Get us to a conference,” Menendez pleaded with the liberal
    activists, according to Slate’s Dave Weigel. “In a conference, we can
    negotiate the notion of bringing all those bills together and get to
    common ground.””

    • belleruin

      Excellent point! Get it to conference and shove the Gang of Eight’s bill down American throats.

    • Liliana Rawks

      This is how obamacare was born. Exact same thing.

  • mardec

    “… legislation that would provide undocumented immigrants with
    “probationary” visas while they waited a minimum of 15 years to attain
    citizenship.”

    How is this different than granting a pardon? How many actually care one way or another if they become citizens? All they want is to be able to stay here legally and this gives them that right. What benefit would they gain by becoming a citizen that they don’t have now? They probably get more benefits now than if they become citizens. The only benefit I can think of is the vote. But I’m sure most do that anyway and they never get called on it. All they need do is sign up.

  • jay

    freaking sell outs. The republican party is done…. damn loosers, do you NOT hear your constituents…do you not hear us? hello say no, they broke our laws they are criminals period. DO NOT do this, you will regret it, we willl vote you out of the house, if you are not going to use what you have which is the majority why have it…screw you ryan. Damn i am glad he lost.

    • AbidewithMe

      They hear us – they just don’t CARE what we say. Lawyers!

  • exbobbie

    Bringing about immigration reform with separate bills might work, IF, and only IF, the first bill to be implemented is the bill to secure the border, and only after the border is proven to be secure, can the other bills be implemented.

    The interior enforcement bill must include E-Verify and severe penalties for employers who ignore it.

    The bill for legal immigration should include sections of our present immigration laws i,e, immigrants cannot have jobs that Americans can do, or want. Immigrants cannot receive any form of welfare, or be allowed to vote, prior to becoming American citizens, attempting to apply prior will result in immediate deportation. Immigrants must be able to speak, read and write the English language before being allowed to become citizens. All of these laws were applicable to me when I immigrated to the U.S. and became a citizen, if they are not still in our immigration laws, then they should be re-introduced or be part of the new bill.

    • Liliana Rawks

      I vehemently disagree. E-Verify MUST come first. It removes the incentive to come to this country and it will force those here to self deport.

    • whosetosay

      “All of these laws were applicable to me when I immigrated to the U.S. and became a citizen”

      Precisely! No new laws, period.

      The existing laws have not changed, only the Dems and RINOs desperation for votes.

      Enforcing laws is ‘so ugly’, handing out ‘free stuff’ at the expense of tax PAYERS feels SO good to these power hungry freaks.

    • HappyG

      We’ve had ‘severe penalties for employers’ since 1986…What we lack is enforcement.

      • exbobbie

        Ain’t that the truth!!.

  • Liliana Rawks

    One of the things nobody asks these guys is if they are going to be putting back into law everything the Senate took out. They removed all of the protections for American workers and taxpayers from current law. Will they return the “public charge” rule? The Senate struck it.

  • Tipi Rick

    IS THERE GOING TO BE A REAL FENCE OR NOT? We are still owed 700 miles from the last law and if it’s not immediately built notwithstanding any other laws (environmental or HHS appropriateness b.s.) prior to any green cards or paths to citizenship then fugidda about it! We will primary every GOP incumbent that doesn’t understand the principle: Fence FIRST, then path, no exceptions.

  • insectg

    Let a bunch of illegal aliens…criminals who broke the law and cheated and trespassed while saying f*ck you to everyone else that waited in line and took the citizenship test – let’s call it amnesty because most American’s are too stupid to question what that means. Republicans and Democrats should be ashamed of themselves for violating the laws that govern this land.

  • levotb

    RINO Ryan “a rising star”? You mean, like Rubio?

  • Brian Wilson

    Paul Ryan is a member of the House of REPRESENTATIVES. Let me ask you, Democrat or Republican: How many of your representatives scheduled town hall meetings to specifically ask your opinion of what you wanted in an immigration bill? Until they do, this will never be a government of the people, by the people, and for the people – it will be a government that serves primarily the political class.

    • Liliana Rawks

      Supposedly, most of them will be holding them, which is why they’ve put off immigration until after the recess. We better show up. . .you KNOW illegals will be there. We must make our voices heard. We MUST remind them that they are all up for re-election in 2014 and those illegals can’t help them at the polls.

  • http://www.markgwoodworth.com/ Mark Woodworth, Ph.D.

    The Republicans are destroying themselves. RINOS have stolen the party and will destroy any viable challenge to progressive idiocracy.

  • Guest

    STOP VOTING FOR RINOS! If the choice is between a Democrat and a RINO, DON’T VOTE!

    If every house and senate seat turns blue, what difference does it make if the GOP is going to constantly fold anyway? All the laws the Democrap government passes will be null and void when the inevitable new government forms anyway following the inevitable civil war.

    • Liliana Rawks

      Exactly why I sat out the last election. I was one of the 3 million Republicans that sat it out. Next time I’ll be one of the millions of independents (quit the party after the election) that sits it out if they give us another Rino.

  • Fakir Smith

    He’s a puppet. If he wasn’t, he wouldn’t have gotten elected. Wonder what the NSA has on him??? Bilderberg probably promised him a suite in one of the bunkers when it all hits the fan. Because it is going to hit the fan.

  • An_Angry_American

    Ryan, Rubio, Christie- all GOP sellouts supported by the party as ‘Stars’. What unmitigated B.S.
    Kick the stupid party to the curb along with the Damnocrats.

    The country is circling the drain, and the best the Republicans can do is to try to kill it faster.

  • JoetheFilmmaker

    Weren’t we all force fed Paul Ryan in the last election, and didn’t we lose?

    If it wasn’t obvious before, it should be clearly obvious by now. The GOP is finished. There’s going to be a merge after Amnesty.

    And when most Republican members in most states don’t have any say in the candidates, then how are we ever going to break up this National Socialist American Workers’ Party operating like RINO’s in bed with Leninists.

  • jncarlos007

    I am so tired of the guys I think are on our team going over to the other side while their side just keeps getting wackier.
    For once I would like to see someone surprise me the other way

    • nightsong

      Congress seems to think they HAVE to cross the isle and they HAVE to negotiate with every item put forth by opposition. And yes it has become just that, opposition. They each need to know they can stand their ground, that is why we elected them to begin with. We did not elect people to be wishy washy or give in to threats or anything else. If they are going to be elected for a reason, they need to fulfill their status as an electee. Otherwise who needs them, we will have to go in there ourselves or find someone who can stand their ground up against tyranny.

  • mar999

    Probationary amnesty for illegal aliens is still amnesty regardless of what you call it. Do this and this independent voter will close his wallet and stay home next November! Understand Mr. Ryan?

  • LampChairDeskMonitor

    Someone should tell McCain and Ryan just because Obama beat you in an election DOES NOT mean you have to bow to him. He won on voter ignorance not true merit. He’s a FAKE; the Lance Armstrong of politics.

    I guess Sarah Palin has bigger balls than both.

    • JoJoTexas

      McCain, Ryan, Boehner, McConnell and the overwhelming majority of RINO Repubs are scared $h*tless of Obama. I have never seen a bigger bunch of corrupt wimps. Sessions, Cruz, Lee and a small group of others are the only real men in Rep Non-Party…which will disappear after the next election. Obama for 8 years, Hillary for 8 years…and the RINOs sit around with their thumbs up the fat a$$es doing nothing to stop the march to Marxism.

  • mike1458

    I looked at buying a convenience store, my banker told me I couldn’t compete against someone who just got off the boat, as they would get a guaranteed govt. loan at 0% interest.

    Why should they get privileged treatment over someone who’s family has been here for generations, served and sacrificed for America?

    I have asked this question to Ryan and Rubio – still waiting on an answer

    • rancher

      The American tax payer is being forced to adopt all of the 3rd world weather in occupation forces flooding in or sending aide which the despotic leaders steal. We have no representation and it is on purpose. We are hung out to dry by our own treasonous leaders. I have had to move my family many times due to squatters destroying the neighborhoods and I have never been told that anything would ever be done about it.. Instead, I am told that I am a raaaaacist.

  • http://www.facebook.com/biffy.dakraker Biffy Dakraker

    Good! As long as we get these rats’ vote on record before 2014!

  • TexBill

    “and a rising star within the Republican Party” Paul Ryan??????

    He and the other RINO’s are falling stars. There’s also talk that the House leadership won’t include defunding the Affordable Care Act.in any CR or debt limit bill. If they don’t, we should rename it OBoehnerCare.

    I will never again give any money to the Republican party or committees…just individual candidates who aren’t DemoLight. i would like to see the Republican Party go out-of-business and a new Conservative Party take its place.

  • Tomas Cruz

    I wonder if Obama’s minions have pictures of these fools with hookers or worse for them to sell out America as often as they do. Could it simply be they’re just liars, sellouts, scum and douche bags?

    • rancher

      Liars, sellouts, scum and douche bags who get rich off the tax payer and tell us to bend over while they shaft us again and again.

  • RightCowLeftCoast

    As a young Filipino American U.S. citizen let me say that I do not support rewarding those who have violated the sovereignty of the U.S., and have broken the law. If my family can immigrate from across the Pacific Ocean through legal means, many serving in the U.S. armed forces, and become naturalized, so can anyone else, so can everyone else who wants the honor of being an American. Border security, and law enforcement first!
    I agree that the current system needs reform, and the legal process is difficult, but repairing it should not include rewarding illegal aliens. By doing so it serves as a slap in the face of all those who went throught the effort to abide by our immigration laws.

    • drdebdrdeb

      You posted a great comment. I hope you save it and post it over and over on the blogs.

    • HappyG

      Thank you for respecting our nation’s path to entry…Only those who do so should ever be allowed to remain…

    • Liliana Rawks

      We need to hear from more legal immigrants. I image millions of them feel like this is a slap in the face.

  • jrford

    I say shelve the discussions and voting on all of this until Obama is out of office.

    Never compromise with liberals, they never keep their word and Obama is the perfect example of a liberal not keeping their word.

  • drdebdrdeb

    The USA middle class, 27th in the world in wealth, are those of us who work and pay our taxes. The rulers in both parties (as well as the evil undocumented Prez and all of his bureaucrats) have stolen our freedom. Yet we pay for all of their corruption. We pay taxes with NO representation. It is TIME to take back our country.

    • HappyG

      Yep. Last time we were disrespected like this, we made then understand…It’s time we do so again…at our time of choosing…

      • drdebdrdeb

        I SO SO agree with you.
        Be Happy, Happy G
        Life IS good

    • Liliana Rawks

      Yeah, all 52 percent of us. Don’t know about you but I’m getting tired. Really, really tired.

      • drdebdrdeb

        Yes Liliana, I am tired of this nonsense. We MUST take our country back before they beat us down so much that the fight is gone from within.

      • drdebdrdeb

        Hang in there and pray for strength. We The People Shall Overcome.

  • kiteman

    Ryan is sounding more like a Democrat every day (he’s joining many other Republicans). Why can’t anybody in Washington DC (Democrat or Republican) understand these illegals are law breakers, they shouldn’t get anything but a one way ticket out of our country.

  • TilamookChee

    VOTE NO on Giving Criminals a Free Lunch!

  • unkymikey

    i’m so baffled by the tin ears of these so-called conservatives … despite absolutely no empirical evidence to support legislation on amnesty … and despite plenty to the contrary … another rino decides to come out of the closet …i’m done mr. ryan, and since i’ve got more support for my position … that makes u toast on a national level … so, moving on, tool.

  • Gorges Walker

    Why don’t we have billboards that say “Illegal? Leave or face arrest!”?
    Our representatives are failing US!

    • rancher

      They are failing us, they know it and they could not care less.

    • drdebdrdeb

      Looks like the Brits did something right. And to think, we fled here to escape their tyranny.

      • Gorges Walker

        We did. Two different situations. We elect these folks to take care of our interests. And they are not!

        • drdebdrdeb

          You are so correct, Georges. Part of the problem, in my opinion is the high financial threshold required in our country to run for office. They sell their souls to special interests. Take the Aman sp? Amendment in the House, for example. It was defeated and thus our elected representatives did not vote down the NSA’s ability to snoop on us. My representative is a conservative yet he voted no. The amendment was defeated and now we learn of the campaign contributions by security interests.

  • been there

    ryan…you are out of your mind and i/we will never support you to grant citizenship to all the illegals now in the country before border security…are you trying to commit suicide for the anglo race…you have got to be out of your mind and do not understand what is at stake…will try to defeat your efforts at every turn…

    • drdebdrdeb

      Join me as we put our money where our mouth is. Defeat all RNC RINOS.

  • TilamookChee

    Why should hardworking American taxpayers pay companies $3000 of taxpayer $$$ each time they hire an illegal aliens over a U.S. Citizen?
    Call your Congressmen/Women and tell them to Just Say NO, to this attack on the middle classs.
    Enough is F’N Enough!

  • HappyG

    While I’m totally against adding any new citizens to our country, or workers for that matter, it seems to me that if anyone should be considered for work status it should be those who remained in their country of origin and respected our laws…Our elected “leaders”, for some odd reason, think we should reward those whose first act was to disrespect our nation’s laws…Sounds like a very bad precedent to me…

    • AbidewithMe

      They’re mostly “lawyers” pond scum at best. Have you ever met a lawyer who had any respect for the law or the Constitution?

  • teddie77

    I still want to hear them address what they’re going to do about the 47% of illegals who are here on expired visas . Waiting, waiting, waiting and not a word. No word of enforcing the existing laws. All’s they do is pander

  • Beaux Weevil

    I guess Ryan wants to ensure being on a losing national ticket was the high point of his political career.

  • Karl Hayman

    STOP trying to sell us something we don’t want! Send the ILLEGALS home!

    • teddie77

      Even France has mobile billboards announcing: illegals go home or face arrest.

  • EATitCNN

    WHERE YOU AT BOEHNER??? YOU FILTHY SLIME BALL I KNEW YOU’D BRING IT UP FOR A VOTE! COWARD!

