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September 19, 2014

Maloney Calls for Investigation Into Threats From Pro-Gun Leader Larry Pratt

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Maloney (Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call File Photo)

Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney, D-N.Y., wants Capitol Hill law enforcement officials to investigate a prominent gun rights advocate’s praise for threats on her life, calling them evidence of “just how outrageous the extreme pro-gun movement has become.”

In a Rolling Stone article published Monday, Gun Owners of America Executive Director Larry Pratt is quoted saying that the Second Amendment is for “for restraining tyrannical tendencies in government … especially those in the liberal, tyrannical end of the spectrum.”

The article also references an incident in April 2013, when Ronald Buchanan of Elmira, N.Y., contacted Maloney’s district office and made several death threats. Buchanan later plead guilty to making the threats and was sentenced to 10 days in jail, one year of probation and extensive anger management training.

“As someone who has been on the receiving end of violent threats, I can tell you that it is no small matter,” Maloney told CQ Roll Call in an interview Wednesday, expressing her concerns about Pratt’s comments. ”To hear Mr. Pratt say he was ‘glad’ about the threats made against me shows just how unhinged he is.”

Maloney’s staff notified Capitol Police and House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving of the recent article which declared Pratt the “Gun Lobby’s Secret Weapon,” the congresswoman said, but they were told there was “no specific danger and nothing to be done.” Maloney’s office expressed particular concern with this passage:

“The Second Amendment is not for hunting, it’s not even for self-defense,” Pratt explained in his Leadership Institute talk. Rather, it is “for restraining tyrannical tendencies in government … Especially those in the liberal, tyrannical end of the spectrum. There is some restraint, and even if the voters of Brooklyn don’t hold them back, it may be there are other ways that their impulses are somewhat restrained. That’s the whole idea of the Second Amendment.” He reiterated the point this March during an interview with conservative talk show host Bill Cunningham. Speaking of a New York Congresswoman who had expressed fear that one of Pratt’s members wanted to shoot her, Pratt said, “You know, I’m kind of glad that’s in the back of their minds. Hopefully they’ll behave.”

And if they don’t? When speaking before smaller, conservative audiences, Pratt explains that it is necessary to both generate an undercurrent of fear and muster the organization and will to defeat the dictator prophesized in the Book of Samuel. When asked during a 2010 Q&A session, “Do we have the will to stand up to the government when they trample our rights?” Pratt replied, “That is an exceptionally important point to raise. We can have all the guns in the world, and if we don’t have the will to use them [against the government], then they are useless.”

The congresswoman says Pratt is actively encouraging his members to threaten violent action against members of Congress they disagree with, and that law enforcement should consider investigating “the extent to which Mr. Pratt’s organization is involved with making threats against other elected officials.”

“These comments are especially reprehensible in light of what happened to my good friend Congresswoman Gabby Giffords, who suffered a traumatic brain injury as a result of a gunshot wound received during a public event, a shooting that also cost the lives of six other people,” Maloney said. “Pratt’s rhetoric essentially invites similar attacks on other members of Congress.”

“We are aware of the statements, and constantly monitor potential threats against Members of Congress; working with our counterparts in that regard as well, but do not discuss specifics about security related issues,” Capitol Police spokesman Shennell Antrobus said in an email.

  • mjbarkl

    Second Amendment remedies.

    Here’s one:
    http://www.mjbarkl.com/repeal.htm

    It would solve most of our gun problems while still allowing responsible gun owners to keep their guns. And, as usual, Mr. Pratt demonstrates that we need these remedies.

    –mike http://www.mjbarkl.com/run.htm

    • Duke_Digger

      Uh….yeaw..that’ll reeeeallly solve it……NOT! The folks that are prohibited from owning guns now will rush, I say RUSH out to pay this tax. NOT
      Replace the 2nd with the 1st and start taxing every sentence you write, and every word you say.
      GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

    • mjbarkl

      Hey Duke, You don’t want to pay the tax? No problem. You can even keep your guns if you don’t pay it since they will no longer have “value”. But say goodbye to everything else you own. Including your lawn.

