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November 30, 2015

Is China’s State-Owned Aircraft Manufacturing Company A Threat to Boeing?

You may wear Chinese-made shirts and not even notice, so will you someday be flying aboard a Chinese-made passenger plane?

The potential threat of China’s commercial aviation sector to American manufacturing – and especially to Boeing — was one focus Thursday of a hearing of the Senate Commerce Committee’s Subcommittee on Aviation Operations, Safety, and Security.

Displaying a photo of a C919 made by China’s state-owned aircraft company, COMAC, Sen. Mark S. Kirk, R- Ill., told the subcommittee, “This is a competitor to the [Boeing] 737…. We want to make sure that just as this [C919] aircraft hits the market as we expect in 2018, that we have an Export-Import Bank to finance sales of U.S. aircraft overseas.”

The charter for the Export-Import Bank expires next month and it faces opposition from fiscal conservatives, especially among House Republicans.

Kirk added that when a passenger boards a flight today on United Airlines or American Airlines, “you’re overwhelmingly likely to fly a USA aircraft. We want to make sure that you’re not flying China in future days.”

Subcommittee chair Sen. Maria Cantwell, D- Wash., said “because of the massive resources required to develop, produce, and market commercial airplanes, when we talk about aviation, we are often not talking about companies, as far as competition, but sometimes talking about actual countries.”

China and Russia are working “to develop a wide-body plane intended to compete on a global scale,” she said.

The ranking Republican on the subcommittee Sen. Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire said “if their milk is an indication, I don’t want to fly in a Chinese plane”—a reference to Chinese scandals over adulterated milk and infant formula.

Offering a more guarded view of potential competition from China was economist Keith Crane, director of the Environment, Energy, and Economic Development Program at the RAND Corporation.

Crane said in his testimony that “by the time COMAC hits full production, the C919 will be technologically outdated compared to Airbus’s and Boeing’s new models, the A320neo and 737 Max, respectively.”

Most aviation experts, he said, believe that COMAC “will not truly be able to break into the international commercial aircraft market until it manufactures its next aircraft, the C929, following the C919 and quite possibly, not even then.”

To develop the C929, COMAC will Chinese government subsidies for “a relatively long period of time.”

But Crane added that one market where China is likely to be more successful is in smaller planes for general aviation.

He noted that a Chinese state-owned enterprise has acquired Cirrus, a U.S. manufacturer, and has signed a joint venture agreement with Cessna to assemble the Cessna Citation model in China.

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  1. 3jbing

    Aug. 12, 2014
    6:23 a.m.

    China keeps rising with the help of USA. Americans continue to sell technologies and large manufacturing that someday will compete against the USA. The containment strategy should start NOW not only militarily but in all aspects. The United States has been habitually slow in counter reactions and often struggles to correct things overseas. Indeed nations rise and fall; today who is falling and who is rising?? Has America reached the top of the hill? Say ain’t so Uncle Sam!

    • Dodong

      Jan. 17, 2015
      8:36 p.m.

      Yes, you are right. But the U.S. public attitude is measured by money which China have. Therefore the Americans will sell everything for money, and it will be there downfall.

  2. Porwal Ranjana

    Aug. 22, 2014
    2:29 p.m.

    can we rely on china things so far what we see is just one time use things that have no chances of repair in case ! no warranty GOd save the Earth!

    • nrik

      Aug. 30, 2014
      11:14 a.m.

      If you don’t want to use Chinese product nobody in this world can force you to.

    • Osymandias

      Oct. 29, 2014
      10:20 p.m.

      How about iPhones and mac Books?

    • Cedric Lynch

      Jan. 2, 2015
      8:31 a.m.

      Many Chinese products could be repaired and maintained, but the importers in many countries are not interested in stocking and selling spare parts.

  3. tocharian

    Aug. 24, 2014
    3:31 a.m.

    You have to ask Su Bin, the Chinese-Canadian spy who was caught recently.

  4. O_Pinion

    Aug. 24, 2014
    4:01 a.m.

    Maybe Jeffrey immelt should have been called as a witness at this subcommittee to explain why he sold GE Avionics into a joint venture with Avionics Industry Corporation of China. With one stroke of a pen he did more to harm the competitive advantage of the US aviation industry than anyone in the past 100 years.

    • abbaj

      Aug. 30, 2014
      7:25 p.m.

      investigate his immelt guy. china is good in copying technology. soon enough they would not need GE anymore as copycat china has reversed engineered everything. i for one would not take a plane made by this comac company of china. boeing and airbus only or nothing.

  5. Patikotiko

    Aug. 30, 2014
    4:06 p.m.

    I still prefer Boeing.

    • Peter_Lyon

      Sept. 10, 2014
      7:30 p.m.

      For no good reason other than xenophobia.

  6. Arun

    Sept. 1, 2014
    11:01 a.m.

    regard to Xi’s visit to India, during BRICS summit, President Xi had a
    good meeting with Prime Minister Modi,” he said, adding that the two
    leaders agreed that Xi should visit India in the “neat” future.