  • R90

    Congress has just cheapen immigration. To bad for all the ones who came here LEGALLY.

  • nomonkeydreams

    Rising Star? More like “Rising Stench”!

  • drdebdrdeb

    FU to the DNC and to the RINO RNC. I shall not submit to taxation without representation!

  • Karl Hayman

    KILL THE BILL!

  • Dale

    He was a terrible choice for Vice President and he is now showing his true RINO colors thinking he has to do anything about immigration.at this time.You are all being played and you are believing the lies that are told over and over.

    Our economy, jobs, culture are much more in need of “fixing” than the illegal alien problem which it should be called instead of immigration reform.
    Make this administration follow the laws already on the books, secure the border and then after a period of time deal with the illegals in the country. Give work visa’s to those that want them so they do not have to sneak in the country but do not do this just because the opposition party wants you to d it.

  • wheninthecourse

    FU RHINO RYAN. NEVER VOTING FOR A REPUKELICAN AGAIN

  • rancher

    These smug punks in silk ties should have to live among us and send their children to the schools we send ours. They would shake like leaves the first time they had to deal with a barbarian from mx or Arabia.

  • Liliana Rawks

    300 people showed up to his townhall meeting. Most of them were immigration activists and illegals. What do you expect him to think????? Americans are too good to show up at a Townhall meeting? Hell no, he thinks we don’t care. The same will happen when YOUR rep holds an August town hall if you don’t show up and speak up!

    • rancher

      He knows. He is pandering and doesn’t care what we say.

  • TheRealTruth

    Anything bi-lingual is a slap in the teeth to any American citizen.

  • zipperhead

    Third party time.

  • Amberteka

    As best as I can tell from the US Census Report..there are less than 500 Registered Hispanic Voters living in Wisconsin. The Listening Session….which was carefully Rebranded as a “Town Hall Meeting” by Poltico’s ever imaginative sueng Min Kim……and also in the Far Far Left Milwakee Sentenil. The Racine Papers..where the Meeting was held…was very specific..It was a Listening Session for Hispanics..In Spanish and English.
    Seve King was attacked by both Ryan and the “guests:”
    I agree with a comment made by a blogger in RedState Today. Plumey said in regards to Karl Rove and his machinations…with the GOP Elites…
    I fell like something big is going on……something “they” know about and we don’t. And that we are Pawns…and some honest people like Rep.Steve king…he is also a pawn. And whatever is going on..it is far too above the minds of the Stupids in Fly Over land for us…………..to do anything but slavishly follow people who lie and lie an dlie and a media which covers for them lies for them…
    You know..”Something is happening, but you don’t know what it is, do Mr. Jones.?” Bob Dylan.
    Does anyone out there know…what was the purpose of this visit? He did not go home. His constituents..booed him last year when he was killing Medicare..and booed him over letting Obamacare pass…He had to have a police escort to his car after one of his Real Town Hall Meeings.
    the media and Poltico agreed to ‘fib’ it off as a Town Hall Meeting? which is was not..it was not advertised that way..and English speaker Wisconsin folks were clearly NOT invited.

  • teddie77

    The thing is, is that they’ll do another law and ignor it. 47% of illegals are expired visas. They let them in, like the Boston bombers & we get all emotional instead of holding these gov tyrants feet to the fire.
    I am so sick of them & their superiority crap

  • JohnnySunshine

    Perhaps the first immigration bill passed by the House should state that English is the official language of the United States. If it doesn’t pass the Senate and get signed into law by the President (and not subject to change by a subsequent Executive Order), no other immigration legislation would follow from the House.

    • Liliana Rawks

      Oh, it’ll pass the senate alright. They’ll gut it and put the Senate immigration bill in its place, just like they did with obamacare. PLEASE don’t advocate the house putting forth ANYTHING. Seriously, if you don’t know how the system works, just keep quiet.

    • Kevin Pearson

      Puertro Ricans are US Citizens too and English is not their native language.

      I know that low-IQ morons like you would love to make English the official language, because you would interpret that as an excuse to incarcerate a high school French teacher because she doesn’t speak English in class.

      The Founders were so angry with the British, they almost made German the official language.

  • P3warrior

    Ryan is another POS Rino, Reagan was betrayed
    on the fence why would this be any different this
    time? Bombard Ryan and Boehner w/ calls and
    emails. No bill at all on this issue. Focus
    on defunding dismantling Ocare, IRS, fix economy.
    Folks it’s time to Rise Up against GOP, they
    are not listening to us. Time for new Freedom Party.

  • GiveTheWookieACookie

    Time to flood these bastards’ email accounts who are think they represent illegals instead of citizens.

  • robertmccabe

    To think I had all the respect in the world for this guy.

  • necod

    Coward.

  • Doug W

    He will have ended any chance he had for a nationwide office. Any amnesty passed by republicans will turn their base against them in the 2014 election. Republicans will once again destroy their hopes for taking the senate.

  • Momiac

    Ryan, get lost. Get a hernia lifting those weights. Sell-out.

  • M_J_S

    Pass this bill pal, and good luck collecting taxes from me and any other American that believes in the rule of law.

    WE WILL NOT COMPLY A-HOLE!

  • Janice Gammill

    Paul Ryan has just gone Rubio on this country! I am so sick of being disappointed by these opportunists! We must let them know the answer is not just NO but HELL NO!

  • ches31

    My god can anyone help???

    • whosetosay

      We can all help ourselves…. stop funding this farce. Term limits, no laws that don’t apply to ‘them’….. You pass a law for us plebes, you live by it too….. yes that means you John Kerry with your yacht and Charlie Rangel, oh never mind.

    • An_Angry_American

      Ted Cruz can’t do it by his lonesome…

      • whosetosay

        Amen…. let’s get busy folks.

    • liberaltraitors

      Cruz, Lee and Paul are loyal. Amash in the House, Ted Poe probably is.

      Other than that, we are going to have to fight them.

      • Liliana Rawks

        Paul? For God’s sake, he’s as bad as the rest of them! You left out Grassley

        • liberaltraitors

          I believe Paul is loyal. I think he’s playing a game so they will trust him. Amash has taken his (Paul’s) father’s role, but as a Senator, Rand Paul has to walk a fine line, or have the Establishment pukes stonewall him, undercut him and fund challengers. Time will tell. I see what everyone sees, but he cannot be his father in the Senate. Different game.
          Grassley … meh. He’s been there far too long for my taste.

          • liberaltraitors

            And I left out Labrador, really interested in his future.

  • DrDean

    Ryan, Rubio, and other GOP “leaders” are spending a massive amount of time, energy and our money elevating the wants and needs of tens of millions of citizens of foreign nations living here illegally, and tens of millions more of their relatives back in their homelands over the best interests of American citizens.

    The big question is why? They *aren’t* going to secure the borders this time anymore than they did all the other times they “promised” they would – and there is literally nothing in the Rubio-Schumer bill for internal security.

    No, what “immigration reform” is all about is power – pure political power. What they call the “path to citizenship” is the path to tens of millions of artificially-created votes. Votes that Schumer-Obama and the GOP have struck deal on splitting.

    Ask yourself, what’s in the bill for GOP politicians that they would risk PO’ing so many in their base? Power – immigration reform will stuff America’s ballot boxes with 15M to 28M votes created by a corrupt political process.

    You know there is some deal between Schumer and the GOP “leadership”. It’s looking more and more like Schumer conned them into believing he will grant them a slice of the Democrat-owned “Latino vote” that will allow the GOP leadership to shift-left, connive with the Dems to split power, and ignore their “conservative” base – who are the only thing standing in the way of what will effectively become an elected tyranny.

    .

  • HappyG

    These pols need to get out of the DC loop and visit the rest of the country. They seem to be under the impression that we need 20 million low skilled illegals working in our country at a time when legal US citizens can’t find work, or watch as their children languish in big box stores trying to pay their student loans and rent…As far as I’m concerned all contact with DC and the media that spreads their doublespeak should be discontinued until we can get an administration that understands what “Rule of Law” means…and is willing to enforce it.
    McCain, as well as Graham are bi-polar types who swing 180 degrees from day to day…Get out of DC and maybe you’ll understand what the rest of us understand…DC is broken beyond repair…and the only thing keeping it from extinction is the media types who pimp the DC diatribe…Take a vacation and come visit real Americans…it will do you good. And bring your earplugs…

  • freepetta

    Amnesty to illegals will be the death of the Republican Party, not only will they lose American voters, but the illegals overwhelming vote for Dems.
    Anybody read about the 12 or 13 illegals that raped a young girl? Now there are lib stories that she wanted it? Excuse me, a very minor child is not responsible for making these kinds of decisions, but adults are.

    • Alex1956

      Ryan’s fast becoming a match for that other paragon of intellectual wonderment, Nancy Pelosi also known as “The Birdbrain from Alacatraz”!

  • mepatri3

    We don’t care Ryan. Congress has become irrelevant. It does nothing, says nothing, hears nothing, and doesn’t give on iota about the American people. Congress has bowed down and licked Obama’s jackboots. The American people can no longer count on your “narrow” votes that do nothing to save liberty, or protect the people. You’re nothing but a lap dog for the Administration, and you’re an enemy of the people. You and your gang on the Hill are traitors to the USA.

    • MeJane

      Apparently Congress feels that We The People are irrelevant, only illegals (who will never vote for them) seem to be revelent to them, the way they ignore us on all issues but this one especially.

  • CI Anderson

    Terrorist alert!!! Paul Ryan is a terrorist, as is Obama, Holder, Napalitano, Mueller

  • GoneApe

    Scum, sellout, paid off crooks.

  • Dunnyveg

    The only good thing to come out of this will be an end to the Republican Party. It’s high time Americans had a party that represented OUR interests.

  • Liliana Rawks

    “We’re going to vote on a bill to legalize people who are undocumented.”

    He actually SAID this.

  • SeattleOne

    Cheered a friends advance to official US citizenship only to find out it was to become eligible for lifelong Social Security payments when he returns home. Very disappointing.
    What are we really talking about in offering citizenship?

  • Che G Strada

    A shill for the open borders crowd. lAURA iNGHRAM IS A SINGLE mOTHER

  • iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

    Get the illegals out.

  • Mr. Chaotic Attractor

    Republican = Democrat

    They feed from the same trough

  • Dale

    I just don’t understand why they keep calling dealing with “illegal aliens in our country” immigrants and this economy and culture destroying plan of theirs “immigration reform” when it is not.

    • historyguy48

      Because it makes the brain dead zombies feel better.
      I wonder how good those zombies will feel when they destroy whats left of the American job market?

      • Liliana Rawks

        More important, how will they feel when they destroy American culture?

        • historyguy48

          More important yet is how will you feel when they destroy the middle class because that is what this is really all about.

  • az

    The house of cards is starting to fall, better get ready people, 1 to 2 years max.

  • borntobePolitical

    So now we know that Romney & Ryan would have been Democrat lite. This is the recipe for loss after loss for the GOP. We need a new party with a backbone.

    • historyguy48

      Good luck with that one. They own the media and they control the ballot box. That leaves only one way for the new party to gain power.

      • An_Angry_American

        What was Chairman Mao’s saying again?

        • historyguy48

          His little Red Book is full of sayings. Which one in particular?

          • An_Angry_American

            “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”

          • historyguy48

            That saying usually shortened to a more accurate “power grows out of the barrel of a gun” has been used probably since the advent of the flintlock when said guns became more reliable,
            The reason is simple. It’s true.

      • borntobePolitical

        I’m not sure what you are saying.

        • historyguy48

          I’m saying that there is no way to peaceably correct this. They staged a coup last November and the progressives now run this country. They control the Federal government, most state governments, the entire election process for Federal elections although by 2014 that control will extend throughout this country for all elections. The list goes on and on.
          Is that clear enough?

          Progressive is merely the term they use to hide what they really are from the masses.

          • Liliana Rawks

            The “C” word.

          • borntobePolitical

            Loud and clear amigo.

  • An_Angry_American

    He is a RAT, a traitor to the country, the Founding Fathers, the Constitution , and to all those that work hard to become Americans LEGALLY!
    GoToHel l, Ryan.

  • BC

    Ryan todayi decided that there is no lesser evil you are both the same GOP and DC. Shame on you Ryan

  • billiam

    This Alfred E Newman wanna be is going to destroy the GOP and impose another monstrosity on us ala Obama Care.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pf-Wag/100002575167071 Pf Wag

    Its what they aren’t telling you that is important. See

    THE DARK SIDE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION

    Google it.

  • rank

    I guess we Conservatives have two choices….. Stay Home, and let the Democrats win. Or, Vote Democrat to make certain they win. Why would we accept any candidate that is less than perfection? Just think how great the Conservative ideals have played out when the Democrats have complete control. Yes sir, let’s not give any candidate a chance unless that candidate is 100% perfect. Why would we want to want to win a piece of the pie, when we can sit back and let the Liberals have the whole pie. Everything is almost perfect now with Obama…. right?/S

  • Salvador_Chromo

    He is a novel idea, let’s enforce the law on the books regarding sending anyone found here illegal back to their country of origin. Let’s tighten our border and give law enforcement the tool needed to curtail the influx in the future.

  • Rosa Dure

    Paul Ryan, another RINO.

  • Dannie

    I’ve voted for the Republicans exclusively over the past 45 years. But if they come up with an amesty plan…..even though I would never vote for a Democrat….I won’t vote for a Republican either; I just won’t vote in a national election again….ever!

    • liberaltraitors

      Vote Libertarian. The Republipukes are as bad as the Democrats. Traitors.

  • quick_quip

    Sellout in the making. Bend over and stay tuned.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/ConcernedONETOO/featured ConcernedOne

    @sshole Ryan You are NOT upholding the Rule of Law and the US Constitution, which you were SWORN to do. Lawbreakers DON’T get rewarded – they get DEPORTED!!

    HR140
    Secure The Border (uh, years ago)
    Punish Employers that hire illegal labor

  • matism

    THIS is the swill the GOP nominated as their candidate for Vice President last year. After nominating the Chimp in Chief without the tan as their candidate for President. The Democrats and the Republicans are nothing more than opposite ends of the same steaming turd. The only difference is whose cronies get to slop at the government trough when THEY are in charge.

