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August 1, 2014

No Plans for Canada Invasion, Pentagon Leader Says

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Man without a plan: Dempsey testifies during a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on March 5. (Bill Clark/CQ Roll Call)

Wednesday’s hearing of the Senate Appropriations Defense Subcommittee was informative on a great many serious subjects. It also revealed that the United States isn’t prepared to take aggressive action against its looming menace to the north, according to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Dan Coats, R-Ind., was asking about how prepared the military was to act in Iraq. “Based on my previous service in the Senate and some service now, I’m totally aware that the Pentagon has a contingency plan on the shelf for just about every possible scenario, everything from nuclear war to an invasion by Canada, and everything in between,” he said, per the transcript by CQ.com.

Answered Gen. Martin E. Dempsey:

“Let me first assure you we do not have a plan on the shelf for the invasion of Canada. I want to make sure that our Canadian allies, who may be watching…

(CROSSTALK)

(LAUGHTER)”

The Obama administration has previously denied any secret plan to invade Canada, but this is the first public admission that it has no blueprint to be able to do so if needed.

If Dempsey is to be believed — and some Canadians have assumed that the U.S. military has just such a plan on the shelf — he is ignoring military history. The United States found cause to invade Canada in 1775 and 1812, then developed War Plan Red in the 1920s and 30s, which contemplated a potential invasion of Canada. And as recently as 1999, a bloody, near-apocalyptic (fictional) war with Canada broke out.

No word on whether the United States has a plan to defend itself should Canada invade U.S. soil, so there’s no need just yet for American citizens to emotionally brace themselves for a stampede of moose-riding, maple syrup-guzzling Mounties to become our new overlords.

  • http://none.com Jack Everett

    lol talk about wing nut nonsense.

    • zornwil

      Tea Party being relevant to this article how? And “wing nut” re this light-hearted article how?

  • Alan

    Well that’s a relief.

  • Frank Oliveri

    One important distinction: Coats spoke of an “invasion BY Canada.” Gen. Dempsey said the US had no plans to invade Canada. They are not the same thing. ;)

    • freetickles

      Which means he totally has an off-the-shelf plan for defending an invasion by Canada. Probably one for a zombie attack, too.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0kbHaulvRg Lieutenant Dan

    We have to spy on those crazy bastards, I don’t like their beer and they suck at hockey.

    • Paul Bronfman

      How I lost my fear of Universal Health Care: When I moved to Canada in 2008, I was a die-hard
      conservative Republican. So when I found
      out that we were going to be covered by Canada’s Universal Health Care, I
      was somewhat disgusted. I believed based
      on my politics that government mandated health care was a violation of my
      freedom.

      Fast forward a little past the Canadian births of my third
      and fourth babies. I had better prenatal
      care than I had ever had in the States.
      I started to feel differently about Universal government mandated and
      regulated Health care. When health care
      is universal, doctors are free to recommend and provide the best care for every
      patient instead of basing their care on what each patient can afford.

      I realized how many times my family had avoided hospital care
      in the USA
      because of our lack of coverage.

      http://www.patheos.com/blogs/permissiontolive/2012/07/how-i-lost-my-fear-of-universal-health-care.html

      • Darth Kenyan

        Stay in Canada, you’re a welfare rat.

        • zornwil

          You’l need to draw the lines of how he or she is necessarily a “welfare rat,” if you’re going to hurl insults at people like that. Or simply disagree instead of resorting to insults.

          • Darth Kenyan

            alternatively, I could just ignore recommendations from fudge-packin Canadians, like you.

      • zornwil

        I didn’t think that the notion of freedom had anything to do with quality of service? I didn’t think the criticism of the ACA or other federal schema was around whether people would be better off; to me, that’s irrelevant.

        That said, don’t get me wrong, I’m certainly happy for you!

      • Richard Nixon

        Who the hell cares? That’s unrelated to the comment you’re replying to, attention seeker.

        And I have no problems with the healthcare in the US. It’s your own fault your family lacked coverage. Most jobs supply it.

        • carry a big stick

          Lies !! Most job do not provide health insurance !! How much do you pay for prescription drugs. I pay $2 for each prescription I have filled . How much do you pay ? $100 ? $200 ? You Americans live in a fool’s paradise !!!

          • Tim Dermody

            SEND EM TO CANADA!
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      • JRSCline

        Your high Canadian taxes include your (involuntary) healthcare insurance premiums.

        • carry a big stick

          And your high AMERICAN taxes include the right to die because you can’t afford a doctor !

          • JRSCline

            I don’t have high taxes. I pay 7.5% income tax, thanks to home ownership and a number of other deductions that no Canadian can claim. I also have great health insurance through my employer, like the vast majority of Americans.

            I get that Canadians need something to distinguish themselves from Americans, but don’t fool yourself – there are no freebies from government.

          • carry a big stick

            And what about the 30,000,000 Americans that don’t have employer heath insurance ? What about the 35,000,000 unemployed Americans ? And what about all those Americans who lost everything in 2008 sub-prime meltdown? You are living in a fool’s paradise !!!

          • JRSCline

            No one said it was paradise. Just glad it’s not Canada.

          • carry a big stick

            Not half as glad as I am. In Canada I can get medical care no matter where I am in Canada. And I wont lose my medical insurance , if I have any , when I lose my job. But hey, you have the choice to not have medical insurance . You have the choice to die . And no one will ever take that away from you. Poor stupid YANKEES !!!

          • JRSCline

            Sure, you have the right (no choice whatsoever) to pay high taxes for mediocre service (yes, I’ve used your healthcare myself) with long (occasionally lethal) wait times. Keep patting yourself on the back.

            Your healthcare stops at the border. Mine is worldwide.

          • carry a big stick

            and if a Canadian wants to they can buy health insurance for travelers, good wold wide . Oh and what happens when you lose your job ? No more health care. But hey , you still have the right to die , eh!!

          • JRSCline

            Once again, Canadians are paying for something that’s always touted as “free” and “universal.” Do you like being lied to and overcharged?

            If I lose my job and become truly indigent, there’s Medicare and Medicaid. But since I’m responsible, there’s very little chance of needing either.

            Perhaps Canada should spend more on education, since you can’t write correctly.

