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September 2, 2014

Filibuster the House CR? Cruz, Other Conservatives Say ‘Yes’ (Updated)

Updated 1:20 p.m. | Sen. Ted Cruz said Friday that Republican senators should, in effect, filibuster the House-passed continuing resolution in the Senate.

The Texas Republican is calling on his colleagues to oppose limiting debate on it, warning against what he calls procedural trickery.

“Step two is the Senate, where all accounts suggest Harry Reid plans to use procedural gimmicks to try to add funding back in for Obamacare,” Cruz said. “If Reid pursues this plan — if he insists on using a 50-vote threshold to fund Obamacare with a partisan vote of only Democrats — then I hope that every Senate Republican will stand together and oppose cloture on the bill in order to keep the House bill intact and not let Harry Reid add Obamacare funding back in.”

“Now is a time for party unity; Senate Republicans should stand side-by-side with courageous House Republicans,” Cruz said.

The statement underscores the unwinnable procedural hand faced by conservative senators, however. They know that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will move to strike out the Obamacare defunding language after getting the 60 votes needed to limit debate, but they can’t stop him without effectively endorsing a government shutdown.

The Nevada Democrat’s move is completely in keeping with long-standing Senate rules. Pending germane amendments and motions, such as a motion to strike, are allowed simple-majority votes after debate’s been limited.

“Republicans are simply postponing for a few days the inevitable choice they must face: pass a clean bill to fund the government, or force a shutdown. I have said it before but it seems to bear repeating: The Senate will not pass any bill that defunds or delays Obamacare,” Reid said in a Friday statement.

Cruz’s latest move appeared to be a reaction to criticism from House Republicans for seeming to admit defeat before they had even sent the Senate the CR.

Cruz’s statement also came shortly after the head of the Senate Conservatives Fund said likewise.

“Harry Reid needs 60 votes to approve his plan to fund Obamacare. If 41 Republicans stand strong and oppose cloture, they can defeat Reid’s plan to fund Obamacare. However, if Republicans waffle and vote for cloture, it will grease the skids for Reid’s plan to fund Obamacare. It’s pretty simple — any Republican who votes for cloture is voting to fund Obamacare,” SCF Executive Director Matt Hoskins said.

By asking Republicans to oppose any motion to invoke cloture, and thus limit debate, on the stopgap spending bill passed Friday by the Republican-led House — the one that does defund the health care overhaul — Cruz and Hoskins are literally calling for Republicans to filibuster the bill and, possibly, shut down the government in the process.

Hoskins goes directly at Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

“It’s time for Mitch McConnell to show some leadership and deliver the 41 votes needed to defeat cloture on Harry Reid’s plan to fund Obamacare,” Hoskins said. “Republicans like to say they are against Obamacare, but now is the time to prove it. Now is when it matters.”

Of course, if GOP senators actually follow Cruz and Hoskins’ advice, they will, in effect, be voting against a bill that includes Obamacare defunding. The vote to strike that language is not expected until after cloture is invoked, and it will take only 51 votes to succeed. That’s why Cruz may ultimately be proved correct when he says Democrats have the votes to send the measure back to the House, without Obamacare funding.

  • NHT1

    “By asking Republicans to oppose any motion to invoke cloture, and thus limit debate, on the stopgap spending bill passed Friday by the Republican-led House — the one that does defund the health care overhaul — Cruz and Hoskins are literally calling for Republicans to filibuster the bill and, possibly, shut down the government in the process.”

    Isn’t it worse than this. Aren’t they asking them to permanently shut down the government? What do they want to have happen? Any CR bill will ultimately have to go through the cloture process even if it happens after the beginning of a shutdown. Their positions is “we don’t want to let you end debate of any bill, even the one we’re proposing, since then we can’t use our minority to gum up the gears of government.”

    • I_Go_Pogo

      As with Morsi in Egypt, America will not recover unless, and until imam obama is removed from office in a similar manner.

      • RJC

        Yeah, that’ll happen. Why not spend your time thinking about ways to stop this administration that exist in this reality?

        • I_Go_Pogo

          An unthinkable idea, certainly. – Prior to the regime of obama, that is. And it is GUARANTEED to piss off progressive obama worshipers, so I see no downside.

          • http://www.apple.com/ Norm

            why do you tea nuts hate our President so much??? I’m fairly positive its because he is black, but come on!

          • libwithIQ

            Because he is criminally incompetent.

          • OneOut

            Hey Normnuts.

            I don’t like Pelosi or Reed either. Are you pretty sure it’s because they are white ?

            Norm you are clueless and a racist liberal to boot.

      • mo up in the northeast

        Did you get the Sept.23 edition of a tabloid known as the National Examiner? They are almost sold out in the stores near me. Not only does it talk of Obama’s brother’s ties with the Muslim Brotherhood, with Walid Shoebat claiming foundaton funds are going to Malik Obama’s 12 wives, but the scandal of his “orientation” is finally being discussed- with mention of Larry Sinclair, former Naval Intelligence Officer Wayne Madsen, Kevin Dujan, and Rev. James Manning. He may be impeached sooner than we all think. And Benghazi might just be the thing that gets that done.

        • usapatri0t

          was that the same edition with bat boy and the discovery of extra terrestials?

    • dr3yec

      Please shut her down , it wont hurt me one little bit.

    • TexMexInSanMarcos

      Shut it down! No one has money left after being TEA with more to come to go to the National Parks anyways! Shut it down!!!
      Cruz, you do what you need to do!

    • JCBINSC

      The shut down is and always has been a ploy, a ruse by D’s. The government will not shut down unless D’s make it so. Here is why: to avoid shut-down, all D’s have to do is pass a bill covering everything except Obamacare. So, D’s would have a choice: Choice 1: Shut down government in order to preserve Obamacare. 2. Choice 2 pass bill without Obamacare so that there is no shut down. If you do not like that they may face this choice, that is fine. If you consider this to be strong-arm tactics by R’s, that is fine. But, then you are merely in the position of having to justify the strong arm tactics D’s used to pass this bill to begin with. Unprecedented corruption and perversion of the system was used. All against the backdrop that Americans by a majority in poll after poll did not and do not want Obamacare. But, conservatives are familiar with the mental gymnastics D’s use to avoid, obscure, and deny this correct and realistic evaluation of the situation.

    • LouAnnWatson

      there have been no budgets from the senate and they have been ignoring the law for four years…this should not be happening. of course, you and your ship of fools are all for it,more handouts of other people’s money. bet none ofit is any of your contributions.

    • haydenma

      no, they are trying to save the country from the worst legislation to come down since social security. This will destroy jobs, business and healthcare if it goes through. There is no utopia in Obamacare, or food stamps, or welfare for that matter. Just more government dependency, wealth transfer and reduced economic output.

  • Ash Rdrr

    conservatives have been the gift that keeps on giving … to china …..weakening economy, gov shutdown causing credit downgrade therefore debt interest hike which pleases china, sequesteration weakening the army, outsoucing jobs, all funded by ‘oil for china’ koch bros http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/behind-the-curtain-exclusive-the-koch-brothers-secret-bank-96669.html?fb_action_ids=516868428396983&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_ref=.Ujf2hBoh8MA.like&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

    • I_Go_Pogo

      Still playing obama’s game of ‘pin the fail on the honky’, I see.

      • Arch_Angel7

        Not sure if its his “game” since Obama only signed the law. It was created originally by the Heritage foundation, implimented by romney in Mass. and only fell on hard times because it bears the name of our current President and will now be part of our history. A history you could have erased had romney won, but God has been on Obama’s side for two elections. The first election was a miracle, the second was destiny. Your arms are too short to box with GOD.

        • I_Go_Pogo

          Which god is that? Allah?

          • Arch_Angel7

            Whichever name you choose to use, the outcomes remain the same. Divine intervention is divine intervention, deny it all you want. Your problem is your prayers are not being answered now, are they? In fact, its been quite some time since God has heard from you so there is no mystery there.

          • I_Go_Pogo

            God told me that I’m ok, but that you are an a**hole. Selah.

          • Arch_Angel7

            You might want to check for horns, a tail and see if any God who uses that sort of language is carrying a pitchfork. I will pray for you.

        • Cristóbal Colón

          God doesn’t take side in politics IDIOT. FYI – That whole blame it on Romney is B.S. and if you had half a brain you would know two things THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION did NOT endorse Obamacare based on Romney Care, because Romney Care was actually Massachusetts Care voted for and added on to by the 90 percent DEMOCRAT controlled Mass Legislature. Secondly the DEMS in Mass changed and added billions to MASS Care long after Mitt left….it also was a STATE run program, NOT A MODEL for any other State or Country…pathetic.

          • Arch_Angel7

            Oh, so you presume to speak for God now. The only place God is not apparently, is in YOUR heart. Divine intervention happens, your belief nor your participation is required. No one said Heritage “endorsed” anything, Before you critic a post you should understand its content. That way you do not look like english is your second language. And heritage did begin the process of creating a healthcare plan that Romney modeled for Mass. even if it looks different today. It had to be “modified” for single state implimentation and multi-state implimentation, but they did start it. But you probably watch FoxNews so I will cease confusing you with facts.

        • idalily

          Obamacare was not “created” by the Heritage Foundation. One element of it was mentioned and discarded there. And even if it were, that makes it no less crappy.

          • Arch_Angel7

            Can you be a little more specific on what’s so “crappy”, please? I sold health insurance for a while and feel this is a much better deal fo consumers, not so much for insurance companies. Did you know that under the current system, insurance companies pay out about 8% of all collected premiums in benefits annually. They only cover healthy people to begin with and if you strat to cost them money they can kick you out of the system and NO OTHER CARRIER will take you due to “pre-existing conditions”. Did you know that were you uninsured and got pregnant you would be be denied because pregnancy is a “pre-existing condition”. You have never taken a call from a loyal customer who paid their premiums for decades, and the first time they get really sick their claims get denied and they spend years in limbo with mounting hospital bills because their carrier has tons of built in loopholes so they don’t have to pay. Buy me a beer and Iwill give you real horror stories about the system of today. Obamacare is already better, not perfect, but a far cry more humane then the old health care system. So please, explain to me “Crappy”.

          • idalily

            And you think now that Obamacare is here, things will be better for the CONSUMER? The rule of competition proves you wrong. The only change here is that the government will be the one to tell you what’s not covered, and you will have no other options. Force of competition will be gone. Your post shows you have no clue as to what this bill will mean for the consumer. There is also the issue of the employers who pay for their employees’ heath benefits. Employers are already cutting their workforces back to part time, laying people off. It will only get worse. Get a freakin’ clue. I am so tired of delusional liberal BS about this bill. It will solve nothing. It will further bankrupt us. Or do you still believe all that crap about how it’s going to be deficit neutral, even after the CBO came out and said, uh, no, it’s not? We cannot afford this. What part of WE ARE BROKE do liberals not get?

            And it is wrong, wrong, wrong for the government to force me to buy a product whether I want it or not.

            Lastly, if Obamacare is so wonderful, why did senators have to be bribed with kickbacks to pass it? Why did it have to be passed in the dead of night right before Xmas? With NO compromises with the opposition party and not a single R vote? If it’s going to be all beer and skittles, why are the majority of Americans AGAINST it? Because we know a crap sandwich when it’s being rammed down our throats. You obviously don’t. Seriously. Get a clue.

          • Arch_Angel7

            I gave you specific issues this bill addresses in a positive way. You, Only rant. You have read nothing that is in the legislation and you believe the BS that America,The wealthest nation in the world is “Broke”. AND, you are naieve enough to believe that Republican policies and obstruction are good for America and going to make things better LOL. Bottom line, ITS THE LAW, get over it. Your representatives should have come up with an alternative instead of just NO. Too late to negotiate now and remember, any idea, beats NO IDEA every day. So lets meet back here in 6 -8 months and see what America thiinks then. . Your knickers are in a knot over a fait accompli, because the lie they tell you about defunding it is all smoke, demonstrating once more just how gullible you can be.

          • idalily

            You’re dam right I’m RANTING. When one is faced with the fiscal collapse of one’s country, ranting is appropriate. And slavery was THE LAW once too. Slavery was a “fait accompli”.That didn’t make it right, or permanent. I will not “get over it.” Obamacare will not stand. If we are unable to have it repealed, it will bankrupt our nation all the faster, at which point, it will be dead anyway.

            And this myth the left keeps hammering that any idea is better than no idea is idiotic on two levels: (1) The R’s did have ideas, good ones, which the left pretends don’t exist (so they can claim that LIE that R’s just said no), and (2) Doing nothing IS better when doing something STUPID and financially irresponsible is the alternative. The first rule of medicine is DO NO HARM. Politicians should be so intelligent.

            And WE ARE BROKE. Why do liberals think like such children? We are 16 TRILLION dollars in the hole, half of which is thanks to Obama and the Dem-controlled Congress’s irresponsible spending. Add QE1, 2 and 3, and inflation is right around the corner.. And when his craptastic bill is in full force, we will plummet straight into fiscal collapse. If you think otherwise, you are simply an idiot. I am done even talking to you, because you clearly have NO CLUE what Obamacare will do to our employers, our GDP and our medicine. God save this country from imbeciles like you and all others like you who hold out their hands and wail gimme, gimme like children.

    • BillyBEAT

      durr durr durr right keep telling yourself that in your little libtard dream world

      • RJC

        Great contribution, your debate team must be missing you while you’re online schooling libtards

        • BillyBEAT

          It’s impossible to debate with delusional degenerates such as yourself who don’t live in reality.

          • RJC

            I think your DOPE BEATS have damaged your brain

    • Joe

      Your history is all wrong. Obama caused the downgrade. The Sequester was his and Jack Lew’s idea.

      Do you own any Apple products? Then you support off shoring of jobs.

    • Churchillis1

      TROLL ALERT!

    • teasacker

      Dude, your avatar is all wrong. You need a sheep, not a duck.

    • buffmuffin

      lol, talk to me again when you lose the senate in 2014.

    • K9Kahuna

      My god what an IDIOT you are to think everyone else is enough of one to believe that drivel. It’s beyond tired buddy, “no we’re not, YOU are” is a schoolyard chant, not a feasible adult argument. Just stop, and go away, we’ve heard it to a level of nausea and aren’t buying it. Get a clue and just give it up-nothing lasts forever.

    • LouAnnWatson

      yes the koch brothers are the beast and the false prophet of revelation…do you really have any functioning cells in that brain of yours? drive by trolls

    • Cristóbal Colón

      Ash for brains………Republicans shut it DOWN, and play the blame game starting NOW…..It’s ALL THE DEMOCRAT SENATES FAULT…..just keep saying it and saying it and saying it………idiot, our Country is dying due to LIBERAL policies and all you can do is blame the rich….clueless Low Information Voter. FYI – More jobs have gone overseas under Obama in 4 years than in the 8 years of Bush….so stick the union line somewhere the sun don’t shine.

    • mychildsfuture

      The Democrats have been in charge since before Obama was elected. They controlled BOTH Houses of Congress from 2006-08 when Bush was president. No coincidence the economy hit the skids 2 years later and Obama was elected. For 2 more years after that the Democrats controlled both Houses of Congress and the Presidency. During those 2 years our economy continued to sink and the Democrats gave us a trillion dollar deficit and Obamacare. Since the 2010 midterm elections the Republicans have controlled the House. Explain to us again how Republicans are running the economy into the ground while the Democrats continue to control the Senate and the White House?

    • haydenma

      Really? We’re beholden to China with 16 trill in debt because of Obumbler. Sequestration was HIS idea. Jobs are being outsourced, or just not coming back because the US is no longer a business friendly country for many industries. And, if we would just open up drilling here like in Nebraska, we’d be rolling in oil and money. Idiot.

    • TexMexInSanMarcos

      Actually, the Fed Res owns most of the Debt. Get yourself educated. Credit was downgraded when the Dems had control, sequesteration is Obama’s idea and we have our own oil and we’d use it if ALL the elite DEMS AND RINOS would get the hell out of the damned way.
      NO AMNESTY!!

  • RJC

    Cruz can’t filibuster Obamacare, it’s against procedure. And it’s a losing battle anyway, the American public doesn’t want a government shutdown and they’ll blame the Republicans if they get one

    It’s all BS pony-boy strutting anyway because Obama would veto anything that defunded Obamacare.

    • MrPete

      Only non-essential services and payments would stop. And the American Public most certainly wants Obamacare to be defeated.

      Time for the democrats to listen to their own constituency.

      • RJC

        That’s news to the American Public. 57% oppose defunding it according to the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Heritage Fund.

        The Republicans are marginalizing themselves.

    • K9Kahuna

      We don’t want A government shutdown, we want THIS government shut down.

      If you can’t see the difference you shouldn’t be participating in the political process.

      • RJC

        If you can’t understand that THIS government shutdown is A government shutdown you shouldn’t be participating in anything but a remedial English course.

    • buffmuffin

      Doesnt matter.

      Pass it and defund obamacare.

      Veto it an defund obamacare and the government.

      I’m happy either way.

    • LouAnnWatson

      they don’t want obamacare either

      • RJC

        Do me a favor and google “Poll Defunding Obamacare” and tell me what the polls say about that. You are misinformed.

    • lewis121701

      Who said we don’t want a shutdown? The lame stream media will blame the Republicans with lies and deceit.

    • adam brown

      I want a shutdown. We have local government for a reason. To hell with the Fed’s. They’ve ruined this country.

    • Cristóbal Colón

      Blame???? More like the Repukes should take credit for it, because when the checks and food stamps keep showing up NO ONE will care about a shutdown….just like in 1995 and the Repukes GAINED seats in the Senate and ONLY lost 2 seats in the House DESPITE it being a Prez Election year, 2014 is an off-year…..Repukes shut down the Gov and they will add to the House and take over the Senate.

  • SWDC

    Remember the 14 Republicans joined all 52 Democrats and 2 Independents to support the immigration bill.

    The 14 GOP senators who voted for the immigration bill are:

    Lindsey Graham (S.C.)
    Marco Rubio (Fla.)
    Lisa Murkowski (Alaska)
    Kelly Ayotte (N.H.)
    Jeffrey Chiesa (N.J.)
    Susan Collins (Maine)
    Bob Corker (Tenn.)
    Lamar Alexander (Tenn.)
    Orrin Hatch (Utah)
    Dean Heller (Nev.)
    John Hoeven (N.D.)
    Mark Kirk (Ill.)
    John McCain (Ariz.)
    Jeff Flake (Ariz.)

    Now who will be the “courageous” GOP senators indeed.

    • John (magnum)

      GO Ted GO !!!!!

      • John (magnum)

        • Fbuzaki

          Typical creepy republican, telling women what to do with their bodies.

          • fightback

            Typical creepy libtard, telling taxpayers what to do with their money.

      • Dugway

        But then there is John McCain.

      • Fbuzaki

        GO HILLARY GO!!!

    • marco a. poshar

      vote them OUT

    • seanpatriot

      And ALL will be voted out come 2014

      • chiefpayne

        All those who vote to support Obamacare will be…for SURE!

    • Cristóbal Colón

      Blame???? More like the Repukes should take credit for shutting down GOv, because when
      the checks and food stamps keep showing up NO ONE will care about a
      shutdown….just like in 1995 and the Repukes GAINED seats in the Senate
      and ONLY lost 2 seats in the House DESPITE it being a Prez Election
      year, 2014 is an off-year…..Repukes shut down the Gov and they will
      add to the House and take over the Senate.

      • SWDC

        Now in English

      • B. F.

        And the Democraps are responsible for the moral demise of this country. See, two can play at the name calling game. It’s a sign of a weak mind.

    • chiefpayne

      MY senators from Tennessee BETTER be courageous…or they will be OUT come next election!

      • idalily

        Tell them. Call their offices. Email, letters,whatever you have to do.

  • MacDaddyWatch

    American healthcare has been put on life support. Today the Cleveland Clinic….tomorrow the Mayo Clinic.

    • adam brown

      The Mayo Clinic’s name will be changed to the Mao Clinic

  • CADOLFAN

    Good let Barry shut down the govt

  • Churchillis1

    Do it! Filibuster, filibuster, filibuster! This thing MUST be defeated. If not now, when? If not Ted Cruz, who? Everyone, back him up! Hang tight REPUBLICANS!. WE CAN DO THIS!!!

    • Dugway

      But then… John McCain.

      • Churchillis1

        Seriously…

      • chiefpayne

        Even John has to answer to HIS constituents! We’ll see how much heat he can take.

        • RJC

          Well he did survive a Vietnamese prison camp, so probably more heat than you can offer

        • idalily

          Yeah, except that he declared his retirement next year.

    • I_Go_Pogo

      ‘Yes We Can’ – ‘We Are The People We’ve Been Waiting For’ – let’s ‘borrow’ these from obama, just for fun.

  • Karen Walker

    Way to go Senator Cruz. You are an inspiration to all conservatives wanting to abolish this Obamacare nightmare! America thanks you!

    • John Templeton

      How exactly in your mind does this work? The government shuts down, Reid is pressured into defunding Obamacare and the President agrees to defund his signature piece of legislation?

      Do you really think that will happen?

      • John (magnum)

        Better that than a civil war between the makers and the low life takers !

        • John Templeton

          Um. “Civil war”? You aren’t fully sane are you?

          • John (magnum)

            Why in the hell are people buying all the weapons and ammo then, or haven’t you been paying attention?

          • SWDC

            ‘Americans never give up your guns’ Pravda published December 28, 2012

          • RJC

            1 word- fear.

          • John (magnum)

            You are an idiot !

          • dnhook

            Wrong word. Pissed would be a better word.

          • mojorisin69

            Our founders warned us of a tyrannical government.

            The original purpose for the 2nd amendment was to arm the populous to stop just this.

            We conservatives are all that stands in your way. We will never be quiet or ever give up, period.

          • Fbuzaki

            Oh please, we’ve had two democrats winning two terms and they haven’t taken away your guns yet. You guys need new material.

          • Engage Gray Matter

            ….just pass a freaking budget. Your party can’t even do that!

          • SheepleUnite

            Sheeple, they are.

          • Dingbat7

            Oh, and Nancy Pelousy, Debbie Wasaman Schnitz, Chuck U. Schumer, and Harry the Body Reid are mentally balanced?

          • DontTredOnMe

            You forgot old Frankenstein..

          • Lokie

            You have no idea.

          • John (halfwit)

            No he isn’t fully sane. He spends his pathetic life ranting and raving in the comments section of Drudge articles. There is never any semblance of intelligence or coherence in any of his posts. I actually feel bad for him as his life must be miserable.

          • John (magnum)

            Sorry, I am not a liberal so I am fully sane !

          • John (halfwit)

            See….He is nothing if not predictable but still quite pathetic.

          • John (magnum)

            We knew you were a halfwit, thanks for confirming it !!

          • John (halfwit)

            I am mocking your name you idiot.

          • John (magnum)

            As I stated LOON, thanks for admitting you are a halfwit like all you liberal loon-a-ticks are!

          • John (halfwit)

            I guess mockery is lost on you.

            I must say though, you have a remarkable talent for saying absolutely nothing of substance in any of your posts. You remind me a lot of the right wing pundits. All yelling, no brains.

          • John (magnum)

            Well halfwit, go eff yourself now !

          • John (halfwit)

            You never get tired doing this? How sad is your life?

          • Guest

            No, he isn’t even partially sane. He spends his pathetic life writing inane drivel in the comments section of Drudge articles.

      • 12centuries

        If Obamacare is defunded, the House will likely pass continuing resolutions to fund the “necessary” parts of government. For example, the President wouldn’t dare to NOT sign a bill paying our soldiers, for example… the political fallout would be far too damaging. The Republicans could do that all day long.

        • Go_USA2012

          It’s basically what they passed today, any way.

        • chiefpayne

          Equine EXCREMENT! The President ALREADY tried to withhold paying soldiers! It happened April 2010…ask ANY soldier if it happened.
          That being said, I have NO PROBLEM with closing the government down.

        • delsmith

          Don’t be too sure about that. This president on more than one occasion has demonstrated a lack of concern for the military, period.

          • KikiEm

            Our troops do come to mind when Obama proposes sending 75,000 of them into Syria to search out, find and destroy Assad’s chemical weapons. That out to be a piece of cake! Close to 5,000 were killed in Iraq and we now have over 30,000 wounded troops. Obama always threatens to cut off their pay,,,whether thru sequestation or gov’t sutdown.

        • kat

          He hates and disrespects our military — he’d punish them first with no guilt.

        • SheepleUnite

          I dare him to not pay ‘his’ military. I personally know many who are outraged.

      • patmurphy1965

        lets hope so!

      • chiefpayne

        OBVIOUSLY NOT, John. HOWEVER, the BLAME for said shutdown will be FULLY on the Democrats and President.
        You see, the President REFUSES to speak to the Republicans…and so they fund everything BUT Obamacare. Obama and Reid refuse to look at it and the deadlock begins.
        Frankly, I have NO PROBLEM with the government shutting down. The last time it happened in the 1990s, was the FIRST time in MY lifetime I saw the debt clock running backwards.

      • delsmith

        No, it want happen but that’s because neither one of them gives a damn about the country. Even the so called low information folks
        are starting to see the destructive nature of the 2700 page pile
        of misguided garbage put out as legislation. Those with already marginal incomes are going to suffer early and the most as they’re

        dropped from 40 to 29 hours and considered as part time employees. I like it that the democrats are tightening their own noose for next November but I sure as hell don’t like what their doing to this nation.

      • edb73

        only two words will cause a government shut down over this program: Obama’s ego.

        • Tpgavin

          Oh really? The two words are Republican obstructionism.

          • edb73

            it’s only obstruction when it pertains to your king.

      • Kenny Shultz

        No it wont happen but now that we know what a horrible law Obama care is, We should discuss why millions are losing health care coverage and millions more are forced from full to part time like adults and stop calling each other names?

    • RJC

      All he’s doing is grandstanding- Obama will veto anything he manages to pass, and he can’t filibuster because it’s against Senate procedure. This is a ton of hot air from a loudmouthed politician, nothing more.

      • SWDC

        ‘Putin’s Wall Obama’s Fall’ published Sept 06, 2013 Pravda

      • desicon

        I will take this grand standing over all the surrendering of principles, common sense and whoring of values by the RINO’s

        • RJC

          Then you’ll watch as the Republican Party becomes a footnote while the rest of the country moves on from its outdated ideas. Even the POPE is further Left than the Republican Party of Texas

          • Ken Bentley

            You mean like Freedom?

          • RJC

            LOL – yeah, the freedom you offer gay people.

          • Ken Bentley

            How do you know what freedom I allow Gays?

            Ken Bentley

            CAD Department

            Munro Systems

            970-263-2246

          • Ken Bentley

            Or better yet…. You must think very highly of me to even consider that I have the power to grant Gays anything.
            But I do think that God grants freedom for Gays. The freedom to accept him or not.

            Ken Bentley

            CAD Department

            Munro Systems

            970-263-2246

          • idalily

            What outdated ideas? Like not spending what you don’t have? Like not printing money out of thin air (which is what QE1. QE2, and QE3 were) and creating inflation? Like not bankrupting the country? Like believing our Congressional representatives should live by the laws they pass for us? That they should not need to BRIBE senators with kickbacks to vote for craptastic legislation? Like asking them to do their jobs and pass a realistic budget that doesn’t spend us into oblivion to buy our votes? Like not getting spanked by the Russians with stupid red-line comments? Those outdated ideas?

          • RJC

            All of those things are worth fighting for, but making a donkey out of yourself in front of the Senate, trying to filibuster a BUDGET RESOLUTION (which can’t be filibustered by Senate rule), and voting against anti-discrimination laws isn’t going to get you there.

          • idalily

            If I understand the rules, there is time allotted to each side. If Cruz wants to use that time to make his case, and other R’s let him, then why not let him make that case? Or are you afraid of the debate? And I could go on all day about the rules broken by Dems, including the one about spending bills originating in the HOUSE.

            And WTH does anti-discrimination laws have to do with the debate on Obamacare? Answer: NOTHING. Stop using strawmen.

          • RJC

            It has plenty to do with Cruz’s character, and more to do with this issue than starting a civil war or Barack Obama’s birth certificate. If he’s only using his allotted time then it’s not a filibuster. He’s threatening a filibuster.

          • idalily

            I’m not sure Senate rules allow for a true filibuster. And I’m curious, what about Cruz’s character do you object to?

    • John (magnum)

      One true American, Mr. Ted Cruz !

      • RJC

        One true Canadian, Mr. Ted Cruz !

        • DC555

          He’s American! He has a US passport.

          • SWDC

            Where was POTUS’s passport issued and from where in 1981?

          • DC555

            Why is that relevant to Cruz?

          • SWDC

            transparency

          • WordsAreSmallThings

            Hope & Change? Just guessing.

          • edb73

            …when he traveled at the time to the restricted country of Pakistan?

          • Jon Elmer

            Travel to Pakistan was not restricted in 1981. Yet another failed Birther lie. Try and do better

          • edb73

            How about when he visited a madras in Pakistan? Is that better?

          • WordsAreSmallThings

            Comrade, you ask too many questions…this could be dangerous.

          • SWDC

            As in what’s up with the murder case of the Federal witness in the 2008 passport breach case? Lt Harris, I think that’s the young man’s name….

          • SWDC

            As in what’s up with the murder case of the Federal witness in the 2008 passport breach case? Lt Harris, I think that’s the young man’s name….as reported in the Washington Times Saturday, April 19, 2008

            “A key witness in a federal probe into passport information stolen from the State Department was fatally shot in front of a District church, the Metropolitan Police Department said yesterday.

            Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24, who had been cooperating with a federal investigators, was found late Thursday night slumped dead inside a car, in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast, said Cmdr. M….”

          • Skyborn

            She’s talking about Cruz. I made the same mistake.

          • mojorisin69

            Cruz was born in Calgary in December 1970 to an American mother, making him an “instant U.S. citizen.”

          • DOCWRIGHT

            Not just an instant U.S. Citizen but a Natural Born American … you know, the kind that can Constitutionally become President of the United States of America.

          • WordsAreSmallThings

            They are scared senseless of Ted Cruz, especially after all the whoring they’ve done for the Hispanic vote.

          • Skyborn

            On your side. If Bathhouse Barry is a citizen, Cruz is also, except Cruz is real and Barry is ???????

          • Skyborn

            Yea, and a Social Security number also! (where he got it doesn’t seem to matter.)

          • DC555

            Why would it matter? What are you implying? Cruz is a legitimate US citizen. Why is this even an issue with you?

          • Skyborn

            DC555 I was referring to Bathhouse Barry in the above comment. Several posts have gotten between the one that I was commenting on. I am on your side. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Cruz for Pres!

        • Dingbat7

          One true Kenyan/Indonesian, Mr. Barry Soetoro!

        • president goofball

          One true Kenyon, (or is that Indonesian?), Barry Obama!

          • WordsAreSmallThings

            Our Nation’s first Affirmative Action President!! Now, about that dad-gummed Putin! (Image of Barry Sotero scratching his head and looking perplexed).

        • marketcomp

          And you are one true racist!