  • SurfinUSA

    Finish the dam* fence. Then come to talk to us about something that is not comprehensive and doesn’t provide a pathway to citizenship OTHER THAN CURRENT IMMIGRATION LAW. Follow the law. Then you might earn our respect.

  • liberaltraitors

    Paul Ryan can go to hell … along with Rubio. This is the end of this nation.

    • Guest

      You could always move to an assured utopia for a teaKlown…..North Korea.

      • liberaltraitors

        You can go to hell with them, traitor.

  • miketroup

    I actually supported this louse during the Presidential election. No more. Either the Tea Party takes back the Republican Party or they form the Constitutional Party, but SOMETHING has to change, because the GOP is DEAD TO ME!

  • moneymoneyfurlough

    No amnesty. Kick out all illegals, or no deal. All illegals are trespassers. Tell them go to the back of the line, do it the right way…. or else.

    • Miles to Code

      Why don’t we just adopt Mexico’s policy on dealing with their illegal immigrants? Or would that be too cruel to these poor criminals?

  • dcnj

    s.744 may be the final nail in the coffin. How we choose to deal with these cowards is up to us…

    “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

    There are no “stars” in Government. They are all pigs at this point.

  • Blade_Runner_1776

    As I posted about Rubio and his nonsense about amnesty, “Rubio, I think you should NOT push emigration AMNESTY, it is a non issue. What do you think of Benghazi? What do you think of the IRS abuses? What do you think of “Fast & Furious”? Stop following the liberal trap!!
    The Ephialtes Establishment in the Republican Party!
    If the GOP continues to listen to Karl Rove and doesn’t wake up, they’ll be history 2014!
    Tea Party UNITE!!!
    http://www.redstate.com/2013/07/26/the-ephialtes-establishment-in-the-republican-party/

  • Katepatate

    Ryan has drunk the Washington D.C. Kool-Aid. We are lost if the people we send to serve us don’t even listen to us.

    • Buzz Swanson

      It’s hard to believe these GOP clowns are this stupid.

  • notguilty

    ryan is a nothing

  • DFWSteelerFan

    Miketroup, sadly I did too. I am totally done with him along with Rubio. GOP is dead to me as well. Freaking RINOs!

  • Sigint

    ‘Interior enforcement bill’ sounds a lot like a police statectyranny bill to me. The illegals will get all the benefits and the citizens will get all the enforcement……
    And the bills.

    • Liliana Rawks

      Interior enforcement includes EVerify. Come on, if you don’t know what something is, don’t GUESS. . .go research it.

      • Sigint

        Sorry, interiormenforcement involves inside the country checkpoints stopping legal citizens and the fine print legalizing gang members and criminals. Interior security in NOT ONLY e-verify.

        • Liliana Rawks

          I did’t say it was ONLY Everify. I said it “includes” EVerify. READ before responding, k?

  • Can Do Math

    Letting emotional arguments and a contrived morality eclipse rational decision making and analysis results in crap policy like rewarding people who break the law

  • david58

    Whatever Ryan is behind when it comes to immigration you better be VERY suspicious of! He’s an open borders libertarian. He thinks we need more legal immigration. Pay VERY close attention and get ready to call your congressman.

  • CoryLE

    There are a handful of actual conservatives in all of government. Honestly I don’t believe most of these politicians even have read the constitution. They don’t know what a citizen is or what citizenship is supposed to bestow onto a person. They think a government is a means to give other people’s money and liberties always for votes. The hell with them all, start fresh. All politicians should have to take a test about the constitution and specially the Bill of Right (the first ten amendments) inorder to qualify to be on a ballot.

    • Piquerish

      I’ve long believed that most of these arrogant Mandarins have NEVER read the US Constitution, or even can tell it from the Declaration of Independence. God help us all.

  • GatorJim123

    OK. Your reward is I will never vote Republican again. Enjoy!

    • historyguy48

      Obviously you haven’t figured out yet that there is only a single party in charge. The Progressives of both “parties” have combined and now rule this country as their fiefdom.
      They could care less about anyones vote.

      • GatorJim123

        Obviously, I figured that out 20 years ago. But thanks for your guidance. My message was for the Progressive Republicans.

        • Liliana Rawks

          A couple of years ago I would’ve laughed at you saying “Progressive Republicans.” Now I nod my head in agreement. Amazing.

        • historyguy48

          Since the coup was last November they couldn’t care less. they’ve only been maintaining the fiction of two parties while they complete the final consolidation of power phase.
          Since that is now very close to completion you’ll see the various masks drop off their faces in the near future.

  • OutrageInMI

    The Republican Party is losing consistent voters like me because they no longer stand for anything important to me. They are the worst at getting out their message and because of that the Dems constantly control the false narrative and distractions. Poor leadership, tired message, lack of vision. Is the leadership listening??

    • XJFKdemocrat

      No, they are not. They are also losing recent voters like me, who thought that they stood for something. Instead they do exactly as you say. They let the dems define the narrative and them, articulate nothing coherent and put forth mush as leadership. They refuse to dance with those that brought them back to the party, after their well deserved bouncing.

      • Liliana Rawks

        Excellent post! That’s what ticks me off. . .they not only allow the Dems to define the narrative (you have to pander to Hispanics) but they buy into the narrative! They actually fall all over themselves trying to pander to 8 percent of the electorate. Even that 8 percent doesn’t turn out to vote. The hispanic turnout rate is 60 percent that of the rest of the country!

        • XJFKdemocrat

          They are taking advice from Rove and the Bush gang and it shows. Progressives in both parties don’t prioritize liberty.

    • Piquerish

      Absolutely dead-on right. The party has had a death wish while the slimy gutter fighters of the left have had a kill lust. Not the best of combinations for people who see the hideous dangers the left represent.

  • Bob Coco

    No citizenship for those who broke our immigration laws. Yes, they can stay with long term work visas, but no right to vote, EVER! You can work here, pay your taxes but no citizenship. That’s a slap in the face to all our ancestors who did it legally.

  • huntercampbell

    “and a rising star within the Republican Party” I am sick of hearing this terminology when describing politicians. They are supposed to be servants to the people who elected them and to our Country, which includes upholding our constitution….A Great sentence worth repeating. Forever. Thank you Mr. England.

  • chad kern

    if they pass amnesty, America dies. traitors.

  • YERMOM182

    if they pass anything other than border enforcement, especially if they pass some doucher amnesty bill it will be the end of the GOP and Ryan’s career. Ask Rubio how that worked out for him.

    • Liliana Rawks

      Really? So, you think they ought to pass border enforcement? Why? It will just turn into amnesty.

      • YERMOM182

        do I think that the laws of the country should be enforced? yeah.

        I think it’s pretty clear what I think of amnesty.

        • Liliana Rawks

          Then stop advocating passing even border security. They need to STOP thinking of passing anything.

    • historyguy48

      ANY bill that’s passed will be changed in committee into amnesty. Any amnesty will destroy the middle class by flooding the labor market with 35-45 million poorly educated low skill workers.

      • Liliana Rawks

        Isn’t it ridiculous that we have to explain this to adults? Seriously. . .how can they NOT know how this country works?

        • historyguy48

          Many of the public schools stopped teaching government in the late ’60′s or early 70′s.
          Many people also never thought that anyone would want to purposely overthrow our system of government.
          They did and now we have to deal with it.

  • CharlieKeats

    The should hear us! Border security first. No amnesty. No benefits. For me, these are paramount. Hopefully they aren’t going to walk all over wishes of legal, tax paying Americans like the Dems did.

  • SandraDoes

    So, any Repub that votes FOR this! in 2014 they can run as Democrats and step aside so we can get REAL AMERICANS in office to represent us.

  • 1NonPermissive

    American politicians care more about illegals, then they do American citizens. I for one, have had it with both parties!

  • freddy

    Why didn’t he doe this in the first place and try to pass a bad bill.

  • TXduck

    Oh yeah this was the Conservative that ran with Romney, sure and he’s selling us down the river just like the Democrats. What a sorry piece of work.

  • maisy

    He’s a treasonous, lousy SOB!

  • historyguy48

    We have a deer season and a duck season perhaps its time to think about having additional open hunting seasons. Only these should be year round.

  • RETUSAF1995

    The House just passed the SAFE Act that requires local/state police to enforce immigration law, that means police can ask people if they are US citizens and for immigration paperwork anywhere not just near the border. Look for this to be in the House bill. The Senate will never agree to any House bill. The Senate wants their bill passed with all the special interest deals and goodies intact.

    Immigration reform/amnesty bill is dead. The House is going to drag this out to the end of the year. Come Jan, a election year, no ones is going to want to touch it.

    • DFWSteelerFan

      From your lips to God’s ears!

    • historyguy48

      An optimist! How very refreshing!
      It’s a shame you’re dead wrong.

    • cranky_1970

      No, my friend. Read Micky Kaus’s column in the Daily Caller. Obama’s “pivot to the economy” speech is Kabuki theater to get conservatives pacified. Meanwhile, the evil traitor John Boehner gets one little piecemeal bill passed in the House with the word immigration in it. He then uses that to conference with the US Senate. That is when America will be betrayed and the entire Amnesty package will get approved and immigration accelerated at a time when 17% of Americans who need to work full time can’t. And this will become structural unemployment due to superfluous and society destroying immigration.

      33 million new job seekers in the next decade. Think about it. 60 million new Hispanics on the welfare roles by 2025.

  • cranky_1970

    Primary Ryan!
    Ryan is a traitor!
    Primary Ryan!
    Ryan is a traitor!
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    Ryan is a traitor!
    Primary Ryan!
    Ryan is a traitor!
    Primary Ryan!
    Ryan is a traitor!
    Primary Ryan!
    Ryan is a traitor!
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    Ryan is a traitor!
    Primary Ryan!
    Ryan is a traitor!
    Primary Ryan!
    Ryan is a traitor!

  • WhatWillYouDoWithoutFreedom

    because he has been bought

  • Jim Hinnant

    Another traitor removes his mask.

  • Lecsky

    Stinkin’ P O S TRAITOR!

  • mike newkirk

    good bye, good riddance. John has a long mustache, John has a long mustache.

  • Yeahright

    Say good-bye Mr. Ryan and the rest of the GOP.
    The GOP is done and if your voting for either party? You’re voting against Constitutional America.

    • Buzz Swanson

      Ryan, Rubio, and the others don’t have any idea of the depth of feeling among the grassroots on the illegal immigration matter. They’re signing their own political death certificates. What fools!

  • BennyZ

    ENFORCE THE PRESENT LAWS YOU TRAITORS — STOP KISSING FOREIGN CITIZENS’ BUTTS!!!

  • TheRedCorner

    Ryan and his cohorts in both parties will try to appease us with language like, “probational visas,” and fifteen year waits for citizenship,” But I guarantee you that within a year of passing this, the Democrats, led by Chuck Schumer, will be calling it unfair and start a campaign to remove the probationary period. It’s in the Dems best interest to get these illegals into voting booths as soon as possible. And the Ryans, Rubios, Grahams and McCains will all go down in history as the men who allowed America to die.

    • BennyZ

      The Federal Courts will immediately throw out any restrictions….you cannot have “second class citizens”. All the politicians know this…and so they are lying to the American People.

  • samwoods

    No amnesty – ever. Illegals here in California don’t want citizenship. They want the right to be here legally so they can take everyone’s low skilled jobs and eventually get disability and Medicare.

  • 36Free

    Buh bye, Paul. Nice knowing you. When you want to come back and ask for forgiveness and a chance to explain to conservatives…we have long memories and won’t happen. Hope you like your office in Congress, maybe you can shape it like an oval. Its the closest you will come to one.

  • Poppy Haynes

    That is going to be the end of Ryan, Boehner and a lot of others. I, and many others, will not donate or vote for anyone who backs this bill. They should let S744 die because, and mark my words, if it goes to conference these idiots will not get one thing they asked for. But, they know that and are taking an in your face approach to the wishes of the American people. It can not be tolerated any longer.

  • Piquerish

    Wow, more turn-cloaks in GOP than in Game of Thrones. Or IS this the Game of Thrones?

  • MerphisEllis

    RINO

  • Westtexan

    Doesn’t take long for these “conservatives” to show who they really are. Just lackeys of the NWO crowd: no borders, no language, no culture. To hell with them all. Wake up people!!!!

  • Noble Gunnz

    I guess we need to look in our mirrors to find someone willing to protect usf rom these treasonous ash holes?

  • insanitychili

    They had better hurry and legalize so that they can complete the wealth transfer from the middle class to the low class via obamcare.

  • Jesuslander

    Illegal aliens do not care about or understand US citizenship. They only want to be able to bring their families here and abuse the welfare system. Ryan is just one of many politicians who pimp out American citizenship for votes that keep them in power. We have lost our country.

  • abaton7

    Rewarding LAWBREAKERS is WRONG WRONG WRONG! We will all pay for this,…..for decades, if not centuries to come.

    • cranky_1970

      It’s worse. You are assuming a stable and whole country going forward. I foresee instead a breakup of the US along ethnic lines with the founding population herded into about a quarter of the US land mass contiguous with Canada.

    • jojopittsburgh

      They always show how we need workers to make the SS tables work. But, it will not work if we bring in unskilled people who don’t pay in, just take out. SS is not a separate program but part of the General revenue, and thus raided and in debt. So, more payments to unskilled workers only helps the Demorats.

  • Thomas Hope

    IS it good for American citizens????
    Prove it
    What does it cost us

    • insanitychili

      Shut up and share the wealth.

      • Noble Gunnz

        Ah….if only there was some left to share….those were the days my friend. We thought they’d never end.

        • jojopittsburgh

          and it goes on and on…. 1260 and counting down. I have a big jar of black jelly beans, licorice yuck, but I get to eat one a day until he’s gone.

  • insanitychili

    we need to amend constitution such that constituents have the right to burn their representatives at the stake (or with a steak).