          • carry a big stick

            Well first off , everyone in Canada know that our medicare is not free. We pay for it. But it is universal. any Canadian gets medical care when he or she needs it. And tell me , how many AMERICANS lose their homes or declare bankruptcy every year because they had an accident . How many AMERICANS can not get any medical care. You VA hospitals are overflowing and can not take any more patients . You may have fine hospitals but people are turned away every hour of the day because they have no medical coverage. Tell your lies to someone who believes them , not to me. And as long as you YANKEES keep dying because you can’t get medical care you greedy people are happy. I prefer to live in a country that cares for it people. Not the USA , eh.

          • JRSCline

            You do realize that, legally, people who are unable to pay CANNOT be turned away from an ER? Oh well, why bother with facts when your head is filled with bigoted hatred of “Yankees”?

            To most Americans, Canada is but ‘a few acres of snow’ and some miserable, jealous people huddled along a very long border. You’re one.

            All the envy and spite are all the more amusing, given that we don’t really care what you think. So keep feeling superior, and we’ll keep ignoring you.

          • carry a big stick

            I sense a lot of anger and bitterness in your post . Maybe you should talk to someone and get help. Here in Canada we do not get turned away from a Emergency Room . Americans on the other hand have to prove they can pay before they are treated. Your envy of our health care system is well known and understandable. That may be the source of your anger.

          • JRSCline

            LOL, hey, aren’t you the one foaming at the mouth and ranting about “AMERICANS” and “YANKEES” and how selfish, stupid, etc we are?

            I’ve got no problem with Canadians – I married one – but the Canadian national identity complex often results in ugly bigotry by Canadians toward Americans, and I never miss an opportunity to troll it.

            No one can be turned away from a US emergency room for indigence, and that includes Canadians. I, however – the visiting Yank – had to produce financial evidence that I could pay cash before I was treated at a Canadian ER in Ottawa.

            When I was to give birth to our first child, my husband wanted it to happen in Canada, but the hospital quoted me, the foreigner, a price of $8000-$25,000 (“depending on your complications, if any”) which didn’t include a further 25% surcharge for the privilege of paying in cash to deliver a Canadian baby.

            A Canadian relative by marriage had – past tense – a wife whose cancer biopsy didn’t take place until 3 months had passed, and by then, she was stage 4 and was given weeks to live. They had a young baby, and that baby is motherless now because of the wait time for cancer care in Canada.

            You’d be surprised how few Americans actually envy anything about Canada, including your non-universal, non-free healthcare. I guess I do envy having Tim Horton’s on every corner, but that’s about it.

          • T.S. Stamp

            better look again….as of July 1 2014 a new federal mandate states that “unless life threating” you must provide proof of health insurance or pay 40% up front before being seen by ER staff. I work in the admitting dept of a large hospital and we just finished a class on this.

          • JRSCline

            Obamacare.

          • Scrupuless

            Funny because, my grandfather almost died in Phoenix for the same reason. Left my grandmother scrambling back to their hotel so she could get their credit card, even though they had the travelers insurance policy with them at the hospital. They refused to treat him until she produced a valid credit card. What a great system.

          • JRSCline

            I suppose he needed to look more Mexican.

          • Victor

            Hey “carry a big stick” – did you know that the American who coined the phrase from which you stole your name meant that if you had a big stick you didn’t need to say very much?

          • Scrupuless

            That’s okay the less your hawkish, spiteful, and murderous government and people think about us the better. You can keep your society, with its ghetto’s, guns, and drugs. I prefer talking care of my fellow man, I don’t mind paying for that privileged. Don’t get it twisted the health care in Canada is far superior for the average citizen then yours is. Corporations run your government, and at this point there is nothing you can do about it. How many wars and how many dollars of your tax payers money have spent on war in the last two decades? I venture more then our health care system and military combined has cost us in total since it’s existence. Land of the brave, ha, more like land of the cowardly drone aircraft operators who fire bomb women and children and wonder why the world hates you. Yes that right it is a very common sentiment outside of america, some the nicest, kindest, intelligent and most giving people I know, detest america.

          • JRSCline

            Thank for the texbook example of Canadian bigotry toward Americans. People who hate other people are not nice, nor kind, nor giving, and certainly not intelligent.

          • Tim Dermody

            SEND EM TO CANADA!

          • Tim Dermody

            But on the other hand, ever Canadian I’ve ever met complains about how their gas by the litre cost what we pay a gallon, then brags about how they get free health care.

          • Matureguy

            Wrong our health care is world wide. Seems you managed to survive using our health care. So yes we will keep patting our selves on the back.

          • JRSCline

            No, it isn’t. Have you even been overseas? Canadian travelers routinely purchase supplemental travel health insurance, and for what reason?

            Your healthcare, as I’ve related further down, is acceptable and that’s all. It’s certainly not free, it’s not universal (in fact every province runs it differently – Quebec’s is nicer than most because they get excessive transfer payments from the Anglo provinces), and it’s very hard to access specialty care quickly.

            Keep bragging, but those of us with few on both sides of the border know better.

          • Tim Dermody

            SEND EM TO CANADA! SEND EM TO CANADA!

          • Matureguy

            We don’t have to distinguish ourselves from Americans. When we become egotistical, loud mouthed, bigoted individuals then perhaps maybe. Hey the American Empire is crumbling. Look around.

          • JRSCline

            As far as I can see, it’s the Canadians doing most of the insulting. How’s that working out for you?

            Psst – your own housing bubble’s about to burst!

          • tehOmni

            At least we have an empire, while you have coattails to ride on — along with less international political relevancy than the Swiss. Why does 90% of Canada live next to the US border, I forgot?

          • JRSCline

            There’s a one-way mirror running along the US-Canadian border.

            Americans, sitting on the reflected side, look at it and see only their own image.

            Canadians, on the viewing side, look through it and see only Americans taking no notice of them.

            How infuriating that must be for you – especially knowing that as our economy goes, so goes yours, for good or ill. It’s a shame that your experience in the States couldn’t cure your negativity.

            I came to Canada prepared to love its people, and left in disgust at the pure passive-aggressive venom that Canadians spew on all things United Statesian. Your banal calumnies are nothing very original, nor particularly insulting, considering the petty vein of nationalism-by-comparison that they spring from.