          • Engage Gray Matter

            3…2….1…. Ding, ding, ding! You just knew some idiot was going to play the race card.

          • RJC

            “Race card”? All hail the superior Canadian race?

            whiskey tango foxtrot

          • Engage Gray Matter

            Indeed. Look at marketcomp’s comment. There it is… Simply calling Obama a Kenyan is not in and of itself racist. I don’t get mad when someone identifies me as Irish… even if I wasn’t born there.

          • nancym14

            Dont be mad because Mr. Cruz released his true info and Fauxrack Fauxbama forged his and wont even release his affirmative action admission college grades. Fauxbama is such a dummer LOL. If it wasnt for all the people that have covered for his stupidness he would have never made it to where he is at today. GO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!!! Two stark differences here Fauxbama is a loser and Ted Cruz is a patriot.

          • RJC

            I think the word you’re looking for is “stupidity”

            I’m afraid stupidness isn’t a word in this language.

          • prolifeconservative

            That’s all they have. A looser for a President and the race card. Obumster is known as the worst President in history, worse than peanut head Carter.

          • Heres one

            Racist, Racist, idiots with no constructive comments use racist.

          • Tpgavin

            No. The statement made by murphy is the definition of racism. Look the word up in the dictionary if you own one.

          • patmurphy1965

            truth is not racism.

          • Tpgavin

            No Holmes. Racism is not truth.

          • jlfliberty

            What a small mans comment, stick your thumb back in your mouth little one.

          • mojorisin69

            The racism card is completely worn out. Everything is now officially racist.

            My comment ^^^ was racist. I apologize.

          • Daniel Williams

            Don’t you know that it’s EVEN MORE RACIST to joke about racism?

            It’s too sanctified a subject to joke about. Racism is inviolate. You can’t question it. It ends all discussion. It’s a mathematical constant.

          • DOCWRIGHT

            How did you get “you are one true racist” from Bobs post? Race was not even mentioned in Bobs post.

        • http://www.mikehunt.com/ Mike Hunt

          good one!

        • patmurphy1965

          I’ll take a Canadian over a Kenyan any day!

          • Tpgavin

            Because you’re a racist.

          • ChinMullet

            Truth is never racist. It is Truth.

          • Bladerunner666

            But this is what liberal progressives do, there is no debate, it’s their way or you are racist, homophobic, gun loving, Christian or any faith besides Islam and want to starve children and throw Grandma over a cliff.

          • SheepleUnite

            We need more people like you.

          • RJC

            News flash, guy – the commmenter that brought racism into this was saying I was racist for saying Cruz was Canadian. But that’s just liberal progressives, right?

          • Tpgavin

            No bladerunner. To say one race is better than another IS racist. Pure and simple. That’s what Murphy said. Do you deny that or do you not follow simple logic? How do you know I am a progressive? Because I’m not racist? Do you think only non-Progressives are racist? The opposite of Progressive is Regressive. Should one be proud of that? Take your time figuring all that out. I’m heading out for a run.

          • Daniel Williams

            Racism! Racists are everywhere! They’re like Pokemon: you gotta catch ‘em all.

          • no1athomehere

            Tpgavin…aka Moron…not liking Canadians isn’t racist dimwit. Not liking blacks or hispanics or whites (yes, blacks and hispanics can be racist too) IS. It’s not that hard to understand…unless you’re a Progressive. Think about Frenchies…lots of people hate the French because of their superior attitude and smuggishness…and most of them are white. So there.

          • WordsAreSmallThings

            You lied. You said you were “outta here.” Why must Liberals lie?

          • disqus_p6hJ2yoKYN

            ” The opposite of Progressive is Regressive” . Good one. I can’t believe I didn’t think of that years ago.

          • Tpgavin

            Thanks disq! You’re the first positive response that I’ve gotten.

          • may40

            Be prepared it’s only going to get worse for those of us with conservative (logical) viewpoints.

          • prolifeconservative

            Obama is half white so that makes you a racist against the crackers, Tpgavin!!!!

          • Tpgavin

            White people are crackers? You’re 0 for 2 now. People like you should learn to stop digging when you are in a ditch.

          • prolifeconservative

            Not too smart are you? I was being facetious. Those that think of race first instead of focusing on the issue think no further than the color of the skin. That is why Obama has gotten away with his many lawless actions.

          • militant

            Because of the last 5 years.

          • Thomas Wainwright

            Tpgavin, nice play of the race card. I can’t fault you, there is no other play for your president……………………

          • Tpgavin

            My President? Not your President? He is President of the United States by definition, therefore the President of all citizens of the USA. If you are not a citizen, perhaps Cruz could help you out by asking the House to pass the Immigration Bill. Of course, you would have to wait 10 years and pay a fine, but you will be able to come out of the shadows.

          • Jon Elmer

            Perhaps Mr Wainwright is new to the United States, and is merely an observer, rather than participant, in our democratic process.

          • idalily

            If Obama is the President of all US citizens, maybe he shouldn’t tell those of the opposing political party to “sit in the back of the bus.” Maybe he should present a budget that even his own party and some members of the opposition party would vote for. Maybe he shouldn’t say stuff about the opposition party like, “If they bring a knife, we bring a gun.” Maybe he should ACT like the president of ALL US citizens. If he did that, I might regard him as that president.

          • Tpgavin

            idalily. you’re playing the greatest hits if you’re going back as far as that knife statement. I think he is acting like president of all the people. Don’t blame him for the partisan divide. Everytime he has put out his hand, it has been bitten. You can’t start with the leader of the opposition party-Mitch McConnell-who said his only goal was to see him fail.

          • idalily

            It is one of many of his greatest hits. He’s had plenty of them. He gins up emotions, sets people against each other.He is an agitator, constantly sowing the seeds of discontent: between races, between parties, between sexes.

            I do blame him for the divide. Why? Because HE IS THE CAUSE. And he is the catalyst. If you don’t see that, you’re blind. Put out his hand? That is a lie so blatant, it’s laughable. Got it bit? LOL. Aw, poor widdle pressy got his hand bit. Aw. The Senate Minority Leader made a mean little comment. Aw. We are talking about the President of the United States. The de facto leader of the free world. The sort who ought to be above petty snide comments about the opposing political party. Instead we have Obama, vicious jerk and pompous @$$ who in five years hasn’t done squat to fix any of the problems we face, but instead makes them worse.

          • Tpgavin

            Idalily-I think our exchange is indicative of the country’s divide, though more civil than some of my other exchanges, where I found myself responding to obvious racist statements and personal invective. But for you to say that I am blind because I don’t SEE that its all Obama’s fault is pretty telling. I think one of the curses of being a liberal is that you can see the fault of both sides. For you to say its all Obama after all the crap he has endured from having his citizenship questioned to being yelled at by a back bench Congressman during the State of the Union address shows me that the blinders may fit you. He divides people? Show me anything close to what Romney said during his famous 47% talk and I’ll concede that point. You can be snarky about my “bite the hand” comment, but the point is that the titular Senate Republican leader had no intention of compromise from the start.
            Your reference to the knife comment is ancient and laughable. Yes politics is a contact sport. Gins up emotions? That is part of leadership. The Gipper was pretty good at that don’t forget.

          • idalily

            Uh,no, liberals are unable to “see both sides”. That’s their problem. If liberals could “see both sides,” maybe they should admit that Dems also voted for the Iraq war, that it wasn’t ALL Bush’s fault, that the housing crash WAS caused by Dodd-Frank, and various other things. They might even concede that all their blather about the way Bush pronounced “nuclear” was not an indication of his IQ, especially after Obama mispronounced “corpseman.” Heck, if liberals could “see both sides” they might admit that Detroit, run for 50 years by liberal governance, is in trouble BECAUSE of their liberal fiscal policies. But no, liberals admit NO culpability for anything. That is their MO. They blame Republcans non-stop, 24/7, for EVERYTHING, even when the R’s haven’t had control of Congress for seven years.

            A liberal who could “see both sides” would admit that Obama is NOT a uniter, that his comments have (at the very least) made the divide WORSE. The knife-gun comment is indicative of his usual behavior. The “Republicans are evil, racist, anti-women, blah, blah, blah, ad nauseum, rinse, repeat,” is getting pretty old and tired, yet liberals keep right on saying it. If liberals really cared about erasing sexism, for example, WHY didn’t they jump on Filner, Weiner, Edwards, Clinton, etc.? Liberals see only one thing: their agenda. Scorched earth notwithstanding.

            And let’s recap a bit, here. I know politics is a contact sport. I never claimed otherwise. YOU, on the other hand, said that Obama has behaved like a POTUS for all, but when I demonstrated that is in fact NOT the case, you now try to change the argument to one justifying his divisive behavior with the defense that “politics is a contact sport.” No way I’m letting you get by with it. You can’t have it both ways. Either go with the contact sport analogy and admit Obama is NOT the above the fray guy you initially claimed him to be and is a divider, OR show me examples of how well he’s worked with the opposition party (oh, wait, you CAN’T.)

            Ginning up opposition is NOT behaving like a POTUS. It’s behaving like an agitator, and is unworthy of the office. As to leadership, Obama couldn’t lead baby ducks with popcorn. Which is why it was so pathetically easy for Putin to punk his @$$.

          • Tpgavin

            You get the last rant, there’s not enough energy and it is not worthwhile to combat your Fox News, Sean Hannity inspired talking points. Your monologue is full of non-sequitors and anti-intellectualism. One example: Dodd Frank came after the housing bust so how could it have caused it? Volume does not make accuracy. Have a nice life.

          • idalily

            LOL. I don’t even listen to Hannity. Or watch Fox. The last resort when you’ve lost the argument is to throw out strawmen like that. Non sequiturs? Where? I notice how you don’t point them out (it’s sequitur, BTW, not sequitor, so you might want to learn how to spell it if you’re going to fling it around). Anti-intellectualism? What does that even MEAN? And if you don’t know about Dodd Frank, what they did and the sub prime mortgage crisis that ensued as a direct result of their actions (Fannie, Freddie, etc), I can’t help you. It happened right in front of you, and the fact that you don’t know about the part played by those two criminals shows your ignorance.

          • Tpgavin

            Throw it all up on the wall and see what sticks: typical tea party argument. What is this? the Schoolyard-Putin punked his ass-That 3rd grade logic is what leads to all your wars. Ask Bin Laden about getting punked by the way.

          • idalily

            Oh, please, the world is laughing at Obama about the red line debacle. Read the international news. Putin kicked his @$$. Face it. You voted for a prize fool. I also notice you provide NO facts to support your rant. I provided examples to make my point. You provide none. Typical leftist. Both sides? Bull.

          • Tpgavin

            First of all, I don’t rant. I try to make reasoned argument to points made. What you describe as facts to back up your argument are opinions, like I said “Fox News talking points”, with ad hominem insults thrown in, i.e. “typical leftist”. Unfortunately, there is way too much of that on this site and at large.
            As far as the red line, which the right has gleefully repeated again and again, would chemical weapon use by Assad been ok if Obama hadn’t said it? Bush made a gaffe about once a week, For Pete’s sake. In any case, Obama’s “gaffe” has led to some progress on the issue.

          • idalily

            Reasoned arguments? Really? Is that why you ignore facts? You say opinions, but the points I made were facts: Obama’s comments are on record, the housing crisis is well-documented for anyone willing to actually look, Detroit is a pit that can’t pay for street lights, yet has been governed for over five decades by the left side of the political aisle. These are facts. You ignored them, then claim you have a reasoned argument?

            As to the red line, you miss the point. Obama DID say it. It is a fact. He boxed the US into a corner and Putin trapped him there. Checkmate. READ the international news. The world is stunned (though I don’t know why) by Obama’s breathtaking lack of diplomatic skill. You think what Obama did denotes PROGRESS? OMG, how dense can you be?

            And Bush’s “gaffes” are no worse than Obama’s. At least Bush knows which cities are on the Gulf Coast and which are on the Atlantic Ocean.

          • Tpgavin

            Hey genius. I missed some of your pronouncements in your 2 A.M post. First of all, I didn’t realized how much of your approach to political discourse depended on spelling. I guess the search for your dictionary explains the middle of the night post. Dodd Frank was passed 2010 in response to the financial crisis, so HOW did it cause it. To use your words, if YOU don’t know that, I cant help you. Here’s the deal. You get your facts straight, I’ll use spell check.

          • idalily

            Uh, no, the post is explained by the fact that I happened to be awake. I didn’t realize there were rules about when a person can post. Seriously, is that what passes for debate in liberal circles these days? Criticizing the TIME someone posts?

            As to Dodd-Frank, I am not going to regurgitate the facts for you. LOOK THEM UP. Dodd-Frank was not the cause in itself but it was the catalyst, the breaking straw in a huge pile of idiocies, including repeal of Glass Steagall, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, etc. Learn the facts. I know you won’t bother because they don’t fit the “all Bush’s fault” narrative.

            You accuse me of not having the facts straight, yet you provide NO facts to dispute mine. You simply criticize the TIME at which I happened to post my comments and accuse me of not having my facts straight. This began with your contention that Obama was President of all citizens and should be granted the according respect, to which I responded that if he wants that respect, he ought to ACT like the President of all citizens, I gave FACTS to support that contention, and you then deflected the argument off to other issues. I’m done with this. I proved with FACTS that Obama has not behaved in the way you contended, and until he does, I have no intention of according him that respect. We are done. I refuse to waste any more time on you.

          • Tpgavin

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_reform

            You persist in saying that Dodd-Frank was a catalyst in the financial crisis. It was passed in 2010 after the financial crisis as you can see in the above reference, so how in God’s name could it have caused it? Your facts are just plain wrong, so I don’t think I can help you with anything else. Your post claims I offer no proof. HERE”S your PROOF. BTW, get a sense of humor. The time reference regarded your criticism of my spelling. It was a joke, which reminds of something else people like you lack.

          • idalily

            OMG, I really do have to spell this out for you. I am not talking about the Dodd Frank bill of 2010, I am tailking about their TIES to banking and lobbyists. For the love of God, does COUNTRYSIDE not ring a bell for you? Dodd was in it up to his neck with Countryside, and Frank was right behind him. Freddie, Fannie, the whole blinking show. Jesus, LEARN WHAT HAPPENED. Now, I will not respond to you again.

          • Tpgavin

            What a weasel you are. I wouldn’t respond to me either after I’ve publicly proven you to be wrong on the Dodd Frank Consumer Protection Act. You can’t cite me an independent reference to Dodd Frank prior to 2010, and you know it. Go troll somewhere else where the competition is weaker. And by the way, it is Countrywide, not Countryside! Geesh!

          • nancym14

            I think i can honestly say that i cant stand Fauxbama’s white side as much as his black side…

          • Tpgavin

            I’m sure we would like you too!

          • Doug Sickels

            First black president gets in and has, as his agenda to destroy this country? I’m an equal opportunity hater.

          • Tpgavin

            Racist and paranoid. A truly dangerous combination. I’m outta here!

          • WordsAreSmallThings

            Don’t let the screen door hit you in the a$$ on your way out.

          • WordsAreSmallThings

            You’re pathetic.

          • mojorisin69

            The word “Kenyan” is now officially racist LM A O

            Liberals are idiots

          • RJC

            The idea that you would judge someone on their nationality instead of as an individual is racist, yes. That is a perfect, textbook, almost so-dead-on-its-satire example of racism.

          • Buddhastyle

            I’m not convinced you understand the term “racist.” Race and nationality are completely different things, Yoda. It’s not racists to despise Canadians because they are Canadians. It’s just stupidity. Based on your initial comment I’m also not convinced you would recognize stupidity when it presents itself.

          • RJC

            I appreciate your athleticism – it takes real mental gymnastics to take a clear-cut example of racist hate-speech and turn it into something benign.

          • Buddhastyle

            It’s not benign, it’s DIFFERENT. You don’t call apples oranges just because they are both fruit, man. If you’re going to run your mouth online with such arrogant bravado regarding the certainty of your position then you better be within the jurisdiction of being correct.

          • RJC

            “Run your mouth”? You sound a lot like Buddha, bro.

            Can you be racist against Indian people? Or does that not count because it’s a country? Your logic isn’t even a circle, it’s a dead end dirt road

          • disqus_p6hJ2yoKYN

            No, we’re just smart enough to know what you mean when you call him a Kenyan of mention his middle name.

            Guess who the real idiot is? You’ll see him the next time you look in the mirror.

          • mojorisin69

            “Kenyan”….. belonging or relating to Kenya

        • dnhook

          D0uchebag. At least he’s not Kenyan.

        • adam brown
          • RJC

            LOL, that’s clear proof. No one in history ever printed anything that wasn’t 100% true ever.

          • adam brown

            Whatever you gotta tell yourself buddy.

          • WordsAreSmallThings

            You should have typed that in all caps – it’s more believable that way.

          • Skyborn

            Sorry RJC, but God printed something that is still %100% true. Called the Bible, specifically the King James Bible. Outside of that I agree with you.

          • RJC

            It’s too bad nobody ever got the Word of God before 1600 then, it’s a shame that God waited so long to print it. Is it still OK for me to murder my wife and her boyfriend, like they say in Deut 22:22? If the bible is still 100% true then that’s allowed, right?

          • dmmg2517

            Of course he was born in Kenya and hates American success

          • RJC

            Yeah, because clearly he has no American success.

          • adam brown

            Funny how I get voted down for posting Obama’s OWN literature.

          • RJC

            From a website saying it’s the End of Days… and for the fact that it was a brochure printed for one of Obama’s speaking engagements, not by anyone who had ever met Obama… and for its complete irrelevance to Ted Cruz

          • Guest

            Funny how I get downvoted *crying*

          • adam brown

            Haha. Obama could come out and admit it, and unseal everything they’ve sealed, and you would still worship him and say he was born in Hawaii.

          • WordsAreSmallThings

            Oh, and the creator of the brochure just coincidentally came up with “Kenya, Indonesia and Hawaii”? You’re right, though, Cruz is an American – by birth. Apples and oranges.

          • RJC

            Believe everything you read on the internet. Everything. Never question the information you’re given. Keep it up.

          • WordsAreSmallThings

            I don’t believe you. I have no idea where Barry Sorteo was born, and truthfully, I don’t care. He’s the President and will serve out his term and America will move on. I don’t need the Internet to know that. Here’s one for you that Barry wouldn’t like but I bet you will:

        • Bob Jones

          This is the fight A m e r i c a has been waiting for. The enemy is not Iraq, or Syria or Iran. The enemy are mentally ill liberals forcing bad legislation down our throats. It’s time to rise up and fight for our nation.

          • RJC

            Go ahead Bob, I’m sure the American people are right behind you and Aaron Alexis.

          • Jon Roth

            I got your back Bob

          • RJC

            In the absence of reason, debate, and compromise, there’s always violence, right?

          • John (magnum)

            You should effing know ! The vast majority of mass killings are from card carrying liberal loon-a-ticks !

          • adam brown

            In gun free zones I might add.

          • Fbuzaki

            You continually show republican ignorance on any given subject. Don’t worry we’re not going to take your gun away. I know you’re only about 5 ft. 4 and need your big gun.

          • Michael

            You will not listen to reason, you refuse to engage in any meaningful debate, and compromise is completely out of the question for you. I could cite examples, but this is a forum post, not a novel.

            So, instead of allowing you to run roughshod over everything this country was founded on, I’m willing to defend it with blood and woe.

            Do you expect me to feel bad about that? I don’t. Do you expect me to feel insulted? I don’t.

          • RJC

            I suppose this filibuster you’re defending is “debate” to you, right? And not an action designed to suppress debate and prevent voting?

          • Michael

            And passing a law before it is even written is supposed to encourage debate? How do you debate something you cannot read?

            And passing a law before it is even written is supposed to encourage voting? How can you vote for something without even reading it?

            You had time for debate, you pushed the bill through without allowing for it. Now I want it gone. And you call for debate? Too late, Sparky. You had your chance for meaningful debate, and you weaseled your way out of that. I’m sorry to say, but when dealing with you liberals, the time for talk is over.

          • RJC

            You will not listen to reason, you refuse to engage in any meaningful debate, and compromise is completely out of the question for you.

          • Michael

            So, you had no intelligent response and had to plagiarize mine?

            I wasn’t actually inviting you to engage in any of those things, just making a point that those things no longer exist in the liberal playbook, and that calling for them NOW, after all the other crap you pulled, is hypocritical to the extreme.

            Or are you trying to make a point that because I am not debating the subject with you now, even though you REFUSED to allow for debate when the law was being written, you are on the moral high ground?

            You keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. We’ve tried reasoning, we’ve tried debating, we’ve tried compromising. You’ve checked us at every turn. And now you’re ticked because we’ve decided we’re not going to play according to your rules any more.

            Pffft. Take your ball and go home, then, sissy.

          • idalily

            Actually, it is liberals who do this. Dems walked out of debate in Wisconsin and ran to Illinois to hide. Dems physically locked the doors to keep R’s out of debate on Obamacare. Harry Reid, Dem Senate Majority Leader, prevents any legislation from R’s in the House from being debated in the Senate.It is Dems who refuse to debate. Dems who need to bribe senators to pass their crappy ideas, Dems who must force their crappy ideas down our throats at the point of the IRS gun and discriminate via the IRS against their oppositiion. Dems who force public officials from the opposing party out of office with bogus legal charges that years later are proved bogus in court after the damage is done. Dems who use bogus lawsuits to force opposing governors from office. Dems who want to silence the free speech of conservative voices via jackboot ideas like the “Fairness Doctrine.” Shall I go on?

          • RJC

            What kills me is that you have so much good information but have such a blind spot on your Right. I agree with every single complaint that you just wrote, but since you’ve assumed that because I think Ted Cruz is a creep and a hypocrite and a showman with no substance, I must be an Obama donkrider.

            Giving your Republicans a pass won’t get you anywhere either, and Ted Cruz is an embarrassment trying to pull us back to the days where women were secretaries, gays were told to hate themselves, and you could have any type of politician you wanted as long as he was White Anglo-Saxon Protestant.

          • idalily

            I have no blind spot. YOU sneered at the “outdated ideas” of Ted Cruz. I disagreed. I think it’s far more important to have principles and stand for something, even if you lose, than it is to score political points. Also9, by bringing this battle, Cruz is forcing squishes to take a stand. If Harry Reid blocks the House bill and spurns debate, R’s can say it is REID who shut down the government. If the bill is put out and debated, and is voted on, everyone will be on record. The bill (when it fails–which it will) will go to conference with the House. IF the R’s have a spine (doubtful, but possible) they will refuse to compromise on this and simply pass individual CR’s to fund each part of the government except O-Care. Again, going to the Senate and Harry Reid, it will be DEMS blocking debate or voting down CR’s to keep government open. The House could play that game all day long. It’s Dems who can’t afford the long debate, because they will be the ones standing in the way. The only way R’s come out diminished by this is if they cave. But Cruz will have set himself apart by standing on principle, and if we are to have a prayer of saving this country men of principle will be needed. Personally, I don’t think the American people have the stomach to save our country. It is rotting and most people don’t even realize it.

          • WordsAreSmallThings

            Barry Sortero has drawn the Red Line (again). He has avowed there will be NO negotiations! Period. Mr. Sotero likes drawing Red Lines, doesn’t he? Must be a “Kenyan thang”.

          • Greg Barton

            Piglib ‘a sqealin’……

          • RJC

            Good contribution. You are clearly a high-information voter

          • Tpgavin

            Did you flunk Civics? Two houses of Congress passed legislation that the President signed. So you want to rise up? What does that mean? There is a way to overturn legislation, and in a successful Democracy, it is by political means.

          • idalily

            We are not a democracy. We are a Republic. So I think you might be the one who flunked civics.

          • Tpgavin

            Touche idalily. I was using the common vernacular as in “Western Democracies”. Eg, Israel is an important ally because it is the leading Mideast Democracy. It too is a Republic. I’ll be more careful next time, and I’ll see about some online civics classes.

          • Tpgavin

            P.S I’ll sign up Mr. Jones also.

          • disqus_p6hJ2yoKYN

            *yawn*

        • kat

          I’ll bet that, unlike Dingle Barry, Cruz will release all of his academic records. He has nothing to be ashamed of, unlike DBarry who sealed every f’n one of his. We still know nothing about him. We do know that he was never a professor, like his drones claim, he was a visiting lecturer, who’s lectures were so bad people stopped signing up for them after the first ones. The attendances dropped like flies. Most likely he didn’t have the team of professional writers programming a teleprompter for him — and we all know what he sounds like when he goes off it!!!!

          • RJC

            How’s this for an academic record? From an interview with his dorm roommate:

            “In addition to Mazin and Leitch, several fellow classmates who asked that their names not be used described the young Cruz with words like “abrasive,” “intense,” “strident,” “crank,” and “arrogant.” Four independently offered the word “creepy,” with some pointing to Cruz’s habit of donning a paisley bathrobe and walking to the opposite end of their dorm’s hallway where the female students lived.

            “I would end up fielding the [girls’] complaints: ‘Could you please keep your roommate out of our hallway?’” Mazin says”

      • mojorisin69

        Cruz for Prez

        • Anotha Texan

          He is not a natural born citizen so let’s stop with perverting the Constitution like the Marxist Progs do.

          • mojorisin69

            What’s a “natural born citizen”? The Constitution doesn’t say, but the Framers’ understanding, combined with statutes enacted by the First Congress, indicate that the phrase means both birth abroad to American parents — in a manner regulated by federal law — and birth within the nation’s territory regardless of parental citizenship.

            The Supreme Court has confirmed that definition on multiple occasions in various contexts.

            Cruz is eligible, period.

          • Jon Elmer

            Nice try, Mojo, but the “two parent” rule is a fiction of the Birthers. Cruz only needs one citizen parent to be a natural born citizen regardless of place of birth.

          • mojorisin69

            Anyone who is a citizen at birth — as opposed to someone who becomes a citizen later (“naturalizes”) or who isn’t a citizen at all — can be president.

            Was Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth? That’s an easy one. The Nationality Act of 1940 outlines which children become “nationals and citizens of the United States at birth.”

            In addition to those who are born in the United States or born outside the country to parents who were both citizens — or, interestingly, found in the United States without parents and no proof of birth elsewhere — citizenship goes to babies born to one American parent who has spent a certain number of years here.

          • Jon Elmer

            Ted Cruz does not need parents, plural, to be American citizens, to be born a Natural Born Citizen, regardless of Ted’s place of birth. The “two parent” rule is an old Birther canard, intended to discredit the eligibility of President Obama.
            Maybe we’re talking past each other, mojo, but continuing to insist that TWO parents must be citizens is factually wrong, and has been proven so repeatedly.

          • mojorisin69

            OR “citizenship goes to babies born to one American parent who has spent a certain number of years here.”

            It’s right there ^^^^

          • Jon Elmer

            “born outside the country to parents who were both citizens” You don’t need the phrase “parents who were both citizens” That is irrelevant. It’s right there. You’re correct the one citizen rule is applicable, because it ALWAYS is.
            Rephrase it:” Citizenship goes to babies born OUTSIDE the United States to one citizen parent.” Leave it at that.

          • ZipR22

            At the very least, we are moving in the right direction. Question is at the end will it mean anything.

            Check the Current Economy Situation

            http://www.dailyjobcuts.com
            -

          • Jon Elmer

            Good point. But,It’s not just the unemployment numbers, but the number of now permanently disabled former employed. When unemployment benefits run out, more and more people are leaving the workforce for good, claiming a “disability” . This continues to slow any “recovery” of the economy

          • hbnolikeee

            Are you mathematically challenged? Do you know what cooking the books means? There are almost 2 million fewer people working today. What planet does your brain reside on? The Planet Zip I think.

          • oeb25

            you’re full of crap — you can’t fudge to 40% increase in food stamp recipients on comrade zero’s watch. that’s a number that can’t be hidden or manipulated.

          • Highlanderclan

            The guvmint unemployment figures do not count those who have just given up looking for work.

            With that, and our guvmint now saying our national debt has now stopped growing you can rest easy that our country is now completely Orwell if we believe anything they say.

          • helpthelofo

            I agree. Just hold true to your gut, my friend.

          • http://mediajunkie.com/ xian

            you should learn the difference between the deficit and the debt. no one is saying the debt is going down. The deficit is down sharply, for a combination of reasons.

          • mojorisin69

            Awesome, except that’s exactly the way the Nationality act of 1940 was written.

            When you begin writing legislation you can write it any way you desire.

            At least 3 of comments include “single parent” phrasing

            Leave it at that.

          • alwaystayright

            “but they can’t stop him (dirty harry) without effectively endorsing a government shutdown”

            Sorry…But any Government shutdown lays at the feet of Dirty Harry & Obama…obama has given “Exclusions” to everyone EXCEPT the middle class citizen…How disgusting…Another media lie…

          • helpthelofo

            It’s all about fooling as many voters as you can. The low info voters are now competitive with the sages.

          • oeb25
          • Katepatate

            At this point, to quote an infamous woman, “What difference does it make?”

          • helpthelofo

            Drive it home, baby!!!

          • Cricket51

            You, Jon, like most others, are confusing ‘citizen’ with ‘natural born citizen;’ they are two different things.
            NBC applies only to POTUS and VPOTUS; the framers knew what they were doing, as they did not want the POTUS and VPOTUS to have any foreign allegiances.
            NBC=a child born in the country to citizen parentS. That’s parents. Plural.
            I like Cruz, but he doesn’t qualify, nor does Rubio, Jindal, or Haley

          • oeb25

            I know for a fact Cruz qualifies, in his case it doesn’t matter where he was born, his mother was a us citizen and had spent at least 5 years in US after her own 14th birthday. Commrade Zero’s mom had not met that requirement being only 18 when she gave birth to him — so it does matter where he was hatched. You don’t know the law, which is HERE http://london.usembassy.gov/cons_new/acs/passports/robirth.html

          • helpthelofo

            It will come down to John Roberts. Who knows how he’ll vote?

          • http://mediajunkie.com/ xian

            lol. the birther chickens coming home to roost.

          • Ken

            Citizenship yes, but not NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP.

          • oeb25

            for Zero to be a citizen from birth he’d have had to be whelped here, but if he was not dropped on US soil, he doesn’t qualify on the grounds his mother was only 18 when she gave birth aand thus had not met the mandatory “lived in the US 5 years” after her own 14th birthday. She was short by some months. THIS is the issue. http://london.usembassy.gov/cons_new/acs/passports/robirth.html

          • helpthelofo

            Your right. But now it doesn’t matter. Libs are evil and history never matters because it would expose them.

          • helpthelofo

            Relax, your right.

          • wriprodir

            Does that also include the “Two Social Security Number” rule. Please entertain us with your song and dance on that fact.

          • Jude O’Connor

            The bogus draft card too.

          • TripleA60

            The people who came up with ObamaCare and the people who brought it into law (without even reading it) has made themselves and their friends exempt from this law…
            Read that slowly a couple times… It is 100% factual.

            And the sheep shout yay…

          • PoopDemon

            Exactly!!!! That is all you need to know about Obama Care! These devil worshipers insisted on passing this bill without even reading it, then they themselves want to be exempt? If they are so confident in Obama care why are they wanting to be exempt?
            And that is all you need to know about Obamacare…

          • helpthelofo

            You did well in school.

