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April 23, 2014

Ted Cruz to House: ‘Stand Firm’ on Obamacare, ‘Republicans Will Win’

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In a Saturday night statement, Sen. Ted Cruz once again called on the House GOP to stand against Obamacare despite the government shutdown and looming default, contending they can still “win this debate.”

“House Republicans have heroically led this fight, and they should stand firm. Patience and courage and persistence is required, and will not come from the permanent beltway class,” the Texas Republican said. “So-called grand bargains historically have been neither grand nor a bargain — typically resulting in more debt, more spending, and more government.”

The statement comes in the aftermath of the news that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., are once again trying to find a way out of a budget stalemate in the final days before the Treasury Department exhausts all options to avoid default.

House Republicans appeared largely united Saturday morning against getting short-changed in a Senate deal.

Reid and McConnell have, of course, negotiated some of the very bargains in the past that Cruz is so vocally against. His strategy of opposing a continuing resolution that doesn’t defund the health care law helped lay the groundwork that led to the current government shutdown, however.

McConnell explained the challenge of having Cruz and other outspoken members of his Senate Republican conference to the Lexington Herald-Leader during a Friday interview.

“Imagine you’ve been chosen by some mysterious process to be the leader of a bunch of class president types,” McConnell said in an excerpt posted online Saturday evening. ”A lot of big egos and sharp elbows. On any given day they probably think they can do my job better than me. I don’t expect to be able to sort of skate through without any criticism.”

“The American people expect their government to function — and we can ensure that right now. We can fund our essential priorities and commit to paying our debt first, even while opposing Obamacare,” Cruz said. “The people want jobs and strong economic growth back, and Obamacare is a major impediment to both. As long as we keep listening to the people and fighting for jobs and prosperity, Republicans will win this debate.”

Cruz’s call to fund what he calls “essential priorities” seems to be a reference to the narrow “rifle shot” spending bills passed by the House but largely dismissed by the Senate (with Democrats insisting on reopening the entire government).

As for “paying our debt first,” Cruz is among the Republican lawmakers in both chambers pushing for the Treasury Department to prioritize debt payments.

Treasury Secretary Jacob J. Lew told congressional leaders in a letter that such a move would be “simply default by another name.”

  • MrSmith

    Just going to bed when I saw this.

    http://today.yougov.com/news/2013/10/11/shutdown-drags-americans-turn-obama-endgame/
    “Who is the biggest obstacle to ending the shutdown?”
    44% Obama or Democrats in Congress
    42% Republicans in Congress
    Cruz is right.

    • KarenJ

      I guess you didn’t hear about this, Obstacle #1 by the GOP September 30th: The House GOP’s Little Rule Change That Guaranteed A Shutdown

      and this, Obstacle #2, which happened today: [Senate] Dems Hold Firm After GOP Filibuster Of Debt Limit Bill.

      • Exodus2011

        Looks like the Public are starting to gang up on Obama and the DEMs

        62% blame Obama or DEMs

        only 46% blame the GOP

        reckon the House Republicans will Hold The Line for *WE The People* and force The Spitehouse Phoney to negotiate

        • Leota2

          Where are you getting these numbers? Ohhhhhh, right wing websites. Again—numbers republicans spout to make themselves feel better.

          • Filbert Brazil

            incredibull, ain’t it? I can see the old white guys in their barcaloungers all enraged at the democrats, shaking their fists at their ty’s while cursing Obama and all he stands for.

            meanwhile, their va checks, disability payments, snap cards, social security checks and medicare enhanced benefit explanation letters are in the mailbox.

          • Exodus2011

            (nope, see the latest poll just above)

          • jasonallen19

            I actually just googled it, and found your poll and the poll in the OP to be completely unfounded.

            All major, neutral polls are pointing at the GOP.

            But hey, I’m just someone who can type in English, enter in keywords to Google, and read. Don’t mind me.

          • Exodus2011

            (come out and chase me round the current articles now dollface … that way more people will see your weak arguments and my responses …. find me … TOOL … **__**)

            nah … you googled up your A$$ sweetpea

            y’see … I saw the poll

            independent pollsters are the way to find out public opinion which is nearer to reality

            no poll which is commissioned by a Ruling Class client should be viewed as RELIABLE

            don’t forget, they don’t want Cruz and the Tea Party to gain the upper hand

            the Clients of the pollsters want to ‘shape’ public opinion, not reflect it

            remember the daily BULLSCHMIDT Polls on gun-control?

            remember the Rasmussen BULLSCHMIDT polls predicting a R/R win?

            this happened because the GOPe client insisted that Rasmussen alter the party affiliation weightings to be more favorable, I mean ‘realistic’

          • jasonallen19

            It’s obvious by how you write that you’re delusional.

          • ceecee500

            “We’re not going to be disrespected, We have to get something out of this. And I don’t know what that even is.” Rep. Marlin Stutzman (R-IN)

          • Ferblungen

            Damn you beat me to it. I was driving all day. Yeah she, going by the avatar, got them from some wing nut website article just below the ad for gold, to the left of the ad for silver and gold and right above the ad for ‘Heritage Not Hate’ clothes for the little ones.