            Like it or not, you’re stuck with us, so deal.

          • Sorcha The Dark Eyed Elf

            Well, I don’t know about the VAST majority of Americans.

          • JRSCline

            What, Obamacare didn’t extend coverage for elves?

        • Joe Almeida

          Cancer, disease, premature births, and debilitating accidents are involuntary things that happen to human beings too. As a country, we decided to pool our resources to treat everyone. Yes, there are involuntary premiums through tax revenue, but the Canadian economy gets benefits as a result, from having a more mobile workforce and better re-balancing of skilled workers, to a lower manufacturing cost for vehicles. In the US, you pay an involuntary premium of $500 per US built car purchased for the health coverage of US autoworkers that is covered in the Canadian system.

          • JRSCline

            Having car-shopped in both countries, I can tell you that it’d be a bargain to pay a $500 healthcare benefit to the UAW, versus paying $5000 more for that same vehicle simply because it’s sitting on a car lot in Canada.

            There’s a reason Canadian auto dealers have always lobbied hard to discourage Canadian consumers from importing U.S. vehicles from U.S. dealers who charge far less. Dealers in Canada can’t compete on a level field with U.S. dealers.

            Why? And what better value, exactly, are Canadian car buyers getting at Canadian dealers?

            Well, maybe that $5000 extra is going back to the CRA for taxes that – voila! – cover healthcare or some other “pooled” benefit. Have fun with that.

          • Joe Almeida

            That $500 represents a manufacturing cost seen by the dealer – which ultimately affects the US ability to export worldwide, and that is the kind of premium seen on all sorts of high end US products where workers have company insurance. This is why many US manufacturers were asking for universal health insurance. Yes, in Canada, there are a whole slew of products that are taxed at higher rates than one would find in the US. And as you mentioned, the US already has a competitive tax system – yet somehow that advantage has not managed to balance the federal budget, has a large number of cities declaring bankruptcy, and finds itself having to bankroll the budget difference with money from a geopolitical rival – China. Don’t get me wrong, incompetent spending happens on both sides of the border, but if there is an absolute, and visceral cultural reaction to paying any tax to government to deliver any service its been asked to deliver, then no one should be surprised at the fiscal situation the US finds itself in. If you believe that your only concern should be what comes out of your pocket, then do not be surprised that the price being paid is the well-being of your neighbour, and ultimately you – because your neighbour is being forced to do the same thing – care only about the price paid.

          • JRSCline

            I hate to break it to you, but if Canada was obliged by treaty and economic interest to spend a huge proportion on defense of its trading partners and ersetwhile allies, you’d be going broke too.

            Canada and our other allies can afford to go cheap on defense spending precisely because Uncle Sugar is holding one heck of a huge military umbrella over you.

            The NORAD/NATO umbrella frees up a massive portion of Canada’s GDP to go not towards defense, but to generous state-sponsored entitlements – which still remain very expensive in small economies, ergo the high taxes levied by social welfare states.

            Unless you want to start paying a proportional sum for your own defense (did you know Canada’s navy consists of 14 capital ships, none bigger than a destroyer?) and those long, remote borders of yours, I’d suggest you take a more charitable look at Trudeau’s proverbial elephant to the south.

            Eventually we won’t be able to afford to hold up that defense umbrella, and as it slips, you’ll either pay more to arm yourselves properly, or you’ll have to roll the dice on the continuing beneficience of Russia and China.

          • Joe Almeida

            I’m so glad you brought up defense spending because it underlines a number of points. First of all, anything that Uncle Sam does, its doesn’t do out of the goodness of its heart, so spending trillions of dollars on weapons are not done so that Canada does not have to, but rather to advance other aims of import to US government interests and the unelected people who lobby it. Second, an amazing US President by the name of Dwight Eisenhower only managed to spend money on US infrastructure such as a highway system, and money for schools when he referred to the spending bills to things as the “National Defense Education Act” – which I may add really helped to fuel the postwar boom. Unfortunately, your current crop of politicians aren’t so skilled and buy into the paranoia to the point of absurdity. Ike was purposely trying to have the US transition into a peacetime economy from a wartime economy, and he managed to do so by spinning the fear on its head to invest in infrastructure and education. Third, the masses of money spent on advanced weapons did not deter Russia from biting off parts of Ukraine, prevent Assad from holding onto power, prevent ISIS from rearing its ugly head in Iraq, or from the Chinese to cause worry for its neighbours. It was a Tunisian fruit peddler who set himself on fire that gave grief to the Arab dictators. Many times, the forces of history are bigger than any military. Military spending can only deliver so much. Sometimes, you just have to let things happen. Fourth – Post 9/11, had Bush to take the same trillions of dollars and decided to shift energy consumption away from fossil fuel as little as possible – Saudi Arabia, Russia, Iran, and Iraq would be broke along with the government funded terrorists, the geopolitics of the Middle East would reach a new non-importance, China from a competitive stance would have no choice but to pivot energy consumption the same way, the US economy would have been pumping out more non-fossil fuel driven products than any other country in the world, and US Government would have been in the black for a long time. Yes, cut your defense spending, pay your bills, invest in your people, change the economic conditions on the ground, and everyone one will be better off. Spending money on the military is more of the same, and what the world has now ain’t too good. Fifth, I am all for Canada spending money on the military – from footing the entire bill for a Canada wide phased radar array under our total control, to developing our own fighter aircraft (which we used to do and can do again), to having a rational navy that’s nimble, fast, and bristling with surface to surface and surface to air missiles. I’d even go so far as paying extra taxes to maintain a small fleet of nuclear subs complete with nuclear deterrent so that neither Uncle Putin, nor Uncle Sam can afford to have foolish and greedy designs on our North. Rational defense spending would be a boon to our manufacturing sectors, provide a way of holding onto our brain power, and be a more vigorous and listened to member in NATO/NORAD. When that happens, maybe the good general will finally develop plans to invade Canada, but alas, he’ll need to check with his Chinese investors before hand. If not, he’ll have to fund the Canadian invasion with Kickstarter.