      Best wishes,

      –mike

      • Snitch_in_Time

        Or we can just keep the guns and lose the idiocy proposed here.

    • erick

      No gun control. Get a gun and shoot a republican, so they can be with Jesus.

      • Snitch_in_Time

        Always comes down to threats with the Left. Kids, do not try Second Amendment solution rhetoric at home. Leave it to the adults. You may now return to the peanut butter and jelly table.

    • Snitch_in_Time

      If you don’t want people reaching for a “Second Amendment Solution” you might want to quit dreaming up crazy new “Second Amendment Problems”.

  • libertytribune

    They fear gun owners because it is to prevent tyranny from raising its head.

    • erick

      If guns are outlawed, then weaponized drones can replace guns.

  • RE Hafner

    Maloney should get a life or get a good man to take care of her frustrations

    • Fat Hubie

      We call that a three bagger here. (yeah, don’t let the dog see you doing it.)

  • Rich

    If the shoe fits, ____ it.

  • jack burton

    Perhaps Maloney should read “The Second Amendment as a Prophylactic” at http://jack-burton.hubpages.com/hub/Prophylactic

  • don76550

    Maloney you are a lying marxist. You were not threatened, but then anyone exercising their 1st amdt rights is a threat to anti American marxists like you.

    • jack

      lets slit your throat, just a little

    • manhattanmike

      No, just blind lunatics who sit in the dark fondling their guns.

  • Mike the Limey

    So Maloney admits to what we already know; she’s from the “liberal, tyrannical end of the spectrum.”
    It’s a change for honesty to be seen in a tyrant.

    • http://americandictators.blogspot.com/com/ WarriorClass III

      It is a tacit admission on her part of being “the liberal, tyrannical end of the spectrum.” It is she that needs to be held accountable for treason.

      • manhattanmike

        Wow! Does calling yourself “Warrior Class III” get you a date on Saturday night?

        Must have some reason for the over-compensation.

        • http://americandictators.blogspot.com/com/ WarriorClass III

          That name was given to me by Lt. Col. Ralph Peters:

          http://americandictators.blogspot.com/2014/07/one-year-ago-today.html

          • Jack Kelly

            Well, I’ll give you the name of MoronClass 1 as you don’t seem to have a grasp on reality.

        • Fat Hubie

          Troll grasping at straws…

        • pdigaudio

          She is a tyrant. Calling for investigations of people critical of the government.

          • J Clark

            Yep. Quoting the Declaration of Independence “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,” makes you a potential terrorist these days.

        • Snitch_in_Time

          That you Mike Pants? Still spewing the psycho-sexual nonsense, I see.

    • jack

      hopefully someone wont cut your throat, they’ll behave

    • Fat Hubie

      Yep, liberals ain’t the cuddly hippies we once knew. The hippies have been taken over by hard-core communists. Thank God for “gun control”!, otherwise the real American Patriots would be setting the selector switch to PUREE!, thus eliminating any carbon dioxide emissions from from their pathetic lungs…

      Hint: American Patriots will hand over the guns if the left will stop breathing…

  • Old Jarhead

    Perhaps Rep. Maloney would like to have the following persons investigated also.

    “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive.”
    —Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution (Philadelphia 1787).

    “O sir, we should have fine times, indeed, if, to punish tyrants, it were only sufficient to assemble the people! Your arms, wherewith you could defend yourselves, are gone…Did you ever read of any revolution in a nation…inflicted by those who had no power at all?” Patrick Henry, Virginia ratifying convention, June 2 to June 26, 1788.

    “[C]onceived it to be the privilege of every citizen, and one of his most essential rights, to bear arms, and to resist every attack upon his liberty or property, by whomsoever made. The particular states, like private citizens, have a right to be armed, and to defend, by force of arms, their rights, when invaded.”
    Roger Sherman, House consideration of a Militia bill. Debates in the House of Representatives, ed. Linda Grand De Pauw. (Balt., Johns Hopkins Univ. Press, 1972), 92-3.