        • Jesse4

          Credible polls tell a whole different story, but that’s OK.
          You keep your head up there where such numbers originate as long as you can.
          It suits you.

          • Exodus2011

            LOL

            ‘credible’?

            no poll which is commissioned by a Ruling Class client should be viewed as RELIABLE

            don’t forget, they don’t want Cruz and the Tea Party to gain the upper hand

            the Clients of the pollsters want to ‘shape’ public opinion, not reflect it

            remember the daily BULLSCHMIDT Polls on gun-control?

            remember the Rasmussen BULLSCHMIDT polls predicting a R/R win?

            this happened because the GOPe client insisted that Rasmussen alter the party affiliation weightings to be more favorable, I mean ‘realistic’

          • Jesse4

            As Nate Silver showed last election, when you look at all the polls together, you can tell what’s going on pretty accurately if you’re able to process the information without getting too confused with your own wishes and dreams.
            But never mind that. What “ruling class client” came up with the absurd numbers you were throwing around?

          • Exodus2011

            (come to some other blogs now sweetpea – I have messaging to do all over today … you can help me if ya like **__** …. find me …. TOOL … )

            LOL

            they are all ruling class, who are deathly deathly afraid of Palin and Cruz

            but now there are enough independent pollsters to give the alternate balanced view

            but – in Joisey, the Pollsters won’t be controlling the turnout on wed – Madame Steel Spine and Mark Levin took over that role yesterday at the TPE Rally

          • Jesse4

            You didn’t answer the question: what “ruling class client” (that you don’t listen to) came up with those bogus numbers (that you listen to)?

          • Lumenkraft

            That’s a whole lot of crazy. Stop threatening America.

        • Darth_Barney
          • Exodus2011

            (come and find me on current articles now TOOL … not enough Americans will see your weak arguments and my responses if we stay tucked away in here **__**)

            LOL

            of course the Ruling Class will try and influence the outcome

            but remember a big proportion of those angry at the GOP are angry at the namby pamby Senate leadership who did not support the HOR

            all will be well for the GOP HOR if they continue to listen to their Constituents who have them on speed dial

            take ole Barry up to the wire on Oct 17th

          • Darth_Barney

            I AM one of those constituents. A life-long registered Republican, but I never signed up for this circus.

          • exodus2012

            well, make yourself heard then darth – call your Rep nd demand that he surrender to Obama on the trainwreck obamacare

          • Darth_Barney

            See, that’s one of your problems. You’re declaring not-yet-implemented legislation a “trainwreck” with no empirical evidence to back it up. Tea party talking points, fyi, are anything BUT empirical. We know one thing, the status quo system is failing 10′s of millions.

            FTR, however, my rep and both senators are Democrats, a result of Tea Party sandbagging that has turned historically red Colorado a solid royal blue. Keep spewing your ilk, bet that will be real effective for what’s left of the GOP to turning public sentiment back their way. Seems to be doing wonders in the polls.

          • exodus2012

            you need to speak up louder to you Rep ‘republican’

            tell him/her you like Obamacare and they should surrender to Obama immediately

            go on … do it precious .. .or you will be letting your hero down

            the rest of us will keep our HOR Reps on SPEED DIAL … for LIBERTY and for FREEDOM

            not this un-American socialised healthcare BULLSCHMIDT

          • Darth_Barney

            SarahPalin says, “tell him/her you like Obamacare and they should surrender to Obama immediately

            Exactly ‘why’ do I need to do as you say? Because you represent the uneducated populace of your hijacked party, the fringe of humanity?

            When I first registered to vote, Republicans represented an ‘educated’ class. No, not those that took a decade to graduate with a bachelors degree in journalism, having attended, what, three community colleges, a junior college and finally the ‘prestigious‘ University of Idaho’, but those who graduated in four years from a Big Ten, Pac Ten, Big 12 or Ivy League school.

            You and your ilk have dumbed down the ENTIRE party. Never confuse the Teapublicans from actual Republicans.

            On a side, moderate Republicans in the Senate are about to sell you out, and restore some sanity. Nice try! Go form your own wingnut party and leave us to reach for prosperity for all.

          • Darth_Barney

            FTR, we have to compete on a global scale with educated folk, those who have access to health care, socialized or otherwise. Not everyone can be a crab fisherman from bumfuk Alaska…

          • Caribou “PAYCUT” Barbie™

            That poster is NOT an American citizen

          • Darth_Barney

            Technically, Alaska is America, even if they can ‘see Russia from’ their house.

    • pmorton

      From the poll: 42% blame Congressional Republicans, 7% blame Congressional Democrats, 37% blame President Obama. Here’s a news flash, the President is not up for election in 2014 but Congress is. Even in this poll, looking very good for Democrats next year.