          • JRSCline

            What an essay! I don’t have time to do it justice with an equally long one – but I’m glad to hear you’re prepared to render even higher taxes to defend your ‘home and native land.’

            The time is coming when Canada will be obliged to bring the CF to a credible level, whether Canadians wish to pay that huge bill or not. You at least will be content – other Canadians will no doubt be less so, as much of Ottawa’s largesse is sharply diverted to defense.

            You personally may not have asked for or wanted Uncle Sam’s defense umbrella these last several decades, but you have the benefit of it nevertheless. That is the point.

            So enjoy it while you may, and the present economic advantages that come with delaying the sizable military investment required to defend Canada and her erstwhile allies in a multipolar world.

            As for an invasion of Canada, that’s laughable, but hey, planners are planning – everywhere, not just here. (China and Russia are planning, count on it.) I imagine Canada will petition to join the U.S. eventually, in some fashion, if only to share the cost of maintaining infrastructure, the common defense, and achieving a more globally-competitive North American economy.

            Whether the U.S. government would accept partition is another matter. Canadian infrastructure is appallingly expensive, given the sheer size of Canada and how thinly-populated most of the country is. Your tax base can hardly support your true needs, if proper defense spending is factored in. But Canada would come with ready resources, and in a period of climate warming, that fact could tip American minds in favor of unification.

            At this point, however, the thought of adding 30 million Democratic voters is why unification won’t happen until it absolutely must. Sorry, Canada – it’s not you, it’s us. :-)

            And then there’s Quebec… and who wants the socio-cultural drama that accompanies a bloc of 7 million overly-entitled Francophones?

      • Sarge@Large

        How good would your Universal Health Care be if you had Mexico on your southern border instead of the United States? Hmmmm? {Crickets chirping… Loon calling in the distance}

        • carry a big stick

          Since you Yankees use to come across the border to get `free`medical I don`t see any difference between the USA and MEXICO. Luckily CANADA changed the way we deal with medicare and it is now next to impossible for YANKEES to cheat OUR system !! What are your thoughts on that?
          (crickets chirping ….complete silence from loud mouth YANKEE bigot )

          • Tim Dermody

            Maybe we should ship all these children coming across the boarder right up north. You can tell them all why they aren’t covered. Then the world can truly see how barbaric those Canadians are. SEND ‘EM TO CANADA! SEND ‘EM TO CANADA!

          • Sorcha The Dark Eyed Elf

            Well, first of all, you are a YANK too. Second of all, I guarantee you, had you had Mexico on your border, it would have been far worse.

        • Matureguy

          Hey we take your draft dodgers, deserters and other riff raff gang bangers so we get enough from you .Our taxes may be a wee bit higher than yours but I don’t have to sell my house to get medical care. The land of the free. Not.

  • Paul Bronfman

    Wake up Canada

    In October of 2006, an American journalist visiting up north
    noticed something was not right in Canada. He had been making the trip every year, but
    this time there was a marked difference.

    Something he was all too familiar with in the United States.
    Corporate-paid for, visceral politics.

    http://www.rabble.ca/news/american-journalists-view-harper

    ..

    • Paul Bronfman

      As an American journalist visiting my wife’s relatives in
      Canada, I’ve always been struck by how ardently the country’s political
      discourse focused on substance — the budget, health care, schools, roads — with
      little of the cheap theatrics and angry divisiveness of U.S. politics and
      punditry. Reading and listening to the Canadian news
      media during those family trips could be a tad boring, but it also was
      touching, like remembering your earnest grade-school civics teacher lecturing
      about the wonders of the American democratic process.

      But in my visit this past summer, I noticed the tone of Canada
      suddenly had changed. There was a nastier edge to the commentary.

      There were not-so-subtle appeals to racism and xenophobia,
      references to Muslim neighbourhoods in Quebec
      as “Quebecistan” and to Lebanese-Canadians as “Hezbocrats,” a play on the
      Muslim group Hezbollah.

      To someone who has covered U.S. politics for three decades,
      there was a shock of recognition. Standing out starkly against the bland
      traditions of Canadian governance was the pugnacious ‘tude of American
      political combat, wedge issues pounded in with a zeal that put the goal of
      winning and holding power over everything else.

      (An American journalist’s view of Harper, By Richard
      Fricker, October 18, 2006)

      And he knew the cause:

      For inspiration in building a new brand of Canadian
      conservatism, Harper looked to Washington,
      where Rep. Newt Gingrich, R-Georgia, was promoting a combative style designed
      to shatter the longtime Democratic grip on the U.S. House of Representatives.

      What Fricker didn’t know though, was that Newt Gingrich
      actually took his inspiration from Preston Manning and Steve Harper during
      their Reform Party days. We exported
      this.

      http://pushedleft.blogspot.com/2011/01/was-it-so-long-ago-that-canadians-were.html

      http://www.rabble.ca/news/american-journalists-view-harper

    • Richard Nixon

      “Corporate-paid for, visceral politics.” – What nonsense.

      • NadineLumley

        What’s really ironic is that this crackpot (paul bronfman) has hijacked the name of a Canadian media mogul that comes from one of the richest families in the country.

  • BillStewart2012

    Obligatory South Park Reference – Blame Canada!

    And yes, the US did invade them in 1812, and our public-school history lessons generally forget to remind us that we were soundly defeated.

  • George Alfano

    A Canadian team hasn’t won the Stanley Cup in 21 years. What, Me Worry?

    • Tom Hanna

      George, you are right, it was won by 15 Canadians, 7 Americans, 4 Swedes, 3 Germans and a Russian!

      • zornwil

        Across 21 years? Wow, that’s very few people who did all that, I had no idea! :D (Just a joke, I know what you meant.)

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  • Smith_90125

    The US is the sort of thieving and murderous country that would invade and kill people to steal resources for its own benefit (re: Iraq, Afghanistan, at least eight Latin American countries, etc.). It’s not a stretch to believe the US would invade and kill Canadians in order to steal oil, food and water, especially now that countries are talking about “food security”.