    “The importance of this article will scarcely be doubted by any persons, who have duly reflected upon the subject. The militia is the natural defence of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers. It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace, both from the enormous expenses, with which they are attended, and the facile means, which they afford to ambitious and unprincipled rulers, to subvert the government, or trample upon the rights of the people. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.(1) And yet, though this truth would seem so clear, and the importance of a well regulated militia would seem so undeniable, it cannot be disguised, that among the American people there is a growing indifference to any system of militia discipline, and a strong disposition, from a sense of its burdens, to be rid.”

    Justice Joseph Story, “Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States”
    , 1833.

  • Sam Fuels
    • John E. Walker

      “Black Gets Death Penalty for Murdering 2 White People for a Car”

      The Age of Obama. God help us all.

      • ITSa341

        As well he should have. Color doesn’t matter, crime matters and punishment reduces crime. If more criminals were caught and punished people would be safer and criminals would consider a different line of work.

        • erick

          This concept does not work on drug money laundering wall street criminals or cocaine sniffing stock brokers.

          • ITSa341

            Wrong, if the principles I stated are applied it will work. If more of the white collar criminals are punished fewer will violate the laws and regulations.
            Race has no place in crime or punishment. For that matter race should play no part in anything. Being from a specific race is neither an excuse nor is it reason for weaker or stronger punishment.

    • Fat Hubie

      The black people here in the sunny South are kind, considerate and respectful of the elderly of all races. Those far away troublemakers are being influenced by Communist agitators.

  • John E. Walker

    Why are leftist women always so damn ugly?

    • DrColostomy

      That’s a women?

      • jack

        I know you, your gay, right?

      • Maggie

        No, she’s just one woman.

  • DrColostomy

    Fugly khunt.

  • manhattanmike

    Time to put Pratt and the other proto-traitors at Gun Lovers of America in prison.

    • John Crawford

      On what charge? Convicted by whom?? You?
      Semper fi

    • John Crawford

      On what charge? Convicted by whom?? You?
      Semper fi

      • manhattanmike

        I have a feeling that an in-depth investigation would reveal just how Pratt and others at Gun Lovers of America feel about taking up arms against the government, and yield more than a few indictments.

        It can also be said that had Pratt said these kinds of things about Bush or anyone in his administration, he’d be in handcuffs and sitting before a judge.

        • John Crawford

          Really? Because Pratt believes, as did our Founders, that tyranny must be fought on all levels, you think that investigation is in order? How very Loyalist of you. You’d have fought on King George’s side, wouldn’t you?!
          And, you have zero idea if he’d have ended up in cuffs under Bush. As a matter of fact, it is Obama that is terrorizing the country, far beyond anything Bush ever did. IRS intimidation, drones in our own skies, death lists, etc. None of those are Bush!
          Semper fi

        • Fat Hubie

          Doesn’t America exist in Manhattan, Mike?

          • manhattanmike

            Yes. And we can also investigate treason here, as well.

          • Fat Hubie

            By treason, do you mean pasty faced hags trying to take the Second Amendment rights of American citizens?

          • manhattanmike

            No, I mean amongst those like yourself, who equate threatening elected officials with patriotism–along with manhood.

          • Fat Hubie

            To most of today’s elected officials, patriotism is a threat. How can someone swear to uphold the Constitution and then make a career of subverting it? Guess you won’t have an answer, so get right to the name calling. You are obviously a paid troll, just not a smart one. I know people that would like to meet you…

          • manhattanmike

            Guess Pratt isn’t the only one of your tribe that enjoys issuing threats. Let’s see what Roll Call might do about that.

          • Fat Hubie

            Not sure what Roll Call is. Are they mad about all the threats that you seem to be making here in the name of others? No one is worried about anything you say here, because liberals do not actually do anything, they just have feel good ideas. “Shall not be infringed” really bothers you, don’t it? Later…

          • manhattanmike

            No, but I am bothered when right-wingers equate their pieces with their patriotism. As you seem to be one of these people, I will not waste my time responding to you again.