      • MrSmith

        It’s a mixed bag. Of course nobody is up for election at this time. What the polls say in a year will be different.
        I don’t think congressional dems can keep hiding, but if the Republicans surrender soon enough they may.

      • Sarah-cuda

        As individuals are always more highly approved then groups, and as all historical precedent would concede, The President’s approval rating matters a whole heck of a lot more then that of Republicans to the Democrats fortunes in 2014. If the American people blame the President then by default they also blame his party. This is day 1 stuff!

    • oldergent54@outlook.com

      CRUZ is a LIAR, and Communists From CANADA. A TERRORISTS. Let’s see his Blood Run in our Harbor’s as his relatives did. Send this Canadian to Hell like his Father Bin Laden.

    • Souxie

      This reminds me of those polls that had Mitt Romney winning the 2012 election by large margins. It was going to be a blowout. Republicans were SO SURE that their polls were right, and the “liberal” media polls were wrong. Well, we found out who was right and who was wrong, and your side is WRONG. Do republicans ever learn?

  • Thomas Aquinas

    In related video, we find the liar-in-chief, Hussein Obama, praising the anarchists of the “Occupy” domestic insurrection: http://youtu.be/aH99q2CRNZg?t=21s

    • aftermidnight

      Stop acting like an ignorant pissant. What’s wrong with you rightist, racist morons?

      • Jesse4

        Who said he’s acting?

        • okaokie

          TROLL ALERT! X 2

      • okaokie

        TROLL ALERT!

    • JohnofAlexandria

      I’m familiar with some of Thomas Aquinas’s work and I’m sure he would not write. I do not recall any deranged ranting in his works.

      • Jesse4

        He usually spams these boards with some pompous pontification that has nothing to do with anything.
        Nothing sorrier than a jackass trying to sound profound.

        • okaokie

          TROLL 1!

  • aftermidnight

    Cruz is a liar. About Obamacare and about job creation.

    • highcourt

      there’s a CNN report that the highest number of Health care uninsured in Texas are the Hispanics. then Cruz wants to nullify it?

      • Im#2Itryhardr

        With O-care, MORE Texans will become insured. Those who could afford it before can’t.

        • Jesse4

          Sounds like you pulled that right out of your butt.
          Source?

    • okaokie

      TROLL 2!

  • Exodus2011

    I think the HOR GOP should hold the line for *WE The People* and insist that the debt ceiling will only be raised in exchange for relief for the multitudes of Americans who are about to be harmed greatly by this BULLSCHMIDT Obamacare trainwreck

    why can’t *We The People* have the same waiver that the Big Biz Cronies of the Spitehouse Phoney are getting?

    Take it right up to Oct 17th, if the Spiteful Phoney continues to refuse to negotiate meaningfully

    The House Speaker can personally take a check for 51 Billion$ over to the Oval Office on the morning of Oct 17th for the President to sign.

    This is the amount needed to service the massive National Debt for the next 30 days, and is the Bill which must be paid ‘first’ according to the law – and so the country does not go into default. If the President doesn’t sign, he should be arrested for threatening to crash the country economically – and then Biden brought in to sign that check.

    and if ole Joe refuses – he should be arrested also, and Mr Speaker will sign the check

    The monthly revenue coming into the govt is north of 200 Billion$, so Obama can use the balance to pay the most pressing Bills remaining after that

    in fact – this crisis might just FORCE Obama to institute a BUDGET, something We The People have not seen for the last 5 years! (and this too, is against the law!)

    • Caribou “PAYCUT” Barbie™

      ATTENTION!!!!!

      Everyone watch out — this woman is NOT an American nor does she live in this great country of ours. She is a deranged racist from New Zealand and knows nothing about our country. She has made (on several occasions) comments about how getting rid of slavery was “America’s biggest mistake.” Stay clear of this foreign racist.

      • Exodus2011

        in a BULLSCHMIDTING panic are ya cariBOOO! – the BULLSCHMIDTER? … ya don’t want *WE The People* to be thinking about this option, and asking their House Reps about it?

        **__**

    • Im#2Itryhardr

      Wait until morning of 18th. My bet is that the birds will still be singing & the local shops will be open

      • Exodus2011

        yup – if the debt-servicing Bill for 51 billion $ has been paid

      • Jesse4

        I guess you know better than all the economists who say the opposite, right?

        • LeFabe

          of course she does, she speaks to god directly.

      • Mark G

        You’ll have to wait a little longer. It will take a few months to really see the results.

      • MrPete

        Debt service is half of what Exodus2011 thinks — less than $30B a month.

        Moody’s has already weighed in to say that lm#2ltryhardr is correct. There’s no need or reason for a default.

        You can be sure that if a default occurs, it is ONLY because the executive branch made that their choice.

        Think about it: gov’t is only 17% “shut down” even now. They could carve out another 5% to save enough money to pay the debt service for a year.

    • Sarah Conner

      Sounds reasonable. Let Obama the little sociopath reap what he has sown finally.

      It’s really hard to get people to see they are dealing with a sociopath, if they’ve never dealt with one before. And those who can see what’s going on are very frustrated with those who are still fooled.