  • cranky_1970

    Paul Ryan lied about running a three hour marathon. He is a lot like Anthony Wiener: a liar and a psychopath.

  • atillathehunney

    What the hell is he DOING? Deport these people and their illegal children. mexicans/latinos deserve no special treatment or any level of consideration by the UNITED STATES!

  • Yeahright

    Anything coming out of the GOP that seems to support the Constitution is just political cover. To prevent a mass exodus from the GOP. As example by the GOP controlled house not ending the NSA 2 days ago. They gave enough members room to vote no and yet failed to end spying on American Citizens. not a one in the GOP is trustworthy.

    Rand Paul needs to leave the GOP.
    Moderates, Independents, Libertarians and Constitutionalists need to join under one banner and bring a return to Cosntitutional America. The time is now and the previous POTUS election proves out the math. Both parties can be defeated.s

    • ggm281

      It wouldn’t have ended “spying” on US citizens. The database that both the IRS AND the consumer protection bureau are far more extensive. They are literally building profiles of every household tracking credit and debit card purchases, bank account, mortgage information, health information, employer information, and you are worried about the NSA???
      The ability of this administration to utilize the media to distract the public from the real stories is far better than either the Clinton OR Bush administrations.

      • Yeahright

        Agreed. Just bringing up one point in the cog of Washington DC and NWO.
        Both parties are working it.

  • Media_lies2013

    Will not vote for a single traitor who signs it.

  • 729

    Both parties want to make damn sure the middle class is gone.

  • cindy lu

    Repubs-they put the ill in illegal

  • 729

    GOP… Grand Ole Pretenders.

  • esmea

    What Ryan is doing is truly despicable because he and his puppet-master Boehner are fully aware that any border-security measures built into the bill will be ripped out during conference committee and replaced with much of the Obama/Reid Senate bill travesty – guaranteeing the Secretary of DHS the ability to be the sole arbiter in immigration law, which means absolutely no border enforcement and penalties + expedited citizenship within a couple of years = one party Democrat rule. The House bill will be all smoke and mirrors – just like the feckless, corrupt GOP representation we are forced to deal with every single day.

  • sp2580

    Third party here we come!!!! If these dirt-balls vote for amnesty,I will NEVER again cast a vote for a Republian candidate. We absolutely need a third party because the Rino’s and Marxist’s are playing us between the forty yard lines. We live under a corrupt oligarchy.

  • argh32

    Ryan has sold out the conservatives. He is the new McCain!

  • disqus_TZwmIwpSB5

    Until the do away with “family reunification” provisions and the ability of naturalized citizens to bring all of their relatives – especially elderly parents who they dump on Medicaid and SSI, I will not support any “DREAM ACT”.

  • froggy546

    He is no rising star if he wants to give away citizenship to people whose first acting here was coming illegally. If they make them illegal they should NEVER have the right to welfare, food stamps, social security or anything else they afe felons.

  • RobertReade

    Ryan is a joke. No one says so, but I think Ryan was one of mistakes that cost Romney the election. The smarmy jerk bounced around the campaign trail not knowing how to behave.

  • FreezingFreddieMN

    To every newly elected “representative” in DC. DO NOT DRINK THE WATER!!! Something must be tainting the water to get the group-think mentality to take hold.

    We currently have an immigration policy, now start enforcing it!

  • GOTP_54

    The recipe for success:

    Secede.
    Restrict voting to property owners.
    Execute any illegals who make the choice to stay.

  • eaglechick

    I vote Dr. Ben Carson and Ted Cruz

    • GOTP_54

      I vote 2nd Amendment and Natural Born Citizen, thereby disqualifying both.

      • Noble Gunnz

        Yeah….Cruz can come home and run for president of Texas after the 2014 midterms fizzle.

  • Spanky9

    Ryan has just disqualified himself from my support. Resolution of the illegal alien surge into this country is akin to “the tail wagging the dog.” Anyone, for any reason, who violates our laws in entering this country is not entitled to ANY citizen rights. And besides, we don’t want to pass a bill that can be modified through negotiations with the Senate or through an Executive Order signed by the President.

  • Steven Shearon

    You mean former rising star,

  • http://www.facebook.com/fhuh.kew Fhuh Kew

    Look mommy !!! PeeWee Hermanberger !!!

  • bobbyhonduras@yahoo.com

    I voted Republican when it was not cool, but if their leadership cave on immigration, or the budget, or any other democrat communist scheme such as using donated money to the party to help advance the dems, I will never vote for another Republican. Also they need to kick out Carl Rove, Jeb Bush, Chris Christy, and a host of others.

  • happtakytrails

    If Ryan is a Republican, I am not.

    I voted for him in 2012. He is stupid or being paid off.

  • Polyphemos

    I believe Paul Ryan would make a fine linebacker on the GOP team, IF he drops the pretension of leadership. He will never again be a candidate for quarterback.

  • Middletown

    who was that other guy who was a star here a while ago? that dude from florida….
    ya know the one in the senate….
    whats his name?

    • Liliana Rawks

      Hey, he got what he wanted. The Florida cruise industry sent him in with a job to do. He did it.

  • jmatt55

    You will get all amnesty and no border security. They are not fooling anyone. We heard it all before in ’86.

    Obama will simply ignore every part of the legislation he doesn’t like and the Republicans will allow him to do it.

  • esmea

    Ryan (Rubio, et al) have essentially joined Obama’s socialist cabal to transform this nation. Does this man actually believe Obama will enforce ANY immigration law passed by Congress? Obama is currently forcing ICE agents to go into prisons in order to ask illegal felons if they qualify as “Dreamers”. When they answer in the affirmative, the ICE agents must then release them back to the streets. No further investigation, no further questions. THAT is Obama’s idea of immigration enforcement – identifying Obama Dreamers within our prisons and letting them loose, where they will inevitably commit more crimes. And yet, here we have Ryan and the other GOP quislings, under Boehner’s instruction, providing a bill that if turned into law, will just provide Obama another opportunity to pick and choose the parts he will or won’t enforce, like he’s currently doing with Obamacare. Absolutely outrageous.

  • harley2002

    Well what do you all expect from people that already look at us as gutless sheep. The figure they could pass a bill forcing us to take government sanctioned enemas once a month enforced by the TSA and we would just line up and do it. We have shown absolutely no courage in standing up for our rights. Better get off your behinds and show them we are not sheep by October or the next bill will be a nice train ride to the fema camps for the people they deem troublemakers.

    Also is it not just wonderful how they decided we don’t have the right to at least see what they are voting on. I would say lock and load but what good would it do to a country of wimps.

    • Liliana Rawks

      Agree. Completely. Americans are too busy being distracted by the next shiny thing to actually stand up for our rights. The result? We lose them, inch by inch.

  • jojopittsburgh

    Ryan is a fine young man, but wrong on immigration. We should be seeking and begging for the best of the best when getting immigrants. The educated, the tax payers. The Republicans would appear as the most “open” to immigration and the most popular because they can increase the number of qualified taxpayers, that are easily assimilated. We don’t need more unskilled laborers, those are easily available in Detroit. GOP needs to lure in SKILLED labor, and they will beat the Dems. at their own game.

    • Liliana Rawks

      Now THAT I can go for. Bring in the best and brightest from around the world. We should be infusing our gene pool with brilliance, not trash.

      • jojopittsburgh

        Exactly. Be PRO immigrant, not PRO leech.

  • socraticsilliness

    Immigration ‘reform’……GOP running up the white flag AGAIN……

  • http://richmondtommy.wordpress.com/ Tommy Hancock

    I wonder how many millions of us will just decide not to vote if our Republican party goes against the will of the people and pass a amnesty bill? I have always voted but when it comes to being no difference in what they do when in office, what is the point?

    • Liliana Rawks

      Tommy, I think there will be a lot of us. More than in 2012. I’m glad. It’s time to kill this party even if it means a couple more years of Dem control.

      • jojopittsburgh

        I would do anything to get rid of Obama, let’s try to move the country slightly to the right, even if we can’t make a sudden U turn.

        • Liliana Rawks

          May take some heartache to get there. As I said, I’ll even tolerate more Dem control if it means we get a clean conservative party.

          • jojopittsburgh

            Look to Europe. They ended up with a “Conservative Party” that was just liberal light. We will not end up with a pure/clean conservative party. We will end up with different handouts. Vote for smaller government and you don’t have to worry about policies, because the government will be scrambling to just meet basic needs, and not expanding.

          • Liliana Rawks

            Aside from Cruz, who is for smaller govt.?

          • jojopittsburgh

            Little old me and thee?

      • PROUD_TEXAN

        If you kill the GOP, it will be decades of socialist rule before your ever able to win again, if ever. We need to vote Republican, and just primary all RINO’s that are elected until we get a conservative government. Staying home got us MAObama for four more years. Romney would have been better even with all of his baggage until he could have been primaried.

        • jojopittsburgh

          True. If we go completely socialist, it will take an average of 30 years to run out of other people’s money based on history. We don’t have to have BIG wins, just enough to turn the ship around. Then we can work on educating the youth, etc once we get in power. This is not the time for Republicans to demand ALL or Nothing. But we have to draw the line at the borders, pun intended….

          • pepe

            The masses are confused. They blame equally both parties.

            There is a lot to be said for giving the sinking ship to Demos, and let them be tied to the disaster THEY caused.

            I can understand why others who agree with me on principle, may disagree on the means. This what we’re talking about folks.

            What will you do? I’m single. Those with families, may God guide you.

        • pepe

          We ran out of our money a while ago.

    • jojopittsburgh

      And if BOTH parties vote for amnesty, and you try to go third party? You lose again. Vote for anyone who wants a smaller government, and it will get better. I hate amnesty, abortion, etc. But, never let one issue make up your vote, or we all lose. SMALL GOVERNMENT makes every freedom possible, and NO socialist program can survive a small government, including immigration.

      • AbidewithMe

        And exactly WHO in the GOP is a small government supporter, pray tell us?

      • http://richmondtommy.wordpress.com/ Tommy Hancock

        I understand all those points JOJO but there is just not enough difference in the parties now. I will still vote when there is a person that has not disappointed me again and I trust. I have Forbes here in Va and he is a good man. I used to be one of those like you that said that a third party vote is a wasted vote but the truth is that the third parties will never grow unless people change that way of thinking. I think both parties fight too much about gay issues and abortion and I think the states should handle those problems and the Federal government should concentrate on the economy and jobs. I don’t decide anything by one issue but there have been many disappointments. Even the Supreme Court turned against us when Roberts made his ruling. We need the fire the IRS and institute a consumption tax so all citizens will pay taxes and the IRS can get out of the welfare business. We are now 17 trillion dollars in debt, unbelievable!!!

    • jjr5268

      Millions decided not to vote in the last election and look what happened.

      • AbidewithMe

        Pretty much the same thing that would have happened had Romney won – the RINO’s would have pushed through their agenda (democrat lite), the Patriot Act would still be with us, some sort of national health system would still have appeared, etc. Politicians of either stripe are first of all politicians – they are lawyers and know better than the public at large. Just ask them – they’ll tell you.

  • MrLogical

    Someone needs to send Paul Ryan a note to inform him that…

    …Every person in every nation of the world* has a legal pathway to U.S. citizenship.

    Case 1: In whatever country you live in, simply go to the U.S. Embassy or Consulate and make an application for citizenship and then sit back and let the process take its course. The application process has a number of steps and takes some time, and – importantly – not everyone who applies is accepted.

    Case 2: If you’re already in the U.S. illegally, simply go back to your native country, wait 10 years and then follow the same steps as for Case 1.

    In either case, after you’ve applied, once all the background investigative steps and character vetting have taken place, if the INS decides that the U.S. needs your skills, they’ll let you know. Otherwise, stay where you are and don’t cross our borders illegally, and don’t visit the U.S. on a tourist visa and ‘overstay’ your visit.

    Someone needs to explain this to Obama, all of the Democrats and any of the Republicans who keep complaining that “…our immigration system is broken.”

    It’s NOT broken. It’s the most liberal immigration system in the world and it actually works quite well if you simply follow the lawful process. If anything is broken, it’s the laughably lax enforcement of our borders and our equally laughable visa entry/exit procedures.

    *With the notable exceptions of N. Korea, Cuba and a very small handful of other nations considered hostile and unfriendly to the U.S. National interest.

    • Liliana Rawks

      Go to his facebook page and let him know. He’s getting quite an earful.

  • jjr5268

    No criminal illegal invader amnesty. There is nothing in this bill that is any benefit to any actual US citizen.

  • another_engineer

    I backed ryan as a wisconsin resident.. I now loathe him.

    I put him in the realm of Senator Ghamnesty and the rest of the sellouts.

  • pepe

    Game over. The Republican Party of today, I mean.

    Yesterday’s conservative Republicans need to think about where they’ll go and what they’ll do.

  • suzy000

    We need to contact our Representative and let them know this cannot be. The Senate Bill is full of Pork and Americans are struggling to find work as it is. King is right…..for every illegal trying to do what’s right, there are eight breaking laws and sponging off the system. The media is keeping a lid on all this to cover the Dem’s arses. We need to piece meal it and drop the Senate’s Bill entirely!

  • FR2011

    Ryan is a political loser. That we know. This is just more of the same. His plan is immediate legalization, with border security later. That is a loser.

    The Gang of 8 bill needs to be tabled immediately, as Reid has tabled so many bills out of the House.

    Under no circumstance do you go to conference with the Senate bill.

    Call Ryan- and Boehner- and stop this nonsense.

  • http://www.sodahead.com/PrairieWind Prairie Wind

    How hard is it to not only say “NO”, but enforce that which we already have? Our Congress must act upon our demands, not their wishes for political achievement and we, as voters, best become literate to know what we want and who we want representing us. The Republic is ours, not that of a government!

  • bobbyhonduras@yahoo.com

    How could I have missed Mr. RIno Juan McCain? He slanders the Constitution, the Republican Party and the American People. I don’t know any one can be wrong on almost all the issues.