          • disqus_NvGqSE9Prl

            yes that is true… but….. you have to use your REAL name…not oboobziee

          • hbnolikeee

            How about Duh Bumbler?

          • roberted

            If Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen, why did Congress attempt to amend the Constitution in 2000 to make someone foreign born a natural born citizen?

            http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/judiciary/hju67306.000/hju67306_0.htm

            http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pur1.32754070182286;view=1up;seq=1

            It failed.

            The reason was to try grease the path for Obama, (or someone like him). Congress also tried eight times to change the requirement for NBC by introducing bills, 2003 to 2007), they all failed also.

            Last resort, they changed Obama’s birth place from Kenya to Hawaii. The fraud worked.

          • Ken

            Good to see you got some truth on here.

          • roberted

            Thank you. The effectiveness over the years of the paid Obama trolls, Alinsky tactics and obfuscation of everything Obama has been hard to overcome.
            I do believe more people are finally starting to connect the dots on their own. The responses at various websites seem to show that. The first thing one has to overcome to post the truth is being called names, which is the number one Alinsky tactic.

            Is it too late? I hope not………and, by the way, I like Ted Cruz.

          • helpthelofo

            His grandma said as much.

          • billyboi57

            Obama has NO ALLEGIANCE to the United States and that alone makes him ineligible.

          • Ken

            Exacty

          • helpthelofo

            Liberalism, should be illegal. It only thrives on the lowest common denominator of mans condition.

          • Michael Campbell

            I have personal experience here, it matters not the nationality of the father, it is the the citizenship of the mother. My child is born to a German mother, so she is German with no US citizenship as we where not married at the time of her birth.

          • oeb25
          • oeb25

            had you married her mom and lived in the US at least 5 years past your own 14th birthday (or 2 depending what year your daughter was born) she’d be a US citizen from birth.

          • helpthelofo

            Please post again. Some of what you say, I understand and agree. The rest of what you say is a mess. I do want to understand what your saying.

          • oeb25

            But in Zero’s case it DOES matter where he was hatched. On US territory okay. But NOT so if whelped elsewhere. Because for Zero’s mom to pass on automatic citizenship from his birth, by the law at the time she would have had to have spent at least 5 years in the US past her own 14th birthday. Zero’s problem is she was only 18 when she gave birth to him. You can see the law at the US embassy website for what constitutes being able to pass on citizenship for a child born outside the US by one US parent. Transmission Requirements for U.S. Citizenship | Embassy of the United States http://london.usembassy.gov/cons_new/acs/passports/robirth.html

          • helpthelofo

            And that’s why the framers were so brilliant. Hubris in academia, is so very weak. And, they’ll never know, till the end.

          • Ken

            Your definition is totally wrong and has no fact in Law. NATURAL BORN CITIZEN = Born in Country to American Citizen Parents. You Know nothing of what you comment about.

          • Klaus

            This is what the Republicans have degenerated into — cheerleading laws passed by FDR. If I want FDR, I’ll vote for the real thing — Huma Clinton in 2016.

          • poh

            Wieners and cigars for everyone.

          • FLOYDINFLORIDA

            Rodney Carrington said it was Wieners and Beer?

          • FLOYDINFLORIDA

            Last time I checked FDR was a super duper Liberal Democrat Jack!

          • Ken

            You mean Killery = 4 Dead in Benghazi.

          • oeb25

            Ted was a citizen at birth — his mother had lived in the US at least 5 years after her own 14th birthday — Zero’s mom was only 18 when she whelped him. So it does matter where comrade Zero was dropped.

          • helpthelofo

            Your 5 down votes are feeling pain. Why? Fear. They know he’s special.

          • Robert Miller

            It gets even more convoluted than you think. When Congress passed the 14th amendment they created a new kind of citizenship. Congress did not have the authority to make the newly freed slaves citizens of the States they resided in so they make them citizens of Washington DC. Thereby granting them equal protection under the law. The U.S. Constitution does not apply in Washington D.C. because it is ruled by the Federal govt. The Constitution is a limit to Federal Authority in the States.

          • mcrchap

            Elmer, you have no basis for your statement. His mother is a citizen, and that has always been good enough. Obama would not have had the birther problem had he come clean from the start with solid evidence that he was not born in Kenya as his aunt said.

          • CommonSense

            But according to your logic it shouldn’t have mattered even if Obama was born in Kenya because no one disputes he had an American mother. Why would Cruz be eligible being born in Canada to an American mother and foreign father while Obama would not?

          • oeb25

            WRONG,. Cruz’s mom had lived the requisite 5 years in the US after her own 14th birthday. Comrade Zero’s mom was only 18 when she had him. In his case Zero would have had to have been hatched in the US – this is why the B/C is so important, because if what he presented is fake, not a damn thing he’s signed, including O’butthead care is legal. IT’S THE LAW. http://london.usembassy.gov/cons_new/acs/passports/robirth.html

          • CommonSense

            Yeah, I gotcha, you like Ted Cruz so he has one set of standards and since you hate the President he get’s another. Here’s some actual indisputable facts to chew on:

            http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-usa/

          • oeb25

            WRONG – you don’t know what you’re talking about. Zero wouldn’t qualify on the technicality that if he was hatched outside the US or territories his mother had NOT spent the required 5 years after her own birth in the US, because she was only 18 at the time — so it very much matters where he was hatched. http://london.usembassy.gov/cons_new/acs/passports/robirth.html

          • http://mediajunkie.com/ xian

            laughing at both of you. a fight to see who is more deluded!

          • UteDB

            You’re spot-on Jon Elmer. Check out dim bulb Anotha Texan above. A Dem low information voting troll w/ a second grade education.

          • Robert Miller

            The President is a natural born citizen. He was born in Hawaii of two citizens of the United States.

          • Donna

            Only his mother was born here, father not.

          • 12wlw12

            And the guy they claim to be his father is a British subject… not an American citizen.

          • Donna

            His whole family on both sides were commies.

          • Robert Miller

            When Sally Dunham’s father realized his daughter was going to have a baby by one of the top Soviet Agents in America. He realized his security clearence, and his career were finished! So Mr. Davis suggested he find another Black man to claim to be the father. Fortunately for Mr. Dunham he worked at a CIA supported school that brought over, and educated you African men. One of whom was Obama Sr.

          • jayballs

            I think the mistakes in his birth certificate was shown it was faked. I don’t believe he was born in the
            USA

          • Robert Miller

            Sally Dunham’s father was a CIA agent investigating the Communist infilltration of some of the Unions in Hawaii. His chief target was Frank Marshal Davis. Whom his daughter thougt was cool, and would sneak over to his house to listen to Jazz records.
            Google photos of the President, and compare them to photos of Obama Sr. and Frank Marshal Davis. Decide for yourself. Or let somebody else decide for you.

          • jayballs

            Yeah I saw those pics Obama def resembles Davis the communist. I saw the pics of Obama’s mother naked on Davis couch. ‘

          • hmastercylinder

            OR…
            Her father was a communist agent operating with Frank Marshall Davis, a far more likely event.
            Considering his place in the academy, CIA must be a fantasy. KGB maybe. CIA, no frikken way.

          • roberted

            He must be claiming a different father now, the original claim was a father who was born in Kenya and was never an American citizen. The born in Hawaii conversion occurred starting in 2007 when Congress failed 8 times to change the NBC requirement by introducing bills. They also tried and failed in 2000 to amend the Constitution to change the requirements of NBC, they failed there also. Because they failed to change the requirement for NBC they scrubbed the internet references to born in Kenya and converted Obama’s birthplace to Hawaii:

            http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/WhatToBelieve.htm

            http://theobamafile.com/_family/ObamasOfKenya.htm

          • 12wlw12

            Oh Robert, where have you been for the past 5-6 years?

          • Robert Miller

            to12wlw12:
            Funny thing is my girlfriend a N.Y. liberal and her mother both worked on his campaign in N.C. They voted for him, before I knew them. Both are sorry they voted for him.
            She showed me the video “Dreams of my Real Father” very well documented on his life including how he got into Harvard as a “C” student.

          • FLOYDINFLORIDA

            No he was not his mother was but his father was from Kenya!

          • Ken

            Who’s his Father, get real.

          • The Mad Jewess

            Wrong, to be PRESIDENT of the usA, one must have TWO parents born as Americans.
            Why are you shitting on a fellow conservative?
            You fire on friendlies.
            Sickening

          • hmastercylinder

            You’re just plain wrong.
            Wrong is wrong.
            And you are wrong on this issue.
            It is a well settled fact.
            Has been for over a hundred years.
            Get over it.
            Doesn’t make any of them less scummy, but one looks the fool if he is ignorant.

          • Ken

            If you would do a little Historical research, you would not make stupid comments like that.

          • Bshea

            If you read his post, you’ll see he wrote “parent[s]“. Mojo knows that one American parent makes you a citizen. Before spouting off, read the post.

          • Ken

            Bullshit Is that all you got. History proves you are wrong, Just read some History, John Brigham, some say Father of the 14th Amendment “ALL FROM OTHER LANDS, WHO BY TERM OF CONGRESSIONAL LAWS AND A COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR PROVISIONS BECAME NATURALIZED, ARE ADOPTED CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES; ALL OTHER PERSONS BORN WITHIN THE REPUBLIC, OF PARENTS OWING ALLEGIANCE TO NO OTHER SOVEREIGNTY, ARE NATURAL BORN CITIZENS, GENTLEMAN CAN FIND NO EXCEPTION TO THIS STATEMENT”. Now here is another statement on the Congressional floor by John Brigham in 1866, “EVERY HUMAN BEING BORN WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF PARENTS NOT OWING ALLEGIANCE TO ANY FOREIGN SOVEREIGNTY IS, IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE CONSTITUTION ITSELF, ARE NATURAL BORN CITIZENS”. (Cong. Globe 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866). learn History and learn what truth is.

          • Ken

            It seems to me this site does not want people to know the true historical meaning of NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, as I have written comments on this site that give what historical figures had to say about it and have been censured. I guess they will not allow truth.

          • helpthelofo

            Way to, “Rip The Net” on that one!!

          • ThyOracle

            I think that Cruz is eligible, but the Supreme Court has never ruled unambiguously on this.

          • idalily

            If Cruz runs for President, they will have to.

          • F M

            SCOTUS doesn’t “have to”. They only weigh in when a case is brought nefore them and they decide to take that case. That’s not to say it won’t happen, just that they’re not automatically required to decide it.

            Anyway since Cruz IS a citizen (which nobody disputes) and since he was never naturalized (the only other way to become a citizen, then he MUST be a Natural Born Citizen.
            QED.

          • idalily

            True, they don’t HAVE to, but I think a controversy that puts the election in jeopardy would impel them to act, ala Bush/Gore 2000.

            As to the Natural Born Citizen definition, purists may wail, but ultimately, the SCOTUS would rule that he was eligible to run. Which, if it happened, would have libs wailing for 8 years about the activist Republican court.

          • Klaus

            Cruz is a Canadian citizen. The Founding Fathers clearly did not want dual citizens to be President. If you had any allegiance to a foreign country, like Cruz does, you had to wait 14 years to demonstrate your loyalty to the United States.

          • hmastercylinder

            The ignorance on this thread is astounding!
            If you are married to a Canadian and go to visit her parents at Christmas, and the baby is born, only an ignoramus would insist it was a Canadian citizen.
            If you live in America, and give birth while traveling to Zimbabwe, your child is not Zimbabwean.
            The real problem with Obama is more complex, since his Mom and Dad were complete conmen their whole lives, so noone really knows what went on. They filled in identical forms with opposite information. Typical leftist commies.
            Obama sealing his life’s records created a veil of suspicion, which has never been lifted, because he lies all the time.
            But Cruz is American. Well decided law.
            Don’t be stupid.

          • hmastercylinder

            It is well accepted law.
            Get over it.
            Cruz is ours.

          • FLOYDINFLORIDA

            This needs to be analyzed and ruled on as this will come up over and over again every 4 years and it’s got to stop!

          • http://www.coreyspofford.com/ YEROCDROFFOPS

            But what about when only one parent is a citizen and the birth is abroad?

          • mojorisin69

            Read my comment below…

          • WordsAreSmallThings

            Wiki will clear it up for you.

          • DOCWRIGHT

            Still a natural born citizen of the United States of America per U.S. law.

          • TheCommentator

            So by that definition Obama has always been eligible too.

          • DOCWRIGHT

            True. He is a horrible President, the worst ever but he has always been eligible also.

          • may40

            Here’s the problem with this. Let’s see his transcripts…you know, the ones that noone can seem to produce and check to see if he registered as a foreign student.

          • TheCommentator

            Even if they said foreign student it wouldn’t change his citizenship & presidential eligibility. It would only be a violation in regard to his college applications & financial aid.

          • may40

            First of all we’d all see how he’s hoodwinked 51% of Americans and also we could see just how intelligent he was. Anyone who can’t hold a conversation without a teleprompter, um um um, may have not have gotten the education that he claims he had.

          • Fbuzaki

            You mean a TelePrompTer that every president has used?you righties are the most ignorant and disgusting people on this planet. Please know yournfactsbbefore you always distort and lie like fox and Limpbaugh.

          • hmastercylinder

            Besides’ his pants crease is impressive!
            We should have elected his dry cleaner.
            He couldn’t possibly be any worse.

          • Tpgavin

            I’d bet that Obama has more intelligence in a tenth of his brain that your tea party self.

          • Robert Miller

            President’s by commity are only as smart as the smartest man in the commity.

          • JasonL77

            And would also prove he relied on fraud to gain college admission.

          • wriprodir

            22 restricted documents. I’m sure there’s a TON of crap in there.,,

          • CommonSense

            But according to that logic that would make Cruz ineligible. You can’t have it both ways, and if it’s fine and dandy with you that Cruz was born in Canada then it shouldn’t matter if Obama had been born in Kenya

          • Donna

            But O is the President so far for five miserable years.

          • Donna

            In his book he said he was not born here. He is one mixed up dude.

          • Ronald Yunis

            It’s as simple as that, may40. It’s pretty clear that this is what he did. But since the MSM and everyone else seems to give this pathologically lying, worthless narcissist a pass on EVERYTHING, it now makes no difference.

          • wriprodir

            …unless he swears alliance to an enemy of the United States… the jury is still out on THAT one.

          • DrLeadBasedPaint

            Obama is NOT eligible. This is because of his parents and because he wasn’t born in the USA. Also, he is a citizen of Indonesia, NOT the USA. Oh… did I mention that his name is really Barry Soetoro, so there really isn’t even a person named Barack Hussein Obama?

          • Bluto Blutarski

            “Thank you Clarice. Thank you.”
            You’re dead on….

          • CommonSense

            Ok, but that would also make Cruz ineligible then (born in Canada to a Cuban father). Obama and Cruz are either both eligible because they had an American mother or neither are. You can’t have it both ways unless you want to be a partisan hack

          • KOKOMOGIRL

            Unless Stanley Dunham legally renounced her citizenship before his birth.

          • wriprodir

            Stanley? So he had a trangendered parent? Oh, that’s swell.

          • alan

            WHo is his mother? Was she an american citizen? If yes, then he was eligible. Nice to see you want to argue something that is 5 years old and not worth discussing.

          • Anotha Texan

            Did you travel back in time? Really interested in how you know what the “framers” understanding is…..

          • mojorisin69

            That single-parent requirement has been amended several times, but under the law in effect between 1952 and 1986 — Cruz was born in 1970 — someone must have a citizen parent who resided in the United States for at least 10 years, including five after the age of 14, in order to be considered a natural-born citizen. Cruz’s mother, Eleanor Darragh, was
            born in Delaware, lived most of her life in the United States, and gave birth to little Rafael Edward Cruz in her 30s.

            Eligible

          • DrLeadBasedPaint

            No, Cruz might be MORE eligible than Barry, but he is still ineligible.

          • Klaus

            Cruz is a Canadian citizen. He’s not American. Texans gave us Bush and LBJ. ¡No mas!

          • Greg Barton

            Anotha dumbass thinks the framers wrote nothing down…. FAIL TEXAN FAIL

          • Robert Miller

            They were more literate than the modern crowd, of politicians. They wrote quite a lot about their votes, and what their votes meant.
            Any literate person with a modicum of curiosity can read their opinions for themselves. You can start with the Federalist Papers

          • Aunti Occupy

            EVERYONE KNOWS

            You must be born on US Territory. That is what it means. Calgary, Canada is not US Territory unless his parents went to the US Embassy and registered the birth with the intent of establishing US Citizenship. But Cruz does have a Hawaiian birth certificate from the same hospital where Obama was born.

          • mojorisin69

            Someone is a little slow. At least one parent needs to be a US citizen and have lived in the US for at least 10 years.

            Still eligible

          • 88th infantry

            Thanks. I had a good LOL

          • tdperk

            Everybody knows? I know your wrong.

            Born to US citizen = natural born citizen.

          • JasonL77

            I know your wrong. (What?) That sentence makes no sense.

          • wriprodir

            Horsepoo… Aunti, have another drink… the Fleet is in.

          • WordsAreSmallThings

            You mean Cruz was born in Kenya?! I didn’t think they has hospitals there. Well, learn something new everyday on the ‘net. And why does Kenya use Hawaiian birth certificates?

          • Anotha Texan

            I refer you to A Commentary and Inquiry on the Laws of Nations. Chapter 19 Monsieur de Vattel. circa 1788

            According to Vattel, Cruz is not eligible.

          • tdperk

            And compared to the Constitution, which gives Congress the power to write naturalization law, I should care what Vattel’s opinion is why exactly.

          • Anotha Texan

            “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. ”

            A Commentary and Inquiry on the Laws of Nations. Chapter 19 Monsieur de Vattel. circa 1788

          • Spencer Jacobson

            So you admit the current president is a Natural Born Citizen because his mother is a citizen correct? Cause much like Obama, Cruz’s father isn’t a US Citizen.

          • wriprodir

            Frank Marshall Davis wasn’t an American citizen?

          • AFITgrad86

            Were his name on the birth certificate we’d understand why it was suppressed LOL

          • disqus_p6hJ2yoKYN

            He’s not eligible because he’s a friggin wacko.

          • Skyborn

            Go blow it out your nose p6h. Troll somewhere else where people who don’t have enough brains to think straight surf.

          • JasonL77

            Yes, Obama is a whacko…totally agree!

          • printingboy

            so Obama is a natural born citizen even if you are a birther since his mother was American regardless of where he was born.

          • wriprodir

            Sort of American… more Commie than American.

          • Klaus

            I don’t care what mumbo-jumbo you try to con the people with. Canadian Cruz is not American, and I will never vote for him. The GOP never learns, nominating candidates half of its party doesn’t want. As a former Reagan voter, I’ll vote for Huma Clinton before a foreigner like Cruz.

          • The Mad Jewess

            He is not natural born.
            He is an excellent statesman but he is not natural born.

          • Fbuzaki

            Cruz is not eligible because he wasn’t born on American soil like President Obama. You righties really need to move on like Barbara Bush said. Even she has more sense than the rest of you. You repugs are the most selfish and disgusting people on this planet.

          • Son of Liberty

            You’re an idiot, but you already know that.

          • The Mad Jewess

            “Framers”, so you are a liberal and believe that they were ‘framers.’
            They were the FOUNDERS–so, you believe the Constitution is a living doc just like your Comrade liberal buddies.
            Creep.

          • billyboi57

            Understanding the Founders intent and common sense says that they did not want someone to be president that had no allegiance to the country.

          • Ken

            You are wrong, NATURAL BORN CITIZEN means Born in Country to American Citizen Parents. You have 349 up votes, just shows how America has been dumb-downed by Low-information voters that have NO Idea about History. VERY VERY SAD. Cruz is not eligibe, Period.

          • Ken

            NATURAL BORN CITIZEN = Born in Country to American Citizen Parent. Period. Cruz is not eligible.

          • helpthelofo

            Funny!! Wow, 12 down votes are hoping the hell your wrong, and he’s NOT eligible!! I would love to read the posts answering why, he would not be a great POTUS!!

          • nancym14

            He is a citizen get a clue! rofl

          • RJC

            Comment of the day

          • Merlinxx

            Obama did it.

          • Anotha Texan

            He should be in jail. Forgery of citizenship documents to receive financial aid is a felony.

          • Greg Barton

            FAIL TEXAN FAIL
            FLAIL TEXAN FLAIL

          • Ken Bentley

            So is arming known combatants of the United States, but Obama is doing it right now!

          • dianecee

            Do I need to educate you on the Cruz family history? Ted is, in fact, an American. If his birth certificate and his father’s immigration status to Texas aren’t enough proof then maybe his views on American governance is. He sure is more intelligent than you. *wink*

          • OlderWoman

            obama isn’t either.

          • Anotha Texan

            CORRECT. And two wrongs does not make a right even though the wallbanger faux republicans say otherwise.

          • Greg Barton

            Baby killer party
            Party of the KKK
            Party of Jim Crow
            Party of the Killing Fields
            Party of Slavery
            I could go on infinitum but we all know dems suck on ice…

          • RJC

            You realize the parties swapped sides about 140 years ago, right? The party you’re talking about is your own. Read some history.

          • Pithole Hermit

            Thank
            you for clarifying that. So the democrats who voted against the civil
            rights act were the followers of Lincoln. Bull Conner was a follower of
            Lincoln. Robert Byrd, democrat and KKK head was a follower of Lincoln.
            And so on and so forth in the past 140 years. That clears up a lot. Oh, and maybe you should read something other than HuffPo. Hey, let me reply for you. “But.. but.. but the party switches every time I think they should.” There. Now you can sleep soundly in your ignorance.

          • Fbuzaki

            chicken hawk party ( 5 deferment Cheney and AWOL bush)
            Batshit crazy party (Bachman, Cruz, Issa & Paul)
            I could go on, but I’m tired.

          • Son of Liberty

            @ Anotha Texass a-hole: Leave to a racists a-hole from Texass to say something stupid and untrue.

          • mojorisin69

            “Racism” the liberal get out of jail free card.

          • Anotha Texan

            A Commentary and Inquiry on the Laws of Nations. Chapter 19 Monsieur de Vattel. circa 1788

            “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. “

          • WordsAreSmallThings

            Article II of the US Constitution says he is an American citizen. Read it befor you continue making a fool of yourself.

          • wriprodir

            It mentions Barry? That’s news.

          • WordsAreSmallThings

            Sorry, I should have used “Cruz” instead of “he.” As an apology I send this to you, my friend:

            Have a nice weekend.

          • John Doe

            just a lib troll, ignore him.

          • DOCWRIGHT

            Actually, he is a natural born citizen according the the immigration department. Anyone who is born or forign soil to a U.S. Citizen IS a natural born citizen of the United States. It is the law. That also makes Barack Obama a natural born citizen whether he was born in the U.S. or in Kenya because he mother was a U.S. Citizen at the time of his birth.

            Barack Obama is also the worst thing that ever happened to America… but by definition of the law, both he and Ted Cruz are Natural born Citizens.

            Ted Cruz would be a wonderful President.

          • Skyborn

            We don’t know if O is or not. He never gave us his real bc.

          • DrLeadBasedPaint

            Photoshop is real, isn’t it?

          • Klaus

            The only Presidency that Ted Cruz is eligible for is President of the North American Union.

          • Fbuzaki

            What are you smoking because I want some. All I can say is please, please run Cruz. Hillary will destroy you. I don’t know why I’m even bothering. Cruz can’t run, he wasn’t born on American soil like our President. Too bad, too sad!! Cruz would be a wonderful president in Cuba. So maybe when Castro dies, Cruz may have a chance.

          • krusatyr

            You ain’t no Texan, less you an Austin hippie.

          • Wes Gosnell

            As of now, your choices are:

            - Hillary, the undercover lesbian man-hater
            - Chris “pork barrel” Christie
            - Joe “I like SHOTGUNS” Biden
            or Rand Paul.

          • may40

            If Obama was eligible then surely Cruz is.

          • notanobamaliar

            Cruz is more American than Obama will ever be.

          • dd52a

            Doesn’t matter whether he is natural born or not. He is an American Citizen.

          • menofletters2005

            He was born to an American mother. That’s a natural born citizen. You don’t have to be born in the U.S. The Supreme Court has long upheld that people born to American parents in other countries are still natural born.

          • UteDB

            You have no clue what you’re talking about. What is it with you libs? You’re so damn stupid and NEVER have any facts. When you’re hit w/ facts, you change the subject and attack. You hate-America traitors are terrified that he will run for Prez. Your community organizer-in-chief was NEVER a US citizen by the way and is a Muslim and a Communist. Nice photo shopped birth certificate.

          • Fbuzaki

            You repugs are all alike. Ignorant, selfish and disgusting. I hope you keep it up and not move on as Barbara Bush said to do. Please, please run Cruz or Paul. Hillary will put these two pukes in their place. Hillary 2016!!

          • myvoice2

            Nice try…….”texan”

          • The Mad Jewess

            They are not listening, making them NO different than those they PRETEND to hate.

            While I completely admire Cruz, you are correct, he is NOT natural born.

          • Kevn0

            I believe that by renouncing his Canadian citizenship he has qualified himself, but if not, he has the integrity to decline a run at the office.

          • Klaus

            Why would a patriot want to tear his party apart? Half the GOP doesn’t believe he’s eligible to run. That’s where it ends. I’m tired of the GOP telling me there’s only 1 guy — McCain, Romney, Bush. No thanks.

          • Talikka

            WRONG, TED CRUZ IS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

          • Klaus

            NO, HE IS NOT. You’re alienating half of your own party.

          • Chuck

            And you, sir, do not know what the hell you are saying!

          • CAV

            Cruz for VP!

          • Danielle

            ahe is a citizen of the USA!!

          • poh

            We’ll we know you liberals know all about people that are not natural born citizens that run for political office.

          • FLOYDINFLORIDA

            Who cares, I thought after Obama it did not matter anymore?

          • Manbehindthecurtain

            Last i checked his monmmie did not renounce her citizenship. Therefore he is a natural born citizen. Don’t matter where he was born.

          • Ken

            You are 100% correct, Cruz is not an NATURAL BORN CITIZEN and neither is the Muslim, Communist, Gay POS that is trying to destroy America. Neither are Eligible to be America’s President. Perverting the Constitution YES INDEED.

          • helpthelofo

            I don’t mean to offend, but conservatives understand liberal deception. We understand that’s what liberalism is. Even as twisted as you have designed your post, we know liberalism thrives on sophistry, and it might serve you to understand we’re way ahead of your attempts to control or confuse our beliefs. You see, goodness senses evil. You think your clever? Intelligence has nothing to do with virtuousness…Also, we as conservatives know, as human beings, we are not virtuous by any humanely standard. We simply believe in a greater standard that we can not attain.

        • Fbuzaki

          Please no more dummies from Texas. This country has suffered enough from little bush and his ignorance and stupidity!

          • John (magnum)

            Guess you love that ignorant chithead MOOSLUM from Chi-town.

          • Fbuzaki

            Does your name and little picture make you feel like a tough guy? You repugs are all alike, ignorant and delusional. Start practicing Hillary Rodham Clinton, the first female president. You need to move on as your former First Lady even had enough sense to say.
            GO HILLARY!!!

          • John (magnum)

            Go eff yourself !

          • Fbuzaki

            What’s the matter, did I hit a nerve? By the way, why do you post in bold? Does it make it feel you feel tough like your little gun picture and supposedly scary gun name?

        • otay

          A new twist with Obamacare; instead of a doctor telling the patient to take two aspirin and see me in the morning, take these two pills and you will be dead in the morning.

          • Klaus

            Cruz is all for that because it reduces costs. Austerity über alles.

          • knighttemplar01

            Don’t you see whats actually happening, business after business large and small are dumping their health care plans either totally or for spousal coverage. And instead of hiring full time employees its part time under 30 hours no benefits. Doctors are quitting, hospitals are cutting staff and services. You can thank obama, reid and pelosi for the train wreck that is unfolding.

          • Fbuzaki

            Oh yeah millionaire doctors are quitting left and right. The greed that republicans continually show never ceases to amaze me. How anyone can go to bed at night feeling real good that they stopped someone from getting a simple life saving mammogram or colonoscopy should be
            ashamed of themselves. I hope they are never put in the position of needing healthcare and can’t afford it.

          • Louchious

            If people want medical coverage, they can take their azzes to work and earn one or pay for one themselves, just like the working class do. Not expect medical coverage to be paid for on the tax payers dime.

            These hand out loving demoncrats should be ashamed of themselves for creating and advocating such a socialistic plan.

          • Chris

            There are a lot of American’s who work and still can not afford health care. There are a lot of American’s who have gone out and “done it right”, under both Democrat AND Republican Administrations, who have been screwed and still can’t afford the basics. It’s about time the majority of the idiots on these comment boards figure out how to start thinking, instead of taking the side of either a Republican or Democrat who could care less about you, your family, or your ability to make it.

            Republicans – for limited government. Really? So will they limit themselves? They will work to make their own role irrevelevant and no longer needed? How long has this farse of a cause been perpetrated?

            Democrats – share the wealth? Earning money is “bad” and the rich should pay for everyone else? Right, yet there are more wealthy Dem’s than Repubs. Hmmmm……

            Get off it people. The more Americans who are uninsured, the more those of us that DO work and DO pay taxes (that is really pay btw….no tax return at the end of the day) should want some sore of subsidized, federally backed health care. I would rather my tax dollars go to helping the less fortunate than we are via medical care than an actual hand out of cash.

          • CJWarnke

            You act like it will be one or the other. Its gonna be both. Democrats still gotta pay off the poor for thier votes…

          • Chris

            One or the other??? No, that is not what “I act like”. Re-read my post and think about it. If you have something intelligent to say, then try again.

          • JohnGaltDurham

            Apparently you don’t have anything intelligent to say, and yet you keep posting. Why does CJWarnke have to be silent because he does not agree with you? Is this your idea of freedom of speech? It’s ok as long as everyone agrees with you?

          • Chris

            John, my intelligence is clearly superior to your, because I see the benefit in supporting my fellow Americans.

          • patriot4life

            Buck DemocRAT Leaches who Vote for a Living , I Vote for him he give me a Phone …

          • KC

            And Repubs are still paying off their MILLIONAIRE oil companies, Millionaire FARMERSand just plain Millionaires for getting the BUSHIES

          • John Galt

            Ok, let’s do this right then. Let’s really help the “less fortunate” and let’s have an organized, effective program or plan that will more securely end one’s state of ill-fortune.

            Wouldn’t you agree those of us you demand finance this “need” be provided a clear definition and understanding exactly who these “less fortunate” people are. Is it really unreasonable for those of you who demand our money to help the “needy” provide an intelligent plan of action to end “neediness” for the most people?

            Can once and for all think this through, not just perpetuate a myth of the ever-present “less fortunate;

            How does one become classified “less fortunate”. By what standards and by what measure should we use? Shouldn’t those who are in a state of ill-fortune be required to follow some basic rules of common-sense submit themselves to some organized plan of action to reduce their dependency?