  • helensimon

    Lew is obama’s liar..we believe Rand Paul who explained that default isn’t a realistic threat, as we’re committed to paying interest and principal. We’re not afraid of these lies.

    Time for obama to eat his peas, although he’s testing the loyalty of his base by cutting off their foodstamps. Isn’t that how communists punish their peasant masses, by torturing them? Electric failure? Not afraid of these lies either, and didn’t hear of any riots, although obama’s loyalty points just sunk even more…

    Too bad for obama, we happen to have a charter called the Constitution, which our darling TED CRUZ memorized when he was a child, and we insist these officials abide by…or BE FIRED! This is the truth and it is so encouraging. HOLD THE LINE! God is blessing America!

    • Jesse4

      Nice job of babbling.

    • aftermidnight

      And with these statements, you take ownership of the shutdown and debt defaults. But when the problems mount…and mount, will you still say that you were the sponsors of the shutdown and debt defaults?

  • Scott

    YOU KNOW how we have to get an Inspection sticker on your car ?? the repair shop looks for problems so they get Job Security and will find problems for greed and wealth .. So what ACA {Obamacare } does is once you know you have problems you can not be turned away from coverage and scare tactics you to buying Obama health care .. Obamacare is scamcare or scarecare tactics…. Repeal and replace ..Obamacare is the path to a health care card to get a job or even worse your privacy to benefit Government and jobs within . Search engine to tax”s.. It is a gateway to every person being scared to see a doctor..
    Obamacare is the path to a health care card to get a job or even worse your privacy to benefit Government and jobs within only to pay with our labor to bigger Government.. True socialism is when Government takes over your health

  • claymore

    I think GOP has a duty to stand firm against Obama….nobody else in congress has any sense of fiscal responsibility. A vote to raise the debt ceiling is a vote to collapse the entire nation.

    • Jesse4

      “A vote to raise the debt ceiling is a vote to collapse the entire nation.”
      ——————————————————————-
      Congratulations on writing the dumbest thing I’ve read in days.

      • okaokie

        You’re supposed to be taking a nap. Shame on you! Go back to sleep, bedhead.
        (*TROLL ALERT! TROLL ALERT!*)

  • Im#2Itryhardr

    War veterans, with months to live are being held hostage. Obama administration has crossed the line; from partisan to evil. Repeat: evil

    • Jesse4

      Stupid post.
      Repeat: stupid.

      • Sarah-cuda

        You mean in comparison to your intellectually hefty contribution to the discussion!?

      • okaokie

        you certainly are, and so is your post. your post is exactly what you said it is.

    • garyinaz66

      this hero is who the left hates, attacks and villifies

    • okaokie

      It’s always been evil, from day one. It’s just becoming more obvious.

  • Sarah Conner

    Maybe we don’t need so much of this “Federal Government” anymore. Maybe we shouldn’t be worried about whether it “functions” in the future.

    Seems like its main function is to rob the middle class and the poor and empower the elitists. Also, brutality when questioned on this practice.

    • Jesse4

      Spoken like a true five year old.

      • okaokie

        Yes, you are. Did they let you play with the computer today? How cute. Go tell your mommy she wants you, you’re interrupting the adults, isn’t it your nap time?

    • bittman

      Spoken like someone who sees what the Progressives have been doing to America. As Ben Carson said, “Obamacare is not about healthcare; it is all about control.” Lenin said that seizing healthcare was the keystone to a government gaining full control over its citizens.

      The Obama Administration’s park closings, refusal to pay for military funerals and death benefits to the military families, not funding the cancer treatments at NIH for children, etc., were all done to punish the American people as much as possible and to prove to them that the Big Government is in control. Well, with abuses such as these events, and the scandals such as the IRS abuse of Tea Party folks and other Conservative groups, Fast and Furious, and the President allowing four Americans to be killed in Benghazi and to lie about it for 2-3 weeks truly are despicable. Americans deserve better.

    • Mark G

      We don’t need Wall Street anymore. They are the problem.

  • Enzyte Bob

    Again, let’s remind everybody what happens when you run deficits all the time. Whoever is behind lying to the public about the Orwellian 1.6% inflation rate should be publicly hanged.

    ========

    Average Wages
    1930 $1,970.00 , 1940 $1,725.00, 1950 $3,210.00 , 1960 $5,315.00 ,
    1970 $9,400.00 , 1980 $19,500.00 , 1990 $28,960.00 , 2008 $40,523 ,

    Average Cost of New Car Cars
    1930 $600.00 , 1940 $850.00, 1950 $1,510.00 , 1960 $2,600.00 ,
    1970 $3,450.00 , 1980 $7,200.00 , 1990 $16,950.00 , 2008 $27,958 ,

    Average Cost Loaf of Bread Food
    1930 9 cents , 1940 10 cents , 1950 12 cents , 1960 22 cents ,
    1970 25 cents , 1980 50 cents , 1990 70 cents , 2008 $2.79 ,

    Average Cost 1lb Hamburger Meat
    1930 12 cents , 1940 20 cents , 1950 30 cents , 1960 45 cents ,
    1970 70 cents , 1980 99 cents , 1990 89 cents , 2009 $3.99 ,

  • bittman

    I hope the House listens to Cruz. I would not be surprised if the Democrats in the Senate and the White House started demanding an infinite increase in the debt ceiling. What — Is it really true that they’ve already done this?