    I think its not “neat future” near future… if it mistake pls correct it in the article………

  7. Harry DeMarcus

    Sept. 12, 2014
    6:29 p.m.

    I wont fly on a china made’s lacking one or two’s surely screwed to break apart…

    • bizbird6

      Jan. 26, 2015
      5:14 p.m.

      That what they said about Japan too ONCE!

  8. buknoy2489

    Sept. 17, 2014
    8:37 p.m.

    Someday USA will kneel to China if this problem will not be solve, China will take advantage militarily economy technology and other aspect, China is a communist country a traitor leader. Now they are taking advantage in all aspect slow but sure

  9. Great Indian

    Sept. 18, 2014
    12:22 a.m.

    China can manufacture Passenger Aircraft, still Boeing is more reliable. Aircraft safety is the main concern. Hope Boeing will take this as a Stepping Stone to Success. May be the Chinese competition will make Boeing still more Stronger.

  10. dr.s.divakaran

    Sept. 27, 2014
    2:07 p.m.

    Many of our friends in India may be aware that the HAL in Bangalore manufactures doors for the Airbus aircrafts.This is a good approach. Eventually, Boeing and the Airbus in Toulouse will dominate the civil aircraft manufacturing. India and China must seek outsourcing of some of the components that go into these sophisticated aircrafts including control circuits and modern electronic trigger circuits and so on.

  11. Patikotiko

    Oct. 3, 2014
    9:48 p.m.

    China Co. Is no match to Boeing.

  12. Djoe D

    Oct. 11, 2014
    3:21 a.m.

    Just disclose the plane is made in China & I’ll never ever gamble to fly on it coz technology is pirated.

  13. my

    Oct. 16, 2014
    10:40 p.m.

    it”s made in China! there’s no point of comaparison

  14. pauline

    Oct. 17, 2014
    8:32 a.m.

    if that thing able to fly,and even if the fair is so low,i wont fly on that plane,everybody knows chinese heads,their just copying and keep on copying,low quality.even airbus and boeing sometimes fail in there tech,which has decade of research,how much more this chinese copier?

  15. Bebot Palomata Bebing

    Oct. 19, 2014
    5:33 a.m.

    I will not ply if the plane made in China.

  16. Patikotiko

    Oct. 20, 2014
    5:55 p.m.

    Consumer just need to see the comparison and the quality. Remember our lives are at stakes here.

  17. dsafsdf

    Oct. 20, 2014
    6:08 p.m.

    the real reason this plane is no good…it was not made by white man!

  18. Vir_A

    Nov. 2, 2014
    9:24 p.m.

    You would still be flying an American airline on board a C919 because we never know much of the system is a stolen technology modified to look original.

  19. Subrata Dutta

    Nov. 14, 2014
    12:41 a.m.

    It will probably be a use and throw, relatively cheap aircraft. Junk after 3 years and get a new model.

  20. Hector L Esguerra

    Dec. 3, 2014
    8:44 a.m.

    I’m sorry but I’d rather take a boat than travel on a china made aircraft..heaven knows why..

  21. sangos

    Dec. 18, 2014
    10:11 a.m.

    Maybe its time for Boeing to close shop….hang on i meant get into space planes manufacturing. Let chicoms do the obsolete tech…hawhahwhawhahw

    • bizbird6

      Jan. 26, 2015
      5:12 p.m.

      Or Boeing can move their Manufacturing to China where most of the World’s Manufacturing is DONE ANYWAY!!! The Chinese can do it cheaper.

      Maybe someday even better too!


  22. Ok Jon

    Jan. 10, 2015
    10:58 p.m.

    yeah, all of you china basher idiots fly the MALAYSIAN AIRLINES made by THE U.S.A. manufacturers….

    • David Stephens

      Jan. 10, 2015
      11:06 p.m.

      Thats because they were piloted my idiot Chinese pilots thats why, hell they can’t een drive a vehicle on a road , what makes you think they can fly a plane.

  23. shib

    Jan. 20, 2015
    1:33 p.m.

    most likely, China’s aircraft manufacturing is for defence purposes. it makes no sense to compete Boeing & Air bus.

  24. Vijay

    Feb. 5, 2015
    11:36 a.m.

    I’ll buy a new car with decade old technology for half the price. So will the flight companies. Safety is no 1 priority, after that pricing & operation cost is all that matters. Passengers are ready to compromise on comfort for cheap tickets.

  25. nena

    Feb. 22, 2015
    2:55 a.m.

    made in China? no way!

  26. xjdYynQxm

    Nov. 4, 2015
    8:22 p.m.

    591034 495128I undoubtedly didnt recognize that. Learnt some thing new nowadays! Thanks for that. 412400

  27. ferrari car rental miami

    Nov. 29, 2015
    10:39 p.m.

    Wow, great article.Really thank you! Fantastic.

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