            Roll Call is the name of this publication.

          • Fat Hubie

            Darn! I was hoping that you would take the time to explain why letting you decide the extent of my inalienable rights would solve any of your problems. Also why you call for the arrest of people standing up for those rights.

          • manhattanmike

            Last comments:

            Your “inalienable” right to bear arms was never described as such in the 2nd Amendment.

            Even if you assume that the right of gun ownership is supposed to extend to private individuals, and not militia members, that right has been limited in some way for hundreds of years. That’s why most people can’t own machine guns.

            I would like to see anyone who threatens government officials with violence–even by implication–investigated, and if appropriate, arrested, tried and convicted of doing so.

            Your are welcome to equate patriotism with your ownership of a piece. Therapy is much cheaper and safer in the long run than blowing smoke rings with your gun.

          • Fat Hubie

            Well then, good luck with whatever country you are in. It pretty much says “Shall not be infringed” concerning my rights. The Bill of Rights does not grant anyone rights, it restricts the government from taking them. It is basically insurance against people like you. No law abiding gun owner ever wants to hurt anyone, but you seem to think that if YOU could just get control….
            You are right, the constant waste of time on this is tedious. Get all the other useful idiots together and come and take them! I will leave the light on so you don’t trip over the cat…

          • manhattanmike

            I’m still waiting, Mr. Fat, to see what your “friends” might want to do.

          • Fat Hubie

            Surely whomever you are referring to would gladly give up any of their rights that make you uncomfortable. Like all good libs, you have avoided addressing any of the issues I have brought up, now you want to take a straw issue personally.
            It boils down to this : Americans have certain rights that a hindrance to evil people.
            So get over yourself and have a nice day. Get Pajama Boy to make you some cocoa…

          • Fat Hubie
          • Old Jarhead

            What friends would that be? Anything like the quotes and writings of the following gentlemen>

            “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive.”
            —Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution (Philadelphia 1787).

            “O sir, we should have fine times, indeed, if, to punish tyrants, it were only sufficient to assemble the people! Your arms, wherewith you could defend yourselves, are gone…Did you ever read of any revolution in a nation…inflicted by those who had no power at all?” Patrick Henry, Virginia ratifying convention, June 2 to June 26, 1788.

            “[C]onceived it to be the privilege of every citizen, and one of his most essential rights, to bear arms, and to resist every attack upon his liberty or property, by whomsoever made. The particular states, like private citizens, have a right to be armed, and to defend, by force of arms, their rights, when invaded.”
            Roger Sherman, House consideration of a Militia bill. Debates in the House of Representatives, ed. Linda Grand De Pauw. (Balt., Johns Hopkins Univ. Press, 1972), 92-3.

            “The importance of this article will scarcely be doubted by any persons, who have duly reflected upon the subject. The militia is the natural defence of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers. It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace, both from the enormous expenses, with which they are attended, and the facile means, which they afford to ambitious and unprincipled rulers, to subvert the government, or trample upon the rights of the people. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.(1) And yet, though this truth would seem so clear, and the importance of a well regulated militia would seem so undeniable, it cannot be disguised, that among the American people there is a growing indifference to any system of militia discipline, and a strong disposition, from a sense of its burdens, to be rid.”

            Justice Joseph Story, “Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States”
            , 1833.

          • manhattanmike

            Constitutional scholars have disagreed with such positions in the past, and do so now.

            As to your personal leanings, as I wrote earlier, therapy might help, if you can let go of our beloved piece long enough to come in for it.

          • Old Jarhead

            So, instead of engaging in refuting anything I wrote, you elected to go to the standard “attack, insult, demean” method of the Alinski rules.
            Odd that you didn’t address a thing I wrote, because your response had nothing to do with what the founders said. The fact is, Constitutional scholars can debate all they want, this WAS what the founders believed.

          • Snitch_in_Time

            “Constitutional scholars”! Ohhhhh! Quick name three.

          • Snitch_in_Time

            Still waiting those indictments to come rolling down. Don’t hold your breath, little boy, you don’t look good in blue.