    • Richard Nixon

      You’re an idiot. There is little resources in Afghanistan to “steal”. And in Iraq the oil was BOUGHT from the Iraqi government (not the Baathist one). The US is the one that airdropped water and food in Afghanistan to the starving population. And brought educational supplies to the women of that country. The only country to utilize the resources in Afghanistan in terms of oil (Afghanistan isn’t even in the top 10 countries for oil imports by the US) is China. SO HOW ABOUT YOU DO RESEARCH INSTEAD OF THROWING OUT STUPID CLAIMS. Canada is the one currently trying to give us its oil, by building a pipeline that WE DON’T WANT. We have our sources of resources, you ignorant twit. And the only Latin American country with enough oil is Venezuela and the US hasn’t invaded them. You idiot, stop making up lies in order to try to convince people you’re not as stupid as you really are. The US is ranked as the most generous country on earth. It isn’t thieving or murderous, you tool. Jealous much?

      • erick

        Afghanistan has critical resources for the financial elites. Afghanistan has historically been the major producer of opium dating back to the British empires “sending a gun boat up the Yangtze” river in order to pursue the drug trade. Now the financial banks need the laundered drug money for needed financial liquidity. Selling drugs to your kids in school is what keeps the financial banks operating. That is why the CIA was given the task of overthrowing the Taliban regime in Afghanistan–to restore the drug trade for the benefit if the financial banks.

        • Rajat Valmiki

          Afghanistan has huge Uranium ore deposits.

      • carry a big stick

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh my what a joke . America is a gang of thieves and bullies . Ask the people of Iraq or Afghanistan or any other country that the YANKEES invaded just how generous you YANKEES are !!

      • greg

        Canada doesn’t have to “try to give” its oil to the US…it is already the US number 1 supplier of oil. The US didn’t go to Afghanistan to control the oil it went there to control the heroin as 90% comes through the Khyber pass. The average American is hated in most countries of the world because they think money buys love. Most despise your money and would love the opportunity to rob you and make you crawl. That alone is why being Canadian is much more preferred. And why many Americans pose as Canadians when abroad.

      • carry a big stick

        Bullshit. There are minerals , at last count $1,000,000,000,000 in proven gold and lithium deposits in Afghanistan. And there are OIL and GAS reserves worth at least that much.

    • Soxtory

      We have spoken before about you not taking your medications!

    • aaron1313

      Why bother with an invasion?US companies own everything worth owning in Canada anyway.

  • Richard Nixon
  • Robert Bianchi

    “moose riding, maple syrup guzzling Mounties…”…This is in poor taste. Let’s just insult the US closest ally and number one trading partner for no reason.

    • kenny

      You can say anything about the Toronto Maple Leafs. They are the joke of Canada

      • Robert Bianchi

        Kenny, the Leafs are fair game…I’m authorizing you to make any negative comments you want to make against them…Now the Winnipeg Jets- no way. Chevy and Paul Maurice are building them into being a contender. It’ll be awhile but they are fun to watch.

        • Scrupuless

          The same Paul Maurice who was head coach for some of the worst leafs teams on record? That one?

          • Robert Bianchi

            Yeah that one…seems to have learned some things from the TO and other experiences.

      • carry a big stick

        You’re right. I call them the Toronto MAKE ME LAUGHS !!

        • Jake Ayney

          the toronto makebeliefs wouldve been funnier….

    • GreginNJ

      It was a joke.

      • Robert Bianchi

        I get that. That’s the point.

        In my humble opinion, it’s a bad one.

    • LanceSmith

      Oh please…this hypersensitivity is truly getting ridiculous.

      People need to learn the meaning of intent. There is no ill-intent.

      Grow a sense of humor.

    • Emmanuel Bahinting Anajao

      Zionist Israel, you mean?

  • kenny

    We have the 3rd largest oil reserves in the world and the largest amount of fresh water in the world

  • Peter Smythe

    This is a serious issue. Invading Canada without a plan is likely to result in unnecessary casualties and expense.

    • aaron1313

      That actually is exactly what happened in 1812.

  • Peter Smythe

    Also, we need a plan. Internet armchair military strategists, make such a plan NOW!

  • Hoagy

    I wonder if any of the brilliant commentators noticed that the General and the Senators were having a good chuckle over his comments. The differences between Americans and Canadians are subtle, and often as not, irrelevant. What both nations should be proud of is an undefended border almost 6000 km long, and a lasting friendship going back to the Confederation of Canada. Our rivalries have been productive, and our differences are something we both smile at. Long may we run, side by side.

    • kmgtexas

      Eh??

    • Ronald73

      Right you are. I even had one Canadian motel manager tell me that the U.S.A. and Canada might be better off if we had parity with the dollar of each country. Not likely to happen but most people would feel any difference.

    • carry a big stick

      The reason we have an undefended border is because it would be too expensive to defend it !! It is not about friendship but all about dollars !!

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    • BiggieSmalls

      Agreed and what is a reality is garbage reporting like this article. There is too much going on in this world. Was there really a need to publish this crap?

    • aaron1313

      And we helped build each others railways.A Canadian,James J Hill,was an important player in the building of the US transcontinental railway,the Union Pacific.And an American,William van Horne,oversaw the completion of the Canadian Transcontinental,the CPR.
      Let’s be friends and focus on the positive.

  • Soxtory

    Bettors are now getting odds on a Canada – US merger, not an invasion. A merger is one of the few possibilities out there that make sense!

    • Robert Bianchi

      Make sense to whom?

    • carry a big stick

      Not to your average CANADIAN it doesn’t!!!

    • aaron1313

      Bettors have been giving odds on that since 1776.Hasn’t happened yet.Never will.

      • Soxtory

        Fun reading for eternal optimists and positive thinkers:
        Merger Of The Century. Why Canada And America Should Become One Country! By Diane Francis, Published By Harper Collins.

        Same subject by same author, Wall Street Journal 12/6/2013.

        You have my best regards!

        • carry a big stick

          Diane is an American transplant. What else would she say?

    • Soxtory

      Not a total merger where the provinces become states, but one like the current EU where tariffs, taxes and duties would be done away with. Back to a fairly open border and pipelines easily built.

      Let us touch base in a few years, after the evil Obama, and see how it looks.

  • fuzzball

    I do not think an invasion of or by Canada is likely, but a Russian strike across the Bering Straights could easily pass through Canada. and we would have to react quickly and may have to invade Canada to stop them further North than the USA northern border.