    • garyinaz66

      house and senate, but they don’t care about us, just lobbyist bribes.

      Rubio, ryan, cantor etc…. push obamas agenda, just part of the rove/rnc/gop machine who take the same bribes from the same lobbyist paying off the democrats.

      amnesty, obamacare, debt, deficits all pushed by karl rove, Obama, the rnc, the gop and the dnc.

      why?

      because that’s what the lobbyist have paid them to do, they care none about America and its citizens, only about the money lobbyist stuff in their pockets to destroy us.

      do not sanction your destroyer.

  • garyinaz66

    let oblamer keep his “law of the land” oblamercare in place and lets keep the “law of the land” the debt ceiling in place. the federal government is expected to rake in a record $3.042 trillion from the private economy this year.
    Let’s engage in a simple math exercise. $3.042 trillion – $237 billion = $2.805 trillion. As long as the Treasury pays the first $237 billion in revenue to the shareholders of our debt, there will be no default, and we will have $2.805 trillion left to spend. Again, default is taken off the table. Discussion over.
    What do you do with the remaining funds? You start funding core functions of government and those programs that people are already dependent on.
    Social Security (retirement and disability) – $848 billion
    Medicare – $505 billion
    Medicaid – $298 billion
    Defense – $582 billion
    Veterans – $83 billion
    Those expenditures account for roughly $2.3 trillion. The remaining half
    trillion can be prioritized as needed for other functions related to homeland
    security, national parks, or any other limited function. Hence, the debt ceiling
    is a built-in balanced budget mechanism. If Democrats want to fund other
    functions of government, they need to commit to a balanced budget. If they want to fund the HHS and the IRS, they need to get rid of Obamacare. If they want to fund the EPA, they need to get rid of the war on coal.
    The power of the purse manifest in the House of Representatives, in
    conjunction with the debt ceiling law, reflects democracy at work, especially
    with divided government. It’s time we stop peddling the myth of default, and
    start using our leverage to restore constitutional government and bring relief
    to those who are losing jobs and suffering from the high cost of living
    engendered by the harmful activities of the unconstitutional aspects of
    government.

    • Jesse4

      Sounds like all the economists in the world need to listen to your lecture on the effects of the default, which, by the way, isn’t a “myth.”
      Or, maybe it’s you that has a lot to learn.

      • garyinaz66

  • garyinaz66

    whats changed, other than a collectivist little tyrant and
    wannabe dicktater now occupies the white house

  • Jon Slater

    secret footage shows Ted Cruz planning the obamacare assault – http://youtu.be/KPL-qc3c1Yw

  • Jon H.

    Mr.s Cruz and Lee have read this matter just about right. They know better than most who Mr. Obama is as a politician. They can see him without his mask, walking about as an emperor without clothes. For the first time since President Reagan walked away from the bad Reikiavik deal with the Russians (prompting hue and cry from collectivists, appeasers, and so-called political moderates), the Republican House members of 2013 might just be able to move the country back toward a competitive form of Reaganism (ideas and all) and away from the anti-liberty, big government Republican socialists, like the Bush family, Rove, Krauthammer, and the Jack Kemp acolytes (e.g., Mr. Ryan and his crowd).

    Mr. Boehner has so far shown more spine and fortitude than I had reason to credit. He and his Conference may just be in a position to break the back of this leftist (anti-liberal) president and save the republic for future generations, and restore the rule of law back to American politics and economics. They must remember: Mr. Obama is an institution wrecker. He is not guided by the same principles and philosophies which have guided most presidents before him. He is like Wilson not like Kennedy. This makes him particularly dangerous.

  • Areader

    Ted Cruz is flat out wrong! The Republicans are not winning at all. America clearly has pinned the blame of the government shutdown on the Republicans with him at the wheel leading the charge!.

    • Hawkeye Davis

      Ted Cruz is flat out right about one thing! Texans voted him into office to help get obamacare repealed. I voted for Ted Cruz and I will keep voting for him.

  • labman57

    The imposed government shutdown and threat of a national debt default — unless the ACA is repealed/defunded … and domestic petroleum drilling is expanded … and most environmental regulations are discontinued … and the Keystone pipeline is approved … and efforts to provide consumer protections against abuse within the banking industry are derailed … and women are denied access to affordable contraceptives … and so forth and so on — is akin to a kidnapper who holds a gun to the abductee’s head while making random demands, defiantly proclaiming that any harm done to the victim will be the fault of the family members who don’t comply with his ultimatums.

    Furthermore, the only Congressional Republicans who do not fear the political repercussions of the ongoing government shutdown are those who refuse to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors.