            While working through their recovery should they be allowed to vote or have children? Does it make sense to allow people who have accepted they are presently unable to take care of themselves reproduce while they are in a state of ill-fortune?

            While in a “fortune recovery plan” should people who admit they have made ignorant or unintelligent decisions be permitted to affect those of us who accept the consequences of our decisions and actions further with the power of their vote?

            Is it unreasonable to require those who submit to a “fortune recovery plan” be monitored for the level of alcohol or drugs they consume? Shouldn’t they have the quality and quantity of their food controlled? Should their activities be closely and tightly controlled and monitored?

            If drug addicts and alcoholics can be remanded to rehabilitation facilities why can’t the “less fortunate” as a condition of their financial assistance be ordered to “financial rehabilitation” plans? After I assume by “less fortunate you mean “poor”?

          • MonarchPass

            Or, the “less fortunate” could get a second job. Or a third. Or more education. They could, in other words, throw off dependency. What a concept.

          • Chris

            Have you ever been to a Children’s Hospital? CMC, Chop, Rainbow Babies, etc? Clearly not, because those kids, some of them NB’s need OUR help. Oh, ok, not yours. That’s cool. Then when you need ANY help from the governments that you dont want to pay for, be a good, upstanding citizen, and refuse. Thanks.

          • JohnGaltDurham

            They are getting our help. They are in a children’s hospital. Many of which are funded by charities, not the government.

          • Chris

            So…..you want everyone who can’t afford basic health coverage to work 2+ jobs. What about children? What about people born with genetic disorders that can not work normal jobs? What then, are they out on the street?

          • patriot4life

            Bull , That’s what Medi Care and Medi Aid are for !!

          • JohnGaltDurham

            What about these people’s friends and families, and churches, and local community outreach funded by private dollars. Why does everyone have to be in on it. I thought it took a village, not a huge government bureaucracy.

          • Chris

            Why does “everyone” have to be in on it? Because, what is better, providing coverage so that people can stay employed, continue to pay taxes and contribute to their family and society, OR the alternate. Keep the current system, which, I guess in your opinion, is just working perfectly?

          • Bill Thrower

            and if the government gets out of healthcare completely the costs will drop like a rock.

          • Chris

            WHAT???? Bill, you can not be serious. Please explain, as I have several health care professional friends an colleagues, and this is a common misconception, so go ahead, enlighten me.

          • pops44

            It’s called simple market economics Chris, If you bought your own car with your money, you will search out the car to get the best bang for your buck. If I’m going to sell you a pack of gum for 50¢ and the guy down the street will sell it to you for $1.00 for the same pack, which one would you buy? But….if I said I’ll pay for either gum, what’s going to make you stick with the cheaper one? Just like if some unknown person said they will buy you a car regardless of price, most will choose a model they wouldn’t be able to afford or a simpler vehicle and load it up with unnecessary bells and whistles skyrocketing the price since they have no skin on the payment, thus taking out the competition element on the car manufacturer and dealer for you hard earned dollar.

            By the government getting involved with medical payments and procedures cost dramatically increase. Take out the government and put the person receiving the services responsible for payment and the prices will plunge where even Joe six pack will be easily able to buy a reasonably priced market based health policy

          • helpthelofo

            And, if what you suggest was applied, would create a booming economy with such huge tax revenues, the government could have that huge safety-net to help those who can’t help themselves. But first, the govrnmt. must get out of the way!! Cut taxes, lower tax rates, cut regulation, stop caring how many people become wealthy:):):) = wealthy government AND, society. Of course, liberals would be upset. Too many wealthy people creating all those jobs out there MUST mean greed. Liberals would rather the poor were poorer, provided that the rich, were less rich. Greed and envy, is the mental disorder of the left.

          • Chris

            Simple market economics has already been the standard in the health insurance market for decades and decades. pops44, please come at me with a comparable thesis. Cars and gum??? Lets dive into this since you have so many answers. Cars are tangible assets, and have a value based on market norms, depreciation, use, etc. Gum is a consumable, not applicable here.

            Health insurance is a prepaid “expense” that we pay for in the hopes, of never needing it to pay for that heart surgery or ER trauma. Over time, medical costs have gone up for various reasons. We could get into those, but the fact that the word “economics” is in your vocabulary, I assume you understand. Aetna, BlueCross BlueShield, Beachstreet, Humana, etc price insurance premiums regionally. This means, the insurance I had in DC does not transfer to Texas. Why? Because the insurance companies, along with government, have made sure insurance is NOT portable. This is an advantage for the private insurance agencies, because they can also use the assets backing the insurance funds to cover those areas which have higher costs via subsidies. The government plan would eliminate the regional games, and provide base coverage using a single plan. This single plan, removing the private insurance companies, would NOT cover everything a private plan covers, but it would assist with costs of ER visits, well baby visits, womens health, men’s health, cancer screens, etc etc etc etc……

            The opinion that you and your conservative pals have is just ridiculous. You…the party of freedom, would rather leave fellow Americans, people on the battle field of life behind, than find a way to bring them along. Real honorable. I learned, as a young child, that when people deserving of help need it, you pull them up. When it comes your turn for help, I expect you will not take your medicare hand out, nor will you take the social security hand out, and I hope you did not take those subsidized student loans for that education of yours. And if you have kids, I hope they dont go to a public school taking those nasty government handouts (you know, funds for expensive Apple computers). And make sure you police your friends, and they dont take any hand outs either. Oh….and when you do go to the ER, or go to a doctor, make sure you go to one who also does not take ANY government assistance.

            Cars and gum….that was your argument? LMAO

          • NoOneInParticular

            You, like pops44, are CLOSE to the answer, but neither have arrived yet.

            As you said: ” I learned, as a young child, that when people deserving of help need it, you pull them up.”

            There are a few key words in your sentence.

            “when people deserving of help”
            This means people who are not abusing the assistance. How often in government programs do people do just that?

            “you pull them up”

            YOU being the truly operative key word here. YOU help them, not a Government program. Charitable giving through compassionate desire to help another human being. You CHOOSE to give of your own free will.

            When Government “gives” it is from money that was TAKEN by force from someone else. They COULD be happy to pay their taxes. That is not for me to decide. I, however, am not happy about how much is taken and how it gets spent. I am sure there are a few things on which you would rather the Government not spend your hard earned money. No?

            We as a people, country, whatever, need to stop putting Government up as the “Be All, End ALL” for solving our problems. Every time we ask that nebulous entity to do something, we give it the Authority to do so. That means power to it, and less Freedom for you.

            There are very sound reasons the Bill of Rights and Constitution as a whole were written the way that they were. Any and all Governments have awesome authority. That authority must be limited as much as possible.

            Have Charity (usually Religious based) take care of the helpless. Leave Government to running the Courts, and making (reasonable) Laws.

          • Chris

            Yes, people deserving of help. This is the population I am concerned about, let me make that clear to everyone. An example…the young soldier who fought for and now has paid the price for his or her courage and valor with a 100% disability due to combat – I want my tax dollars funding his or her health coverage for the rest of his or her life.

            Or the child born with horrible genetic disorders, whom will NEVER be able to work due to mental and physical disabilities that can not be over come. I want my tax dollars to help them as well.

            I do not want my tax dollars going to the lazy, uneducated oxygen thieves whom chose a “career” flipping burgers at McDonald’s while driving a M3.

            That being said, I am 100% in agreement that charities and religious based institutions should be the primary source of care for some of the helpless and destitute. Again, I think Veterans in need deserve far more than they receive, especially those Vietnam era Vets, but I digress there.

            As for charitable health care, the VAST majority of Children’s Medical Center Dallas care is provided due to charitable donations, because Government does not provide enough funding to provide care for the sickest of the sick kids. Additionally, look at Parkland Hospital – where the ER and Trauma units are forced, due to EMTALA and other laws, to care for those without insurance, and without citizenship, costing tax payers millions each year. If those uninsured had some sort of basic coverage that would assist with the ER costs, the tax payers would not have to hold 100% of the burden, because, like private insurance, the premium investment in interest bearing assets and derivatives would provide some of the difference there.

          • NoOneInParticular

            In short, Governmental meddling gets in the way.

            Let the free market and Churches take care of things.

          • pops44

            I used cars and gum because perhaps of the simplicity of it you’d be able to grasp. I stand corrected.

            You wrote “Simple market economics has already been the standard in the health insurance market for decades and decades.”…… and it worked fine for those decades and decades because the government was nowhere near involved as is today or the last 30 years. In the 1950′s many woman went to the hospital to deliver a baby stay several days, AND PAID THE BILL all for about $150.00. Even adjusting for incomes and inflation, it still is way below the tens of thousands it costs for a simple 2 day stay.

            And in what world do you live in where any form of economic theory works for tangible assets but not intangible???

            Using your logic using insurance as an example for an intangible expense I suppose when looking for car insurance from Aetna and or whoever you’ll just choose one at random because market forces don’t apply to intangible expenses. .

            Car insurance is a prepaid “expense” that we pay for in the hopes, of never needing it to pay for that collision, liability, or injury. Over time, car insurance costs have gone up for various reasons We could get into those, but the fact that the word “economics” is in our vocabulary, I assume you understand. Aetna, Geico, State Farm, & The Hartford, price their premiums according to your past history.among other things, and since they don’t have the government dictating to them where they can operate ie, across state lines like they do health insurance policies, the rates people pay haven’t skyrocketed like their health insurance counterpart.due to market forces staying in effect

            Actually you basically contradicted yourself when you claim the fact health ins rates are so high is because they cannot COMPETE across state lines. Why can’ t they cross state lines? Because the government won’t let them, which results in only eliminating the competition for your hard earned dollar resulting in soaring premiums. The private insurance agencies are not innocent in this scheme either, When amendments were presented in previous congresses before 2008, any attempt to make health insurance portable was tabled, thereby blocking any market force to take hold making insurance companies wealthier via increased premium and reduced competition.

            And where in any post does it state that I would abandon American citizens who sacrifice like and limb for this republic? Anyone who would sacrifice their life for their country should be guaranteed lifetime medical care from that country. That is a totally different argument we can get into that if you like..

            I think you need to understand the difference between a government hand out and something my tax dollars pay for. Me and my conservative pals as you would say don’t looking for a handout, Repeating your words,

            “When it comes your turn for help, I expect you will not take your
            medicare hand out, nor will you take the social security hand out, and I
            hope you did not take those subsidized student loans for that education
            of yours. And if you have kids, I hope they dont go to a public school
            taking those nasty government handouts (you know, funds for expensive
            Apple computers). And make sure you police your friends, and they dont
            take any hand outs either. Oh….and when you do go to the ER, or go to
            a doctor, make sure you go to one who also does not take ANY government
            assistance.”

            Every one of those “hand outs” you mentioned me and my “conservative pals” would gladly accept, why not, fellow Americans have paid for them through their taxes.

            Except if you’re in the bottom 45% of wage earners, you paid zero tax (perhaps like yourself), and then therefore you are correct it’s a handout.

          • JohnGaltDurham

            Me too Chris. And do you know where all the hospitals are putting their money right now? Into Palliative
            Care, that is where they basically make you comfortable before you die. Ask your doctor friends about that. Follow the money Einstein, this is where your precious Obamacare will lead you. A nice Morphine drip as you wait for the disease they will not treat, because the ROI is just not there for you, to take you away.

          • Coroner

            But yet the people who complain about not having the money for insurance have a cell phone, air conditioning, cable, internet…..and have the audacity to call themselves poor.

          • Chris

            Yep, very true. Do all of them fall into this category? Nope. Did I say in my post we needed to help people with blanket “throwing of money” at the problem? No, I did not.

            What I did say, and I will say it again, some (not all) of those Americans (lets not forget, some of them are not illegals, they are NBC’s) have dont it right. Maybe had a bad upbringing, but battled out of circumstances, gone to school, but the economy and other external factors have still kept them down. I would much prefer pay taxes to see this hypothetical person receive diabetes treatment (for example) and continue working and continue paying taxes, then the current model…..they go on 100% disability and suck off the system, for which we ALL pay even more than treatments would cost.

          • JohnGaltDurham

            How do you explain the people with a “bad upbringing and battled the circumstances and are successful. You know, the people that are mocked as sell outs and Uncle Toms, etc… Why could they make it and others not. Plato was the father of Utopian theory back in ancient Greece. Did not work then and has never worked at any point in time since then, a failed theory. Yet people like you cling to it as some kind of ideal. It is a failed theory, and yet the Republicans are charged with being the ones with “old ideas”. Liberal ideas date back to ancient Greece, and have never worked.Conservative ideas have their roots in the Renaissance, and work every time they are allowed to flourish. As a mater of fact Capitalism is the only condition that allows men to rise up from poverty and tyranny and be successful without regard to race, religion, education, etc… Yet somehow conservatives are all these names you call us as you wish our children would die. Seems to be clear to me who cares more about people, and who is just trying to make it seem that they do to ease their guilty conscious.

          • Chris

            Nice….people like me. Let me give you a lesson. I came from nothing, and have done it the “right way”. I cling to nothing but a belief in myself to win, to succeed, and provide for my family. I dont blindly follow someone with a R or D at the end of their name because the guy in the pew next to me does.

            History lesson for you….Capitalism under the Republican and Democrats have failed the Middle and lower classes. How can I say this? Easily, look at what happened when Lehman collapsed. Did the zero regulation free market work? Yep, and it not only took down those who took risks, but also a number of people who took no risk at all. Today’s capitalism allows a very few to rise up from poverty. Unless you are able to get into the right school….meet the right people….and have everything fall into place, more often than not, capitalism will allow you to do better than average, but not win the game. Can you honestly tell me that the majority of those deserving in today’s business world actually get what they deserve? Do you have a business background/education? Do you have any clue how hard it is for us out there? By your statements, no, you do not.

            I have called no conservatives names, nor have I called any dems names. That being said, clearly, you lack the intellectual ability to comment on my opinion with anything but lifted verbiage from your site(s) of choice, with some of your own, skewed ideas in there for good measure.

            If Republican’s AND Democrats really cared about the people they represent, first and foremost, they might actually do what we the people expect of them. Go and represent us with clear conscious and get the work of the country and the people done. I dont see any of that happening at any level.

          • Chris

            So, all of the people who complain about being poor abuse the system? Thus, your thesis is, since some abuse it, let them all loose coverage?

          • MilesMonroe

            It worked so well for the American Indians.

          • Chris

            This “comment”, I suppose I will call it that, has no context on my opinion.

          • MilesMonroe

            Those who don’t learn from the mistakes of history are bound to repeat them. Those weren’t my words, they were the words of Henry Ford.

          • NoOneInParticular

            The issues you state about our two party system are correct. Neither side is really for anything they spew. They are both about the votes that keep them employed.

            Government handouts, be they Welfare, Food Stamps or Single-Payer Health Care, are the issue.

            When an individual cannot help themselves (as opposed to WON’T help themselves), we have always had Charities to pick up the slack and help them. Most of those Charities are (were) Religious based. When a person gets aid from one of those Charities, God gets the credit.

            The unexpressed reality is that when Government gives to these individuals, neither God, nor the other individuals who were forced to give their money (taxes) get any credit for doing so. Government does. What’s worse is those who take said money EXPECT it.

            Charity is GIVEN by choice and with compassion. Taxes are TAKEN by force with threat of punishment if you refuse.

            Government funding removes God from the minds of those involved. Few express this. I fully expect to be flamed to doing so.

          • Troy Berkely

            That is why I support term limits. Career politicians don’t actually care about doing their jobs, only keeping their jobs. If you institute the public servant concept back into government, with term limits, then the game changes altogether, which is why every politician in office today will doing anything and everything to quash any talk of term limits.

          • Stephen Clark

            @NoOneInParticular- You are so correct!
            This is a big reason why the left always always fights religious organizations. The left cannot grow the mindset of Gov’t. dependency if there are strong charitable organizations that fill that role. It comes right out of the Communist playbook.

          • Jimothy Jones

            what are you doing posting sensible facts around here. Cant you see we are all trying to have a sean hannity style knee jerk reaction?

          • Sally Turnip

            Isn’t it a strange coincidence that the percentage of people without healthcare is also the same percentage as people on Welfare? I didn’t think so. Free Obamaphone anyone?

          • JBRoux

            You obviously make some valid arguments, but if you make an income, I’m afraid that your subsidy will be small or nonexistent. Your employer will opt to pay the fine rather than pay for your family coverage, and you will be paying more under the “subsidized” market plan.
            The reason for you to pay more is exactly because you have a privately paid income, some of which will be confiscated to pay for the people with no or publicly paid income. “the needy”.

          • JohnGaltDurham

            No it is not that that people can’t afford, they choose to spend on other things. The average household living in “poverty” in the U.S. has 3 televisions. Poverty in the U.S. would be middle class in Europe. Life is about choices, and if you make bad ones and I make good ones, why should I be punished for your mistakes? Does not sound like freedom to me. I should profit from my good decisions, and you should suffer for your bad ones. However, this politically correct world we live in thinks it can create equality of out come. You want to know another word for that, mediocrity. I choose not to be mediocre, because I am better than that. I could easily give up and join the ranks of the uninspired and live fine. I CHOOSE not too.

          • Jim

            No explanation for these comments, it’s like they were all written by the same guy who was out of ideas hours ago.

          • PCTon80

            The sad thing is, you are such an ill-informed hyper-partisan hack that you likely believe the vapid blather you spew.

            Let’s say for the sake of argument that you’re even in the same room as reality (you aren’t, but let’s pretend – you seem to be good at that)…

            By your logic, it is better to render an entire generation into poverty – especially women and minorities (whom your side constantly claims to champion) that are far more likely to work hourly-wage jobs and therefore have their hours cut by their employers who can’t afford this monstrosity masquerading as a law – than it is to ask a gainfully employed person to contribute some level of financial investment towards their own mammogram or colonoscopy.

            Golf claps

          • fedupwithmentalcases

            MY DOCTOR QUIT AFTER 35 YEARS AND ME AND MY WIFES HEATH INSURANCE HAS ALMOST DOUBLED SINCE OBUMBLA CARE PASSED…I GUESS IF YOUR A BUM THAT WONT WORK ON WELFARE AND FOOD STAMPS AND SIT IN FRONT OF THE TAX PAYER SUPPLIED BIG SCREEN TV ALL DAY THEN ITS A GOOD DEAL FOR YOU…OR MAYBE IF YOUR ONE OF THE 30 MILLION CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS NOW IN THE USA…BUT IF YOUR JUST A WORKING STIFF PAYING TAXES AND ARE TRYING TO MAKE ENDS MEET THEN YOUR SCREWED

          • Jim

            Taxpayer supplied big screen? Care to explain?

          • Highlanderclan

            Americas poverty has been found to consist of big screen tvs, cell phones, at least one laptop or computer, cable tv and at least one car.
            Google it

          • MilesMonroe

            Check your phone bill for the universal services tax. That is you paying for obamaphones. Got an ebt card? No problem, that guy who just robbed the working class guy’s house with his illegal gun will trade you. Then just sell your Medicaid hydrocodone and buy some food. Look at my thumb, gee you’re dumb.

          • Troy Berkely

            I am guessing cable TV, paid for by the tax payer, IE: Welfare assistance.

          • gphx

            Obamacare isn’t single payer, the concept other countries uses which guarantees coverage for everyone. Under Obamacare many people still won’t have coverage. The AHA simply forces people who may or may not be able to afford it to buy coverage. Those under certain income levels will be dumped into the terrible and terribly underfunded Medicare program. Those above who can afford it will likely buy coverage. Those above it who can’t afford to buy coverage will remain uncovered and will become criminals. If the AHA was about providing universal coverage it would’ve gone the single payer route and taken insurance premiums out of increased general tax revenues. It didn’t because the AHA is about getting guaranteed business for insurance companies and shifting that burden from employers to employees. Don’t give us your compassion crap. The AHA is simply a bad bill.

          • ed white

            Are you paying for felipe’s Aunt and Uncle and Grandmother when the Illegal Wetbacks Arrive here and some 70 year White Person dies because some Illegal got
            the Rationed care.

          • http://mediajunkie.com/ xian

            racist.

            at least you’re one of the honest racists.

          • Quincytink

            Certainly you are aware that Obamacare penalizes hospitals for performing those exact procedures! The more of them that are performed, the less the hospital is paid. The interval for mammograms has been changed by govt. recommendation from yearly to every three years, and for colonoscopies from every five years to every ten years. These changes were not made for health reasons, but by bureaucrats in the administration. Try getting your insurance to pay for a procedure more often than it is officially recommended.

          • thomas lindberg

            Educate yourself…

          • disqus_6Qbfu5l8Ub

            what mental ward did you escape from ?

          • oeb25

            I hope you need O’butthead care, you’ll be taking the red deathpill before you know it. SCREW you and your kind.

          • Highlanderclan

            I’m not a doc. But the schooling they go through, the hours they work to get there, hey more power to them being millionaires.
            If you think they should do all that to make minimum wage so losers with no ambition feel better about themselves then your reality lies with obama in the twilight zone.

          • PoopDemon

            Your stupidity enrages me… You will learn the hard way that government has absolutely no place in healthcare.

          • Ronald Yunis

            I’m a doctor and I can readily say “Fcuk You, Fbuzaki.” You are an ignorant POS and the poster child for what is wrong with this country. You speak of what you know nothing.

          • NiggerNowHarmless

            Go Fvck yourself.

          • Greenhouse Effect

            You’re describing the Democrats ,…. ‘That’s’ what they wanna do !!

          • MonarchPass

            I have been, I just worked my way out of it. That’s before ir ever occurred to me that you’d pay for my medical care. Thanks. No more second job for me. Exactly as planned.

          • Hot Rats

            Once one of those millionaires saves your life or a family members life I don’t think you will worry about his w-2

          • JP

            Stop the hysteria you fool. No one is losing access to mammograms. Too much MSNBC makes you real dumb!

          • Bob Wilke

            Fbuzaki, please name one person that you know that has been stopped from getting a “simple life saving mammogram” as a result of anything that Republicans have done. If you can’t, then keep your lying rhetorical propaganda to yourself.

          • DWagner12

            Mammograms are Free anyway by way of the Programs that already exist. In fact you can go to an emergency rooms and still get medical care now. Obamacare was and is a false premise that healthcare was unattainable for the poor.
            Long term medical care will be ration under Obamacare to all that didn’t into the exception group under Obamacare. In the long run bad Medical care is the same as no care. Obamacare is bad medicine.

          • jsmithcsa

            And I hope one of those millionaire doctors (since you don;t appear to believe in the free market) who quits isn’t the one YOU need to cure your disease next time you get sick.

          • John Thomas Wilson

            Fbuzaki- It has always amazed me that liberals such as yourself call republicans greedy for wanting to keep their hard earned money, but don’t see the greed in taking money from someone else. Explain?

          • Bill Thrower

            shows what you know you fool.
            Yes doctors are quitting in large numbers. Even more are selling their private practices to large hospitals even further reducing choice in medical care.
            How can low information voters like you go to bed knowing you are bankrupting this country just to buy votes?
            You are destroying thousands of families with failed liberal policies. Oh boy I get a mammogram or free colonoscopy but can find a job to buy food or shelter for my family. How many have already lost all benefits and had hours cut due clueless wonders like you? If Obamacare is so great why do so many liberals want out of it? Unions want out, congress gave themselves a huge subsidy because “They and their staffs can afford Obamacare”.
            And for what? At least 30 million will STILL not have coverage and within 10-15 years the number of uninsured will be right back where it is now! And those are the figures put out by Obmams people.

          • MilesMonroe

            No problem. You can get your medical care from your attorney. I’ll take a successful doctor who has proved his worth to society. Lets see who lives longer.

          • TC

            @Fbuzaki – You ma’am are an idiot.

          • patriot4life

            and a Leach DemocRAT !!! .

          • Anthony Artesto

            Quit using the “Sorrow Card” and feeling sorry for self. It is much more complicated than that. Not everyone can be saved. it just doesn’t work. People have to be responsible for themselves instead of reliant on Government. Government is there to protect us, not nanny us. Lastly, Republicans give to charities like no other and would help more if we could by having less government and more of the money we earn. If Republican quit giving to charities, there would be little help for anyone so get real next time before you open your mouth…

          • helpthelofo

            I’m proud to give you, your first up vote. “Sorrow card”? Love that!! And yes, “Not every one can be saved” That should be the quote of the decade!! Too many in government and too many low info college grads can not conceive of that. But it’s so absolutely factual. However, when we reverse liberal thinking and policies, quite the opposite happens in Detroit, Cuba, Greece…

          • Troy Berkely

            Another schill for management!

          • Masmani

            Yeah the colonoscopy is free but treatment will be denied.

          • me me

            It ceases to amaze me how these obama supporters are so ignorant……….. After all the discussion on obamacare, they still think its going to be free….. You morons need to pay attention…… That coveted income tax return you get b/c of the EIC you soak the taxpayer for will be gone…. Not this year, nor the year after but in 2016 you will be paying close to 4k a year for your “free healthcare”……. yeah thats the penalty for not having insurance……… You geniuses have destroyed this country with your entitlement mentality and the only way this country will get back on track is when you feel the pain thats coming from your lack of intelligence in not paying attention……….

          • Samuel Adams

            I recall mammograms being touted as a “free” part of this monstrosity called Obamacare, which leads me to suspect you are a paid government troll. Also I recall HHS pushing the dates to well past 50 y.o.. Most women find breast cancer in their mid-40′s. How is that preventative?
            It is not: Obamacare is not about preventing, but encouraging population control via rationing. The Dems want you to die. Ezekiel Emanuel has a “Life Plan” for us all. Why do you think they’ve exempted themselves from it?

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/16/mammogram-age-pushed-back_n_359815.html

            You should arrange for a colonoscopy. Perhaps a “millionaire doctor” will locate your head.

          • averageamericanman

            Just remember, this is America. Where you are promised OPPORTUNITY to everything, not ACCESS. Go get a job, get an education, bust your tail, and PAY for your medical coverage. Just like your grandparents did.

          • JohnGaltDurham

            Millionaire doctors are plastic surgeons and they are not quitting, because they do not fall under Obamacare anyway. The general practitioners are quitting because they have to make a $150k just to break even on malpractice insurance. Now they have the government and insurance companies telling them what they can charge. That is why an Tylenol costs $200, same reason a hammer does in the military. No free market.
            I used to work for the American Board of pediatrics about the time all the good Canadian doctors showed up here after they hijacked health care up there. The VP of the board told me if this ever passed, Mexico will have the best health care in the world. No doubt when the government bureaucracy tells you that you do not meet the criteria for treatment, you will be the first one crying it is not fair that others can afford to go to Mexico and be treated. This health care “crisis” was created by the government just so they could take over health care. If you think it will get better and you will get free treatment because of it, you are a bigger fool than Obamanation is.

          • oeb25

            and lets not forget to thank the 69 million f’ing morons who voted the SOB in office in the first place.

          • patriot4life

            Buck Ofama !!!

          • patriot4life

            4 Thumbs Down … Those are the Leaches who Vote for a Living instead of Working for a Living !! .. My Hours were just Cut and my Health Premiums just DOUBLED and F’n Raise in 5 Years !!! … Buck Ofama !!!!

          • FreudianSlip

            You can thank the illiterate uninformed voters and all of us who DID NOT VOTE for this.

          • knighttemplar01

            You are absolutely right, but Cruz by his very act of defiance to the rino leadership has drawn an actual line in the congressional payground. It was democrats alone who passed and own this. Cruz win or lose we’ll know who is on our side(those that understand the true cost, damage and ramifications) opposing obamacare.

          • Jason Farris

            WATCH THIS ALL TRUE AMERICANS!!
            WORLD WAR 3 HAS BEGUN! YOU ARE IN IT!!!!
            http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s

          • Jim

            38 people voted this up, even though it says nothing.

          • John (magnum)

            Senior citizen abortion !!

          • FreudianSlip

            Actually on Comfort Care and Progressive Care Pathway (Obamacare programs) it’s a morphine drip (determined by staff, not the patient or family) and 3 days to die.

        • Jason Flowers

          he was born in Canada

      • Anotha Texan

        No he isn’t. He’s a politician telling you things you want to hear.

      • jogl

        About time some republican grew some ‘nads and remembered CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES. Unfortunately I am preparing to be disappointed.

      • CrankyMaddog

        You mean, one true Canadian.

      • Fbuzaki

        He is not a natural born citizen, our President was born on American soil

      • mysterion

        Again, No. He is a globalist. At the very least, he married a globalist. North American Union supporting member of the CFR

      • AllAmerican45

        About time I see a true American make a comment! Thank you John

    • BillCNC

      Oh boy, … to bad shutting down the government WONT kill Obamacare, … but it will kill the GOP, …

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/20/wonkbook-shutting-down-the-government-wont-stop-obamacare-it-might-even-help-it/

      • Go_USA2012

        Washington Post? Really? We stopped taking it years ago.

      • algonquinmatt

        citing WaPo is just as credible as citing DailyKos.

        this is not 1970. We now have alternative sources for news that aren’t all liberal, so we get both sides of an issue and get to make our own decisions on what the truth is.

      • chiefpayne

        I wouldn’t BET on that. Because it will be the DEMOCRATS shutting down the government. After all, everything BUT Obamacare will be funded. If the Democrats can’t deal with that not being funded then THEY take responsibility for the shutdown.

        • BillCNC

          You might want to read the article, … IT WON’T SHUT Obamacare down.

          This is typical with the republicans, … it’s just to milk your republican wallets for donations, … which they are spending not against Obamacare or Obama, … their spending it on slamming other GOP reps that agree shutting down the government will do NOTHING to refund Obamacare!

          You might want to take of your blinders.

      • delsmith

        The Republicans will only be harmed if they fail to get to a

        microphone and defend themselves. You don’t shut down a government by defunding one bill. Such action would be at the
        discretion of the Democrats and the public MUST be made
        to understand who was responsible.

    • West_Coast

      This is one step towards stripping absolute power from the most intrusive, dictatorial, most feared, and brutal collection agency on the planet:

      The IRS

      • Mark Webb

        Bingo!

    • Anotha Texan

      It’s nothing but our typical Friday Afternoon Political Grandstanding because the reality is that Reid will strip out the Obamacare CR and send the bill back to the House for another vote on Tuesday at which time the blame will once again be placed at the feet of the GOP. Reid has already said this is what he will do so just quit your yapping about Cruz and the rest of them.

      There is one and only one solution and that is to FIRE every politician in DC through SECESSION and then go back to our respective states and build our own solutions to health care, immigration, abortion, gun control, etc… before we then can reunite as a nation of individual countries, which is what a STATE is, although denied those rights since Lincoln.

    • DOCWRIGHT

      It is not just conservatives who want ot abolish the DEMOCRAT OBAMACARE. Most WORKING Americans want the DEMOCRAT OBAMACARE gone. The working Americans who were asleep last election cycle are now being hurt by the DEMOCRAT OBAMACARE and know they and their families will be hurt even more when the whole thing kicks in. The democrats think that by delaying the worst part, the employer mandate, until after the 2014 election that they will have excaped the thrashing the WORKING Americans will give the owner of this horrible law… but they are wrong. The damage this law has already done combined with the horrors if will do if not repealed will drive the WORKING Americans to the polls to punish the party that owns this horrible law… Abolish it now before it becomes part to America for real.