          • Snitch_in_Time

            Little Mike Pants, you need to read the debate surrounding Article 1, Section 8, Clause 16 before you attempt to interpret the Bill of Right, Amendment 2. See: http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/tocs/a1_8_16.html

          • Snitch_in_Time

            Looks like Roll Call didn’t do anything to Fat Hubie, little Mikey. Nobody did anything to Larry Pratt, either. I guess your complaints are as empty as your head.

          • Snitch_in_Time

            No elected official was threatened. Quote the words of the threat, not the lies of those who are getting the vapors over this imaginary and pretended offense.

          • Snitch_in_Time

            I think the word you are looking for is “sedition” not “treason”. Treason is an act, sedition is the words advocating treason. Of course, nothing Pratt has said is seditious so you are free to demand an investigation until the cows come home. It will never happen because there has been no sedition. Poor little Miky, so angry yet so impotent to strike at the big bad Larry Pratt. Cry me a barrel of tears little boy, cry me a barrel of tears.

        • Snitch_in_Time

          Investigate away. Considering everything he says is protected by the First Amendment, you will just have to ball your fists and scream your lies. There is nothing you can do to Larry Pratt. Yes, I am laughing at your idiocy.

    • Brosky

      Better yet, Dear Leader should just use one of those predator drones on them, without charges or trial of course.

    • Snitch_in_Time

      And here we thought all the Fascist and Communist thugs were gone. You seem to embody the spirit of both. Thanks for playing.

  • Seems Legit

    How dare Pratt eloquently explain the fundamental principles behind the document I made an oath to uphold and defend.

  • Seems Legit

    How dare Pratt eloquently explain the fundamental principles behind the document I made an oath to uphold and defend.

  • Mike Reardon

    Sheez what putzes our politicians have become

    • jack

      I know, lets slit your thorat a little

  • erick

    No gun control. Get a gun and shoot a republican, so they can be with Jesus.

    • brentondadams

      The tolerance of the rabid left on display as usual. How many of your ‘political enemies’ are you willing to personally pull the trigger on? Do you have a number in mind?

      • Poshboy

        That would require them to know the difference between a magazine and a “shoulder-thingy.”

        And to see one of them properly field-strip any AR platform rifle? Oh, the unrestrained mirth and laughter that would ensue!

    • Fat Hubie

      According to your ilk, they have all the guns. But you got the first part right, “gun control” is unconstitutional.

  • Fat Hubie

    ***Comment Section *** In which commie trolls put forth the proposition that taking innocent people’s rights will solve their problems.

  • Brosky

    Still need more evidence that after they finish with the second amendment, the first and all of the others are gone too? Say No to gun control and dumb political hacks like Phony Baloney Maloney.

  • Poshboy

    Maloney is a whack-job, and has been for years. How the voters of NY-12 can vote her into office year after year only shows how mentally unbalanced the majority of them are in that part of the state.

  • Rob Erta
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  • calimani

    What a pathetic, hormonal, leftist, dingbat, hag. Thank God for the 2nd Amendment. The fact that it scares ugly, hand-wringing, liberal, troll-face, know-it-all, tyrants like this Carolyn Baloney rat, makes it all worthwhile.

  • Johmmcv

    I wonder if Baloney realizes that all the shooters involved in the news noted incidents were liberal,nuts,and moslem

  • Publius40

    What needs to be investigated is how this poster girl for blond jokes got elected!

    It is ignorant, ill informed individuals like this who are responsible for the cancerous growth of socialism in America at the expense of lost Liberties, and the dismemberment of the American Dream of prosperity and opportunity.

  • avlisk

    Her ignorance is profound. She needs to find a hole, crawl into it, and go away. Dear Carolyn, please have someone read and explain the US Constitution to you. Pay special attention to the little known part (sorry, I was thinking of BarryO here), called The Bill of Rights. That’s RIGHTS, as in natural civil rights of the PEOPLE. So, I have to wonder, what kind of voters are putting this ignorant loony in office. The problem seems to be much deeper than just this evil woman.

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