    And after the debt limit isn’t raised and the national economy tanks — with rippling damage to the global economy, will Ryan, Gohmert, and their self-serving cohort in the House thump their chests and declare “I did that!”, or will they sheepishly utter “oops!” and slink into the shadows?

    Alas, House Republican legislators continue to reside in a political bubble — isolated from the world of verifiable facts and true public opinion — where the only voices that they hear are the reverberating echoes of their own reality-devoid rhetoric.

    • Arizona_Don

      Just a couple of questions for you.

      Do you believe we can barrow and spend our way into prosperity?

      Do you believe it is possible to tax our way to prosperity and to a balanced budget or better yet out of debt?

  • Jose Perez

    Gracias TED, Finally some one with cojones to tell the true.

  • Jose Perez

    Democrats= more taxes for middle class to buy poor people votes with our hard money work.
    Democrats loves poor people, that’s what they want to keep it that way. without poor people who will need Democrats.

  • Al Swearengen

    One chamber of one branch of gov’t doesn’t get to hold the world’s economy hostage to get their way. If Republicans want to rule, win more elections. That is the American way.

    The House election is not the election that “Rules them all”. The Senate and Presidential elections count just as much. Republicans don’t get to declare themselves the dictator of us through winning 1 of 3.

  • Hawkeye Davis

    When it comes to passing bills Congress has the same legal rights as the President or the Senate. It is not unusual for one branch of government to stop a bill. It happens all the time. If all three can not reach an agreement the bill is not passed. Some bills are never passed. This bill is no different than any other bill.

    Republicans control Congress the same as Democrats control the Senate. Neither body can be forced to pass a bill. Not even the President can force them to pass a bill.

    The framers of the constitution made Congress one of three SEPARATE but EQUAL branches of government All three branches have “checks and balances” over each other to maintain the balance.

    The framers of the constitution did not make the President a god or king. He is just part of one of three SEPARATE but EQUAL branches of government.
    .

    • Fresh_Prints

      Very true, that’s why Obamacare was passed by the congress before being passed by the senate, then signed by the president, validated by the supreme court, and finally an election fought over it. That’s how laws are made.

  • Delores109

    SPEAKER JOHN BOEHNER,
    Bring up an immediate bill in the House that orders Treasury Secretary Lew to prioritize debts at ALL times. As of this moment Lew does not have a Law to force him to prioritize when paying debts. This gives him the freedom to create a default.
    Also, request a list of debts, dates due, amounts due, a description of the debts and all funds needed by the Treasury to justify the need for an increase in the debt limit. Have Lew send the information to you immediately, so that you can bring the bill to the floor for an immediate vote, after you have reviewed the info. Speaker Boehner, the House of Representatives has the power of the purse, and this info is essential for prioritizing debts, and preventing the games that Obama, Reid, and Lew are playing.
    Delores Smith
    Delores109@cox.net

  • barrystock

    Has anyone made a “Downfall” Hitler video for John Boehner yet, plotting the pincer-like movements of the various inexorable forces bearing down upon his suspiciously-colored countenance?

  • Roy Austin Smith

    Stand with cruz.

  • Darth_Barney

    I see you’ve edited your original post into oblivion, you know, this one (that made it to my inbox).

    “you need to speak up louder to you Rep ‘republican’

    tell him/her you like Obamacare and they should surrender to Obama immediately

    go on … do it precious .. .or you will be letting your hero down

    the rest of us will keep our HOR Reps on SPEED DIAL … for LIBERTY and for FREEDOM

    not this un-American socialised healthcare BULLSCHMIDT”

    Good thing, cuz I would have tore you to shreds. In YOUR view and your crazy batscat wingnut crazy, socialisms is perfectly fine, so long as it supports one of your causes, like say the oil-n-gas industry, ranchers, etc., but here’s what’s special about America, you don’t get to tell me what to say to my Rep and I can still call you out for being batscat crazy…

  • Darth_Barney

    I see you’ve edited your original post into oblivion, you know, this one (that made it to my inbox).

    “you need to speak up louder to you Rep ‘republican’

    tell him/her you like Obamacare and they should surrender to Obama immediately

    go on … do it precious .. .or you will be letting your hero down

    the rest of us will keep our HOR Reps on SPEED DIAL … for LIBERTY and for FREEDOM

    not this un-American socialised healthcare BULLSCHMIDT”

    Good thing, cuz I would have tore you to shreds. In YOUR view and your crazy batscat wingnut crazy, socialisms is perfectly fine, so long as it supports one of your causes, like say the oil-n-gas industry, ranchers, etc., but here’s what’s special about America, you don’t get to tell me what to say to my Rep and I can still call you out for being batscat crazy…

    • Exodus2011

      no, I didn’t edit, I lost my post with the 2nd ID I use

      here it is again – unedited

      “you need to speak up louder to your Rep ‘republican’
      tell him/her you like Obamacare and they should surrender to Obama immediately

      go on … do it precious .. .or you will be letting your hero down”

      the rest of us will keep our HOR Reps on SPEED DIAL … for LIBERTY and for FREEDOM

      not this un-American socialised healthcare BULLSCHMIDT”

      • Darth_Barney

        Yet you’d presumably like us to be able to compete on a global scale with every other western civilized nation who already offers health care to every citizen.