  • jojopittsburgh

    Vote for a viable candidate who is for SMALL government, and all other problems with disappear overnight. You’ll get lower taxes and no new programs to ‘help’ illegals do anything. A smaller government does less harm, by definition. Quit looking to specific policies on this or that, abortion/immigration. Just vote SMALLER GOVERNMENT.

  • rich

    Obviously outside of MASSIVE immigration change as in letting in more Europeans and ending illegal immigration while lowering legal immigration as well, the Republican Party is done soon. Once Texas goes democrat, it is over and out for Republicans any way. That state NEEDS more Republican white voters as do many others. Notice the democrats are ALWAYS filling up their roster of voters while the Republicans incredibly look to weaken their base. The democrats know EXACTLY what they are doing. Then you have some of these neo cons who are obviously bought off just going with the program. Ryan is nothing special. He got destroyed in that debate with Biden. Another one step forward, two steps back kind of Republican. Do these Republicans REALLY think they can win places like Detroit or Chicago? Dream on boyzzzzzz… You are killing your party!

  • Norinos

    The incessant culture inside the DC beltway hold’s the only thing in common that has to change. They are all there for THEM! NOT for us! What used to be a service, has now become a profession. Truth be told, they are ALL there for one reason and it point’s to their OWN power. That has to change.

  • Aki Bola

    Sweet, now we know a timetable to defeat the democrats and RINOs.

  • bworei

    You do so at your own risk, Congressman. Do not forget that you live in a blue state, and be very aware that there is a movement afoot among conservatives to vote Democratic in your and Speaker Boehner’s districts next November. Your seats are anything but safe and we will not be trifled with. You have been warned.

  • ecinkc

    I was surprised when Romney picked him as running mate, because the consensus as the time seemed to view him as decently conservative. Now it’s becoming clear that he would have been a perfect fit for Romney.

    I hope people in his district immediately start fighting tooth and nail raise up a primary challenger and defeat him.

    There are missteps that so-called conservatives can make and still be tolerated, but quickening the path to citizenship before the border is thoroughly proven to be more than 90% (I might contend 95%) closed is a choice to willfully abandon all that remains good about this nation so that all the worst elements will crush and devour it.

    Does he pretend to show compassion by inviting and empowering the bloodthirsty marauders that began their siege decades ago? There is no wisdom, no logic; there is no upside at all. There is only treason by evil loathsome cowards of men–men like Paul Ryan.

  • dahart

    It’s funny we keep telling them we want enforcement and yet they still keep pushing reform. One would have to wonder if they have hearing problem or listening problem or worse they just don’t give a Sh!$.

  • http://richmondtommy.wordpress.com/ Tommy Hancock

    It really does seem now that most politicians once they get elected just sit back and say to themselves ” Glad that is over, now I can do whatever I want. I know more than the voters anyway.”

  • Danneskjold Repossessions

    If they vote to reward criminals and felons for their criminality, I will never again be a republican.

  • Kree13

    Thanks Ryan for being standing with the VERY FEW republicans with the balls to do what’s right and not stumble and bow to the TeaBoogers. #Fu%keM

    • pepe

      LOL. Hilarious! But for sarcasm, a ; -) or (sarc) usually helps.

  • Robert Govan

    Hey all you patriots. Did you know that Obamas Good friend Morgan Freeman was the dude that was Jimi Hendrix that they made a legend and then FAKED his death. And that Morgans dad is the cat that is right now playing Nelson Mandela. And that Jim Morrison is Chevy Chase and J Belushi is a cat named Michael Learner. And 2Pac is Dave Chappelle. And a BUNCH more. You all live in a nwo bs lying, mass media, mind control matrix. Take the red pill you will get the world by THE BALLS. Just like them. Your pal Neo…..Wellaware1.com

  • jojopittsburgh

    What was wrong with “shovel ready” projects being to build a fence and patrol that fence? Nothing. Bring in skilled workers, not illegals to educate and medicate (does that sound like Jesse Jackson to others beside me? sorry).

  • juantolduso2

    Ryan,Rubio and all Rino’s will learn to love the sound of “permanent minority in congress” if they go thru with the other monstrosity of a law, yeah that ill-migration law they want!

  • Terry W.

    Paul Ryan the modern day Benedict Arnold. Can you believe this A-hole almost became Vice President, at least we know Joe Biden is brain dead, who’s pockets is this guy in?

  • NomasObamaPorFavor

    Good bye Mr. Ryan . Apparently you believe you lost the election for not polishing the knobs of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, or shall we say Law Breakers from other than the USA, hate to tell you this but you lost because the very DEMONcrats who your trying to polish their poles cheated, yes cheated , oh and you and your running mate forgot to use conservative principals when debating these two current clowns.
    After this little speech you sir have made the same list as Mc Cain, Rubio, and the lot, do you forget who voted you in, apparently you do, I pledge to assist in primaring you along with all RINOS, enjoy Washington and your throat being force fed Illegals and the agenda, as your time will be short lived.
    Ladies and gentlemen remember Detroit was once ran by men with class and style and was a BOOMING metropolous, then along came these RINOS and DEMONCRATS and walla you have a peek at the future if we continue to vote for these no balls RINOS, don’t get me wrong I do not hate illegals however they are helping to destroy what they ran from at home, time for them to go back home and do as we have to kick out the bumbs and take back their country, not help in destroying ours, so let’s have another day without Mexicans, and when they take to the streets of the United States of America with their flags for Mexico, we load em up in the tractor tailors and take em to the border, give them a 100.00 to get home and pay their army 1,000.00 for each illegal they prevent from crossing, it will cost a whole lot less to run our nation and their army will for sure keep them on their side

    • PROUD_TEXAN

      Think of the wage hikes that would result for Americans.

  • Liliana Rawks

    And yet. . .”On Wednesday, Maricopa County sheriff’s deputies and posse volunteers executed search warrants at three locations of Uncle Sam’s Restaurants following a nine-month forgery and ID theft investigation.

    Sheriff’s detectives say as many as 121 people hired to work for the restaurant chain since October gained employment by using falsified documents and stolen IDs. Sheriff Joe Arpaio said many of the victims are local residents.

    As many as 50 deputies and posse members attempted to locate 70 suspects currently employed at two restaurant locations. At least 10 of the 70 suspects were arrested by MCSO deputies at the scene.”

    Sheriff Joe gets it. Yet an entire Republican party doesn’t.

    • AbidewithMe

      I’d like to know why the owners of this chain were not arrested. These are the people who are in favor of selling our country to the highest bidder – the corporations who want cheap help, rather than paying an American citizen, and soon – their Obamacare “benefits”.

      • Liliana Rawks

        They searched his home. Here’s the rest of the piece: “Detectives also searched the owner’s Scottsdale home office – and he may face state penalties for harboring illegal aliens.

        Arpaio said the investigation began in October after his office received a tip from a caller. Detectives found 121 discrepancies including multiple names, addresses, no existing records and/or names not matching the Social Security numbers provided.

        This was the 73rd workplace ID theft operation conducted by sheriff’s detectives in just the past 5 years.

        In the previous such operations, 100% of all suspects found to be committing identity theft to gain employment were illegal aliens. Sheriff Joe’s office has investigated, arrested on the streets and in the jails over 79,000 illegal aliens.”

        • pepe

          We need more like Sheriff Joe.

          I’m generally against cloning, but if we could make an exception for this guy …

    • PROUD_TEXAN

      Those restaurant’s should have been fined $25,000 a head.

      • Liliana Rawks

        They may get fines. . .it only happened day before yesterday. Current law calls for fines.

  • nocab

    No amnesty no selling America to la raza , America is not for sale . DEPORT THE INVADERS along with their young .

  • bill_a_bob

    House Rubio

  • bub23

    The illegals DON’T WANT CITIZENSHIP!!!! The Republicans are operating out of the wrong premise, AGAIN!!!!

    • Yeahright

      No their not. That’s just what they’re telling us.
      The premise is that many businesses want cheap labor.
      From Tech to Construction. Putting hard working middle America in the poor house.

  • TheRealTruth

    Ryan is a RINO, you don’t get that high up in the party being otherwise. McCain and Romney were picked to lose and lose they did. If you thought otherwise about Romney you were duped, he is and was no conservative savior.

    • Yeahright

      Neither McLame or Romney ever came off as conservatives.
      If people thought that was their persona? Then the GOP base is not to be trusted.

      • TheRealTruth

        Many people THOUGHT Romney was.

        • Yeahright

          Exactly.
          It proves the electorate is not participating but just going through the motions. The main reason we are, where we are as a nation. In deep do do.

  • TheRealTruth

    Illegals don’t want citizenship of a country they hate, they want this country Mexican and speaking Spanish.

  • NotThatStupidYet

    Ryan, you simply disgust me. You slimy politician P.O.S. Did you get that NSA?

  • buffmuffin

    For those wishing to Email Ryan and let him know just how much of a cum-bucket he is, you can use this zip + 4

    53406-3919

  • BuckSargent

    Enforce the immigration laws that are already on the books. The Obama administration has basically been blackmailing the country to accept the concept of blanket amnesty by not investing in border security. Make the e-verify for employment mandatory for all businesses and stop with all this nonsense.

  • Kree13

    It’s time for a Christie,Rubio,Ryan,Walker GOP takeover kill the fringe of the party off and start over. #Truth

    • buffmuffin

      LOL, why bother? Why not just vote Communist Party America?

      Why waste time with middle-men?

      btw, go to a room in the back of your house, put a gun in your mouth, pull the trigger, and do the world a favor.

      • XJFKdemocrat

        buff one, you’ve got a way with words.

        • buffmuffin

          yeah, not exactly a silver tongued devil…

          • XJFKdemocrat

            “right on target, so direct”

    • XJFKdemocrat

      That dog won’t hunt. Without conservatives and libertarians, you’re toast.

  • DrJayBee

    You want to secure the boarder within 60 days with minimal or no cost? Let Native born American citizens volunteer to patrol the border. Just make sure they can legally own the gun they’re required to bring. They’ll furnish their own ammo, too, at no charge. Simply require them to attend a 2 or 3 day training, then deputize them as Border Patrol agents.
    The flood of illegals would dry up so fast, it would make your head spin…guaranteed.

    • buckofama2010

      Authorize the use of deadly force for anyone who enters. THAT will put an end to it in about 48 hours

      • DrJayBee

        You got it. That’s why they have to bring their own ammo. And you are probably right….more like a few days and it would be over.

  • Sims

    F_CK you Ryan

  • TheRealTruth

    Build dorms along the border and let white collar prisoners build a fence.

    • buckofama2010

      NO MAKE people do the work who are parasites and live off welfare and foodstamps…make them pe in the bottle daily too

  • TexanLovesNY

    I am very disappointed in Paul Ryan. I thought he was a true conservative. Does he not realize that providing immediate “legal” status to 11 million workers will flood the already constrained unemployment with more unskilled labor? What the h-e-ll is the matter with you, Mr. Ryan? Have you lost your mind? We have another 10 million Americans, many of them who are veterans, who cannot find jobs.

    And what makes you think that this administration will enforce any new legislation, Mr. Ryan? Already neither Holder and Obama have enforced Title 8, section 1325, which requires the jailing of any illegal aliens.

    Enough is enough! I can’t take these RINO’s anymore! 2014 cannot come soon enough. It’s time to get true “Reagan” conservatives into the primaries to beat spineless, pathetic RINOs like Ryan, Boneheaded Boehner, and Eric “I’m pretending to be a Conservative” Cantor.

    You’re all pathetic – go away, resign now, and let’s restore the Constitution to its rightful place in this country. You have all committed treason against the hard-working citizens of this nation by aiding and abetting foreign enemies – disgusting!

    • buckofama2010

      he is a RINO

  • The End is Near

    How about enforcing the laws already on the books, start by convicting 1,000+ ELECTED POLITICIANS for high treason for allowing the FED debt to exceed law, and for allowing illegal aliens to remain in the US.

    Why use rope to hang them, PUT THE 1.6 billion rounds of ammo to good use.

  • SoTxJoe

    The current system is NOT broken, it’s just not being enforced. The main argument is that we can’t just send eleven million ILLEGAL Mexicans across the border. Well, why can’t we? Mexico did.

    How about amnesty for bank robbers? They are only trying to improve their economic condition, they don’t mind “bending” a few laws to do so, and they do a job most Americans won’t do.

    Have you read Animal Farm? By turning into liberals, the republicans are the pigs.

  • MissSterious

    We can sit and complain or we all plan a road trip to DC for October!

    • buffmuffin

      I’m tired of talking about it too…

  • buckofama2010

    The ONLY acceptable “immigration reform” is NO AMNESTY EVER, deport ALL illegals, stop ALL freebies, SEAL the border by lethal means, do not allow anyone who violated our laws to EVER come back, Give JAIL TIME for employers hiring illegals as well as for those who rent to them or in any way assist them. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. You work for WE THE PEOPLE, not illegal invaders. START ACTING LIKE IT. ANYONE who puts these invaders over AMERICANS will be voted out. You are no better than the marxist dems. I will work tirelessly to support primary opponents of anyone voting for this and will give generously to them. I will do the same for anyone voting for violating the second amendment or who does not do EVERYTHING to remove obamacare

  • thepunditnet

    Can’t we just handle illegals like mexico handles illegals? You know, dirty water in their jails, bread from the floor (after they are robbed of anything they have of course).

    I mean that would be a deterrent.

  • mscol

    I hope the leader of the party has a different agenda. PR seems to think he’s the John McCain of the house. Another reason we need to have term limits.

  • Polly Tickin

    Ryan, Rubio, Christie et al… all f**king cowards. Maybe if there are enough heroine dealers in the country, they’ll legalize that next…

  • The End is Near

    Mexico is officially named The United States of Mexico, LOOK IT UP!!
    they already know they own the USA

  • coolercoleman

    Ryan is another fraud who campaigned as a conservative. He threw his future out the window with the liar Rubio.

  • TheRealTruth

    White people are not a factor in the New World Order. Who would have guessed that 50 years ago???? It’s all about color and muslims. Who knew?

    • Yeahright

      Have to agree. Just look at Europe’s current condition.
      The USA is not far behind.