    • http://none.com Jack Everett

      Your conspiracy fears are nonsense. You need to stop drinking the kool aid and get AA help.

      • fuzzball

        When graduate from pre-k let all of us know, it will be the hardest ten years of your life. We have plans for an alien invasion so what do you think is more likely? Russi’san crossing 50 miles of water to Alaska or aliens crossing 5,000, 10,000 light years of space just to attack us? War games, scenarios are DESIGNED to think of the impossible. They are used for up and coming officers to evaluate their critical thinking skills, when you wake up from your drug and drunken stupor get to a hospital you need it.

    • Les Brown

      How do you plan on the Russians getting down to the US? On bicycles? It might have worked for the Japanese cycling down the Malay Peninsular back in 1942, but troop transport has changed a lot since.
      Anyway, the US has this State called Alaska. The Russians just might want it back it be satisfied with that.

    • aaron1313

      I think the Russians have their hands full in Ukraine right now.They’re not about to invade Alaska or Canada any time soon.

  • IH8RDCLMSLMS

    It sounds funny, but when Asia, etc., start to run out of resources, you’ll pray Canada had its own nuclear weapons stockpile.

  • kmgtexas

    Any war between Canada and the U.S. would be akin to a civil war – as so many families are made up of US/Canadian couples. It seems so silly to throw away our money even having manned border crossings there. When I worked in Europe, I used to drive over the German/French/Belgian borders and wouldn’t even know I had done so unless I happened to notice a sign. And we are much more similar in culture and values to Canadians than European countries are with each other. Yet, when crossing, I have to stand (or sit – if driving) in lines each way just to answer silly questions by govt employees?

    • carry a big stick

      During the War of 1812 there were families who lived on both sides of the St.John River who refused to go to war. They continued to trade and friendly relations. They wanted nothing to do with the war. Damn traitors !!!

      • barangayboy

        Didn’t Canada take Detroit in 1812? Good grief! What were we thinking?

        • aaron1313

          Yes and the Americans sacked York(Toronto).And the Brits
          burned DC.

      • aaron1313

        Not exactly.Many were originally American settlers-not loyalists-who came to Canada to farm free land.Asking them to choose sides was liking asking someone to choose between his father and mother.Iniatially neutral,most eventually supported the British-Canadian side-especially after the Americans burned York.(Toronto).

        • carry a big stick

          We did not want to join the USA. And we still don’t want to join the USA !!! As an aside , Canada can , according to your constitution join THE USA anytime it wants to. But as I said , we do NOT want to join you guys. thanks anyway, eh !!!

          • aaron1313

            You are wrong pal.I,too,am Canadian.And I nowhere advocated that Canada join the US.Matter of fact,I find the idea abhorrent.Why not respond to my comments instead of making unwarranted assumptions about my citizenship and my views?

  • kmgtexas

    It doesn’t make any difference WHY we invaded Canada and shot and killed Canadians…..it’s a fact that we did. And they were insufferably unwelcoming!!! They kicked our patooties both times and sent us packing back across the border without so much as a “fare thee well” or a warm plate of poutine!! I vote that we should never take our invasion business to them ever again – the ingrates :-) Long Live Our Neighbors Canada!

  • Ronald73

    This whole thing reads like something on “The Onion”. Maybe they also write for “The Onion” or they’re smoking whacky weed. These days when someone say something stupid it get reported and picked up by other so-called news companies and repeated.

  • carry a big stick

    And in 1866 -1870 you AMERICANS used Irish terrorists to invade Canada. You are obvious ignorant of Canadian/ American history There are more than the 2 usually mentioned instances when Canada / American relations were threatened . And War Plan Red is still there in case you need it.

    • JRSCline

      And you forgot that part of your history where Britain decided it was simply not worth it to defend Canada against a possible US invasion after the American Civil War – et voila, the Dominion of Canada was spun off to fend for itself.

      Why would the US have invaded Canada in the 1860s? Well, there was that little issue with the British having economically propped up the Confederacy (prolonging the Civil War with a cash lifeline) by trading for cotton the Union wouldn’t let through its blockade of Southern ports.

      You do realize all this is on Wikipedia? Start with “Fenian raids.”

      • carry a big stick

        I am well aware of Canadian history. And you YANKEE used TERRORISTS against us.

        • JRSCline

          Still overcapitalizing, I see. It doesn’t help your argument as much as you think it does. But it helps us determine you’re a tiresome tr⌂ll who repeats the same silly slurs endlessly.

  • Smurfy

    Unless the mayor of Toronto decides to step into US and take over the drug businesses there….. That might be possible,

  • http://politicsplus.org/Rixar13 Rixar13 McGinnis

    Thanks Lynn,

  • Danthejet

    #1 & 2 educated countries in the world……..Israel & Canada….Merica way down the list, stop arguing with Canadians and go back to school and maybe you can make a valid point once in a while!

  • Guest

    Hahaha. Funny article.

  • Sidd SG

    Hahaha. Funny article. Why would anyone think that US is planning to attack Canada? Have they been watching the movie Canadian Bacon?

  • jake

    Why do Americans wear Canadian flags on their luggage and t-shirts when they travel abroad? I noticed this a few times on my travels, its pretty damn bad when you have to sport another country’s flag to travel because you cant show your own flag for fear it could result in a violent attack against you. that speaks volumes.

  • Lamb Chop

    Erskine “the Ten-Horned Devil” Cooney Jr. resents Canada because it wants to extend the Keystone pipeline south into the U..S. He is also is deeply suspicious of any nation that does not have millions of sponges, parasites, unemployables, disease-ridden, uneducated, illiterate, and guaranteed lifelong Democratic voters that are averse to taking bus trips across our porous borders in order to wreak havoc with our economy and way of life.

    Oh oh! Maybe an invasion of Canada is in his plans.