        To quote from Forest Gump, “stupid is as stupid does“.

    • Exodus2011

      now that is settled – find me on current articles if you wanna discuss your whiteflag tactics any further

      “republican*

  • lottopol

    Communism which once prevailed in the entire “second world”
    persists today only in North Korea
    and Cuba.
    Communism failed because of the basic laws of supply and demand which form the
    basis of economics. Among developed nations, market-priced medical care
    persists only in the USA.
    It is those same fundamental principals of economics, not humanitarian
    concerns, which will eventually end market-priced medical care in the USA. Investors
    who ignore this do so at their peril.

    For 75 years, it was said that Roosevelt’s
    New Deal saved capitalism. By softening the rough edges of the free market
    capitalism with reforms such as social security and unemployment insurance, FDR
    may have prevented adoption of much more radical changes.

    75 years from today it is unlikely that anyone will think
    Obama saved market-priced medical care. Rather, he only prolonged it, and that
    will not be thought of as a good thing. In the developed world, market-priced
    medical care still exists only in the USA. It is only a matter of time
    until market-priced medical care joins communism, slavery, racial segregation
    and fascism as systems that no longer exist in developed nations.

    The USA
    is the last holdout with market-priced medical care not because of any inherent
    conservative or free market ideology. Rather, as the wealthiest nation that
    ever existed we are the last ones who can afford it. Switzerland was one of the last
    advanced economies to abandon market-priced medical care. It is arguably a greater
    bastion of conservatism than the USA. Switzerland’s women were not granted the right to vote until 1971.

    During the debate as to whether Switzerland would abandon
    market-priced medical care there was considerable concern about how it would
    affect the major Swiss pharmaceutical giants such as Hoffmann-La Roche (RHHBY)
    and Novartis (NVS) which was Sandoz prior
    to the merger with Ciba in 1996. However, it was then realized that the Swiss pharmaceutical
    giants made much of their profits in the American market.

    The reason that no nation, including the wealthiest can
    allow markets to set the prices of medical care indefinitely is that demand for
    medical care is inelastic. Demand for a good or service is inelastic if a
    percentage increase in price results in a smaller percentage decrease in the
    quantity demanded. Basic economics tells us that sellers facing inelastic
    demand will continuously raise prices until prices reach the elastic portion of
    the demand curve. Consequently in every developed country in the world, all goods
    or services with inelastic demand have their prices regulated by government.
    Medical care in the USA
    being the only exception.

    Health care is one of the very few things for which the
    sellers face inelastic demand. The prices of all other goods and services
    facing inelastic demand in the USA
    are regulated by government. Retail electricity service providers face
    inelastic demand. Consequently, their prices are strictly controlled by all governments
    worldwide, including the USA.

    The inelasticity of retail electricity is obvious. If Consolidated
    Edison (ED) or any other electric utility were to triple retail service prices,
    people might be a little more careful about turning off the lights. Turning off
    their refrigerators? Watching less television? Not likely. Thus, tripling the price would result in only
    a small reduction in kilowatt-hours sold. Almost all other goods and services
    are price elastic. That includes non-medically necessary elective cosmetic and
    lasik surgery whose prices have actually relatively decreased over time.
    Medical care in the USA
    is the only instance in any developed country where any product facing
    inelastic demand is not substantially price regulated.

    Medical prices are controlled in various ways in the rest of
    the developed world. In Japan,
    the land of $100 melons and tiny $10,000 per month apartments, all medical care
    prices are listed in a book, thicker than the Manhattan telephone directory. The prices set
    in the book are usually less than a third of those in the USA. An MRI
    that costs $1,200 in the USA
    costs $88 in Japan.
    Japanese insurance companies are private as are most doctors. Japan spends less than a third per capita on
    medical care than America.
    However, the Japanese are greater consumers of medical care than Americans. They
    visit doctors and hospitals more often, have much more diagnostic tests such as
    MRIs. They also have better health outcomes as measured by all metrics such as
    life expectancy. They also wait less for treatment than Americans do as
    Japanese doctors work much longer hours for their much lower incomes.

    Japan’s
    explicit price controls are roughly emulated in other countries via the use monopsonistic
    systems. Monopsony, meaning “single buyer” is the flip side of monopoly. A
    monopolist sets prices above free market equilibrium. A monopsonist sets prices
    below free market equilibrium. It does not matter if there is an actual single
    payer or many buyers (or payers) whose prices are set by the government or by
    insurance companies in collusion with each other. More competition among
    sellers generally leads to lower prices. However, more competition among buyers
    leads to higher prices. In the health insurance industry the beneficial effects
    of more insurance companies competing for patients are far outweighed by the
    adverse effects of insurance companies competing for doctors and hospitals in
    their HMO plans. This was completely misunderstood during the recent debate on
    health care reform. With health care, more competition among insurance
    companies on balance results in higher prices.