      • TheRealTruth

        Exactly.

    • buffmuffin

      they are more easily led, and thus make more desirable slaves.

  • Kathleen3

    Paul Ryan is as much a rising star as Jeb Bush is Conservatives’ choice for President. Both statements are fabricated by the likes of Karl Rove, RINO Party Bosses, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and big business lobbyists.

    Paul Ryan is a bought and paid for career politician. He embodies reasons we must purge his type from office and replace them with patriotic, moral, and ethical public servants in the mold of Jeff Sessions, Steve King, Mo Brooks, Louie Goehmert, and Ted Cruz.

  • sherlock32555

    Who ever votes for any part of this does not believe in the rule of law. As far as I am concerned they needed to be voted out! All I can say is do you reward someone who breaks the law with citizenship for fence hopping needs to be put in an insane asylum because their elevator does not go to the top floor! Your thinking needs to be corrected!

  • seadragon

    why do they continually have such a great disreguard for our constitution? when our elected officials are in the middle of these scandals it sends a very clear message to these criminals…… they follow their lead. so they will commit crimes because its allowed.

  • savage24

    On the Romney/Ryan ticket, I had better feelings for Ryan then I did for Romney. Now I find that Ryan is just a sleazy politician like the rest of them. Why is it that when these politicians get to Washington DC and take their oath of office, to support and defend the Constitution, they dishonor that oath as quick as they can. Their so called honor can be bought by just about any K Street lobbyist or special interest group and their constituents mean nothing until the next election.

    • PROUD_TEXAN

      When they get to Washington they are forced to take a big gulp out of the Potomac. It’s a powerful potion of power.

  • MinistryofFear

    Another pimp of the Koch brothers.

  • TomasoPaine

    thank god Republicans are too stupid to follow Karl Rove:

    There is growing public support for providing a pathway to citizenship for those now in the country illegally. A February CBS/New York Times poll found 56% supported a pathway to citizenship for illegals, up from 38% in December 2007. Just 20% now say they should leave the country. An April Associated Press poll found 63% support a pathway, up from 50% in August 2010.

    Support for a pathway has grown most among Republicans. A January AP-GfK poll found 53% of Republicans now support it—up from 31% in 2010. (A Quinnipiac poll last week found support among Republicans at 39%.)

    ,,,, Immigration reform is now a gateway issue: Many Hispanics won’t be open to Republicans until it is resolved, which could take the rest of the year.

    • buffmuffin

      Man, Media Matters firing up the trolls again, they must be desperate to get this passed.

      • LabRat

        Was thinking the same thing. The trolls are out with their repetitive talking points.

      • Liliana Rawks

        Did you know a Soros funded group wrote most of Obamacare?

    • DrJayBee

      That doesn’t mean its a good idea, or good for the long-term well being of the US. Besides, do you really think the average American knows what just the economic cost would be? Yeah, you’re right, they don’t.

    • rich

      It will be the END of the Republican party if yet another amnesty is allowed. There is ZERO to show hispanics will vote majority Republican. The Republicans will never win California again in large part due to the massive changes. What a horrible message to send that YES, you can come here by the millions illegally and become a citizen. The Republicans are VERY lucky if they can squeeze 35% of the hispanic vote in an election. The black vote? Forget that. We have enough insane whites as it is that went 40% for this president. No, the only way is to radically change our immigration system to make it less anti white and European. And that is exactly what was done in 1965 to PURPOSELY change it all.

    • seadragon

      and those poles are worthy why? look at the sources. sorry but americans been fooled enough and lied to way too many times. the gov has 1.2 billion to spend on a nsa facility but yet refuses to secure the border. those poles mean nothing anymore just more rubbish from within.

    • pepe

      Rove and “W” were the first RINO Amnesty Traitors, Tomás (not Tomaso, BTW)

      GOP resistance to the nanny (socialist) state is the true “gateway” issue preventing Hispanics from supporting the GOP.

      Hispanics, like all Democrats, LOVE big government spending.

      Period. Or El Fin.

      • TomasoPaine

        You got my ethnicity wrong. Non hai capito proprio nulla.

    • pepe

      Where are u “Tomaso”???

      Donde te has metido, guëy?

      • TomasoPaine

        Tomaso e Italiano.

    • Liliana Rawks

      There are more recent polls that say otherwise. Why you usin’ those, Tommy? Been to the MSNBC school of propaganda?

      • TomasoPaine

        This article was from the Wall Street Journal. The more important point was that Rove understands long term Republican interests. As a Democrat, I am happy that he is ignored–but I don’t think that it is good for the country to have the Republicans on the road to ruin or for the country to update its immigration policy.

        • Liliana Rawks

          I didn’t take issue with where you got it, Tommy, I take issue with the DATE. READ AND PAY ATTENTION. K? For the record? It is EXCELLENT that the GOP is on the road to ruin. They are just the other side of the Dem coin. We don’t need a one party system, THAT will be the death of this country.

          • TomasoPaine

            I missed the date reference, but I don’t think that there has been much trend in polling on these numbers. I took the anti-MSNBC prattle as indicating that you did care about where things came from. What do you see as replacing the present party system?

    • belleruin

      Of course Republicans support a pathway to citizenship…the pathway all legal aliens took up to this point. Pollsters didn’t ask the right question. I support a pathway to citizenship…the same pathway my great grandparents took through Ellis Island.

  • TheRealTruth

    White women fell for the abortion lie for over 40 years and colored and muslim just kept breeding. Not a smart move long term.

    • Yeahright

      Except in the US
      “Among white women, there were 138 abortions for every 1,000 births. Among black women, the number rises to a dizzying 501 abortions. Hispanic women account for 25% of all US abortions,”

      • TheRealTruth

        I agree blacks had an astounding number of abortions, you are forgetting they also had an astounding number of births that white women did not.

        • Yeahright

          True but as I read your post it changes your topic from abortions to births.
          There you would be spot on.

          • TheRealTruth

            When I added the word breeding, that meant births.

          • Yeahright

            You said – “White women fell for the abortion lie for over 40 years”
            That sir/madam is not true.
            That was your premise. Not lower birth rates.

          • TheRealTruth

            the rest of my post was…AND colored and muslims just kept breeding, implying and rightfully so that whites did not.

          • Yeahright

            Honestly your sentence reads.
            Whites had more abortions while colored people kept having babies. Leading a reader to interpret your post to mean. That mostly whites are having abortions which is leading to their lower number in birth rates.
            Not a big deal but that’s how it comes off.

          • TheRealTruth

            This is an exact cut and paste, you’ll have to read it again.

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          • Yeahright

            Ok that was not needed but since you insist.

            Explain what “White women fell for the abortion lie for over 40 years..” means

          • Yeahright

            So you meant to end with the premise.
            Bad form.

          • TheRealTruth

            It means they thought they’d have a great life getting rid of unwanted pregnancies and postponing childbirth until late in life. The real result is modern women are a miserable lot, because they fell for the lie about not having the burden of a child and pursuing a career instead. For our country we have no replacement whites as the current older generations die off.

          • TheRealTruth

            All the while blacks, hispanics and muslims had a net gain in replacement births.

          • Liliana Rawks

            Blacks? You don’t pay attention much, do you?

          • TheRealTruth

            You don’t, you can have 5 abortions and 10 kids for a net gain of five kids. White women have not had replacement births. We already know this. So in about 2035 there will be an official stat saying whites are no longer a majority in the United States.

          • Liliana Rawks

            But Blacks won’t be the replacement. Their birth rate is lower than ours.

          • TheRealTruth

            Nevermind, live your life in bliss. Bye.

          • Liliana Rawks

            That simply isn’t true. When I marched and lobbied for abortion in the late 60s and early 70s it was for “safe, legal and RARE.” None of us ever expected it would end up like this. NONE of us even imagined late-term abortion. It wasn’t meant to be a form of birth control. Thank Planned Parenthood for what happened.

          • TheRealTruth

            If you marched for safe, legal and rare, then you fell for the lie too. Because mankind in all it’s history always goes to the worst extreme eventually.

  • freeman2night

    I don’t want reforms…I want deportations.

    • Neoconhater

      Obama has deported more people than any POTUS in recent history…live with the facts for a change…bagger.

      • pepe

        He’s counting illegals turned back at the border as “deportations.” Dishonest? Yes. Normal Demo behavior? Yes.

        Mainstream Media response? “Obama said it, must be true.”

        • Liliana Rawks

          Why don’t progressives know that? It’s been debunked all over the place yet they tenaciously hold on to it. How can one group of people be so woefully ignorant?

          • TheBruce

            Ignorance is all they have left.

          • pepe

            They only talk to themselves. And the mirror. And their bellybuttons (navels), etc.

          • Neoconhater

            And don’t forget we talk down to you lowlife regressive schmucks…don’t ever forget that fact.

          • pepe

            Neo, I thought we were gonna be friends ….

          • Neoconhater

            Sorry, we can still be sweet friends …bittersweet!

        • Neoconhater

          Quit watching Fox, it will surely make you dumber…if that’s possible.

          • Liliana Rawks

            Then you better tell the majority of cable news watchers. Libs and conservatives. . .they all watch fox.

          • pepe

            I live in Mexico.

            I don’t get Fox.

            Former Presidente Fox just came out for drug legalization. Is that what you mean?

          • Neoconhater

            Smart man.

          • pepe

            I agree!

          • Neoconhater

            Yep, prohibitions of any kind have never worked and never will, human nature always prevails ….always.
            Black market associated with said prohibitions are ALWAYS stifled or done away with when prohibitions end…always.

          • pepe

            Neo, I agree completely.

            Down here, ( I wasn’t kidding) we just lived through a week where 25 were killed in narco violence in the state.

          • Neoconhater

            No reason for all that violence when prohibition could end…eh??!
            I do like your country, Mexico is a fantastic country!!. Much better when El Chapo is gone!!

      • TheBruce

        Apparently you don’t know the difference between an actual deportation and when someone is caught crossing the border and turned back.

        Don’t worry, keep your snout in the trough and slop it up. Good news — something special’s coming down the trough tonight. I hear Øbama had CORN!!! Bon appetit.

        • Neoconhater

          Just more xenophobic drooling slobbering on yourself tea bagger drivel.
          At least you’re good at something..eh?

          • TheBruce

            Tell mom to get you a vocabulary for your birthday. Nothing in my posted suggested anything xenophobic — you don’t know my view on that subject because I haven’t expressed one.

            The point you obviously missed is that turning someone back when caught at the border isn’t a deportation.

            By the way, it shows quite a lack of intelligence on your part when you have to resort to using the sexual slang of a thirteen year old.

  • The End is Near

    I suppose next the USA will elect a homosexual transvestite horse as President.

    Rumblings of Hillary Clin ton/ Caroline Kennedy ticket. We’ve had it!!

    • seadragon

      why not we already have squirrels!

    • PROUD_TEXAN

      We already have the homosexual.

    • belleruin

      Couldn’t do any worse.

    • TheRealTruth

      Hillary is two out of three.

  • Randy Rogers

    Not only no – hell no! A RUINOUS plan. RINOs do not care what the people want. Vote the bums out.

  • dave5494

    Ah, the end of the G.O.P. can’t win on the big stage, party is split in half , moderates and extremists, just keep the hate alive.

    • The End is Near

      GOP can’t beat the 225 million moochers that need entitlements to live.

      • dave5494

        The moochers are in red states.

        • The End is Near

          Moochers are everywhere, especially ALL cities that have more than 1,000 persons.

        • FXRP

          You got that wrong dave. The red states vote against democrats almost across the borad. The blue state are the ones with the no information voters (moochers).

        • Liliana Rawks

          Gasp! California went RED?????????????????????

    • Yeahright

      Don’t be so gleeful.
      The Dem party is falling at the same rate.

      • LabRat

        Don’t bother feeding the trolls, they’re not worth your time.

    • PROUD_TEXAN

      Just remember, my AK-47 is loaded if you step onto my property if you achieve your commie utopia.

      • dave5494

        You are a coward, stay on your property if you know what is good for you.

        • buffmuffin

          rot in hell, lib.

      • Neoconhater

        Talk is cheap….Mr.teaKlown..coward.

        • PROUD_TEXAN

          Step on my property uninvited commiecrat. You’ll find castle laws in Texas are a little different in the great state of TEXAS you puke.

          • Neoconhater

            Hey, I m not a Texan….but I m very PROUD to give birth to one every morning……flush twice ,,,it a long way to planet Wingnuttia!

    • Neoconhater

      The schism is alive and well….they’re a bunch of stupid teaKlowns anyway….chumps!

    • Liliana Rawks

      You don’t seem to understand that most of us here WANT the end of the GOP.

  • DrJayBee

    How about every other session, Congress conducts its business in the Midwest, like Omaha, St. Paul, Fargo, etc. Get them away from the freaking “inside the beltway crowd” and all the lobbyists. It might help if Congress spent more time among real Americans….

  • Keith

    I didn’t hear border security in that

  • SalMoanella

    Hey Ryan, when the votes aren’t coming in, it’s probably the conservatives you betrayed with your amnesty.

    20 million under and unemployed Americans and this tool wants to legalize foreign, law breaking, job thieves. It’s time to oust all RINO’s or just vote dem and get it over with. At least the reset will come sooner.

  • seadragon

    i would trust mr snowden with my life before any politician these days. their word means nothing. we see their actions everday . its mind bogling what they get away with and yet no media reports so whos bought and paid for?

  • jerry

    Ryan will NEVER get another vote from me or from anyone I know. He is toast! He has no courage, is caught up in his own aura, and is noting more than a pandering politcan. In case a reader may wonder, I am a conservative, who voted for him in the last election. Never again!

    • PROUD_TEXAN

      Can you imagine the deer in the headlight look of the rest, if we can take several of these upper leadership girly men down?

  • http://smallthoughtsfromasmallmind.wordpress.com/ Charles Kirtley

    I’m glad to see it will be considered before the next election so we know who to vote out of office.