      • Uncle Milo

        Oh no, I hope the Democrats don’t shut down the government. Will I still
        get my free cheese, will my free phone still work, can I still buy
        booze and lottery tickets with my welfare check ? I’m so worried about
        this democratic government shutdown, that if I worked, I’d call in
        today.

    • Yougetalife

      Love me some gop civil war.

      Kill each other in a duel.

      • mojorisin69

        Liberals have a fetish for brutality and death.

        • RJC

          Yet Republicans are calling for a civil war all over this thread. Imagine that.

          • Ken Bentley

            That is just what we need to do, this has gone on to long. Now the President is arming our known enemies!

          • RJC

            I love that everybody on Drudge thinks they’re a Syria expert when people who have spent their whole lives studying the country are still working out what’s happening there.

            Gotta admire the confidence.

          • Ken Bentley

            Thanks for the admiration!

            Ken Bentley

            CAD Department

            Munro Systems

            970-263-2246

    • dbt3481

      I hope he runs for president. Yeah, I know all about the natural born issue but I have yet to see a definitive argument stating he can’t. I don’t see anyone else standing up and hurling the pitchforks like Cruz..

    • tryingtolearn

      Somebody should of done it!!Go Ted :)

    • gregio

      If Reid does manage to send the bill back to the house with the ACA funding back in, why can’t Boehner just do what Reid does and publicly toss it in the trashcan and send him their original version back with a new bill number, but it would only be good for three weeks. In other words play the same game and do it the” Chicago way”. The ONLY power the congress has is the power of the purse, so USE IT!!!

    • Anton Chigurh

      He’s a joke along with all the up votes you got for your idiotic comments. Cruz will end up costing the gop the little power that it’s hanging onto.

      • Alec Stuart

        If the Democrats can survive nominating a vapid gomer like Barak Obama, the GOP will survive electing someone like Ted Cruz for President.

        • Anton Chigurh

          I don’t care much for Gohmert either.

    • rataezo

      I hope he qualifies to run because that will shut the birthers up once and for all. You can thank Cruz for legitamizing Obamas presidency to the birther movement.

    • ourfoundingfather

      I want all Americans to read the names of any Republican that opposes Cruz’s stand.

    • SnuffingYou

      You do realize the rest of the country, you know, the majority of us are laughing at you people. You people are highly insane, and quite frankly treasonous anti-American dog crap. I spit in your faces.

    • Mosskowski

      He’s just another Politician grandstanding and wasting even more of our tax dollars and time. MOve on you have more work to do. This issue has been settled. Settled 41 times in fact.

    • GoneApe

      I’d like to see him replace Reid as Senate Majority Leader. We need to get the Marxists under control. O in particular.

    • DeeJay

      You are dead on sister! Keep it up :)

    • AllAmerican45

      Another true American Karen Walker!

  • ThyOracle

    The only thing worse (for Cruz) than forcing his ugly mug for 4 minutes on the American would be a 14 hour filibuster.

    • LouAnnWatson

      worse…are you afraid?

      • ThyOracle

        I would watch. I think Cruz is the most interesting pol on the right. I am just surprised that he has gotten himself in this much trouble. I thought that he was smarter than that.

  • Rhinobuster

    If Republicans have balls now is the time to show us them!

    • RJC

      Go Republican! Shave balls! Show us them!

    • 17_woods

      Some do. Many do not. Their names are on that list above from SWDC.

    • bertram jones

      Oooo, not a pretty vision. You might want to rephrase that

      We should think of Democrats as a disgusting disease that attacks us from without.
      We should think of the Republican leadership as a cancer that is killing us from within

    • Churchillis1

      Metaphorically of course. Otherwise, keep your pants on, guys.

  • MrPete

    It’s time for the democrats to listen to their own constituency, who hate this law.

    It’s the democrats who will be shutting down gov’t. (And it’s not as if the gov’t REALLY shuts down: all essential services and payments continue. Only the optional junk… which should not exist anyway… will pause.)

    • Ron Burgandy

      Exactly. How about Dems actually follow the will of the people for once?

    • chiefpayne

      THANK YOU! EXACTLY right.
      The DEMOCRATS will and SHOULD be held responsible for the shutdown.

    • RJC

      According to the Heritage Foundation (a right wing group, mind you) 57% oppose defunding Obamacare- what constituency are you talking about?

  • marco a. poshar

    ted, shut down is better than spend another 10 trillions for Obamacare

  • Bob White

    Go Cruz ! Make this travesty go away at any means possible.Government shutdown is fine. It only effects deadbeats and non essential federal workers anyway.

  • theotherRJH

    With luck, this will break the back of Obamacare. Immigration was DOA in the House, regardless of the RINOs in the Senate who voted for the blanket pardon and voting rights of CRIMINALS.

  • Sashland

    The House passed a workable extension of Government funding. Why are Reed and obama threatening to shut down the Government? That is irresponsible. They need to keep the Government running and debate the funding of obamadoesntCare after they do their job.

  • WorriedinVA

    At least SOMEONE up there is listening! Be strong. We will win in the end.

  • Nexialist

    The law should be followed. The employer mandate is due to kick in in January. The executive branch, ever since Nixon, cannot selectively implement laws that have been signed into law. The entire law should be defunded until which time it can be implemented in tot.

    • bertram jones

      What do you mean the executive branch cannot selectively implement laws. Obama does it practically every damn day. Impeachment proceedings should be brought up against Obama for violating his oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.

  • buffmuffin

    Do it!

    Then run for president!

    America desperately needs a President Cruz.

  • me3124

    Excellent!

  • Cupric

    Rock on Senator Cruz, Rock on!

  • Christopher Gadsden

    I’m sure they can find at least a couple R’s to vote with them in this blackmailocracy ran by those who call snowden a traitor.

  • WorriedinVA

    let’s “compromise” with a delay, then another delay, then another delay, and so on and so on.

  • LouAnnWatson

    but they can’t stop him without effectively endorsing a government shutdown…shove it up harry reids azz

  • me3124

    If he runs for Prez, there will be a strong outpouring of Conservatives, this one included

    • Jose Whales

      he is not eligible for prez… then, again neither is odummer…

      • buffmuffin

        wrong, Obama is ineligible not because only one parent is a US citizen, he but because he claimed foreign citizenship in Indonesia…

  • bigbiz2

    Cruz is the new “Maverick ” in town

  • adam brown

    Let them shut the government down! They’re the problem. Always have been, always will be. They steal from the people, then hand them bread crumbs to make them happy, and the sheep just gobble it up.

  • Bill Eidson

    Where was this guy when this all began…..

    • buffmuffin

      Not yet elected.

      He was elected in the 2010 TEA conservative resurgence.

  • 17_woods

    ““It’s time for Mitch McConnell to show some leadership…” That time has long since passed. Chinless McConnell is incapable of showing leadership – he has none.

    • Jose Whales

      agreed

  • Danx35

    Good job Cruz. Slam the door on this horrible so called law that they tried to shove down our throats. It’s going to fall apart 1 way or another.

  • Henry Clay

    Please do, Sen. Cruz. What most Americans don’t realize is that this law will eventually be used to control almost every aspect of our lives. It won’t be long after Obamacare is established that the federal government will tell us what we can or cannot do, eat or cannot eat or drink or cannot drink in order to reduce healthcare costs. Information on ALL aspects of our lives will be stored in NSA like computer banks as “healthcare information.”

    • Go_USA2012

      If I am asked any of those lifestyle questions, I will refuse to answer.

  • RandallM

    A Cruz missile aimed straight at Obamacare. WTG Senator Cruz!!

  • adam brown

    I will be mailing Ted Cruz a package of the most finest lozenges I can find.

  • kacisptx

    Lisa Murkowski will give Reid the vote he needs, if not her then Lindsey Graham or McCain, all democrats in disguise.

  • Casca

    The RINOs are about to reveal themselves for all to see. Get your scorecards ready.

  • Arius1071

    Right on! Shut down the US government. It’s now or never to stop Obamacare, the nail in the coffin of the US. If Obamacare isn’t stopped the slide into a much lower standard of living in the US is what we face.

  • Gordon Kuhne

    God Bless you Senator Cruz. You are awesome !!!

  • Jan Bradley

    So shut the government down, already! We are all safer when the government is shut down! Shut it DOWN, I say!!

  • MainahBillyW

    What this country needs is a CRUZ/GOWDY presidency!

    • Elizabeth Fisher

      Hell to the Yeah !!!

      • 57nomad

        what Elizabeth said.

    • patmurphy1965

      Let’s Cruz!

    • Ken Bentley

      Im thinking Gowdy/Cruz

  • michaelgingerly

    Time for GOP to stand up and be counted.

  • me3124

    Who would miss it if it shut down?

    • Elizabeth Fisher

      I pray they shut it down.

    • teasacker

      Michelle O would probably miss the monthly million dollar vacations.

      Oh wait….those wouldn’t stop.

    • Andrewmag166

      All the people that get free stuff

  • K9Kahuna

    Ok, just think of it this way-Your healthcare, managed by the IRS.

    Any questions?

  • Jwash

    Ted Cruz fundementally transforming America…..back to America!

    • Andrewmag166

      Cruz is god

      • Nunya Bidness

        No. He’s just a man. A really kick-ass man but not a god.

  • Jose Whales

    the govt doesn’t shut down… just the wasteful part that no one will notice… geeeeze…

  • Rhinobuster

    I suggest that we send every Republican who does not support this initiative a tamper. A small investment that sends a message..

  • michaelgingerly

    Which RINO wants to be primaried?

  • outofsteam

    We are so lucky to have Sen.Cruz. There’s just a handful of true conservative Republicans that actually like America and stick up for us.

  • LastMomStanding

    Filibuster and read the 0Care bill for 24 hours. Let The People know what’s in the bill, now that Nancy forced the bill – on us.
    God bless Sen Cruz!

    • patmurphy1965

      The bill is 11,000 pages and the democrats passed it before they read it or even understood it. SHAMEFUL!

  • Arch_Angel7

    There would be no need for discussion if we had a law that prohibits Congress from making laws that don’t apply to them. Congress makes laws for themselves and the REST of us. I think they would pass much better laws it they had to live under the laws they created.

    • Jose Whales

      agreed

  • Bankbuddy

    In his honor, I will take the day off on his birthday.

  • Frank Castle

    Here comes We The People!!!!!!

  • vic_vega

    The progessives of the 1920s were for eugenics. This is their way of bringing that back. The irs death panels will kill the opponents of big govt.

    • me3124

      Some people are for eugenics

    • RJC

      That was 100 years ago – what does that have to do with a bunch of people who weren’t even born yet?

  • seanpatriot

    This government and its people are screwed. We’ve been infiltrated by progressive socialists and commies, since the 1960′s. There is ONLY one thing left for us to do.

    • Juan Outtamany

      A pants-off dance off is hardly appropriate just now

      • seanpatriot

        Well, two things then

  • zango

    If Repubs. want to shut down the Govt. I say , go ahead. Obama isn’t up for elelction. I’m pretty sure the voters will decide who is to blame.

    • 57nomad

      I think the voters will assign blame to those who vote to keep the Washington Monstrosity open.

    • Cheryl

      Obama getting elected the second time removed all my faith in my fellow Americans.

  • Zach Peterson

    I’m sitting at a quest diagnostic center writing this… obamacare is going to turn an already line of bad luck (ms diagnosis) into a death panel issue. I can pay my own meds…my life…my issues…my fate. I can’t do this AND fund everyone else… I expect patients like me given a cheap check to accept a death panel recommendation than for obamacare to shell out $2300 a WEEK in my meds.

    • me3124

      Sorry Zach

    • Juan Outtamany

      hang tough, luck changes both ways

    • RJC

      My wife’s grandfather survived MS for 50 years, he recently passed at the age of 92. I’m sorry for your diagnosis, hopefully it will be easier than you expect.

      Don’t let the fearmongers deceive you – there is no way for a healthcare system that abides by the Hippocratic oath to deny you your medicine.

  • Sensible

    Will dirty Harry prevail? Watch this devilish master work his black magic.

    • nightsong

      He knows he can’t come home, we don’t want him around here. He’ll have to stay in DC where he has the prez ‘s protection.

  • ghelsel

    Interesting. . .Obama can unilaterally delay, or change any part of the ACA that suits him, but the Congress cannot. I thought he was supposed to uphold and defend the US Constitution. I guess that’s just one more piece of paper he, or any other Democrat, can chose to enforce or ignore. It’s very unfortunate a majority of the citizens of this once great country are too stupid to realize the danger we’re all in. Tyranny, thy name is Obama / Reid / Pelosi / Democrat Party / MSM

  • Swenson For Mayor

    The government is too big anyway. Shut it down.

    • nightsong

      Shut down NSA, Homeland Security, all the email and phone spying, IRS, Rederal Reserve, airport groping pervs, and defund obamacare. Get rid of at least half of Congress and find a new prez if we really have to have one. Shutting down may just well be the way to go. That is, if when we are back up and running we will not have all the same nuts we have now.

      • Swenson For Mayor

        Amen!

  • David Masada

    Ted Cruz will be the next President!

  • Dan_Lef

    SHUT IT DOWN, then cut the bureaucrats by 50%. Cut the EPA. Cut the Department of Education and it’s stupid Core Curriculum, cut fuel allocations by 50% for Air Force 1, and then cut the White House budget by 50%.

    • RJC

      Have you done the math on how many jobs that would cost?

      • me3124

        Go to the private sector

        • RJC

          Yeah, I’ve heard the job market is a breeze right now. Great idea.

          • teasacker

            …but obama saved the economy.

          • RJC

            Obama couldn’t save a penny if it was in his pocket

      • 57nomad

        It would add jobs. The EPA is a job killer. The Department of Education employs only government parasites.

        • RJC

          LOL- “firing tens of thousands of people will add jobs”

          I’ll have whatever he’s smoking

          • 57nomad

            Those ‘tens of thousands of people’ create no wealth. Their paychecks are taken directly out of the wallets of the people who have real jobs that contribute to the economy. Fire all the EPA workers, every single one of them, and then abolish the EPA. All of that money would then stay in the private economy and contribute to growing wealth.

            Secondly, what about the ‘tens of thousands of people’ in the energy industry that have lost their jobs due to the tyrannical intrusions into the private economy by the EPA.

          • RJC

            Try thinking a little more deeply. Those bureaucrats- do they buy houses? Do they buy cars? Bread? TVs? Things made in America? Yep, sure do.

            What happens when you take away those peoples’ spending power and put them on unemployment instead? What happens to all the restaurants and electronics stores and homebuilders that sell to Gov’t employees?

            J H Crist, it’s not that complicated, it’s basic economics. That money doesn’t just disappear once you give it to a gov’t employee, it gets spent in the private sector, same way yours does.

          • 57nomad

            Every penny they spend was taken from the paychecks of the people in the private economy who earned it and then had it taxed away and given to government workers who did not contribute to the private economy.

            You are right, it is basic economics and you would be well advised to acquaint yourself with its basics before you post any more of your poorly reasoned comments.

          • RJC

            “Government workers who did not contribute to the private economy”

            I’m done, you are not capable of thinking a hairsbreadth deeper than surface level

          • 57nomad

            You’re done because you have no reply. Government workers do not contribute to the private economy, they receive their money from the labor of people who have productive jobs. The fewer government employees, the more money the real workers keep in their pockets to spend the way they see fit. That is how wealth is created and that is how economies grow and thrive.

            Here’s an example. There used to be a country where every single person worked for the government. It was called The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. See if you can find that economic dynamo on a map today.

  • me3124

    SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN!

    • LiamSkye

      Shut up.

      • me3124

        I WILL IF YOU DO

        • RJC

          WHY ARE WE YELLING

      • Juan Outtamany

        shut the lid when you’re finished

        • cunov2

          He doesn’t have to, he sits.

  • buckeyebubba

    Go Ted. Do the nation a favor, and shut the place down until The Obamunist is out of there in 2016. The nation would be grateful.

  • Robert Govan

    Does anyone know who is the actor that is play Ted Cruz…..Wellaware1.com

  • Sparky5253

    Another Cruz missile pointed at Harry Reid. Awesome!

  • Juan Outtamany

    The government shut down every Friday afternoon at 5pm. Somehow we all survive until Monday

  • Duke LaCroix

    Obama is the skidmark in America’s shorts

    • maodeedee

      And McCain is the turd that put it there.

  • Mr. Bernard Wijeyasingha

    It is a good back up plan but I have an inkling that all the Republicans and those Democrats who will run during the mid term elections will vote against the Obama care. This Obama care will be the litmus test come the midterm elections who will survive for another term and who will be removed Those who support this abomination care or Obama scare would lose another term. Considering all of the Congress and one third of the Senate will run for another term during the mid term elections it will be the prime motivator for them to vote against this bill

  • Toyin

    i’ll be all for this if Cruz is not on govt health-care and using his own money to buy health-care like he wants everyone else to do

  • Andrew

    Get your popcorn ready!

  • teasacker

    I wonder if the results of a gubmint shutdown would be as dire as the sequester?

    Yeah, they would probably shut down white house tours to 3rd graders again, but barry’s dog could still be airlifted to him on the golf course.

    Or maybe we could save some money by just having the NSA and TSA harass terrorists instead of every American citizen?

    • Cristóbal Colón

      NO ONE will even notice when the SS checks and food stamps keep showing up……and they won’t care either……2014 the DEMONCRATS have NOTHING to hang their hat on….and can’t count on the MASSIVE turnout for Obama, it’s going to be ugly. Repukes might even gain 2/3′s in both Houses.

  • jonnkuuk

    Every Repubican voter should call McCains office and demand he show some courage and not side with Reid. This so called Republican is a real weak link!! Hound his office to do the right thing!

    • Ken Bentley

      Anyone who loves freedom and this country needs to get excited about impeaching Obama!

  • Slobodan

    Finally someone I can back for the party. Watch out for the RiNos though.

  • Dingbat7

    Why is it that some Republicans are vilified as inflexible conservative ideologues, when if fact, it is most Democrats who are unwavering communist ideologues?

    • seanpatriot

      Because they have the media in their pocket who are also unwavering communist ideologues.

  • Pepperspray137

    Hows about instead of this broad statement “government closure,” a comprehensive list of what will actually happen should be posted for the people to see. Let’s find out exactly what will shut down, will the zoo in DC stop operating, or will the IRS have to stop harassing the presidents enemies for a month or two? Why isn’t this question asked, and if it has been asked and I’m typing like an a$$ someone please link me the info.

    • SandyLester

      Nothing will happen, the liberals will whine and cry that people are dying in the streets…..the government shuts down every time it snows.

  • Greg Willis

    If Cruz can pull this off, he’s the next prez.

    • Geo1986

      I’d vote for him in a minit.

    • juvus

      Pull what off. Shudding down the government or repeal the bill? Shudding down the government is easy, repealing the bill is another matter.

      • Greg Willis

        Stopping obamacare, troll, any way that works. Learn to spell correctly. It’s “shutting”, not “shudding”.
        I’m seeing more and more trolls in the comment sections spewing lies and propaganda than ever before. Whether they’re paid or just true believers is irrelevant. They are constantly doing O’s dirty work for him. This is another one.

        • Ken Bentley

          Juvus isn’t stupid… he has a cood

    • RJC

      Considering he can’t filibuster and Obama will veto anything that defunds Obamacare, I don’t really see how he pulls this one off Greg. Do you?

      • Greg Willis

        Well, it doesn’t matter. Cruz is a strategist. Not a tactician like McCain and the rest of the Pubic idiots. He doesnt respond. He builds a plan, the strategy, and goes to work with the ultimate goal, I am sure, of being elected prez. He thinks 3 steps ahead of everyone in everything he does. One act, whether he gets what people want or not is not a defeat in his eyes. It’s a building block. So yes, regardless of the outcome, Cruz will gain more power. The more power, the more influence, the more likely he’ll be chosen as the Pubic candidate for prez.

        • RJC

          If he’s the Pubic Heir then he’s going to get trounced by Clinton in ’16, he is liked by about 20% of the country and despised by about 80

  • adumbrate

    Proud to be an American again – today is a day for freedom.

    We need leadership to tell the Dems to shut the hell up – this bill is so bad even Obama has to executive order his way out of it.

    Freedom!!!

  • Cristóbal Colón

    Blame???? More like the Repukes should take credit for shutting down GOv, because when
    the checks and food stamps keep showing up NO ONE will care about a
    shutdown….just like in 1995 and in 1996 the Repukes GAINED seats in the Senate
    and ONLY lost 2 seats in the House DESPITE it being a Prez Election
    year, 2014 is an off-year…..Repukes shut down the Gov and they will
    add to the House and take over the Senate.

    • stillamisfit

      Hey Juan, let me tell you something. Up to now, you Demoncraps have used the MSM to vilify ANYONE that dare stand against ridiculous spending levels and funding of social welfare programs. I am sure that you love the freebies that you and yours get from us, the taxpayers.My personal goal is to send you and your relative packing back to that sh*thole you came from. You left it because it sucked, then you come here and trash this place? FU, Juan!

      • Cristóbal Colón

        Ummm….who the hell is Juan??? I sure as hell am no DEMONCRAT.

  • jonnkuuk

    Call that weasel Cantor and do not let him betray us!

  • Slobodan

    Keep the momentum going through next November and it’s game, set, match for the C.O.

  • Geo1986

    I say we cut off all familial travel on Air Force One. If Moosechelly wants to go on vacation with the two girls, let her fly commercial…and why all the SS? She’s his wife, not a member of the Cabinet.

    And maybe King Barry the Profligate can play golf locally, and not fly all over the Country for “meetings” just before his starting time…

    • Andylit

      You would expose Sausage and Bulimia to airline chow?

      You Cad!

    • teasacker

      Wookies are on the endangered species list. That’s why all the SS.

  • Andylit

    “I have said it before but it seems to bear repeating: The Senate will
    not pass any bill that defunds or delays Obamacare,” Reid said

    Well then, Harry, if you are so confident, allow the House bill to be voted on as is.

    If you can muster the votes, DO IT! In fact, I’ll give you one better.

    I suggest that if Reid allows the bill to the floor, the GOP should NOT filibuster. Force every Senator to a record a vote.

    Fund America and Defund 0bozoCare. Yes or No.

    If the Dems are confident of their caucus, do it. Come on Harry. Put up or shut up. Force your caucus to TAKE A POSITION ON RECORD!

    Or are you afraid, Harry, afraid that a simple 51-49 vote is a bridge too far? Afraid that some of your caucus will do what the voters want, instead of what you want?

    • nononsense57

      Harry doesn’t allow votes on budget matters. When was the last time Reid’s senate debated a full budget? How many years ago was that? Thing is,,we are here because the Dems refused to do their job. Thanks harry!

  • voltronforce

    Why doesn’t Crus go back to Canada where he belongs!

    • Slobodan

      Because he’s an American citizen, not Canadian. That’s why.

      • voltronforce

        I thought you guys are anti immigrant.

        • Me1976

          Surprise, surprise, you forgot the “illegal” part.

        • Go_USA2012

          Nope. Just anti-ILLEGAL immigrant. You really shouldn’t believe all that you hear in the MSM.

        • http://twistedmuser.com/ Twisted Muser

          Actually we are are anti ignorant so why not go away.

        • Slobodan

          We’re pro immigrant. Anti illegal immigrant plus benefits.
          Do some research instead of getting your news from bill Mahr and the comedy channel.

        • teasacker

          So much for you…”thinking”

        • Cristóbal Colón

          So VOL are you for all the USA CITIZENS paying for ILLEGAL’S collecting Food Stamps and Welfare???? Because they ARE RIGHT NOW.

        • Dnice

          nope , anti illegal immigrant

        • marco a. poshar

          which word of illegal immigrant , you don”t understand!’Slobodan Kako ste ?
          i am a legal immigrant !!!!!!!

    • http://twistedmuser.com/ Twisted Muser

      I know that would make libs life easier and less stressful, but thank goodness he is not going to do that!

    • SandyLester

      Ted Cruz is an American citizen

    • nightsong

      We need Cruz right here where he belongs, and he’s doing an excellent job. He and Senator Heller , Paul, and others are performing an excellent task and stopping the funding for obamacare which we all want to DEFUND obamacare.

      • http://twistedmuser.com/ Twisted Muser

        Agreed!

  • http://twistedmuser.com/ Twisted Muser

    Shut er down!

  • marcvilla

    I will be really surprise if enough Republicans have the cajones to follow through Ted Cruz’s plan.

    • poundnails

      It cannot be “enough” Marcvilla. In the senate, it has to be all.

  • Gothamite

    Yep the dog & pony show continues…

  • Impeach the Obommunist

    End all Federal entitlements for failures in the gene pool. Shut down the government. Shut down socialism.

  • marketcomp

    Take’m to the woods, Senator Cruz!

  • Greystone West

    Shut er down.

    I am taxed enough already.

  • Superpower

    Shut that mf’er down!

  • juvus

    The time to shut down obamacare was on sept 2012 when Romney told the American public that this was the election that will decide if the bill stays or is repealed. America heard him and they voted for Obama. That says that Americans want that bill. Furthermore all the people on this blog saying way to go cruz, kept their a$$es at home on election day. Record number of Republicans did not vote last year, but now they are saying defund, defund.

    • Impeach the Obommunist

      In November last year, the layoffs and those losing employer based coverage were not really gaining momentum yet. Now they are.

    • SandyLester

      Romney was NOT going to end obamaCare.

      • Go_USA2012

        He said is was and I believe that he would have.

    • Carl Spackler

      Thus one of the reasons delays to the rollout have been continued by Obama. The more they find out about the ACA and it’s trainwreck effect the moire they disapprove.

  • jonnkuuk

    Call Senate rep. McConnell and make him pledge to defund Ocare….It is up to the citizens to force these cowards to do right!

    • juvus

      McConnel is not a magician. He is a Senator. Get your head out of your butt and realize that in the Senate it’s about Math. The people with the most numbers get to make the rules. In this case it’s Harry Reid.

  • desicon

    If MM cannot deliver 41 votes, conservatives should start the recall process. Additionally rally for a strong opposition to get rid of him in the primary.

  • AlexxelA

    There are 11,756,610 Healthcare workers in the United States. How many
    people will be laid off? The bottom line is Insurance will pay less and
    the Hospitals have to cut funding and jobs. So if only 10% of staff is
    cut, that would equal 1,756,610 lost jobs.

    • SandyLester

      Thousands have already been laid off and thousands more to follow.

    • Radicchio ad Absurdum

      That’s all due to government interference in the health care market.

  • rustyoldjeep

    Companies are dumping full time personel to partime. The medical industry is dumping personel for the uncertainty of Odumbo care. Oh heck ya’, it’s a good thing for America. Blaaaaaaaaahk, my a$$ it is.

  • http://www.mikehunt.com/ Mike Hunt

    Senator Cruz why do you hate poor people? I know you have FEHB with the taxpayers picking up over 66% of the premium. Lets see you put your money where your mouth is, offer to pay the entire 100% of the premium. All talk.

    • me3124

      We don’t want to pay your bills!!!!

    • Me1976

      How about Obamacare lovers like you pay the premiums for all the poor people to pretend to give a crap about?

    • nononsense57

      Ask all the Senators that question then we’ll talk

    • ThomasThePaine

      Listen you D.F.N.: Poor people already have free medical care. . . It’s called Medicaid! You pathetic obamahole!

    • Carl Spackler

      Yeah, Obama loves poor people. It’s why he passed this bill to raise health insurance premiums and if you read the bill it even prevents people at a certain rate BELOW the poverty line from receiving subsidies for their health insurance. it still leaves over 30 million people without health insurance. Are you really this stupid?

  • loljaeger

    That’s it Senator Cruz, be the leader I know that you are!! Don’t ever give up, keep charging!

    • Rhinobuster

      We Won’t Lose With Cruz 2016!

  • jonnkuuk

    1-202-224-3121…Ring the D.C. phones off the hook….Let them hear you.

  • SandyLester

    Good, make it so.

  • http://Drudgereport.com/ Marc

    Hard Working Americans: we are tired of being force fed ‘bananas from a former republic’

  • MadMoto

    ARIZONA!!!! YOU NEED TO CONTACT THE RINO McCAIN AND TELL HIM TO GET WITH THE PROGRAM!!

  • chronovisor

    TED in 2016!!!

  • worldsolidarity

    Only need one Republican Senator to vote for cloture.
    Anyone want to guess the Judas goat that will sell us all out? I know who it is, and when he does, we should all scold and fling the shame at him that he deserves.
    John McCain, you Judas goat piece of filth, don’t you dare do it!!!

    • ThomasThePaine

      We neet to shove Graham up McCain @$$ and ship the bundle back to Hanoii!

    • Joeyblitz

      When he does,(We know he is going to),he shalt be pelted with animal feces,and rotten vegetables at any public appearance,hence from that day forth.

  • Sofakingdabest

    Give us a red line Harry and see what happens. We gonna gas obamacare.

  • Impeach the Obommunist

    Liberals are a failed species. Cut off their spigot. Let evolution and natural selection run its course.

  • loljaeger

    Senator Cruz you are doing something that will be remembered for a very long time…………………….Good work!

    • juvus

      Do you people even hear yourselves. What is is doing that will be remembered for a long time that is good work. Shudding down the government? Fillebustering? What?

      It seems that republicans are way too easy to get excited. All a guy has to do is shout the loudest and everybody throwns flowers on the stage.

      • nononsense57

        Shudding? Is that like shutting? Do you read? The Republicans sent over a CR to FUND THE GOVT….what about this is a shutdown? They just defunded Obamacare. The Dems own this shut down. Period

        • juvus

          Yeah I am glad, you got grammar down pat. But you should have paid a little more attention in civic class. The part where there are three branches of government not just two. You may think the dem own this shut down, but outside your life there are bunch of poor people who just wake up to hearing that Republicans is cutting down food stamp, because they are getting too much food, now they hear that crappy check may not come at all because some guy wants to raise money and become president. Trust me they are going to drop this baby at Republican’s front door, no matter what you think

          • Carl Spackler

            Good. Stop the freaking handouts. I’d tell them to go out and get a job but their leader can’t create any.

          • juvus

            Because we all know that poor people only live in NY and California, not Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, West Virginia, Kentucky, Texas. No those states are full with people who have jobs and aren’t on welfare. Well I hope those New Yorkers and people from Vermont learn their lessons from a smaller check for food and no jobs to be seen. But since poor people are only in blue states I doubt Republican care what they think.

          • Carl Spackler

            I dont care what color state poor people are in. Stop the freaking handouts. The vast majority of poor people are poor because of the choices they made in life. They should not be bailed out for being irresponsible. I should not be punished for practising personal responsibility. If you think these handouts actually help the poor you are mistaken. One of my favorite quotes by Beb Franklin. Would be very helpful if the country followed this…

            “I am for doing good to the poor, but…I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed…that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”

      • Carl Spackler

        The Government won’t be shut down. Thats a joke if you believe it. There is no shutdown. What Cruz is doing is taking a stand to protect the economy, healthcare American people and the country. That is good work. Sadly, I think the Democrats will be able to undo this good work and roll on forward with their plan to destroy this country.