  • Moses Cohen

    At a time when the Middle East is on fire, Germany upset by being spied on,
    internal problems with people abandoning the workforce (62 % in the US,
    67 % in Canada) and on and on, this argument is a complete lack of
    respect for our neighbors to the north. When 9/11 happened, US passenger
    planes were not allowed to land on US soil. They found heaven in Gander,
    Newfoundland where the population there greeted everyone, gave free
    room and board until it was safe to leave. Lastly, here in Calgary, Alberta,
    of a population of 1.3 Million we heve 100,000 US residents working
    mainly in the Oil Industry, they are happy to be here and we are happy
    to have them.

  • Father_Russia

    grab Canada right now.

    • aaron1313

      Go away and mind your own business.Canadians and Americans like each other (mostly) and we get along fine.Like everyone else we have our problems but we work them out PEACEFULLY.Unlike you guys.

  • Father_Russia

    there are no plans ?lies. Always have a plan and if not you will need to send in the resignation of the US General.

  • JRSCline

    Canadians really don’t like to be reminded that they were British when these wars occurred – there was no “Canada” – just an Upper and Lower pair of colonies. Confederation occurred decades later.

    There were indeed Canadian militias in play, but the American ground forces were drubbed by British regulars, not locals.

    • aaron1313

      Nope.The locals,English,French,Loyalist,and Indian ALL participated fully in the defense of the Canadas in 1812-15.The British regulars played the leading role however.

      • JRSCline

        Precisely what I said. Provincial militias and other irregulars were not decisive for either side.

        At best, irregulars can harass regular forces, even to the point of causing them to withdraw, but they do not take or hold key terrain. British redcoats beat American bluecoats, period. If local militias and Indians had been effective against American regulars, for instance, York wouldn’t have been burnt.

        It was well for the British that American expeditionary forces were so hampered by disunity of command, poor supply and incompetent leadership. And it was well for the U.S. that the British expeditionary fleet was not more successful against the plucky American Navy. As it was, neither side achieved its offensive objectives.

        The “Canada won!” mentality is not only clownishly ahistorical, but disrespectful to the mother country that birthed both our nations.

        • carry a big stick

          Wrong. Canadians fought and beat the YANKEES at Stoney Creek . The Native people fought against the YANKEE and beat them every time.

          • JRSCline

            Go away, dear – the adults are having a conversation.

    • carry a big stick

      We considered ourselves to be CANADIAN . And the “Upper and Lower” parts you speak of was called Upper and Lower Canada. Even your pres. during the war of 1812 called for the invasion of CANADA!!

      • JRSCline

        Please engage your time warp and just don’t come back.

  • Victor

    moose-riding, maple syrup-guzzling Mounties… you forgot beer drinking and sheep shagging – we have a strong Scottish presence ;)

    • Les Brown

      Anyone mention sheep-shagging here? Keep my Kiwi mates out of this, they don’t like their relatives being associated with the Scots.

  • mrlgh

    As a Canadian, not only am I not offended, but disappointed that I will not be able to move to the warmer pastures of Florida any time soon. Come on America, get your act together….winters are getting colder!!!

  • firhillfan

    Sure we believe you Gen Dempsey, as much as we believe pigs can fly and lead floats.
    The US is only interested in the US and its needs and that is true of many countries but the difference is that the US feels an entitlement to everyone else’s resources and inexpensive labour.
    Canada does not but unfortunately we share a border with the greediest and most aggressive nation on the planet and with 1/10th the US population, we will be unable to defend ourselves & our resources.

    • aaron1313

      Maybe you’d like Russians on our borders?Americans are OK.Got nothing against them.

  • Tim Starks

    As the author of this article I’d like to thank y’all for the warm reception and debate it has spawned. It’s been fun to watch. A couple points in my defense: If you visit other articles on the blog, you’ll see that there’s a great deal of substantial policy discussion, and this light-hearted article didn’t take more than a half-hour away from that effort; I’m a big fan of the Canadian people, having visited a few times, and the stereotypes at the end were so deliberately ill-founded as to strike me as impossible to take seriously (who can ride a moose????); and Starkey McStarkerson Is a pretty good attack.

    • DoNotLikeItDealWithIt

      As a Canadian, I found your moose riding maple syrup mountie joke insulting and I believe you owe Canadians an apology. It’s not funny to make ignorant jokes at the expense of others.

      • JRSCline

        Do not like it? Deal with it.

        • DoNotLikeItDealWithIt

          I did, I dealt with it by calling this writer out on it by confronting the writers ignorant joke. It was unprofessional to make such a statement, now let me enjoy my day.
          ☀️

          • JRSCline

            Try to be thankful we haven’t yet discovered how ripe for ridicule your national wait list system – oops, healthcare system – actually is.

            I suspect you’d do better to examine the myriad of Canadian-sourced jokes that are equally ridiculous in lampooning Americans.

            Or you could exchange your sense of humor for a newer, less sensitive model… and enjoy your day far more.

          • DoNotLikeItDealWithIt

            Our healthcare system works just fine, I’m actually waiting to see my doctor and it’s no Boxing Day lineup which ignorant Americans such as yourself assume being into the far right wing media machine. Oh and guess what, all I need to do is hand the secretary my Healthcard so she can swipe it. I will not see any medical bill and I don’t need to worry about any associated costs. So laugh at us all you want like the fool that you truly are.

          • JRSCline

            My sources for Canadian healthcare woes is Macleans and other domestic media – hardly right wing by anyone’s standards.

            And for someone who demands courteous treatment, you’re quite fond of the insults yourself. Have a Molson on the chesterfield and just chill out. Most Canadians are not so uptight – are you from Trawnta or something?

          • DoNotLikeItDealWithIt

            Lol, I literally just had a conversation with an American who recently moved to Canada. He loves the fact he can safely walk the streets at night. He loves the fact he can just have his healthcare card swiped at the doctors office and not worry about having to fill out insurance papers. He’s pleased that Canadian Doctors will refer patients to a specialist when needed without hesitation. He told me how corrupt the medical care system is there. He told me how he was robbed twice at gunpoint. He told me how the kids there whip pennies at the teachers there and how bullying is more widespread there as well. Knives are frequently brought into schools by students. Here, most people are not crazy enough to bring weapons into schools but I’m not saying it doesn’t happen. He originally thought we lives in igloos but when he came to a conference here, he asked to be transferred to Canada. He also told me how bad it’s there in USA, homes abandoned, pets abandoned left to die, that is just straight up sick! There’s no way he would ever want to move back to USA. He said it’s alright for single people but not a place to raise a family. He said the schools are much better here compared to American schools. So keep up laughing at us all you want and keep safe.