  • Lore Earll

    shamnesty squatters rights. How did unfettered, unregulated immigration work out for the American Indian?? These fascist republicans are going to have some SERIOUS questions to answer. First and foremost WHY IN THE HELL WOULD YOU VOTE FOR A BILL THAT THE CBO SAYS WILL RESULT IN DECLINING WAGES FOR AMERICANS FOR A MINIMUM OF 12 YEARS!

  • seadragon

    immigration reform is another oppurtunity for the money hungry greedy theives to come out and play. while us citizens pay for it.

  • dave5494

    Ryan is done, his only future may be with Fox news.

    • Lyman_Sweetwater

      More like MSNBC or CNN

      • dave5494

        They have standards, Ryan is not qualified. Fox has no standards , Palin proved that.

        • Lyman_Sweetwater

          I bet your breath smells like uranus…

    • Bob Coco

      Nope, they don’t want him either

  • dbt3481

    I am done witht the party. Without the base your zeros. Bye bye RINO scum.

  • FXRP

    Illegal – Why is it that only the American pepole understand the meaning of this word? It appears that no one in Washington does or even cares. We have no one in government that is listening to the people or protecting them. Never in history has the government’s overreach of power been this bad.
    We are no longer living in America. Trust no one.

    • The Kirby’s

      Read up on Soro’s ‘Open Borders’ and how many horrific orgs/trolls he finances. And while you are in a reading mood, read up on Cloward/Piven…..and then read Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”. Then it all makes sense. We are under attack and being ‘buried from within’. You see it everyday in every way.

  • Yougetalife

    Great job trying to save your failed party ryan.

    Toss those ignorant cons under the bus.

    • gene456

      Why in the world do you gay men eat each others’ doo-doo? That’s DISGUSTING!!!

      • Neoconhater

        So you lied to me when you said it tasted great!!??
        Mean Gene!!

        • gene456

          Nope, not me. I’m NORMAL.

  • http://thevailspot.blogspot.com/ Rich Vail

    NO AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!! I lost my job to 2 illegal from Peru because my former employer didn’t have to pay taxes of any sort on them. He knows he can get away with thisbecause Fairfax Co, VA is a “sanctuary” county that refuses to enforce ANY form of immigration laws.

    http://thevailspot.blogspot.com/2013/07/laid-off.html

  • Bob White

    Ryan and Rubio sitting in a tree
    P i s s i n g – on our country, the turncoats.

  • Wilchbla

    Another GOP fraud.

  • Humidifier

    Why have a border fence or Border Patrol? All of our so called leaders are intent on letting illegals just stroll in and squat. This country has gone down the drain.

  • Yougetalife

    They are telling you ignorant cons to get a grip.

    You got crushed twice morons.

    • Liliana Rawks

      And the two elections before that? Who got crushed then?

      • Yougetalife

        Strike three and the gop disband.

        • Liliana Rawks

          God, I hope so. I’m doing my part to make sure it happens. Until they run a conservative, most of us will work to bring down the GOP

    • buffmuffin

      yeah.. 51% of 54% ‘crushed’… LOL

      8 million fewer people who voted republican in 2008 voted in 2012… Obama won by only 4 million votes.

      7 million fewer democrats voted..

      Conservatives sat out 2012 to protest Liberal Romney being the candidate.

      Had just half the voters from 2008 showed up, you would have lost.

      Had the Republicans run a conservative, you would have lost.

    • gene456

      While Booga-Booga did manage to win both times, neither victory could be characterized as a “landslide”.

  • Bob White

    Is Ted Cruz the only one with any backbone and focus these days?

    • TheBruce

      Unfortunately, yes. Even Rand Paul is starting to cave on issues.

      • Liliana Rawks

        He caved months ago. Cruz, Grassley and maybe one or two others are all we have. Doesn’t exactly instill a lot of confidence, right?

  • ferryman

    I find that Mexico has an excellent policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, displaced undocumented travelers and temporarily unsubstantiated migrant workers. The US should model it’s policy upon that.

  • Perplexed

    Why are our elected leaders spending so much precious time on creating a new bill for illegal immigration?

    Enforce the laws that are currently on the books. Arrest employers who hire illegal immigrants. Double the size of the southern border defenses.

    Seems to me the only thing that would be necessary is the funding for the additional border agents.

    What are our elected leaders up to?

    • DarnShwead

      My guess is millions more draftable males for the next war, Why else would “bomb,bomb,bomb….Iran” McCain be on board.

  • I BarKahn

    It’s a shame that Ryan doesn’t know that Obama can be legally removed from office just for being ineligible and for being unable to provide proof of U.S citizenship; it’s a shame, a real shame, isn’t it?

    • Yougetalife

      Damn, a birther.

      D bag.

      • buffmuffin

        ahh i *knew * it was Media Matters, I remember your accounts from the election.

        Soros pumping in more money to activate the troll accounts again, eh?

        • Neoconhater

          The Soros jive..eh?
          LOL!Stupid baggers….

        • Yougetalife

          Yes.

      • I BarKahn

        The only “D bag” here is on your shoulders; can you put a hat on it?

      • Liliana Rawks

        For once I agree with you. I thought birthers went away. It’s like looking at a relic, isn’t it?

  • Ubwart

    Yup, yet another rhino republican selling out the country he took an oath to defend. The illegals are criminals. I say we “rally” on the capital and throw the bums out. None or damn few of these bozos understand that their duty is to the constitution and the American Citizen not to foreigners no matter how long they have been here or how bad they want to come.

  • DarnShwead

    Treason…Anybody who supports this is a traitor to the American people and should be dealt with accordingly.

  • Oilfart1

    His star has gone supernova and is burnt out. I am so disappointed the guy on the 2012 presidential ticket as the conservative member has turned more liberal than John McCain.

  • LeeO

    what a dork.

  • The End is Near

    Create a prison the entire length of the border.

    First fence the borderline with a shoddy Home Depot fence, then a mile in, fence again, this time boobytrapped and high voltage.

    Place landmines within the bufferzone and allow the Air Force to do strafing and bombing runs, allow DHS to do drone missile firing, allow the Army to do whatever they please to all illegals captured.

    A win-win for all.

    • The Kirby’s

      Our Constitution does not allow for a ‘standing army’. Abolish Fed Education system. Abolish the DHS. Have the ‘border’ states like AZ and TX protect their borders as they see fit, since the Fed won’t.

  • Yougetalife

    You should know by now they load up the spending on bills that pass because they failed to pass a budget.

  • earldumarest

    Rising star in the GOP? LOL, ‘This idiot has killed his future.

  • Ronald G Miner Jr

    2 words…Torches and Pitchforks…OK that’s technically 3 words…you get the idea..

  • Hilltex

    I’m encouraging my Rep. to cut the current House ” Leadership” loose & find some replacements who still stand on principle & the rule of law & put America’s interests first. A tall order I know..

  • Sun Desy

    Really. He could not get thru a debate without sucking water 10 times. Now he is loud talking about comprehensive immigration. Loser.

  • Yougetalife

    The gop are divided, conquered, leaderless with no new ideas. Their ideology failed so they are desperately lashing out like two year old babies.

  • Twoiron

    Ding dong, the GOP’s dead. Long live the Tea Party!

    • Neoconhater

      Same thing, the tea baggers = the same old moronic regressive republiKlowns.

      • Twoiron

        I didn’t know they let low-information voters post here.

        • Neoconhater

          Feel free to go elsewhere then, plenty of LIV places for you to go play little child.

          Maybe go all in…..move to your regressive utopia ,…North Korea!

        • Liliana Rawks

          They just woke up. Mom’s making them dinner so they have a few minutes to play on the internet.

        • rimpy

          proof you are one

      • rimpy

        shut up euro-marxist-globalist toxic pig (democrat)

        • Neoconhater

          Squirm bagger, squirm.
          You slobber and then squirm like a teaKlown maggot, pure comedy gold!
          LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

          • gene456

            Go back to the bathhouse, fruit.

          • Neoconhater

            Do you miss me already!!?
            I told you not to tell anyone, I m a restroom republiKlown, stall number one honey bunch!

          • gene456

            Nope, I’m not gay. I’m normal, like the vast majority of Republicans. Unlike Democruds, we don’t support NAMBLA-supporting fruits who are terrified of women and dodge-ball.

    • buffmuffin

      Soros just injected another 200 million into Media Matters to fund trolls again, i see.

      • Neoconhater

        Where did you learn that teaKlown tripe….Beck University?
        Drooling TeaBircher Studies?

      • Liliana Rawks

        Then you better count me in with Twoiron. I long for the day the current GOP is dead and buried. I am conservative and loathe George Soros.

  • Robert Smith

    another crap guy!!!!!!!!!!!I should run

  • earldumarest

    Burn in He77 you dam traitor.

  • DarnShwead

    Millions more draftable males for the next war, Why else would “bomb,bomb,bomb….Iran” McCain be on board.

  • bnchy

    There are so few Republicans I trust any more when they “say” they’re Conservatives

  • Scott Hanson

    If Americans are stupid or coward enough to keep paying taxes after The Ruling Class signs us up to pay for 11-50 million more moochers, we deserve to be treated like slaves. The Ruling Class were given the choice between dishonor and war. Having chosen dishonor they will now have war.

    • Liliana Rawks

      Time for a REAL tea party doncha think? I am more than a little tired of paying for American moochers ad now I’m supposed to pay for the rest of the third world as well?

    • TomasoPaine

      Most people who run the numbers see legalization as helping the economy. http://public.cq.com/docs/weeklyreport/weeklyreport-000004178908.html

      • Liliana Rawks

        Actually, even the CBO said that it will decimate AMERICANS for the first 12 years. Get your head out of your a##. How on earth can low income, uneducated people HELP our economy? Do you know that a DECADE after the ’86 amnesty, the average amnestied illegal had a 7th grade education and made $10,000? That means earned income credit, medicaid, SNAP, welfare, etc.

        Ever hear of PRAVDA? THAT is what you’re believing.

        • TomasoPaine

          I looked up the most recent CBO estimate, http://www.cbo.gov/publication/44397 and it says:
          CBO and JCT estimate that enacting S. 744, as passed by the Senate, would generate changes in direct spending and revenues that would decrease federal budget deficits by $158 billion over the 2014-2023 period (see Table 1, enclosed with this letter). CBO also estimates that implementing the legislation would result in net discretionary costs of $23 billion over the 2014-2023 period, assuming appropriation of the amounts authorized or otherwise needed to implement the legislation. Combining those figures would lead to a net savings of about $135 billion over the 2014-2023 period from enacting S. 744.

          Where is the decimation here? What am I missing?

  • john

    Gop seems intent on suicide. This will give the tea party the chance they sorely need. The GOP are desperate misguided fools.

  • TheLiberalEater

    Get this you Republiturds…WE are sick and tired of you Rhino’s We want men with conviction, not jellyfish who quiver at every new poll and kiss Obungo’s butt. Take a good hard look at Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Alan West. They have a rabid following and the rabid following is growing stronger while your reliance on the “R” behind your name to get you votes wanes. The Republican party is fading into obscurity and YOU are the reason. If we wanted spineless, freak loving, constitution-hating, scumbags, we’d vote democrat. Wake UP!!!

    • Twoiron

      “If we wanted spineless, freak loving, constitution-hating, scumbags, we’d vote democrat.”

      Heck, we’d each vote democrat three or four times, just like the democrats do.

  • dimbulbz

    530 cowards and traitors. Four defenders of liberty. Sounds like a fair fight. I’m turning in my R card. I will only vote for people who aren’t out to destroy our country and I wont give a nickel to the RNC. I wonder how long they will continue to hang on to a majority in the house. They don’t act like leaders, unless you think running for the hills is leadership. We had a good run. Now its Communists versus progressive leftists. No, they are not conservatives, they have totally conceded a balanced budget that just 15 months ago, Ryan was touting as the road to the future. He was lying then, and now he’s just hoping to become a star. That’s what this country needs, more stars.

    • john

      We have been voting better of two evils for way too long…time to vote for the truth…libertarian.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lou.bethel.1 Lou Bethel

    Your GOD of media television, movies, and music has destroyed you. You have destoyed marriage in Western Society through divorce, child support, free love, and the promotion of Womens Liberation.
    Your societies are dying.
    Meanwhile, Islam, China, and Mexicans coming across the border to get food stamps, afdc, wic, medicare, medicaid, college aid, and programs they never PAID into are growing.
    Answer, because they believe in having children.
    You killed the WEST through your LOVE for abortion.
    You reap what you have sown……

  • storibund

    According to Public Policy Polling:

    Rubio was at 21 or 22% on all of our polls between January and March but his support has now dropped to half that level.

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/07/paul-cruz-rising-for-2016.html

    Get ready for that, Ryan, because it’s headed your way.

    .

  • PatrickJT

    Here’s the Paul Ryan Timetable: You’re done on January 3, 2015.

  • Louie

    Cowardly little boy.

  • gene456

    Better start looking for a job as a new car salesman, Ryan. Your Presidential chances are now zero.

  • Daniel Petry

    It’s time. Time to advocate for the destruction of the cancer that has infected DC. Sedition? Yep. Gladly. Not now but soon.

  • bornelk

    Citizenship for criminals.

  • old409

    The immigration policy is another step towards implementing FTAA.

    http://www.stoptheftaa.org/ Read it and weep. We have been sold out.

  • Time To Hesitate Is Through

    PAUL RYAN = PAUL RINO
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  • john

    GOP folded like a house of cards. Amnesty was a flop for GOP in 1986 and will be the same now. What are they smoking??? I wish we had some conservatives that were strong.

  • ChipsterNGA

    Somebody got to Ryan. Probably nsa or irs surveillance of some sort. Why would he do this otherwise? Why? Ask yourself.

  • FetusesMasturbate

    Zimmerman is a big, fat chicken sh it p u s s y just like you and the rest of the tea bag gun hoarders.

    Go f u c k your mothers

    • civilwarsoon

      it’ll be nice to see 80 million Armed Americans shoot down the democrst enemy in the streets .. run and hide little girl

      • Neoconhater

        Yeah, how charming of you to say that.
        Are you a charm school graduate as well?