  • Slobodan

    Yes we can! Muahahahaha.

  • https://www.stophillary2016.org/ IVillageIdiot

    Filibuster alone is not enough. YOU NEED… a rotating filibuster.

    Cruz will need at least two other Patriots to which he can occasionally yield the floor, have THEM take a “shift” for a few hours each, then stand the yield down returning the floor back to himself for as long as required.

    FOR EXAMPLE… until Reid surrenders and signs the GD bill or has a heart attack and is replaced. THEN… Barry should be immediately brought up on Impeachment charges for the couple dozen violations of law and Constitution, so that he understands the point… sign the bill or else, you F!

    If he WON’T… continue with the impeachment, restart the rotational filibuster, hold the Senators over the pre-election inferno and ….

    …MAKE THEM SIGN THE INSTRUMENT OF UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!

    Then, we’ll see if Biden wants to repeal it….

    .

  • me3124

    Libs change your names to commies

    • rustyoldjeep

      There you go, liberal communists. Perfect.

  • worldsolidarity

    Judas McCain will vote “yes” on cloture, and sell us all out for his seven pieces of silver!!

  • nononsense57

    Geez,,could this article be any more biased? The author fails to note that no one would be forced to consider stop-gap funding if Reid’s Senate had allowed budget discussion in the first place! How many years has it been since Reid allowed the Senate to vote on a budget? This author needs to go back to school.

    • ThyOracle

      Reid’s Senate passed a budget in March of this year. Maybe you need to go back to school.

  • Ron Burgandy

    America’s Last Stand. We stand with you Mr. Cruz!

  • ThomasThePaine

    We can count on McCain to fluke it up: McCain is Hanoii revenge angainst America!

    • worldsolidarity

      Yep. Tell Judas McCain to collect his seven pieces of silver at the White House.

    • bit_torrent

      I’ve believed all along that Obama has some Hoover-like dirt on McCain. Still do!

  • patmurphy1965

    Lets Cruz!

  • azgirl

    Cruz is man enough not to need no stinkin’ catheter, either.

    • me3124

      non sequitur

      • Go_USA2012

        Not really. She was referring to the reason Rand Paul filibuster ended.

  • cunov2

    I hope every RINO Senator is paying attention, your next election depends on it.

    • bit_torrent

      That includes you Collins!!!!

    • worldsolidarity

      Unfortunately McCain is not up until 2016 and not seeking re-election.
      AZ, please recall this Judas goat!!

  • George

    Call email your Senators. This is an edited version of what I emailed to them:

    Sir,
    Please stand with the majority of the Country’s
    taxpayers by ACTIVELY supporting the House in de-funding Obamacare.
    Please DO NOT stand alongside Reid, Pelosi, or Obama in their attempt at “fundamentally changing” our Nation by economically destroying it

  • ray2348

    Batter up!

  • GailWehling

    Good job, Ted Cruz!!

  • Camera3

    Ted Cruz 2016 ….

  • Jack in Ga

    how can anyone expect an honest conversation with the left. America is almost 17 trillion in debt and Obama says raising the debt ceiling won’t create more debt.. Is he really that big a fool? like the libs that vote for him? or is he in denial and refuses to acknowledge the harm he’s done to the nation?

    • Cristóbal Colón

      LMAO and how many MORONS in the MSM’s try to stick up for the mental midget. It’s called the “DEBT CEILING” for a reason.

    • ThyOracle

      The debt ceiling is just a recognition of debts that we already accumulated–a credit card statement if you will. And not paying on time is expensive.

      • Carl Spackler

        And whether you or Obama wants to admit it it goes hand in hand with increasing the debt. As it has every other time this has happened. Obama wants to spend spend spend and not cut anything. Well the cuts start with the ACA. It’s a trainwreck, just ask Max Baucas, Americans do not want it.

        • ThyOracle

          From back to front, Bauucus no longer says it is a train wreck.
          “Going hand in hand” is a romantic notion, but it avoids the basic sequence. If you want to rein in spending, do it when the House and Senate pass their spending bills.

          • Carl Spackler

            Of course he doesn’t. He was put in line chicago style by the administration. First goal to reign in spending is to stop the ACA. Whens the last time the Senate passed a budget? It’s been a few years now. Actually, had Reid followed the law and passed his budget the House wouldn’t have been able to put forth the CR and allow this to happen.

          • ThyOracle

            The Senate passed a budge in March of this year. Please pay attention to basic facts, because when you don’t, your posts rapidly descend into gibberish.

      • Amichai

        Nobody is saying “don’t pay on time”, WHAT WE ALREADY OWE. We’re saying, “we’re cutting your credit card” because libs are like teenie-bopping spendaholics at the mall with daddy’s Mastercard.

        • ThyOracle

          If you support not raising the debt ceiling, and I am not aaying that you personally do, then you are supporting not paying the bills that Congress appropriated money for and racked up.

  • DrJayBee

    0bamacare will shut down the country. In fact, it is happening now.

    • Cristóbal Colón

      And he succeeds in fundamentally changing the nation…..and all the Low info voters….keep blaming evil corporations and the rich…..unreal how stupid people are.

    • ThyOracle

      Nah, just the Reps being disreputable one more time.

      When did the Republicans stop being interested in policy and only in the politics of vendetta. As Norm Ornstein puts it:

      What is going on now to sabotage Obamacare is not treasonous—just sharply beneath any reasonable standards of elected officials with the fiduciary responsibility of governing.

      For three years, Republicans in the Senate refused to confirm anybody to head the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, the post that McClellan had held in 2003-04—in order to damage the possibility of a smooth rollout of the health reform plan. Guerrilla efforts to cut off funding, dozens of votes to repeal, abusive comments by leaders, attempts to discourage states from participating in Medicaid expansion or crafting exchanges, threatening letters to associations that might publicize the availability of insurance on exchanges, and now a new set of threats—to have a government shutdown, or to refuse to raise the debt ceiling, unless the president agrees to stop all funding for implementation of the plan.

      http://www.nationaljournal.com/columns/washington-inside-out/the-unprecedented-and-contemptible-attempts-to-sabotage-obamacare-20130724

      • 57nomad

        “When did the Republicans stop being interested in policy and only in the politics of vendetta.”

        This from a supporter of ‘voting is the best revenge’ Obama. You didn’t think we forgot that, did you?

        • ThyOracle

          Voting is the best revenge, of it being better than booing. That was a real savage threat. He saved you from a savage booing–did that hurt your feelings? Did you run off to your mommy and cry?

          • 57nomad

            Try to stick to the thread, twinkie. Vendetta, revenge, same thing. Do you understand that, tinkerbelle?

          • ThyOracle

            I was saying that gong out to vote is hardly an act of revenge. Check out the full context of the quote, if you don’t believe me.

      • Jeffrey2099

        It is not the spoon that bends but you.

      • SteveD

        Republican party lacks leadership and core principles, but finding a way to blame Republicans for the disaster that is Obamacare requires some pretty deft creative writing skills. Good to know what the liberal drones are passing around your knitting circles, but you should see the laughs you’re are getting when your brilliant insight gets outside the drones nest and people with critical thinking skills have a look at it. Good stuff!

        • ThyOracle

          Norm Ornstein is a Republican, in case you did not know that and works for American Enterprise, so I am not sure what to make of your comment, except that your capacity to distinguish between liberals and conservatives is not as great as you think. Good Stuff!

          • SteveD

            Again – belly laughs! Ornstein is NO conservative, but I’m not surprised your circle would think him a good one…always on the attack against the conservative movement, calling Tea Party supporters in Congress “radicals”. No TO…he’s not a conservative.

          • ThyOracle

            I think that Ornstein is right. He is the TRUE conservative.

            As Dreher put it, “When I think of the Republican Party, I don’t think of principled conservative legislators who are men and women of vision strategy. I think of ideologues who are prepared to wreck things to get their way. They have confused prudence — the queen of virtues, and the cardinal virtue of conservative politics — with weakness.”

            http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/the-republican-hardliners-arent-conservatives-theyre-radicals/280217/

  • bit_torrent

    I’ll be watching my Maine Senators very closely. Good move and kudos to the Senator from Texas.

    • SteveD

      I’ve gotten accustomed to seeing them cross the aisle and vote with the Dems on pretty much every important issue…what the libs call being “moderate”

  • ThyOracle

    It has become a game of hot potato between the House and Senate Repubs as to who gets the blame for shutting the government down. I bet they all wish that Cruz had stayed in Canada.

  • Can Do Math

    Finally someone in Washington with some balls…

  • ProudlyUnaffiliated

    Thank you Senator Cruz, I am proud to call you one of my countrymen.

  • Joeyblitz

    There is something so sinister ,so corrupt,and so deceptive, in Obama care. That is going to make Demon-rats ,so filthy rich. Why else would they push so hard against the American people. This is the most disgusting thing the US Government has ever tried to pull. If they actually pass ,and try to implement Obama care ,againt the will of the majority,it is time for a full scale revolt ,and takeover of the US Government.

    • Carl Spackler

      What it does is give them power. If they control your healthcare they control you. It;s no different then what they did to the poor and minorities. They made them dependent on programs thus to ensure their votes. Always threatening that the evil Republicans will take away your handouts and make you practice personal responsibility. This bill has nothing, zero, zilch to do with obtaining affordable health insurance and insuring everybody. Anybody who has actually read it knows this.

      • Mike TheVet

        “Anybody who has actually read it knows this.”
        I can count on two hands the number of Americans, including Congress, that have read the whole thing.
        You and I are #3 and #4.

      • Jeffrey2099

        Not unless you value your life. Do you think the guys that went ashore at Omaha Beach valued their lives? No one can control you If you decide otherwise. As far as I’m concerned, the government caf shove their healthcare. I can always go out of country for sub standard doctors and they are a lot cheaper.

  • Bob Jones

    This is the fight America has been waiting for. The enemy is not Iraq, or Syria or Iran. The enemy are mentally ill liberals forcing bad legislation down our throats. It’s time to rise up and fight for America.

  • thefifthcolumnreport

    Cruz is the only repugnantcan with courage.

  • rainmcmanis

    Do it Sen. Cruz. You have the support of YOUR base. This is what we want to see! Bring as much attention to this as possible. America loves to see stuff like this.

  • Lisa Lopuck

    Go Cruz! Defund Obamacare AND shut down the government – - It’s a “2fer” – we can kill two birds with one stone! I see no downside.

    • Kage

      Even with a shutdown, Congress and Obama still get paid.

  • Eaglenatchez

    Quite frankly it appears as Ted Cruz will be getting my presidential vote in 2016. He’s just won me over. Appears to be the only guy with the guts to stand up to Obama and Harry the crook Reid. Sick and tired of Chicago politics. Shut down the government, who cares.

  • summersweater

    Hey Piglosi – we have read the bill and we the American people, including the Unions, Warren Buffett, business owners, etc think this bill SUCKS!!!

  • itsjusme

    Stones! Didn’t think there were any left in DC.

    • Mike TheVet

      Me either. Not after Ron Paul left.

  • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

    Anyone seen CaisusKeys? He likes to molest neighborhood kids and goats!

  • Brian Astby

    I support Senator Cruz.

  • Kage

    This is ridiculous. When you have a majority of the population against Obamacare, then it must be repealed/defunded, regardless of political affiliation. We all know that the bill from the House is going to die in the Senate and we’re going to see the back and forth blame game taking place. The real losers are going to be people like me who can’t report to work on Oct. 1 if the government actually shuts down. Well, I guess I’m due for another vacation. It’s time to start recalling some of our politicians.

  • Carter Hall

    If/When Cruz filibusters, every GOP governor and legislator in the nation needs to get out front and get vocal about this mess. The Tea Party needs to suit up and march, and the grassroots Republicans in swing districts/swing states need to call their Democratic senators and representatives and turn the heat up. If everyone acts, we can kill this thing once and for all.

  • Misled

    Go Cruz !

  • Thomas Jefferson

    Don’t let the statists get their way. We can still get our Constitutional Republic back!

  • Brian Astby

    President Black Man mentions a “Governing Party”
    Aren’t Banana Republics and Communist States governed by A “Governing Party”?

  • mmars

    GOOOOOOOOOO TED!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://media.nola.com/tpphotos/photo/9346409-standard.jpg bondmen

    Change for the better has finally come to the District of Corruption. The game of charades that’s making US the world’s financial basket case is about to turn around! And We The People rejoice!

  • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

    Isn’t Ted Cruz an illegal?

    • rtc_amesbury

      … no, but BO is.

      • ThyOracle

        both are citizens, except in the paranoid birther universe where rules of logic and evidence do not apply.

        • Kage

          What evidence do we have that Obama is legal? His .pdf version of his birth certificate containing 9 layers of print? There’s a reason Obama had all of his records sealed.

          • ThyOracle

            The evidence that I have is McCain/Palin/Romney/Ryan would rather lose than hire one of you brilliant PDF experts and go to the FEC to prove that Obama was ineligible to run. I don’t have that much faith in the Republican candidates but they are not that stupid as to not challenge.

          • ThyOracle

            The best evidence is the fact that McCain/Palin/Romney/Ryan did not raise the issue. The chose to get their butts kicked rather than hire one of your genius pdf experts to prove that Obama was not a citizen.

    • desertsweetpea

      He was born in Canada if I remember correctly.

      • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

        Canada, those are the same fckers that gave us Justin Bieber.

        • Carl Spackler

          Better then what Kenya gave us

  • sciteach123

    Shut the stinking government down. It will be all Reid’s and Obama’s fault. And who cares except for the leeches who depend on the government for their drug money every month.

    • Kage

      Congress and Obama will still get paid if a shutdown occurs. The government employees will suffer and the economy will also. We have 800,000 people employed by the government, not including government contractors.

    • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

      How’s that Fox News Kool-Aid taste? Drink it in, it goes down nice and smooth, doesn’t it?

    • Dont Followme

      Republicans will get the blame from the American people. Polling already shows that.

      • Kage

        And that’s pretty sad as it was the House that passed the CR bill today. But once Harry Reid gets his hands on it and throws in money for pork, I mean Obamacare, all hopes will be gone.

        • Dont Followme

          That’s how our government works. Budget bills are generated in the house. Then they move to the senate where the senate can make modifications until it passes the senate and then back to the house until both bodies pass the same bill. Then it’s off to the president.

          • Carl Spackler

            Thus one has to ask if this is a moot point as Justice Roberts declared the mandate a tax and the constitution states that all taxes must start in the House and the ACA started in the Senate once a tax or mandate is levied against the first person this could and should be brought back to the Surpreme court as it is unconstitutional in that regard.

      • Carl Spackler

        We know this. It’s clear that there are a lot of dumb people in America who fail to pay attention to facts, that’s how Obama was elected twice. However, I’ll take the blame to rid the country of this trainwreck of a policy.

  • gardengnome132

    Bravo, Ted Cruz!

  • ThyOracle

    The effects of the two FY1996 shutdowns on government activities and the public received extensive attention. Although the effects on the public of any future shutdown would not necessarily reflect past experience, past events may be illustrative of effects that are possible.58 Several examples follow that were reported in congressional hearings, news media, and agency accounts, about the operations and services of executive branch agencies.59 • Health. New patients were not accepted into clinical research at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) clinical center; the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ceased disease surveillance; and hotline calls to NIH concerning diseases were not answered.60 • Law Enforcement and Public Safety. Delays occurred in the processing of alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and explosives applications by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms; work on more than 3,500 bankruptcy cases reportedly was suspended; cancellation of the recruitment and testing of federal lawenforcement officials reportedly occurred, including the hiring of 400 border patrol agents; and delinquent child-support cases were delayed.61 • Parks, Museums, and Monuments. Closure of 368 National Park Service sites (loss of 7 million visitors) reportedly occurred, with loss of tourism revenues to local communities; and closure of national museums and monuments (reportedly with an estimated loss of 2 million visitors) occurred.62 • Visas and Passports. Approximately 20,000-30,000 applications by foreigners for visas reportedly went unprocessed each day; 200,000 U.S. applications for passports reportedly went unprocessed; and U.S. tourist industries and airlines reportedly sustained millions of dollars in losses.63 • American Veterans. Multiple services were curtailed, ranging from health and welfare to finance and travel.64 • Federal Contractors. Of $18 billion in Washington, DC, area contracts, $3.7 billion (over 20%) reportedly were affected adversely by the funding lapse; the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) was unable to issue a new standard for lights and lamps that was scheduled to be effective January 1, 1996, possibly resulting in delayed product delivery and lost sales; and employees of federal contractors reportedly were furloughed without pay.65

    • Kage

      In other words, a government shutdown is a mess and worst of all, these politicians still collect a paycheck, including Obama.

    • labillyboy

      I don’t have a problem with any of those things… shut it down for 6 months or so… completely. The Federal Gov’t is supposed to have a very limited function; it has been far exceeded. Time to reel the beast back in.

      • Kage

        There would be an economic collapse if the govt shut down for 6 months. NYSE would crash and we would be hit with a worthless dollar and super-inflation. Yes, it will affect everybody except for the elite 1%.

    • 2/35Cacti

      my veteran services were never effected as you state they were..i went to VAMC for regular appt. and my pension was not curtailed…so wtf?

      • ThyOracle

        Maybe it varied by state. I am glad that it did not inconvenience you.

        • 2/35Cacti

          DVA functions are federal not state…so take your non-facts some where else…veterans have it bad enough w/o you using us in this way.

  • Dont Followme

    52 democratic senators. 46 republican senators. Good luck with that Teddy… Buh Bye portion of bill stripping funding for Obamacare.

    • Thomas Wainwright

      I think you need to freshen up on your Senate rules…maybe you missed Senate 101……lmao

      • Dont Followme

        Nope. Senate rules state that votes on budget bills only require a simple majority of 51 votes.

      • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

        Damn, he showed you!

      • RJC

        Ouch. Looks like Dont taught the course

  • franklingray

    SHUT IT DOWN!!!!

    • Kage

      No, don’t shut it down…just pass the same bill that the house passed for once.

      • Dont Followme

        So Obama can veto it.

        • Kage

          I would rather see Obama veto it and take a black eye than see the Dems and GOP battle it out in congress.

          • Dont Followme

            Too bad it won’t make it that far.

          • Kage

            Wishful thinking I guess.

  • Thomas Wainwright

    TED BLEEPING CRUZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally, getting some people with the guts to fight these constant attacks on our liberties!!

  • Bladerunner666

    You go Senator, Harry Reid loves cramming unwanted laws like Obamacare down our throat, and the President does not want is signature government socialized medicine program to go down.

    Go get them…

  • Thomas Wainwright

    Liberals have the same feelings against Cruz that us Conservatives have against the limp-wristed guy in office now.

  • Painfulrectalitch

    Revolution !

  • Obamasucks69

    you go Ted get them…these freakin DNC trolls need to stop spending, if they watched how much they spent we wouldn’t need to up the debt ceiling.

    but then again obama is trying to break america.

  • Jeffrey Tatum

    Do it.

  • dmmg2517

    Way to go Senatore Cruz, Reid and Obama are the two most anti American as*holes in this country, hang tough, and show those democrats that we aren’t going to take it!

  • constantine@yahoo

    Senator Cruz is a strong Conservative. That’s who you want in office to protect the country and the US Constitution. I hope the House sticks this bad law right up 0bama’s tuckus.

  • nightsong

    Ted Cruz is working hard on the right track. TED CRUZ!

  • Sal befor

    whatever happens— the media outlet at the whitehouse will say Republicans fault.
    Shut it down anyways!!! We get the blame, so what!

    • skeagles67

      That’s my opinion too.

      • TMAC

        Ditto.

        Remember the gloom and doom scare tactics about the sequester? It was going to be the end of our civilization. The end of the world. Guess what? It wasn’t. Actually, turned out to be mostly irrelevant.

        Wanna bet once the government is shut down for 2 or 3 months we learn the exact same thing.

        • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

          I’ve stopped listening to what they government has to say. 99.9% of what comes out of any politicians mouth is a load of horse manure.

      • http://www.twitter.com/@disc_coastie Disc_Coastie

        Me too!

    • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

      It’s both Democrats and Republicans fault. The finger pointing going on in Washington is more childish than kids on a playground.

  • skeagles67

    In my opinion he’s the only real man left in a city of Nancy-boys.

  • uvgot2bekidding

    F-I-L-I-B-U-S-T-E-R!!!! GOP Stand strong!!! We’re sick of the damage being done to this country and we’re counting on you to represent us — the majority opinion in this country!

  • mentalmidgets

    Shut it down and leave it that way.

  • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

    Seriously though, isn’t Ted Cruz an illegal? I mean all you right wing, hard core conservatives are so concerned with the immigration status of the sitting President, you’d think that Cruz’s immigration status would concern you as well. Oh that’s right, he’s one of you. Never mind.

    • nightsong

      Ted is an American citizen.

      • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

        Prove it!

        • nightsong

          have him vetted, He is a citizen, but is obmama – no. Where are obama’s real papers, if he ever had any? Are you a real citizen.

          • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

            As I stated above, even if you “birthers” could go back and see him born and coming out of his mother in Hawaii, you’d still find a way to say he wasn’t born an American.

          • nightsong

            Let’s say Obama was born in Hawaii…he has no American heart. He doesn’t care at all about our country, only it’s takeover in tyranny. No,he is not an American. His aim is for socialism for the globalist cause, which is an evil course that will bring you much grief and harm. Some say he is just a puppet for the Zion Globalist Elites, and in realization he is worse than a puppet, as he is a living being with no heart and soul especially for our country and anything that means freedom for all individuals. If he were to have his way, all people in the world will be enslaved under a tyrant. Things like Obamacare, IRS power, NSA spying on you, are just three of many tools he will use against us all. This has been tried before btw, with tyrants like Hitler, Stalin, Mao. Those did not work out either. Listen I have nothing against “where” a person is born. It is a small planet. What matters is who they are, what they want, what they believe in and how it works for this particular country and all Americans. He isn’t working out for this country. Incidentally, if you haven’t already, have a look at some of the info on Illuminati, globalists, Bilderberg, elites and agenda 21. Best wishes.

          • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

            You’re completely insane, you realize this don’t you?

          • nightsong

            Get yourself informed. The truth hurts, but you will have a better mind for it, and maybe a better future.

        • nightsong

          prove he isn’t. Ask Cruz himself for his proof.

      • hey_JC

        But born in Alberta

    • barracuda43

      No he is a American and is going to clean Hillary’s clock in 2016!

      • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

        Is “cleaning Hillary’s clock” code for going down on her in 2016?

    • http://www.twitter.com/@disc_coastie Disc_Coastie

      What IS the immigration status of our sitting President? Hmmmm? And what type of “break” did Barry Sotero get when applying for college? Why is he allowed to “seal” his true identity? You and I can’t seal anything! Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander!

      • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

        If Doc Brown invented a time machine and took you back to when Obama was born and you watched as he came out of his mother’s crack, you’d probably still say he isn’t a citizen of the U.S.

        • http://www.twitter.com/@disc_coastie Disc_Coastie

          Ok I will speak slower…you brought a typical leftist answer, thank you! However, upon review, you failed to answer the question! So where are we in our discussion ?

          • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

            My friend, I don’t need you to speak slower. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid that guys like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and the other hard core conservatives are serving and take a minute and stop and realize how silly you sound.

            Like I’ve stated, You can’t prove he wasn’t born in Hawaii, you never will be able to prove it and all your conspiracy theories about him make you sound like you’ve gone off the rails. Take a deep breath and realize that there are some questions in life that you will never receive an answer to.

  • Simple_Man

    This article is a bit left-leaning. Good Lord. Frankly, I hope the government shuts down. A compromise is a win for the left. Plain and simple. We cannot afford more debt, and we cannot afford ACA. The chickens are coming home to roost!

  • Dr9Love

    Don’t hold your breath. The republicans in the senate don’t have the spine to pull it off.

    • Kage

      Sad, but true. The heroes (Cruz & Paul) are way outnumbered by the villains (almost everyone else).

    • Dont Followme

      They also don’t have the numbers.

  • Sal befor

    2014 Support your GOP party. Anyway you can donations,volunteer at phone banks, if you can’t do these, man the comments and blogs. Keep spreading the truth.

    • barracuda43

      How about standing strong and defunding Obama care now. Then wee will talk about 2014.

  • labillyboy

    So the Federal Gov’t shuts down… big deal. I doubt I would notice. Maybe we can shut it down for 6 months or so and save 50%.

  • Painfulrectalitch

    The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants
    TJ

    • Dont Followme

      You go first.

      • Carl Spackler

        Id gladly sign up and fight in a civil war to rid the country of liberals. I would gladly be the first to sign.

        • Dont Followme

          You would actually kill someone just because you disagree with them politically?

          • ltulrich

            When you put it that way, it becomes pretty real. Kudos for that. I will attempt to rebut.

            The fight for liberty is a defensive fight, against oppression of natural rights. Carl Spackler and millions of others would rather kill or die than to allow their childrens’ natural rights to be stamped out by some oppressive government.

            I leave you with this instead of trying to explain my second point, having to do with degrees of tyranny and how much is too much:

            Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

          • Dont Followme

            I love the Declaration of Independence. It is truly a beautiful and timeless document. The country that it founded is completely unique in the history humanity. We the citizens are able to vote on the way in which we are governed without fear of reprisal. We are free to voice our opinions without fear of our liberties being taken. Every two years we go to the polls to vote for those that represent us and after those votes power is always handed over peacefully. This is why violence isn’t warranted. It may take a decade or two but these things are eventually worked out without bloodshed.

          • Carl Spackler

            It depends. If we are talking about saving this country from the slow death of liberalism, yes. Same way Republicans fought and defeated the Dems in the Civil war. Or do you think they shouldn’t have gone to war to kill each other of their political differences. As a matter of fact, basically all war is fought over poltical differences. I would like there to still be an America left for my kids to grow up in. My son turn one this year. At this rate, he will grow up in a country that resembles Detroit.

          • Dont Followme

            Carl, the civil war was not a war between Democrats and Republicans. There were still Democrats and Republicans in the House and Senate as well as in the confederate government.

          • Carl Spackler

            Right, but you know what I meant, political ideology. Thats what it was fought over. Whether you call yourself a certain title or not means nothing, It was what people believed.

          • Dont Followme

            And the south was wrong to go to war over it.

        • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

          No you wouldn’t, you’d be the first one to pee yourself if $hit started going down,

          • Carl Spackler

            No, I’m not a wussified, metrosexual liberal. I proudly served from the age of 18-26 and I would gladly enlist again. Problem is the left wouldn’t have anyone to fight or anything to fight with. They are wussies and would ban all their weapons.

          • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

            You may have served, but did you see combat? There is a difference between serving in the military during peacetime and during a time of war.

    • desertsweetpea

      Good luck with that.

  • Bob Hall

    Unfortunately Sen Cruz, Lee and Paul are about the only Republicans in the Senate with any guts.
    Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, John McCain-there is no chance they will suddenly grow balls…
    They will bend over faster than Barney Frank!

  • steveyuhas

    It is unlikely that ObamaCare will be defeated with a filibuster, but if the Senators opposed to it do it right – make it not one, but many news cycles – and FORCE Democrats to go on the record again over a law the vast majority of Americans do not want. There is no chance that Obama will sign a CR (we shouldn’t have a CR and should have a budget, but Democrats don’t want one, the GOP should filibuster that too), but let Democrats break the filibuster in front of America by saying how much they love ObamaCare.

  • Barry Bin Inhalin

    Let’s see who has a pair. I already KNOW who doesn’t….

  • nancym14

    Cruz rocks! God bless him! A true patriot!

  • Kage

    Is it time to revolt yet and take back our country?

  • Thomas Duensing

    Cruz…finally a real leader in government.

  • PartyofKnow

    Ted Cruz and Rand Paul…….the only two reps. that seem to truly care about what America stands for…..Freedom, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. The pursuit of Happiness meaning get out there and work toward it, not just living for a hand out which ultimately makes you a slave with zero Freedom,Liberty or true Happiness.

  • CruzerDog

    Liberals love two things,

    Killing any kid that tries to come into this world, or, if they somehow make it through the canal, they will drown those kids in an ocean of debt….

  • coffee4closers

    We’re about to find out who’s with US; and who’s in bed with corporate lobbyists, crony-capitalists & other republic-rotting treasonous maggots….WE ARE WATCHING !

  • jlagrayfox

    Senator Ted Cruz, do not let the naysayers in the media and Democrat Party sway you one iota. You got victory in sight!!! Hint: Get Lee, Rubio, Paul, Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, Hewitt, etc. on massive numbers of radio, TV stations and internet sites, immediately …TODAY and urge the American people not to stop signing & endorsing the Lee/Cruz Defund Obamacare petition and continue signing at the record rate they now are at!!! By the time Reid gets to where he wants to be…if three-four million folks have signed the petition, about seven or eight Democrat Senators will be forced to sit on the fence or vote to leave Defunding Obamacare in. Two House Demcrats did exactly that today!!! It’s tough….but so was the House deal!!! Cruz….my boy….you can do ti!!! The vast majority of the American people are with you!!! And….Pubbie Leader Mitch McConnell better get his caucus in step as one solid unit!!! His re-election is in the balance….Kentucky is watching!!! And….at the worst, if our efforts fail….they will have failed because Democrats along with Obama, have married this horrible legislation and they will be blamed when it craters…..which it will!!! Onward, Cruz & Lee….America salutes you!

    http://WWW.DONTFUNDOBAMACARE.COM, Sign/Endorse…TODAY!!!

    • Dont Followme

      Except he doesn’t have the numbers. Senate rules state that only a simple majority of 51 is needed to modify and pass a budget bill.

      • Dont Followme

        Down voting facts. Gotta love that.

  • Indepcon

    CRUZ ROCKS!

  • Barbara Sbrogna

    GO FOR IT, TED!
    As for the pathetic fellow Republican Senators, get some you-know-whats, stop trashing your own and instead strong arm your Democrat “cronies” to do the right thing. What, in god’s name don’t you understand about ‘THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON’T WANT THIS RUINOUS PIECE OF TREASON! TRY LISTENING TO US FOR A DAMN CHANGE. You’d be amazed at how your positives would go through the roof with the American people. Get the heck out of D.C., the “bi-partisan cocktail parties, and start paying attention to the people who are suffering to pay their bills!!!!

  • GM Off with their Heads

    These Republicans don’t have a pair:

    Here are the 20 Republicans who voted to give the Obama Administration
    the funding it needs to implement Obamacare. The highlighted (*)
    senators are running for re-election in 2014.
    *****Alexander (R-TN)
    Barrasso (R-WY)
    Blunt (R-MO)
    Boozman (R-AR)
    Chambliss (R-GA)
    Coats (R-IN)
    *****Cochran (R-MS)
    *****Collins (R-ME)
    Corker (R-TN)
    *****Cornyn (R-TX)Hatch (R-UT)
    Hoeven (R-ND)
    Isakson (R-GA)
    Johanns (R-NE)
    *****McConnell (R-KY)
    Murkowski (R-AK)
    Sessions (R-AL)
    Shelby (R-AL)
    Thune (R-SD)
    Wicker (R-MS)

  • Kobe Amick

    There is nothing he can do….haha…you are all going to be Socialist soon. Embrace the dark side of Communion. Join the Crowd. Relax and let it wash over you. Bwahahahaha.