          • JRSCline

            There are 330,000,000 Americans – you’re bound to find a few who’ll fly the coop for various reasons of their own. (And homes abandoned? What, is he fleeing Detroit? Or Las Vegas?)

            Obviously your new pal is happy to pay higher taxes and prices up north, and if so, good for him.

            If we all felt that way, you’d have 329,999,999 more landed resident applications – but you don’t.

            Frankly, most of the Statesians who’d really benefit from moving to Canada will never be approved for residency – because Canada pre-screens out any applicant with a medical condition that might place an undue burden on the healthcare system.

            So you keep on pickin’ and choosin’ and actin’ all superior, and we’ll keep on serving as your buffer to the Latin American hordes looking for a better life.

            Trust me, if you had to absorb all these people, you wouldn’t want single-payer healthcare any more than we do.

            At least our immigrants work hard, if they don’t bring much else. (More than I can say for some of the native-born here who want their ‘free’ stuff, paid for out of other people’s pockets.)

          • DoNotLikeItDealWithIt

            Maryland, I didn’t enquire if he lived in other areas. ; )
            Anyways, I’m not saying Canada’s perfect. To compare Canada to USA, it’s like comparing Apples (Canada) to Bananas (USA). Both have different advantages and disadvantages. There’s plenty of things I do admire about Americans but plenty that frustrates me as well, same goes for Canadians. Anyways, I’m done with this silly pow-wow because it is what it is, moving on now.
            Chow! ; )

            Oh yes, just to increase your knowledge about Canada. There’s no place called Trawnta here, it doesn’t exist, lol!

  • VeryDisgusted2

    With crazy president like Obama, this is possible. He trashed US and adored Muslims in his Cairo speech. He declared his support to Muslim Brotherhood and accommodated Hamas. He released Taliban generals. He disarrayed healthcare system. He allowed thousands of illegal immigrants to US. He is bent on destroying US, so invading Canada is not far fetched, LOL.

    • Juan Sanchez

      maybe he will invade canada because it has universal health care, which he can’t seem to establish in the u.s.

  • guest

    To start with thank GOD U.S. is not like Russia, so as a Canadian I don’t have to worry.

    • aaron1313

      Me too.I sleep well knowing we have a friendly neighbour on our southern border.

      • DoNotLikeItDealWithIt

        Keep your enemies closer than your friends

    • carry a big stick

      and what country has invaded Canada? Not Russia!! Not Argentina! Not Zimbabwe ! Only the USA has invaded us. Russia is not a threat. The USA is THE THREAT!!!

  • bcdemon

    I can almost guarantee the US has an invasion plan for Canada. If you want to see it, nationalize the oil and gas industry, better yet, apply to join OPEC. USA hates when countries do that.

  • aaron1313

    That’s what you said in 1812 too.Didn’t quite work out that way did it?
    Anyway,American business owns everything worth owning in Canada .Unless the US gets taken over by a madmen war between the 2 countries is inconceivable.

  • Emmanuel Bahinting Anajao

    If the United States is planning to invade Canada, I wished to volunteer for Royal Canadian Army to be an asset to halt them. I’m a Dabawenyo from Davao City, Philippines.

  • xzanthius

    Well… I’ve got half a dozen viscous trained beavers and a small herd of caribou ready for the coming conflict. Plus me and my pals have some serious apologies that will make everyone far too sympathetic to us to fight back.

  • westernread

    Bill Stewart: Funny stuff. I for one would surrender to Canada. The only difference between Colorado and British Columbia is the distance to Utah ski resorts…

  • JRSCline

    Flagged. Go away. Adults are talking.

  • gollywhopper

    Better hold on to a plan if any, for if Justin Trudeau is elected. Heaven help Canada should that happen.

  • Daniel Katzenstein

    How long woul it take to plan and execute an invasion of Canada if it started sending Kassam rockets over the border and Hamas fighters under the borders and on to US beaches?

  • Robert Drzewiczewski

    The Republicans will go to any length to avoid work and dealing with important issues-all they can do is blame and come up with absurd notions like invading Canada-the example used was 200 years ago, by the way. The GOP loves this era as they are always referring to the 2nd Amendment, which was drawn SOLELY to deal with the issues of the day.

  • joopzkie

    That was hilarious! I thought it was a joke!

  • tukmol

    if US will do that canadian soil will be part of US and their citizens will become US citizen. US don’t want to give illegal immigrant path to citizenship but if they act on it it contradicts their own action. bunch of hypocrites. LOL.

  • section9

    Thanks, but I’d trade Harper for Obama in a heartbeat.

    • Pearls to Swine

      You have a deal.

  • CroMisterc

    Je suis Canadien et vit au Québec ! Obama et ta gang de voyous, l’on se foute éperdument de vous ! TRANSLATION FOR ALL AMERICAN DUMMIES…….
    I’m a Canadian and live in Québec ! Obama and your bunch of liars (like Botox Kerry) and thugs, just leave us alone ! You’ve lost all of your worldwide credibility ! BUZZ OFF !

  • Memy SelfAndi

    America is already being ruled & controlled by an Overlord, its called the Zionist Lobby & Israel. Why else do you think America went to war with Iraq. Iraq wasnt a threat to America but it was to Israel…….

  • http://missmyrtle2.com Miss Myrtle

    Dearies, we are so glad to hear that no invasion plans are imminent. But just in case, I have stockpiled all of the cheap champagne I can find (from the Napa Valley, of course). Have made sure that my Red Cross Emergency Survival Kit is fully stocked. Know all the words to the Star Spangled Banner (unlike most celebs who sing it at US sporting events) and can pledge allegiance to the Flag in a heartbeat. Have already subscribed to Sarah Palin’s new TV channel (for comedy value only). If invaded, hope it means that Nate n’ Al will open a branch in Vancouver, and that John Oliver will come to visit occaisionally….

  • GML

    Well, he says there’s no plan to invade; but I think, on the whole, I’m glad I moved from Canada to Israel where it’s safe.

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