    Focusing attention on the insurance companies, which are
    simply intermediaries between the doctors and the patients, was a tragic error.
    It would like trying to solve a problem of high energy prices by focusing on
    gasoline stations. Only if the government sets prices can health care prices be controlled. Controlling prices does
    not automatically result in longer waiting times. Japan
    and Switzerland generally have
    shorter waiting times to see doctors than does the USA. Additionally, if prices were
    controlled there would be no such thing as “in-network” or “out-of-network”
    since all doctors would accept all insurance plans….”
    http://seekingalpha.com/article/1647632

  • Fresh_Prints

    I suspect Ted Cruz is actually a Democratic plant whose purpose was to infiltrate the GOP and destroy it from within. Canadians are devious like that.

  • 1josephg1

    we don’t want barry care. Never have, never will. No matter what happens now I know there are millions of us that will never ever stop until barry and barry care are a bad memory. This is no longer the United States, Divisions are so deep they run to the very being of our souls. Lefties think they can murder little ones and with our tax money to boot. They lefties think it is ok for adam and steve to swap spit on the corner but if you say a prayer in public you should be in jail. The lefties think it is ok to break the law and then reward the illegals with citizenship when so many others obeyed the law and did things right. I can go on and on. Here is an idea. we will spit the states. lefties take 25 the Right takes the other 25. Then you lefties can tax yourselves and abort yourselves to death.

  • BenDoubleCrossed

    The Constitution requires Congress to pass a budget every year. Not passing a budget for five years has enabled Obama to use the argument “America has never defaulted on its debt” to demand increases in the debt limit. If budgets had been passed, they would reveal a President and a government spending
    beyond their means.

    Outrageous is a government that:

    • Has not passed a budget in years
    • Borrows 40 cents of every dollar spent
    • Acknowledges existing entitlements, Social Security and Medicare, are going broke
    • Yet claims a government takeover of healthcare, Obamacare, will save money!

    Ma and Pa have to live within a budget. Why shouldn’t Uncle Sam?

    The fact a majority of Republican Senators voted for cloture confirms my suspicion both parties want Obamacare.

    Big government wants to grow continually. But the economy is stagnant and unemployment is high. How can government squeeze more money from the electorate and avoid revolt?

    Pretend great concern for Americans without healthcare. Subsidize the poor so they can afford a policy. Tax only those who refuse to buy. Implement thru State exchanges and expansion of State Medicaid programs.

    Uncle Sam takes over 1/6th of the economy and adds healthcare information to its NSA database on each citizen. Growth of government regulation, bureaucracy and control is satisfied.

    Most State governments have balanced budget requirements and have more money in reserve than Uncle Sam. A carrot, a few years of federal government subsidies, eventually stiff the States with the unfunded mandate, the cost of continuing expanded Medicaid systems.

    America has always had uninsured and cost shifting, over charging patients with good healthcare policies, paid for services to the uninsured. But as America moved from a manufacturing based economy to a service economy, COAs were added and increased because service jobs paid less and service companies had smaller margins. And now a Baby Boom generation approaching retirement and high unemployment are creating and upside down pyramid where a smaller number of workers, making lower wages, leave little to be cost shifted.

    So Obamacare is bailout for the health care industry. Private health insurance companies are promised a large new customer base in return for accepting pre-existing conditions. But actuarial tables require healthy young people, traditionally uninsured, to purchase health care policies to balance the equation.

    Health insurance companies get a temporary reprieve and a As Harry Reid admits this will ultimately result in a central government run single payer system.

    We must defund Obamacare or Free Enterprise is only a slogan.
    If Republicans don’t defund ‘single payer’ is the next stop for this train wreck!
    Crony capitalism refers to a state of affairs in which insider corruption, nepotism and cartels dominate the system.

    By what right does government determine that Americans are spending too much on medical care? Why is 1/6th of the economy too much? And why should we believe a government that is spending the country into oblivion and has not passed a budget in over four years can save money in health care?
    Insurance is defined by risk and investment. When government requires every citizen to purchase healthcare from private insurers risk is removed. Insurers cannot be allowed to fail, government becomes the re-insurer and tax payers are on the hook for losses that would prevent the insurer from meeting obligations.

    Central government wants to continue to grow and insinuate itself into every aspect of our lives. But government policies have created a non-growth economy. The only way to grow government is by forcing Americans into a single payer system and usurping the capital formation of private health insurance companies.

    Communist and socialist countries in Europe have proven free enterprise offers better health care than government run single payer. The wealthy from those countries came to America for treatment. And the system Obamacare is replacing was less costly and more efficient than what Obamacare has already wrought.

    Defunding Obamacare is America’s last shot at retaining the values that once made this country great. Remember “the problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people’s money”.

  • stasis

    Cruz has a big ego and nothing to lose.

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