    • Kobe Amick

      omg, someone actually downvoted me. Does no one have a sense of humor? Your downvote burns, sir….burns.

  • RightLane1111

    Any gimmicks…then we know who owns the Senate…hopefully in 2014.

  • dianecee

    Senator Cruz is an excellent American public servant, as well as a few others. It’s time for these new world order sell outs, such as Reid, to find another profession, eh?

  • http://www.rustedsky.net JLawson

    Hey, Reid – when did you last pass a budget?

  • http://www.rustedsky.net JLawson

    Hey, didn’t you pass a bill to exempt Congress from Obamacare?

    If Obamacare isn’t good enough for Congress – it’s not good enough for the rest of us!

  • Stan Lee

    It’s time to find out who stand where in the GOP

  • Fred

    obama does not recognize the Constitution or U.S. laws.

  • weareallhuman

    barry will proboby be watchinh the filibuster at a bathhouse with lindsey Graham

    • weareallhuman

      well his bathhouse pass from chicago posted online looked way more authentic than his olbviously photoshopped birth certificate. …just saying

  • Jesuslander

    Cruz is brilliant. He is the Texas Tornado. He is the smartest political leader since a twentieth century, politically incorrect power player.

  • ThyOracle

    “Polling shows that Republicans will be blamed for a shutdown,” said a senior Democratic aide. “There may be some problems with the overall popularity of the healthcare law but very few people would say shut down the government or risk default to defund it.”

    The Senate Republican leadership agrees with this assessment.

    “I think that’s accurate,” said a senior Senate GOP aide. “Republicans acknowledge that.”

    Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/322247-confident-democrats-want-separate-showdowns-on-shutdown-and-debt-limit#ixzz2ezaqhDw3

  • detroitsteve

    First thing that should have happened was to get AZ to recall that Manchurian Candidate they keep putting back in office. John McCain (Mr. Keating Five) will only help the Democrats on this. AZ, get a clue then get a new Senator.

  • A P

    Nice attempt by the conservatives – but far too little too late.

    And why is a government shutdown viewed as a threat anyways ?

  • disqus_A1IVSzeN8P

    This is the time for people to call their senator to tell them to pass the house bill as is and let them know you also want them to override the presidential veto. Your life and wealth may depend on it.

  • rowleya

    CRUZ IS REPRESENTING HIS CONSTITUENTS AS ALL PUBLIC SERVANTS SHOULD IN A Free REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC.
    He has kept his promises to his voters. This is his job.
    He is doing exactly what I voted for. Whoever impugns or obstructs him is impugning and obstructing the free will of everyone who voted for him.
    Dont mess with the Constitutional rights of US citizens.

    • AwakenNow

      Exactly. Texas voters chose Ted Cruz over light-weight, RINO David Dewhurst.

  • starsandstripesforever

    wish #2 please craz dont ler amnesty or any part of that pass

  • TMAC

    WOW. House votes to de-fund Ocare and now this.

    “In blow to immigration reform, House `gang of seven’ bill looks dead”

    The immigration reform (amnesty) bill has failed. All that chest pounding and blathering about “having the votes” was just so much political theater.

    Its been a very good day!

    • Kage

      They can take immigration reform and Obamacare and shove em! Let’s start with immigration enforcement.

    • ThyOracle

      The House was never going to come up with a comprehensive bill. I suspect that Boehner will still put something forward, with the bits and pieces of legislation that the Repubs will pass.

  • Yougetalife

    gop civil war.

    Love it.

    Kill each other in a duel.

    • TMAC

      jump off a bridge.

      • Dont Followme

        No, jumping off a bridge won’t work. How about pistols at dawn?

        • TMAC

          depends on the bridge.

  • Stephanie Payne

    Ted Cruz for president!!!

  • Yougetalife

    Rip each other to pieces.

  • Jackie Ray

    He wont last half as long as Wendy Davis did, even with all the rules allowing him to lean and take breaks.

  • A P

    Evidently, Cruz will gain from all this but in the end Obamacare will prevail, the government will continue to be funded (at a deficit) and insolvency will be upon us soon. Washington can’t fix Washington.

  • muckeypuck

    Shut it down!

  • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

    This is a serious question. How come Obama’s status as a citizen of this country is so important? How come the previous 43 that came before him weren’t scrutinized as much as this issue?

    Before you jump on me, this isn’t about his race either, this is a simple question and race in my opinion has nothing to do with it.

    • Kage

      Because we don’t trust him. Sure we haven’t trust other leaders, but Obama has gone out of his way to seal his records. And then he gave us a .pdf version of his birth certificate containing 9 layers of inconsistent print. If the birth certificate was not computer fabricated, the .pdf would have been 1 layer, thus representing a scanned document.

      • Dont Followme

        The bit about the layers actually isn’t correct. Most modern scanners use some type of OCR technology to make the text searchable. The software splits up a pdf into layers so that it can parse the text. This is something your scanner at home does and can be easily tested. Simply scan a document to pdf and then open it using software like Adobe Illustrator. You’ll see the same types of layers.

        • geo

          that is true BUT…they scan all the layers at the same resolution. The layered PDF that was first distributed by the WH was all different resolutions. If you doubt me take your own test..scan it and look (in Illustrator).

          • Dont Followme

            They aren’t at different resolutions. I’ve examined the document I downloaded directly from the source when the white house released it.

            And another thing, IF the document were forged, that is not how it would be done. Firstly, anyone smart enough to create the forgery would know to flatten the document first. Secondly, the layers make no sense from a design stand-point. Each layer individually is gibberish. If it were a forgery the layers would be in a more consistent patter such as areas for signature would be on one layer, text blocks would be on one layer, the seal would be on one layer but they’re not. The bulk of the document is on one layer and the other layers are mostly noise marks. The layers are clearly software generated.

          • geo

            I also downloaded the original on day one. The embedded elements were most definitely different resolutions. I also found it interesting that the current version of the file has been flattened. If it was not a composed image then why did they feel the need to upload a revised version of the file?

          • Dont Followme

            I just downloaded the document again and looked. It’s not flattened. Layers are still there. All the same resolution.

          • geo

            I know what i saw Popeye. I didn’t review the original file until 6 months later because I believed it was genuine. I downloaded it to tease some birther friends with. When I heard about the layers I downloaded it again and it was only 1 layer. I then went and recovered my original download from backup. It had layers whereas the second PDF did not. As far as creation standards…I agree they were very low. But then again, not like your going to hire a pro to do it for you. I’m not saying that Obama had any idea this was going on. I do believe that someone created the document as a shortcut and passed it along as original.

          • Dont Followme

            Here it is on the white house website: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

            Layers are still there.

            Even if it was someone that didn’t know what they were doing, the file wouldn’t have been created like that.

          • geo

            So excluding the possibility of a 3rd upload, review your two versions (current version and the original) and run a checksum test on them. If they are the same they will have identical signatures.

          • Dont Followme

            916506103 385354 birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
            916506103 385354 birth-certificate-long-form-1.pdf

          • geo

            Original – CRC of 95208184
            Current – CRC of A800CF57 (using your link)

          • Dont Followme

            Don’t know what to tell you. The link I sent you is the same link white house originally used to release it. I downloaded it the day it was released and downloaded it again today. Same exact file.

      • Jon Elmer

        Careful, DF, you’re treading on a Holy Grail of Birtherism, the “layers” conspiracy. They can’t let it go

        • geo

          I’m sure you believe in global warming as well.

          • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

            I’m sure you believe 9/11 was an inside job.

    • Bernie Blasnalus

      Obama isn’t the first to be heavily scrutinized and his deceitful hiding of a simple documented past like college enrollment records, personal travel history and documented admissions to being foreign born doesn’t help his cause to be believed.

      • Jon Elmer

        The President was born in Hawaii, and the more time Conservatives spend in the Birther quagmire, the less successful they will be. Focus on current legislation, not on an Orly Taitz fantasy

        • Bernie Blasnalus

          Regardless of where he was born the fact he hides those simple things and makes those conflicting statements while getting people like you to be afraid of being labeled as some pejorative is the point of contention.

          • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

            See, that’s where I have the problem Bernie. You can’t prove he wasn’t born in this country and instead of just dealing with the fact you can never prove it one way or the other, you stew about it and make yourself all crazy.

          • Bernie Blasnalus

            I’m not crazy about it, in fact I am quite sober about it. It is simply a fact of the matter. My problem is just as you say there…you can’t know one way or other and yet you are satisfied on the side of least resistance and acceptance of the status quo. People won’t call you a racist or ‘birther’ which is really the same snide remark. I choose to call a spade a spade and say because it is undefined and unknown it is something to determine one way or other and not let it remain unknown. Funny though, this guy says he wants to fundamentally change America when maybe the reason for the Natural Born clause was to prevent that from happening.

          • Jon Elmer

            Of course we can know one way. Barack Obama’s mother was an American citizen. It doesn’t matter where in the world he was born, his mother transferred American citizenship to him at birth.

          • Bernie Blasnalus

            Yes, we can know if he stops sealing his records. Why not support simply opening those records to dispel such notions if they are so easily settled as you think? That one-parent (mother only) wasn’t the law in 1961. Citizenship often went to the father but the law was changed in 1981 and wasn’t retroactive. He admits to being a dual citizen at birth anyway. I don’t know if that equates to natural born or not and neither do you but yo willingly accept it does without bothering to find out. Why defend the mystery? Why not shine the light on the subject?

          • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

            Bernie, I respect the fact you have your opinion on this particular subject. This isn’t about being on the side of least resistance or a so called “birther.” I just don’t understand why you and others that share your opinion would exert so much time and effort to trying to prove Obama isn’t an American when there are much larger things in this world to focus on.

          • Bernie Blasnalus

            If the totality of my comments here don’t help you understand I am not sure what would. You might agree Obama could easily resolve these unknowns but obviously he chooses not to. Such a person is not to be trusted or believed- friend or foe; particularly one that goes to such great lengths to hide what is relevant but innocuous information to the point of legitimacy. Maybe you don’t care one way or other. If that is true and you just like to jab the political opposition you will never understand.

            The authority of the President is conditional to authenticity and legitimacy. Have you ever sworn an oath to protect and defend the law? Much like if the local police came to your home to search it because the IRS falsely said you were a Teaparty guy and the NSA said you were a terrorist. Would you be curious to see if they had a proper search warrant before you let them in you house if they bothered to knock? What if they did not have a warrant or better, refused to show it to you. Do you care? What if it is President Romney ?

      • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

        Bernie, Obama is the first sitting President to EVER have his immigration status challenged to this extent. I don’t recall any other President in the last 40 years of my life being subjected to this level of scrutiny on this particular subject.

        • Bernie Blasnalus

          For 17 years- until 2002 the publisher/agents of Obama’s books included a biography of Obama, provided by Obama to them that said he was foreign born. What other President in the past 40 years makes such a claim to warrant such scrutiny? If asked- did you enroll in college as a foreign born student?- and in response you seal those records from review and prohibit anyone from from revealing what should be a very simple question- you may call that normal and acceptable from a public figure but not every one is as satisfied from you in that respect. Regardless of where he was born, he has shown himself to be deceitful and secretive for no good reason. BTW, I like Ted Cruz positions on things more than Obama but he was born in Canada. I say he is not eligible and many GOP/Neocons and even Democrats say he is eligible. I disagree.

  • GETBENDT

    Any Senator who votes to stop debate is voting for this horrible threat to our economy. Cruz is exactly right. It’s about time someone took the lead. McConnel has no spine. He’s a political animal and he lives and works within the Democrat spectrum. We need Cruz to take the lead and flat out refuse to allow this law to lay waste to our economy.

  • Jon_Babtist

    You mean there is someone in the world besides Putin who will stand up to the undocumented fraud in the White House?

  • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

    This is a serious question. How come Obama’s status as a citizen of this country is so important? How come the previous 43 that came before him weren’t scrutinized as much about this issue?

    Before you jump on me, this isn’t about his race either, this is a simple question and race in my opinion has nothing to do with it.

    • Kage

      You just posted this…don’t be a T R O L L

    • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

      Instead of down voting me, answer the question!

      • Kage

        I did…and the down vote didn’t come from me.

        • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

          It’s all good Kage. It’s just sad that only one person gave an answer. Everyone else just calls me a troll and can’t answer the question.

    • LOL

      T-R-O-L-L-!-!-!

      • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

        Coward! You can’t answer a simple legit question, can you?

    • DesertStormVet1

      Most likely his citizenship status became in question when he left the US to attend school in Indonesia. In order for him to do that, he would have had to relinquish his US citizenship and reapply for it when he returned to the US. This little-known fact should have prevented him from running for office in the first place yet the messiah has teams upon legal teams to ever prevent this from coming out.

      • CaisusKeys Molests Goats

        Didn’t Clinton study at Oxford?

        • DesertStormVet1

          Great Britian is one of the countries where one does not have to relinquish his/ her US citizenship to attend while Indonesia does.

          • Jon Elmer

            The President did not relinquish his US citizenship at any point. Minors (under age 18) cannot relinquish their US citizenship, nor can parents do it for them. Doesn’t matter what another country says. Ted Cruz still has Canadian citizenship

          • DesertStormVet1

            Sorry but I don’t believe it. If so, then why does he have this buried by his team of lawyers?

      • Jon Elmer

        Sorry, Vet, minors cannot relinquish United States Citizenship, nor can their parents ever do it for them

  • MizValerie

    Barfbagger “progressives” unite! And go cluster F yourselves.

  • BahiaBob

    You betcha, Ted. Time to go for the gusto! Conservatives got your back. Once the bill hits the Senate, it’s fair game. Filibuster it out the door! Bust it up and don’t take any prisoners. Dirty Reid, the rest of the RINO’s and Lefties in the Senate can choke on it.

  • enos33

    “It’s time for Mitch McConnell to show some leadership.”

    He’s only interested in his massive retirement package.

  • Summer

    Love you future president TED CRUZ.

  • Yougetalife

    Who will win the gop civil war?

    The tea party or the establishment?

    Who cares?

    Let them self destruct.

    Good riddance to a failed party.

    • TMAC

      Nice to see you back from your afternoon nap.
      Hitting another bomber I see.

    • Jon Elmer

      Warren Zevon could write a great song about this. Too bad he’s gone.

    • dygene

      We would rather see the Dems self destruct!

  • LOL

    a poll just out said 52% want to shut down the gov’t

    • A P

      And the other 48% work for the government.

      • LOL

        LOL!!!!

  • Aunti Occupy

    I HOPE HE GETS A URINE BAG LIKE THAT TEXAS DEMOCRAT WOMEN.

    Make this a real Filibuster. There better be other GOPers who help you out.

  • Jon_Babtist

    Dear Senator Cruz,
    While you are filibustering maybe you can ask Obama to please keep his filthy feet off our furniture.

  • MizValerie

    Next crucial step – dropkick every dem sumbitch to marxocrat oblivion at every opportunity.

  • Son of Liberty

    Cruz is more of an American than anyone I have seen in politics, since Reagan.

  • copperpeony

    Go BIG or go home. I see a few GOP Senators going home and out to pasture.

    • Doug Sickels

      Hopefully more than a few. 90% of republicans are pathetic.

      • copperpeony

        Regretfully I agree. There seems to be only ONE party now: Corrupt

  • Louchious

    I agree 110%, now is the time for party unity! Obamacare must be defeated at all cost! http://fisherman209.blogspot.com

  • RedGA

    Wow. So Cruz backed down. Then he got called out by Grimm. Suddenly Cruz grows a pair under pressure from his own party and regains his supposedly unshakeable principles. Cruz is far from a leader. He seems to cave and then follow much more than lead.

  • Doug Sickels

    Proud of you Senator. Keep up the good work. Stand hard and the people will stand with you.

  • Jon_Babtist

    Does Senator Cruz have something against 11,000 pages of new Soviet style regulations and 16,000 new IRS agents to enforce ObamaCare?

    • Beeker

      Repeat falsehood. IRS agent is a Statement culled from Ron Paul which is patently false…..

      • Jon_Babtist

        You are correct, It may go up to 20,000 new IRS agents the first 5 years of ObamaCare.

  • Conservagrl

    They shouldn’t even have to filibuster, it’s a shock that Democrats want to fund something that the majority of Americans are against. I also want to add that the Democrats who exempted themselves and their staff from this law they want to shove on the rest of us? they should be forced to try the law out 1st and let’s see how it works. Such hypocrisy and left wing elitism.

  • Yougetalife

    I proudly stand with my President and country in a time of war and after a bush collapse that lost 22 Trillion and millions of jobs,

    The gop are incompetent and proved this fact when they won power.

    They lost two wars and collapsed our economy. Remember?

    Who in the world would vote for more of that?

    • TMAC

      Read page 2. We’ve already heard the ones on page one.

    • outlawgodsucks

      You are delusional if you believe the garbage you spew!

    • westside_resident

      Yougetaboner when you see 0bama’s image.

    • cookiebob

      Not one American will follow Obama into war. He is a liar and after Benghazi we know when lives are on the line he will abandon our own.
      The American people trust Putin more than they trust Obama. Obama has never spoken a word of truth. Not once.

    • Liliana Rawks

      The net’s biggest troll.

    • Soldyrkan

      Another fool still under Obamas’ (O’BSer) hopenosis spell I see.

  • belleboy

    Senator Cruz, for what it is worth, “we, the little people” are with you 100%. Do not let good old boy Peter King bother you. You are a true Patriot and he is as phony and deceitful as our Liar in Chief.
    God bless you and America.

  • Martin Corr

    Cruz is the new Herman Cain….nothing more….a simple side note in the ever ending desire to deride a truly inspiring president – Barack Obama….

    • outlawgodsucks

      Liberals thrive on emotion and die by reason

      • Martin Corr

        Progressives thrive on emotion…for sure…empathy comes to mind.

        • outlawgodsucks

          Liberalism is a movement of the well-intentioned, but ill-informed, led by the well-informed and ill-intentioned

          • Martin Corr

            Progressive thoughts built this nation.

          • outlawgodsucks

            Dont think so but they certainly are destroying it

          • TMAC

            You didn’t built that!

          • Martin Corr

            so true..no better comment made.

          • westside_resident

            You’re quite a “thinker”.

          • Martin Corr

            thanks

    • Joe Corea

      Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha ha!!! Whew… Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.
      You have got to be joking?

      • Martin Corr

        No…

    • flagirl336

      What exactly about Barry inspires you?

      • Martin Corr

        guts…progressive thoughts and intellegence.

        • outlawgodsucks

          Hey Joe Corea, this guy really is funny!!!!

        • Liliana Rawks

          You sure it’s not that cute girly way he throws a baseball?

        • DesertStormVet1

          ROTFLMFAO!!!

          Guts? The man can’t even shoot straight and his intelligence was set up by the local teleprompter.

          Mr. Corr: You are definitely the by-product of today’s public education system.

          • Martin Corr

            Nope…private…wrong again.

          • TMAC

            Wow. Ron White was right. You really cant fix stupid.

          • Martin Corr

            see…I disagree with your views, and you get abusive…tea party behavior.

          • westside_resident

            You stuck on stupid Martin!

          • Martin Corr

            No..stupid is the new GOP – right wing haters…cavemen.

          • DesertStormVet1

            But your grammar skills & beliefs prove otherwise.

          • Martin Corr

            good one chief.

    • westside_resident

      I take it your 0bamaphone arrived today.

      • TMAC

        And from the sound of things it looks like an unlimited minutes plan.

      • Martin Corr

        no…great program for the needy though.

  • Lindakl

    Ted I will watch every minute, go Ted go.

  • Beeker

    Of course, if GOP senators actually follow Cruz and Hoskins’ advice, they will, in effect, be voting against a bill that includes Obamacare defunding. The vote to strike that language is not expected until after cloture is invoked, and it will take only 51 votes to succeed.
    By asking Republicans to oppose any motion to invoke cloture, and thus limit debate, on the stopgap spending bill passed Friday by the Republican-led House — the one that does defund the health care overhaul — Cruz and Hoskins are literally calling for Republicans to filibuster the bill and, possibly, shut down the government in the process

    Senator Cruz, I hope you do filibuster the House passed CR however this will, in effect, shut down the government and ultimately the GOP will get the blame.

    • Liliana Rawks

      So what if it’s shut down? We will most likely not even notice it according to many.

      • notanobamaliar

        News flash – the government is shut down for 2 days starting tomorrow just like it was last weekend. Did anybody really miss it beside the liberals?

  • Jon_Babtist

    Let’s hope Senator Cruz does not suffer the same fate as Breitbart.

  • Liliana Rawks

    Dems: AMERICANS don’t want Obamacare. We didn’t want it then, we don’t want it now. What part of that don’t you understand? Better yet, what do you stand to gain from it that is more important than the wishes of your constituents?

  • Yougetalife

    “This place is a mess” Speaker Pelosi.

    Well, they are having a gop civil war so it will get messy.

    Go gop establishment!

    • notanobamaliar

      Duct tape & Nancy Pelosi’s lips – a match made in heaven.

  • http://www.google.com/ P!NG

    An easy way to filibuster the bill is to read it out loud for review… its only how many thousand pages long…

    • Barry Bin Inhalin

      What GREAT friggin’ idea! Read it aloud – line by line, legalese phrase by legalese phrase – until ChuckU’s eyes roll back in his head.

      • http://www.google.com/ P!NG

        It was the first thing that came to my mind, just open up reading it in the middle of session, I bet most don’t make it to page 100 before a max exit or zzzzz starts happening.

  • http://www.myspace.com/JoshvanHulst Josh van Hulst

    You are the best Ted Cruz!! We all support you and commend your effect to the Senate in order!

    • 2/35Cacti

      I’m giving Ted one of my Bronze Stars if he gets this done.

  • Chas No

    The public doesn’t want Obamacare. If Cruz shuts it down, he will become President of the United States.

  • cookiebob

    Why do they always let Democrats choose the language? They chose to defund, but Democrats are choosing to shut down the government.
    But I have not seen one headline that says Obama threatens to shut down the government. It is the choice of Reid and Obama that would shut things down.
    Why do they let the media get away with a lie?

  • Phocus Please

    Cruz and Bell are the American champions we have all been looking for.

    • Joel C Pousson

      Aye!

  • clarinet

    This is showmanship that will only waste a couple days along the way to doom. The Republicans need to propose an actual plan to replace Obamacare, convince enough Senate democrats (via a massive public relations campaign, something they’re so loathe to do) to vote for it, then take the Senate in 2014, and hopefully in 2016 not run another dipstick for President. Then, maybe Obamacare will go away.

    • Joel C Pousson

      REALLY?
      How ’bout the Democrats actually propose COHERENT heath care reform that does not completely and utterly destroy JOBS for people trying to EARN their way up from lower-class to middle-class?

      • clarinet

        Uh, hullo….the Dems passed Obamakare a while back. That it is incoherent is of no concern to them.

  • Gamer Dad

    Really though, shutting down the government wouldn’t be that bad anyway. Hell with the government running this country is turning into Staten island in august. Shut it down I say!

  • John Doe

    I say let it come to a vote. Let the libs vote for it and then use that against them in 2014 and 2016.

  • Yougetalife

    You need 67 votes in the Senate to over ride a veto.

    It is government waste like when they had power and out spent the Dems badly.

    The bush collspse lost 22 trillion and millions of jobs. Fact.

    • westside_resident

      Your cutting and pasting skills are getting worse.

    • notanobamaliar

      You are not only flunking spelling but flunking the original thought course as well. Doesn’t your free Obamaphone come with spell check?

  • TimeWarp66

    Go..Cruz Missile!!

  • JoetheFilmmaker

    Maybe Obama should write an executive order banning Filibustering under his rule. For crying out loud, we don’t live in a Banana Republic.

  • Yougetalife

    cruz is a Canadian Cuban commie.

    • clarinet

      Wow, quadruple alliteration completely void of reality.

      • TMAC

        Its friday afternoon. After chooming for the last 5 hours the psychedelics are starting to kick in. Just another weekend.

      • doesntmatter

        lefties are so desperate. Name calling…it’s all they got.

    • westside_resident

      You need to get a better cut and paste program for your computer.

    • Rationalista2

      Back to video games, Junior – this is an adult conversation…

    • robin hood in reverse

      I can’t taste the difference between Wilson, Obama, and Trudeau vegetable oil. The Canadians are doing just fine because “Trudeaumania” taught the Canadians a very painful lesson.

    • http://www.facebook.com/cancillayellis Carolyn Cancilla Yellis

      LOL If so (which is it not) I would rather have a Canadian Cuban Commie that a Kenyan Al Queda supporter/muslim. I can’t wait for the libs to start questioning the birthright of Senator Cruz. The more I see of him and how he stands for OUR convictions, the more I like Cruz.

    • 2/35Cacti

      next time you are at that castro health clinic tell fidel to stop using our American dollars.

  • Devsfan

    I have to wonder if anyone cares about all this grandstanding. Everyone knows this isn’t going to go anywhere. It won’t pass so really it’s the equivalent of jumping up and down and yelling look at me. If anything it’s just going to hurt more Americans that go to work everyday for the government if they don’t do their jobs and pass a continuing resolution.

  • Rationalista2

    That’s my Senator from the great state of Texas ! But why can’t Cornynt get motivated like Cruz…?

    • Yougetalife

      Because he is retiring.

      • Rationalista2

        you can’t be for real…

        • Yougetalife

          Facts, yeah I use them.

  • rephil

    Is there really hope?

    • Yougetalife

      No.

      • Joel C Pousson

        YES.

    • Soldyrkan

      There is hopenosis…it’s similar to hypnosis. Many are still under Obamas’ NLP hopenosis spell. It does no good to tell the poor fools to snap out of it.

  • Yougetalife

    Our President went green today.

    Thank you President Obama.

    • clarinet

      thought you people were color blind, oh well.

    • TMAC

      So he ate to much spinach?

    • notanobamaliar

      The sucking up sound emanating from your posts is most disgusting. Going through life as an Obamabot drone can’t be much of an existence.

    • 2/35Cacti

      yeah, “greenhorn”, as they say in Texas!

    • Twoiron

      He made a mess in his mommy jeans?

  • Paavo

    Finally someone with spine.

    This is what leadership is about… and it is long past time this party got a good dose of testosterone to take on the Banana Republic Leadership.

    Obama’s Banana Republic passed ObamaKare, a horror or “train wreck” of a bill using all manner of tricks… now it’s time to stuff it back down their throats and save this generation and future generations from this chunk of Socialist misery.

    Go Ted Go!

  • may40

    Run Cruz, run!!!! Would love to see him demolish Hillary in the debates.

  • Yougetalife

    I demand to see his long form birth certificate. Now.

  • http://GuardAmerican.com/ GuardAmerican

    “If 41 Republicans stand strong and oppose cloture, they can defeat Reid’s plan to fund Obamacare.”

    Go, Ted, Go!

    • TMAC

      You wont get all 41, and we all know who the usual suspects will be.

      • http://GuardAmerican.com/ GuardAmerican

        Call them and pressure them. Lindsey Graham is vulnerable. Tell him you’ll fund his primary opp.

        Don’t give up! FIGHT!

  • Yougetalife

    cruz is a secret leftist plant.

    • robin hood in reverse

      Have you been Cuba lately? Fidel’s brother is not an Obama

  • notanobamaliar

    Senator Cruz is showing leadership and courage – something that has been lacking for the most part from Senate Republicans like Mitch McConnell. This the time to put up or shut up as we will have to deal with the consequences for a long time if they start playing games and allow this to slip through unchallenged. If they don’t take the fight all the way, many of us will change from Republican to Independent voters. If they care more about their jobs and straddling the fence politically than they do about the country they will pay a real price in the 2014 elections.

  • Yougetalife

    cruz is a knee jerk liberal.

    You got played.

    • John

      So then you are a conservative.

      Ok, now back from bizzaro world.

    • clarinet

      When did the asylum get internet service?

      • TMAC

        It comes in thru his tin foil helmet.

  • Sally Hoover

    Senator CRUZ.. THANK YOU.. My entire family supports what your doing and please let the spineless Repubs know that they will be PRIMARIED next year if they sell us out on this matter that is destroying jobs and people healthcare. Just because they got a Obama exemption, they need to stand up and defeat this crap law !!!!!!!!

  • clarinet

    For the filibuster, Cruz should consider reading the Republican alternative to ObamaKare.

  • cuinsong

    The dem’s & Harry R, are a bunch of crooks. They are going against the American people on purpose & that is wrong. They are not worthy of being Senators.

    • John

      They are not worthy of being Americans.

  • jim2

    RUN TED RUN!!!! Ted I have nothing to lose, this admin has given me and my wife nothing in the last 4 years or so. We have been assaulted by this dictator and his radical advisors. Lets give it all that we can, we have nothing left to give to this crap in dc. God help us and bless us we need this stand.

  • lava_roc

    Man, this Canadian is sure making a name for himself! Oh, that’s right, he has duel nationality.

    • RKM1954

      Birther.

    • clarinet

      Ahem, “duel” means a gentlemanly shootout, as with pistols. “Dual” means two – for example “dual citizenship.”

  • Yougetalife

    Dual nationality cuban commie.

    • Stillontheroad

      Whats your point?? Cruz any day of the year compared to this Imp from Chicago and his Progressive handlers.

    • Jwash

      Bet that hurt to type……huh, comrade!?

  • Joel C Pousson

    TOTAL misrepresentation of Senator Cruz’ actual intent.

  • bennettc

    “or force a shutdown…” For the love of God and country shut it down then. Do you think this fight is going to get any easier even if you win the senate in 2014? It’s not, and by the time (if ever) you do gain control it will be far, far too late to do anything but try and work around the edges.

    What I want is a full roll call vote. That way I can channel my primary money to the appropriate challengers and my campaign contributions to non RINOs

  • John Galt

    Wouldn’t it be funny to see Senator Cruz run for president and listen to all the progressive birthers flip flop themselves to death?

  • Stillontheroad

    And the Sock Puppet Blusters that the Repubs are messin with him — hey Sock Puppet — FU and the Fat A$$ed wife you rode in on – You absolute and complete failure.

  • Fading_Shadow

    So shut the government down, just do it!

  • Greg Barton

    Like a govt shutdown has never happened before:
    Did the sky fall? Nope.
    Did planes crash? No.
    Did democrats have to embrace defeat? YES.
    GTH Libs

  • tonythefisher

    Cruz has toenail clippings, embedded in his rug at home, with MORE eligibility, than Obama has in his ENTIRE body!

    • JoeNormal

      gross, but if you wanna go there….okay

  • FortheProud

    Patriotic American Cruz Missile!!!! And Mike Lee and all the rest of you that are fighting the good fight – God Bless You ALL! Folks, remember those that vote against the defunding! 2014 can’t come soon enough! Oust every Dem and Rino!! Back to bold colors!!!