      • FetusesMasturbate

        meh, not so much. You guys always end up shooting your own kids, or they shoot each other. It is so damned funny, I piss myself laughing every time I read one of those stories.

        How many members of your family have you shot?

      • FetusesMasturbate

        Look, its civilwarsoon going shopping:

        http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephania/196818470/

        • civilwarsoon

          how do you have room for you and your fat daddy in the same bed ? now run along target before you wake the rest of your trailer park

          • FetusesMasturbate

            Wow, for people who call others “deviants,” you sure do have a sick imagination. Wonder where this stems from?

    • N Martinez

      Guess you would know about that…

      • FetusesMasturbate

        Is ted nugent your hero? Yeah, just like you and civilwarsoon, too much of a p u s s y to fight in vietnam.

        P u s s ies..

    • RoninMaximus

      your eloquence and extraordinary display of intelligence is quite impressive. I wonder: are you capable of a single critical thought without having firtst been given it by others, and then enumerating it with the gutter filth that apparently passes for your conversational language?

    • Condor30303

      And Drank Drinkin Trayvon is dead.

      • FetusesMasturbate

        and you celebrate it why?

        Since when is buying skittles a death penalty offense? If that is “christian” no thank you.

        How many of your family members have you accidentaly shot?

        • Condor30303

          Since none of them have bashed my head into the pavement, the answer would be none. None of them have even been suspended from school, posted gang stuff on Facebook, punched bus drivers, or tried to illegally buy a gun either. Hell, none of them have been part of a choom gang either. My relatives are boring people who go to school or work.

  • SRussell55

    After 40 years of giving to GOP, not one more penny. If you vote for this then you will get no votes.

    • john

      Well put, I feel the same way. GOP is now Dem light.

  • nocab

    How these politicians pander to these latino groups is disgusting are they the only immigrants illegal or not in America . Looks like la raza is paying out the big bucks , maybe they can sell another election to them .

  • LouAnnWatson

    what a sack…f u build the wall and enforce the laws on the books, you rino traitor. why don’t you just become a damn democrat, you weasel

  • Dead Himmler

    This is all about racism and EVERYBODY knows it. I’m tired of all this racism in this country. I have been FORCED to get disabilty and I havent had a job in five years because of racist bosses. Race relations in this country is actually the most important issue. This is exactly why reparations should be on the table. The Reparations Bill 464 should be pushed through with the executive order. $9,000.00 per African American per year along with current assistance is a good start. I think it would change things for the better including reducing white guilt and helping the economy. It would be a demand side push for the economy. Taxes are historically low and need to rise significantly to jump start the economy. A bank tax of 8% on accounts over $25,000 would be more than appropriate to pay for it. I know that if I receive more from the government I will spend more. See how that works?? This country owes our people a huge debt and it’s about time we took it back!!!!!

    • RoninMaximus

      keep believing, brother. It’s all about racism. In fact, America invented racism, didn’t it? You’re entitled to it, so by God you should have…reparations and all. You know nothing except what you’ve rationalized in your mind… abject ignorance; and, willful ignorance – or, perhaps it is more in line with reckless disregard of history and the law is what appears to inform your opinion.

      • Dead Himmler

        Doesn’t matter what you think. YOU will still owe money. The wounds of slavery reach into this generation only with African Americans. FACT. Sorry but that’s the way it is. Life is not fair sometimes. You also sound a very racist to me!!!!!!

    • skeagles67

      I fear a black man will break into your house tonight and rape and murder your wife and daughter while you sleep. He will then steal all your valuables as reparations. Sorry for you hombre.

      • Dead Himmler

        Hello my old friend.

  • Artcraft Printing

    Just another criminal.

  • N Martinez

    Ryan is not a rising star. He’s a falling terd. His career is OVER. What a snake! What a liar! And I voted for the little piece of crap. TRAITOR!

  • john

    Sad to see the GOP go this route…I have stood by them for decades but they appear to be slow learners…time to move on.

  • civilwarsoon

    ryan and romney turned out to be wuss losers, they had the change to gut obammy like a stuck commie pig and took the “high ground” he can’t save himself now

  • larrybudwiser

    To quote the immortal Ren (of Ren and Stimpy Fame) and is slight reference to the late President Regan, “Mr. Ryan, don’t whiz on the electric fence, you Idiot!”
    Thank you very much

  • ManOnPoint

    No Amnesty!!! Not now, not ever!!!

  • ocean

    The Democrat immigration bill lets half the population
    of Mexico into America to take your jobs. Democrat
    politicians support illegal aliens not Americans.
    Liberal Zombies voted for these Democrat politicians.

  • Lew

    Unfortunately, our country has a two-party system. On the domestic issues, the parties have a huge divide. Spent more for the poor (Democrats) or personal responsibility (Republicans).

    On immigration, why do the Democrats want to push this subject? The unemployment rate is 7.6%. This percentage is the people still on unemployment. Not the people who exhausted their benefits or thus gave up looking for work. The REAL unemployment number is much higher

    The questions I have:
    1. Will these immigrates made enough to pay Federal taxes?
    2. Will these immigrates force school distracts to teach bi-lingual classes?
    3. Are the new immigrates, eligible for the safety net (welfare, food stamps, etc.)..

    The Democrats KNOW they have the Black community in their back pocket. They need another race to vote for them. When the 30+ million illegals become citizens, who picks up the costs? The answer is the taxpayers.

  • libsrsohateable

    Uh…Ryan is a POS sell-out who is trading people who would vote for him, for people who wouldn’t DARE. And we the people aren’t calling out for amnesty, we’re calling out for these aholes to enforce the laws already on the g.d. books!!! Why would we “call” for amnesty and lost jobs??? Who bloody cares if these illegals get “separated” from their families??? They are CRIMINALS and should be booted out of this country! Republicans should change their party name to Republitards. They are just dumb as a party…

  • ocean

    Illegal aliens are Foreign Nationals. These
    Foreign Nationals are criminals because they
    have entered the USA illegally.

  • LOL

    Ryan the RINO can go blow himself………

  • Pedro Gonzales

    Ryan and GOP Wimps, listen up……..Finish the fence and guard it!….Deport the illegals here now…Also prosecute employers who hire illegals. …After that then we can talk about immigration reform. However, why is not existing law not being enforced and why do we need more law when the existing law is not being enforced? Oh, you can’t answer that one?

    Answer me this……Why can’t Mexicans come here under worker permit instead of entering illegally?

    Do these things and life will be much simpler. Otherwise you won’t be on the public dole any more.

  • Jeff

    Ryan is a sleazeball. He’s undermining conservatives to curry favor with big business donors who want cheap labor.

  • skeagles67

    RINO Ryan’s through.

    • Jeff

      Those establishment douches in Wisconsin will re-elect him. Just like McCain in AZ.

      • skeagles67

        That’s as far as he’ll ever go. There are no Republicans in Wisconsin, and apparently very few in AZ.

        • Wild Hog

          There are plenty of Republicans in Wisconsin, just not in his district. He is doing what he thinks will keep him in office. They elected him to help his district economically, but on social issues, he will toe the democrat line. That’s what always worried me about him.

  • big_conservative

    Just as we all knew they would, the non-Conservatives in the House are going to hang the country out to dry and cave on Obamnesty.

    True to form. The Republican party is dead. Enjoy 1 party Socialist rule in the new USSA.

    • FetusesMasturbate

      Immigration is at net zero and the current bill quadruples the amount of border agents and builds a fence.

      • big_conservative

        If you think they’re going to actually add border agents OR build ANY fence, you are dangerously naive.

        Each and every time they’ve promised that, they’ve NEVER followed through on it. Not ONCE. And you think they’ll somehow miraculously do it this time?

        Wow, no wonder we’re swirling down the toilet bowl as a nation.

        • FetusesMasturbate

          Do you even know what is in the bill? Apparently not.

          • big_conservative

            I know the CBO says that it will basically only slow the rate of illegal entries into the US by 25%. And I don’t care what kind of “penalties” they put on the new “path” to citizenship, it’s still AMNESTY.

            The other FACT is that they have NEVER secured the border, ALL the other times they’ve “promised” to do it. This time is no different.
            1) The new “immigration” system won’t even significantly slow the rate of illegals coming into the country.
            2) STILL won’t secure the border.
            3) Won’t add very many new tax payers to the system because the vast majority of the new “citizens” don’t make enough to even qualify to PAY income taxes.
            4) All this means 30 to 50 million new “citizens” (11 million is complete BS). And in 10 years, they’ll have to do it all over again for the next “batch” of illegals, to get THEM “out of the shadows”.

            All while costing the tax payers, the ACTUAL tax payers, hundreds of billions, even trillions more to support the new “citizens”.

      • Cismaworld

        Net Zero? My gosh some people are lacking. The added border and fence is over the next 20 years and at the discretion of the head of the HSA.

  • Jeff

    The Only Rising star in the republican party that I know is Ted Cruz. He’s the one that I see taking the fight to leftists. Guys like Ryan simply capitulate to the left.

    Ryan is a rising star in the Democrat party.

    • LOL

      Don’t forget Rand.

      He is being alienated for a reason.

      They are scared of him.

  • Pedro Gonzales

    Ryan and fellow GOP Wimps…….Enforce present law and finish a guarded fence or……..or…….you will be facing a revolution in a short time. Dig back into the history of the 19th century and see what happened when a major issue was not fixed …and compromise happened over and over………….war!
    Events will over take you and sweep you away! You people are nuts for trying to compromise with destroying the Nation.

  • arcsinice

    Stay at their throats patriots. Stay at their throats!

  • knighttemplar01

    So much for ryan, cantor and any other fool that pushes this crap on the American people. You’d better hope the Hispanics and illegals vote for you, because the rest of sure as hell won’t. I’d like to know what the NSA has on
    all the turncoat, sellout republicans? It must be good. By the way want a subtle hint about how this is going to turn out, look at rubio’s polling, crash and burn!

    • chevalmarin

      I;m hoping the rest of them will take the hint from Rubio’s falling star.

  • DeeDee1213

    So after all the B.S. it really just all boils down to ALLOWING Illegals to become citizens and to have Our rights and freedoms. Its never been about Work Permits, never been about anything else other than..making Illegals Full Fledged Citizens of the good ole USA. All the years wasted of Not securing the borders, when in reality , they all knew exactly what their agenda was. RUIN the USA, because we cant take care of our own Citizens and now they will make Illegals citizens and further Burden our Country, all over future voters and making sure we welcome them will all the handouts we can give….Im so fed up with Politics , and their hidden agenda’s and not Seeking to Help nor protect the USA..its getting Disgusting. And lets not forget the “Mexican Nationals in our Prison systems, make sure they get all the Goodies as well……………Dream act was voted down, and its just gonna be jammed in our faces.. I foresee, that soon..we wont have any voting rights ever, we will just sit and take what the Feds dish out

  • bigdaddy

    NO WAY RINO.

  • Jeff

    One thing is for sure. I’m glad Ryan didn’t get in the white house. Guys like he and Rubio did us all a favor showing their true stripes early on. Time to clean house next primary season.

  • Jeff

    When asked for Comment Boehner cried.
    He then blew Obama.

  • Enjoying Life

    This is just more proof that the deal to pass the senate version of the immigration bill is ready to be forced through with the help of Ryan and other – the republican leadership team in the house will make the deal – passage will not hurt their chances of retaining their position in DC – it will erode the middle class and destroy what is left of those in the lower economic class – please contact your representative and let them know you are watching – don’t pass this bill..

  • sbenard

    I predict the end of the GOP if they do this. Can you say, “Whig”, Mr. Ryan?

  • White Bear

    As soon as Romney picked Ryan as a running mate we should have seen the writing on the wall. He’s no different than the other RINOS. Give us Cruz, Lee and Paul any day.

  • Conservagrl

    Dear Republican Party, for future reference please make sure to send all letters that are solicitations for money to the illegals you want to give Amnesty to because this bank account is closed!

  • Sueychop

    Catch a falling star, Ryan’s falling fast…

  • sbenard

    If they do this, conservatives will bolt the GOP. Ryan and others figure that conservatives have “no place else to go”, so they don’t care if they disenfranchise them. They take them for granted. They will destroy their own party — and themselves — in the process.

    • Anonamous Guy

      And destroy America in the precess. We need a new party.

    • chevalmarin

      I’m all for abandoning the aholes and going Constitutional Party. Why do we bother supporting them? When was the last time they were looking out for us?

  • ron

    Don’t we already have an interior law? Isn’t it called any person entering the country illegally shall be deported? Why do we need another? The only bill that needs to be voted on is the border security the rest is bull.

  • raffaro

    The split between party line is a mirage for the purpose of dividing the masses, Senators especially the newly elected one’s learn quickly or are instructed before they get there, On TOWING THE LINE those who are Mavericks Like Bachmann (who at this very moment faces an ethics investigation)are tossed into a storm of rebuke, Character assassination and false allegations to discredit them and force them to leave. But guys like Rubio, Ryan are propelled to the top and it’s not because they have you in their best interest.

  • tmorro

    No. NO NO NO. No. No. No. What happened to the party of no? wish they were around now. No amnesty, no debt ceiling raising, no. NO. Enforce the laws on the books. They are Laws, ferxristssakes.

  • Bob White

    One of the youngest of the Filthy Fourteen. His creepy old mentor, McCain has taught him well.

  • yerbullshit

    Freakin’ traitor!! Time to get RID of all those bastards who refuse to uphold our constitution.

  • Anonamous Guy

    I smell another shyt sandwich for dinner coming….

  • OIFAlumni

    Why is that when Republicans have control of the House or Senate they vote like Democrats?

  • chris

    Why are these US representatives voting for legislation that will benefit criminal aliens and cost US tax payers hundreds of billions of dollars a year? This is a fact.

    • chevalmarin

      BIg donor money promises from companies claiming they need those highly skilled foreigners. I worked in high tech for years and the most talented high tech people weren’t foreigners although the foreigners would work long hours if they were given a free evening meal.

    • Wild Hog

      Because the MSM is telling them that’s what the American people want. And they are blindly following their advice.

  • Bob White