  • Yougetalife

    God bless President Obama.

    He makes them look like clowns because they are clowns.

    • Jwash

      You sound like a clown……honking your hand horn while typing the garbage you believe in….

      Honk! Honk!

    • notanobamaliar

      World leaders are laughing their butts off at Obama and it is not for his joke telling prowess.

  • RKM1954

    Why are the (D)s so afraid of Cruz? If he was as bad as they say, the Libs have nothing to worry about.

  • SOG1077

    Very proud to have voted Ted Cruz into the U.S. Senate. Senator Cruz, you are doing EVERYTHING I voted you in to do and I am so grateful, along with millions of other American Patriots who have had enough of Demonrat’s insane spending spree and continued usurpation of our Bill of Rights. You rock!!

  • LibertyForU

    There is no “government shutdown.” The military gets paid, air traffic controllers get paid, TSA gets paid, the FBI gets paid, Obama gets paid (for what I don’t know), etc. And, it would be good if the 43% on welfare, less the 1% that actually need it, had to actually work. This country might get turned around.

  • yubnub

    I thought the discussion was on the debt limit? Why are the Republican’s blackmailing the President for execution of a bill that has already been passed and approved by the voters?

    • worstscumpresidentever

      God I hope you don’t vote.

      • RKM1954

        or reproduce.

    • RKM1954

      According to a Real Clear Politics combined poll average, only 42 % approve of Obamacare and 52% disapprove. I’ll put you down as one of the 42%.

      • John

        Just put him down. Permanently.

        • yubnub

          Anytime, anyplace, let’s do this.

          • John

            hahahahah

          • Nitro Norris

            you’d piss yourself. but you’re a tough talker online!

        • RKM1954

          lol…I wish.

        • yubnub

          You afraid bro?

          • John

            bro? hahahahaha!!!

          • Anyone but Obama

            Afraid? No, I just know what’s in Oakland. I’ll let them kill each other and sit back and watch the fun.

        • yubnub

          Come on down to Oakland, let’s take care of this.

          • John

            Oakland? hahahahahahahahaha !!!

          • yubnub

            Yeah, just like I thought, pansy

          • John

            hahahahahaha!!!!

          • Nitro Norris

            phag… all talk!

          • Kerr

            LOL…. idiot

    • John

      was NEVER approved by the voters. was forced through, much like in a BANANA REPUBLIC.

    • Kerr

      passed and approved by the voter’s??? what voters?? Do you even know what you are talking about?

      Typical LILLY ( Low Information Leftwing Liberal)

      • John

        better watch out, he’s from Oakland. hahahahahahaha!!!!

        • notanobamaliar

          Maybe his water supply is over fluoridated.

    • notanobamaliar

      More fuzzy Obamamath. 64% in the country disapprove of the Obama healthcare bungle in jungle.

  • FortheProud

    Gotta LOVE TEXAS!!!!

  • Yougetalife

    Pass the clean cr gop.

    • John

      Clean your underwear.

  • BarryTheDoucheBag

    Listening to McPain he sounds like an idiot liberal…so I’m not holding my breath for all the idiotic conservatives in the senate….

    • Yougetalife

      He is telling the truth.

  • Yougetalife

    cruz is a secret liberal from Canada.

    You got punked.

    • SOG1077

      Sure he is! We can tell by the libia’s disgusting/shameless reactions that you all are scared sh!tless of him. Hahaha… so go clean that crap out of your britches o sheep.

    • RKM1954

      Then the (D)s should support him.

    • Jwash

      Lets say your genius insight was right…..then Cruz would be a true liberal, the kind who helped draft the u.s. constitution in the late 1700′s…..not the commie fascist type ‘progressive’ you learned to suckle from as a small girlscout!

  • C Palmson

    What Cruz needs to do is find liberal allies with ties to Labor Unions. As we find out more about Obamacare, it is clear there are issues for the left to support delaying or defunding Obamacare. If the far right and the labor friendly liberals unite, this fight can be won.

  • Yougetalife

    Psst, the gop will vote with the Dems for a clean cr bill.

  • worstscumpresidentever

    Reid will put it back in and when it gets back to the House, Boehner will cave and pass it. He can say he tried-path to destruction continues.

    • Yougetalife

      True.

    • RKM1954

      Or not. Unfortunately, I think you’re right.

    • ArizonaNative

      You know, Boehner has to get a lot of republicans to vote for it to do that. I don’t think that’s going to happen.

  • ArizonaNative

    So that’s what a real leader looks like. It’s been so long since we have actually seen one in Washington.

    • Dont Followme

      You mean pointlessly blustering? He stand NO chance. Only 51 votes are needed in the senate to pass or modify a budget bill.

      • ArizonaNative

        If that it correct it is only because Prince Harry and King Obama would rather see the country default than work with conservatives.

        • Dont Followme

          I guess it’s called, “working” with conservatives when you give in to all of their demands.

          • ArizonaNative

            No, It’s called working with the representatives of the people. The ones who are reacting to what their constituents are telling them. Obama and Reid are dictating their agenda against the will of the majority.

  • Yougetalife

    Stop playing clowns in a circus and pass a clean cr bill.

    You are embarrassing yourselves.

    • Twoiron

      An Obama voter worried about the opposition embarrassing themselves? That’s rich.

  • yubnub

    Oh lookie here, it’s a Drudge Report circle jerk!

    • Nitro Norris

      oh look- it’s a liberal eager to get in the center of said circle jerk!!!

      You like cream in your coff…er… where do you want it???

      On your face? okay… and you can use that filthy rag you stuff in yourself once a month to wipe it off.

  • Twoiron

    The King’s healthcare plan is dead! Huzzah!

    Long live the people!

    Just say no to death panels!

    Keep your insurance and your doctor, kill Obamacare!

    Your insurance rates will go back down now!

    I want insurance like just the ruling class!!!!

  • Yougetalife

    Listen to mccain on this one.

    • Twoiron

      Listen to Jon “Obamacare is a train wreck” Tester (D-MT).

    • Jon_Babtist

      Is that where he want’s to flood America with illegals or support, finance and arm Al Qaeda?

  • yubnub

    Voters will remember the day the GOP held America hostage to appease their constituents. Thank you Cruz!

    • John

      thank you yubnub for making Oakland a place that I wouldn’t even send my toenail clippings to. hahahahahahahahah!!!

  • Dont Followme

    I love how the headline on drudge has a question mark. It’s because he knows Cruz won’t be successful because you can’t filibuster a budget bill. More pointless blustering from the professional blusterer.

  • mickrussom

    Stop the Obama regime and omurdercare any way we can. Not that the GOP is great, but the low live turkey pukes aka democrats have crossed the line and are traitors and must be stopped.

  • rataezo

    Who put Ricky Ricardo in charge. This guy is really annoying. Obamacare will happen whether you like it or not.

    • Joel C Pousson

      Cruz has more intellect in his circumcized foreskin than Obama has in his entire cabinet, PLUS the ENTIRE Democrap Party.

      • rataezo

        He can’t even run for president.

    • Quit_Lying

      what about if the country likes it or not
      cause they don’t !

      • rataezo

        Not everybody hates it, Im sure if your were unemployed you would welcome it. Why deny people health care, I don’t ge it.

        • Quit_Lying

          why force others to buy it for them ?

    • notanobamaliar

      If you really think anyone will go along with it your are a bigger fool than Obama.

  • yubnub

    Obama is playing Chess, Boehner is playing Checkers

    • John

      and yubnub is playing with himself. In Oakland.

      hahahahahahahahaha!!!

    • Joel C Pousson

      I could beat Obama and his ENTIRE foreign policy team in a game of RISK.

      • Carl Spackler

        So could my dog. My dog also created more shovel ready jobs than Obama.

    • Jwash

      Hey Yanub,
      Lol, you meant the Russian President Vladimir Putin is playing chess and your boy Obama is playing Chinese checkers…

    • notanobamaliar

      Obama is playing his fiddle as America goes down the drain.

  • yubnub

    Checkmate Obama

    • John

      go fish yubnub. ahahahahahahahah!!!!

  • rataezo

    Im a gay man and a gay journalist.

    • yubnub

      Doug Danger!

      • rataezo

        You are correct! People think its a serious statement if only they knew where it came from.

    • Jon_Babtist

      You should be happy we have a gay president.

      • rataezo

        Aren’t the Republicans the ones that go looking for men in bathroom stalls or flirt with male interns. Im sure they are happy with the president.

        • wagb83

          NO it’s democracts who run gay call services from their home…

          • rataezo

            Maybe but at least they aren’t looking for men in airport bathroom stalls and most of them are open about it. Watch a doc called Outraged, most of closet gays are Republicans. Go figure.

    • Quit_Lying

      who cares ?

  • yubnub

    If you’re happy and you know it clap your hands

    CLAP CLAP!

    If you’re happy and you know it clap your hands

    CLAP CLAP!

    If you’re happy and you know it because Republicans are morons, if you’re happy and you know it clap your hands.

    CLAP CLAP!

    • RKM1954

      Good boy!

      (Good grief. I wish they would not let those darn window lickers near a key board.)

      • Carl Spackler

        Im fine with letting them by a key board. I wish they werent allowed by a voting booth.

    • Jwash

      Do you have permission from your mama to use her photo as your avatar picture?

      Just curious….

    • notanobamaliar

      Infected by the clap are you?

  • yubnub

    If they Republicans spent a sliver of time actually coming up with a healthcare plan of their own, or god forbid actually arguing/discussing the issues they have with the proposed bill instead of flat out rejecting it; they might actually gain some supporters. It’s obvious their policy of obstructionism isn’t working.

    • clarinet

      If the filibuster consisted of reading the Republican alternative to Obamacare there would be something gained from the tact.

    • Bruce Goodmansen

      They did and they have, but you’ve been too busy playing in your mama’s basement to notice.

    • Carl Spackler

      It should not be replaced with anything. The government shoudl get out of healthcare. The main reason prices went up was because the government got involved, prevented the selling of insurance across state lines. get the government out of healthcare….. We have a problem with every part of the bill as it is not good for the economy, healthcare or America.

  • clarinet

    This filibuster by Cruz isn’t leadership, it is free publicity for himself.

    • Jon_Babtist

      It is both. Anyone willing to stand up against the destruction for America deserves credit.

  • seewillie

    Go Ted, you da man! Mcconnell, you’re a POS.

    • John

      and yubnub is from Oakland. hahahahahahahahah!!!

  • War_Machine2

    Keep up the good work Senator Cruz! We are watching and will remember come election time.

  • Rush_Fan

    Kudos Senator Cruz! If nothing else, it will force the Democrat-run mainstream media networks (all but Fox News) to spend time they would rather avoid, covering someone who will talk about the dire effects of ObamaCare.

    • Sarcastro

      Yeah, a healthcare system where being poor, loosing your job, having a child with a preexisting condition like cancer, etc… can’t bankrupt you really sounds terrible.

      Sorry, as a human being I’m proud to not mind the idea of people chipping in and working together to ensure that the least among us are still able to have quality health care.

      Sadly it seems the people most likely to claim to be ‘conservative’ with old fashioned ‘christian values’ are the ones most likely to spit in the face of everything Jesus represented.

      • John

        oh now Jesus is involved. hahahahahaha! is he involved when you are comitting your own personal sins against him? right.

      • ferryman

        If it’s all the same to you, I’d rather be alive and bankrupt, rather than dead and leaving a nice chunk of change to the government.

      • Rush_Fan

        A poorly thought out healthcare system that no one read before passing, run by government bureaucrats, and costing trillions of wasted dollars, is not a lucid idea for a stable and effective healthcare system. Just ask the citizens in Detroit Michigan, and other cities run by big-government Democrats that are now bankrupt.

        Get the government out of healthcare! The ability for consumers to purchase private health insurance across state lines can’t help but increase competition and lower costs. Increasing heath savings accounts and providing consumers with more visibility as to what their healthcare is costing them (just as when they purchase car insurance and any product) will also help lower costs. Tort reform will enable doctors to not have to run unnecessary tests just to protect themselves from law suits.

        Finally if Obamacare is so good, why are the projected costs estimated to skyrocket, and why are once the biggest supporters of ObamaCare, the UNIONs asking Obama to exclude them?

  • MayerRothschild

    Good. Good.

  • lynched1

    Oh No! Not “shut down the government”. Whatever are we to do.

  • Anyone but Obama

    NEW CONGRESS. We have no chance of saving this country unless we vote ALL INCUMBENTS out and gt a new Congress. It doesn’t matter what party, we just have to get rid of the ones we have now that will not represent us.

    THAT’S their job and they aren’t doing it and don’t care. We can’t keep having this same thing over and over. Dems vote as a group and GOP does the same. It just doesn’t work.

    Please wake up people.

  • Kemit

    Is there a person alive in America today who does not believe that John McCain and Lindsey Graham will vote with the Democrat party??????
    seriously! these two devils are guaranteed to betray any and everything conservatives want to accomplish. They will work OVERTIME to destroy conservative principles and goals. That is guaranteed!

    • ferryman

      Better add Peter King to that list!

  • Major Kalhoun

    Yes. Let us pass a clean bill so Mr. Obama and his Progressive Liberal friends can continue to party large and send millions to their friends while bankrupting America, destroying American jobs with the Obamacare monstrosity, and bankrupting us with their back room printing press, running all day and night devaluing the Amrican dollar. Yes, we must let Obama have more money to spend while he completes the destruction of America and brings in the New World Order where he and his rich friends rule over everyone. Let’s go for broke!

  • loljaeger

    Senator Cruz you’re on the right track! Don’t give up your backing is growing every day! More & more people are seeing the light!

  • Quit_Lying

    yes we can – GO Sen Cruz!

  • clarinet

    If the government shuts down, who will print the money propping up Obama?

  • worstscumpresidentever

    Folks…Evolution is true. I did a test the other day. I took a dump in a petri dish and after a little time an Obama emerged.

  • clarinet

    Many democrats I know think health insurance will be free come October 1. Any ideas on how to wake up the truly stupid among us?

    • A P

      You can’t fix stupid regretably. Then again, 43% of adult americans pay no federal income tax – so why wouldn’t they want free stuff.

  • Jon_Babtist

    Anyone who hates America should love ObamaCare.

  • P3warrior

    Get some comfortable shoes Senator Cruz, and Senate Republicans put your full support to Mr. Cruz and to Mr.. Lee. I look forward to the filibuster and crushing defeat of any attempt at BS from Dirty Harry.
    DEFUND>>>DEFUND>>>DEFUND Barrycare and send him to a real banana republic.
    And if this is ‘messing’ with Barry, I am relishing every minute of it.

  • Sarcastro

    Move along. Your pathetic scare tactics may be able to frighten the most selfish, racist, and otherwise ‘conservative’ voters. Fortunately the dustbin of history is filled with people who stand in the way of progress.

    • johnrhett

      Change isn’t necessarily progress, and even Putin has said (see Pravda) that Obama is stupid for taking us down the road to socialism. I suppose, like most idiot liberals, that you’ll say that Obama isn’t a socialist, but Pravda has been saying it continually since 2008, and they should know.

    • wagb83

      You call ‘conservative’ voters “selfish” but it’s really you and your ilk who are the truly selfish. What is the dustbin of history full of? Despots who try to run the lives of those who’d rather run their own. You should “move along” We won’t…

    • http://disqus.com/WilderNapalm/ Wilder Napalm

      Why do you hide your activity from the rest of the community? Are you ashamed of your past post? You are a typical liberal coward……

    • Churchillis1

      Ha! Progress. Thousands of employees losing hours, benefits and even jobs and this buffoon calls it progress.

  • Nic

    People act like they don’t have choices. I plan to not participate in Obamacare. My rates went up 232%. I refuse to take a government handout. I believe in personal responsibility. I’m taking my money that I would have paid towards premiums and depositing it into a bank account. I’d rather pay for medical care that I actually receive rather than for insurance that I won’t use.

    • A P

      If you file a tax return you must show proof of medical insurance – neat how they did that.

      • worstscumpresidentever

        Lie on it. They do.

        • Quit_Lying

          when they lie they get paid leave, reassigned or a new job
          when we lie we get to go to jail

      • Nic

        I’ll be honest on my tax return. The IRS, however, has no authority to garnish my wages. They can withhold a tax return; so I am claiming as many deductions now so that I won’t be getting a return.

        • nemcrna

          Don’t be naive. The IRS has the power to destroy you and everyone of us

          • Nic

            I refuse to live in fear. For ACA the IRS has no authority under that law to garnish wages for the fine. All they may do by law is send me a nasty letter. We people must never forget that the government gets its power from us

    • Sarcastro

      Thank you for ensuring that when you or a family member inevitably gets very sick or into an accident the rest of us will be forced to foot the bill your savings can’t cover.

      It’s selfish attitudes like this that represent the worst of the GOP mentality.

      • A P

        Hmmm – so when 43% of americans do not pay federal income tax, they are all selfish too ?

        • Sarcastro

          When those 43% make less money collectively that the top 1% then yeah, they should be chipping in a proportionate amount of their income. Which, by the way, is a far higher portion than the richest when you actually add in the full tax burden including SS, sales, and other state and local taxes.

          • Churchillis1

            Right. Keep on dreaming. Facts don’t bother you much, do they Sarcastro?

          • A P

            But back to your point – calling someone selfish for choosing to not pay for insurance must therefore extend to 43% of americans.

      • wagb83

        If your precious “oblameocare” is so wonderful why did congress exempt themselves from it???????????

        • Sarcastro

          Actually it was the republicans that pushed that law into effect: It’s amazing how listening to too much Fox can actually make you ignore the actual facts.

          The trouble started in 2009 with a cheap stunt orchestrated by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa).

          While lawmakers already get insurance through the Federal Employees Health Benefits Plan, just like other federal employees, the Iowa Republican pushed a proposal to force members of Congress out of the federal system and into exchanges.

          The point wasn’t to shape policy, but to create a talking point for Republicans. Grassley desperately wanted to say, “Those darn Democrats think the exchanges are good enough for millions of Americans, but not good enough for themselves,” and he assumed Dems would balk at his “plan” because they’d be unwilling to give up the generous Federal Employees Health Benefits Plan.

          But Democrats called Grassley’s bluff, embraced his idea, and added it to the Affordable Care Act.

          And that’s where the story gets a little tricky — Grassley’s partisan-stunt-gone-wrong sent members and their aides to get coverage through exchange marketplaces, but never created a mechanism to make that happen. His poorly written law made it impossible for them to actually follow through on getting it.

          • wagb83

            Really? Do you have a Kool-aid IV or do you chug the stuff straight up? The Republicans haven’t run the senate for YEARS Dirtbag Reid could have stopped it in a heartbeat but he didn’t. Wonder why not?

          • Sarcastro

            I’m sorry if the truth doesn’t fit your narrative. But the simple fact of the matter is that your claims about congress exempting themselves from Obamacare was a GOP stunt that went wrong. It had nothing to do with them not wanting it.

          • wagb83

            Answer the question… Why didn’t Harry Reid stop it? (theme from Jeopardy)

      • Churchillis1

        I have health care that I already pay for Sarcastro. Stuff your liberal guilt in a sack.

        • Sarcastro

          So? I wasn’t talking to you, I was responding to Nic, the guy making the comment that he doesn’t want to buy health insurance.

          • Churchillis1

            Fair enough.

      • aj3766

        Socialism never works. No matter how much you scream and yell. It just doesn’t work.

      • CycloneOz

        You want to force doctors and nurses to care for you.

        You would force others into slavery.

        • Sarcastro

          NO, that’s what refusing to buy insurance does since they have to treat you.

          I want doctors to actually get paid, thus universal coverage.

      • Nic

        I HAD a good policy BEFORE Obamacare. The government is forcing my hand. The new ACA compliance forces me to pay for abortion and maternity coverage which I won’t use and which forces my rates through the roof!

      • Nic

        Furthermore, I have ALWAYS paid my own way. When the unexpected has happened, God provided. God has never let me down. I can’t claim that of the government. The government is not my God! I can’t help it if you have no faith or if you have never experienced divine intervention. The government is there to protect my rights so that I can pursue what makes me happy. The government is not there to make me happy nor to dictate to me what happiness is.

        • Sarcastro

          You’ve never had a true medical disaster then. Otherwise you’d know the MILLIONS of dollars necessary when disaster strikes.

          Even hundreds of thousands, like my poor across the street neighbor girl that just last week was horrifically burned and sent to the ICU for severe burns over her body. Days of ICU is already hundreds of thousands of dollars- something no one can prepare for without insurance. Who knows the long term implications assuming she doesn’t succumb to the inevitable infections that comes with 3rd+ degree burns.

          Save your self-righteous “I can do everything on my own” for someone gullible enough to believe you. When you decide to let your own children die rather than take them to an ICU you won’t be able to afford but someone else will pick up the bill for then you can speak.

          • Nic

            I have example after example of how God has provided for me. I’m not worried, and no one else is going to pay my way. It’s not self righteousness at all. It’s my personal testimony and you can’t refute it.

          • civilduty

            I don’t recall anyone being denied healthcare because they do not have insurance, If someone couldn’t afford health insurance it was paid for by us the taxpayer (see Medicaid). If the person did not have insurance or medicaid the costs were always past on to people that have insurance. That being said, it was still cheaper than Obamacare. I’ll be the first one to stand up and say our healthcare system needs something to keep cost down, this aint it.Throw the whole damned thing in the trash and start over.

    • allshallpass

      don’t get cancer!

      • Nic

        I watched my step-father and sister die from cancer. They would have lived longer more healthy lives if they hadn’t taken any treatment. My step father’s blood count plummeted. The doctors removed his esophagus and stretched his stomach up. It could hold a couple tablespoons of food afterwards. They couldn’t get it all; so he went in for radiation which destroyed his organs as well. My sister went in for radiation which caused her to stroke and lose her ability to walk. No thank you! If the good Lord wants me to stay on this earth, then He will have to keep me healthy. Otherwise, I’m ready to go.

  • alpha2omega47

    Let’s fight! Go Senator Cruz!

    • aj3766

      I just called his office and let his staff know that this voting constituent is 100% behind him!

  • albundy57

    Go Senator Cruz!!! The only one who will stand up for the rights of the average citizen instead of backroom deals with the Unions, Industry, Financial Tycoons, etc. Harry Reid, you are a pittance of the man of this Senator and do not deserve to represent ANY citizen of the United States!

  • clarinet

    I purchase individual health insurance. Rates just went up $150/month due to the “Affordable” Health Care Act. Thanks a lot. Viva la revolution.

  • docwhocuts

    drag them to their knees…. force a vote.
    REPEAL has passed the house.

    time for a vote in the senate.
    progressives obstruct the vote.

    • Mike

      “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results” Albert Einstein – 41 times I believe, and still the same result

  • BeaveVillage

    Destroy Obamacare.

  • ThyOracle

    The C man be cruisin for duh bruisin. When the House Reps realize that der man got no juice (and no friends) in the Senate, and dat they be holdin the bag for shuttin down duh gov, he be in deep do-do.

  • NOWAY

    Note to Democrats, you will lose your seat if you go against Cruz

  • http://disqus.com/WilderNapalm/ Wilder Napalm

    Let it shut down. Vital functions will still be operating.

    • allshallpass

      yeah, who needs passports?!?!?

      • http://disqus.com/WilderNapalm/ Wilder Napalm

        Yeah passports are far more important the preventing the collapse of the economy.

  • aj3766

    Shut down the federal government!!!!!

    • The Reader

      It will be shutting down in a hour–it’s Friday, it doesn’t open until Monday–no one will even notice.

      • aj3766

        Agreed. But I’m thinking a little more like defunding the administrative side to the tune of about 75% forever.

        • The Reader

          I was joking around. I am on your side.:)

  • Chip

    The USA will collapse economically and socially by 2015. There is no way around it. The dollar will be destroyed and there will be chaos and anarchy. People will simply fight like dogs for what they want / need: food, water, electric, etc. Don’t let them take your guns now. You are going to need them. We are over the cliff already and free-falling. We are past the point of no return. Some really bad 8HIT is just around the curve.

  • Tipi Rick

    No it’s up to Senate Democrats and RINOs to take a look at public opinion for “change” we believe in. Call your Senators and raise Hell! Promise you will vote against them id they do not vote to defund this economic atrocity.

  • larryburke

    Ted Cruz is a buffoon. His childish grandstanding will do nothing. Obamacare is the law through 2016. Period. Capital markets will fall and it will cost every person who has saved for the future greatly, if the federal Govt shuts down.

    The only thing that will repeal Obamacare is a GOP president in 2016. Acting like a spoiled children who didn’t get their way will guarantee failure in the 2016 presidential election.
    When is the party of good government going to push aside the petulant child wing of the GOP?

    • Bernie Blasnalus

      Except for all the wavered portions.

    • CycloneOz

      Did you get a precious waiver from dear leader?

    • clarinet

      Grandstanding it is. Unless Cruz reads the Republican alternative to ObamaKare for the filibuster. Oh, nothing to read. Drat. Again.

      • Bernie Blasnalus

        Its called the American Healthcare Reform Act.

        • aj3766

          Affordable for whom?

          • Bernie Blasnalus

            Not Obama’s plan.. The Republican alternate to the UnAffordable Care Act

        • clarinet

          I look forward to hearing Cruz read every word of it.

          • Bernie Blasnalus

            Doubtless you will be in rapt attention.

          • clarinet

            Why don’t the Republicans buy national airtime and sell it directly to the public? Is it unsalable, or is no one up to playing spokesperson?

          • sailcat

            Why don’t the media shill it the way they shilled O-care?

          • clarinet

            The mass media is liberal democrats, must end run them.

          • sailcat

            Must destroy them and drive them to irrelevance. THEY are the Enemy!

          • aj3766

            It’ll take weeks!

    • aj3766

      Constitution says the House approves funding. If they choose to not fund, that’s Constitutional. No matter what you say or how many fits you pitch.

      • larryburke

        Reading is fundamental AJ. Where did i say anything about Cruz doing something unconstitutional.
        What you fail to understand, is that with a Dem president you would have to close the government to de-fund a sitting presidents signature legislation.
        It is stupid talk for ultra partisans.

    • The Reader

      If O’bamanotabouthealthnotaboutcare stands it will ruin the rest of our lives-and our children’s lives-not just for the next 3 years that O’stupid is in the White House. Geez, get a set.
      Cruz is an exceptional American, doing the people’s work, most of these others should take notice.

      • larryburke

        Sir, I can guarantee that those pistachio nuts you are wearing are a far cry from the iron ones I carry.
        Grow up and call the president by his proper name if you want anyone to consider you more than a child.

        • The Reader

          I can guarantee you that that I have no balls, nuts or iron ones–but you certainly are welcome to apply for the O’bam-me ball washer job. Seems like you have the credentials.
          PS if O’bama ever acts like a president I might consider addressing him as one–until then carry on with your ball washing.

    • Nic

      You forget one thing. There is a reason why the House of Representatives was given the power of the purse. The House is the most representative body of the people.

      • larryburke

        I forgot nothing. There is exactly zero chance the house is defunding this bill.

        • Nic

          Then our country will collapse in one year from the financial liabilities of the ACA. The amount in subsidies paid is going to be enormous.

  • CycloneOz

    DEFUND FOODSTAMPS
    DEFUND WELFARE
    DEFUND ALL THE OTHER PRESENTS FROM SANTA

    When the zombies bring it…it’s on.

  • Confucius

    $$$ We did not ask to be transformed and we did not ask to be trillions in debt.

    We want the Congress to “mess” with the Hydra, that is its job.

    Witness the “genius” in the executive branch (and some in the senate) pretending to represent us, forcing Obamacare on us, forcing 10 years of war on us and wanting even more, trillions in debt and printing more, hell bent on dis-mantling our constitution, country severely fractured.

    Witness Obama along with big corporations transforming us via “immigration reform” telling us that “to ensure U.S. global competitiveness” we must dismantle our boarders and give up what jobs remain to hoards of low and hi-tech foreigners who can hardly speak English and do not share our values.

    Obama and his friends transformation is erasing our culture to enrich themselves and their bottom-line.

    A few of his friends include; GE, FaceBook, Google, HP, TRW, UPS, Goldman Sachs, Verizon, Cisco, TI, Walt Disney, AutoDesk, Eaton, Sears, FICO, Tyco, American Express, Shell, ADM, GE, AllState, Coca Cola, J&J, Pfizer, CSC, Honeywell, etc.)

    Where is the up-side for us, the citizens of the USA?

    This hydra must be dismantled by cutting it off of all funds and starving it to death. After it dies we start the process of rebuilding and repairing our republic.

    Washington, DC is *** NOT *** the United States of America, WE ARE!!!

    Have a nice day…

  • otaycec

    Ted Cruz is an American hero. If he can pull this off, he will have given the U.S. one last chance to cover our debts and allow businesses to start investing again.

  • A P

    There is one sure way to defund all government programs – insolvency ! Dems got that one taken care of.

  • Jon_Babtist

    You didn’t build that.
    I didn’t draw the red line, you did.
    Raising the debt limit doesn’t raise the debt.
    Obama care is reducing health care costs.

    • clarinet

      Humor in its lowest form.

    • nemcrna

      We are all going to love Obamacare in 5 years. We are just too stupid to understand that right now

      • aj3766

        Just like we love the social security administration and the IRS…. What stellar models of efficiency and honest disbursement of other people’s money.

      • Soldyrkan

        You are funny as well as delusional.

    • notanobamaliar

      The deceiver in chief promised that premiums would go down $2,500 for each family. How’s that big reduction working out for everybody?

  • aj3766

    WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?!

  • vincehugh

    I noticed how liberal channels like MSNBC and CNN were constantly attacking Cruz for the last few months. Now I know why, they see him as a formidable counter to their liberal agenda. Ted Cruz might be the guy we need for our next president!

    • Guest

      Hey, The Dear Leader didn’t need a valid transcript, a valid birth certificate, any released college writings, no job from the private sector. I’m thinkin’ Cruz is our man.

  • Richard McCargar

    Shut it down.

  • CycloneOz

    STOP AMERICAN SLAVERY!

    DESTROY THE ACA!

    DEFUND FY-2014

  • Tipi Rick

    Any Republican who votes for cloture is voting to fund Obamacare and is toast in ’14 & ’16.

    • RKM1954

      Then the (D)s should be happy about this.

  • aj3766

    Shut down the federal government NOW!!!!

  • hydrangea1

    Go Ted Cruz! This is what we elected you to do!

  • CycloneOz

    STOP THE MADNESS.

    SHUT IT DOWN!

  • MakingSense

    Niels – to be clear…Republicans will not be shutting down the government. It will be the Democrats doing so. It’s their choice….and Obama’s.

  • Quit_Lying

    dem bureaucrats wont get paid if the gov gets shut down
    that would be nice

  • CycloneOz

    STOP WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION
    STOP FEDERAL THEFT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY
    STOP AMERICAN COMMUNISTS
    STOP THE 2013 VERSION OF AMERICAN SLAVERY

    DEFUND FY-2014

  • RobC2010

    Wow is the Senate only Harry Reid now?? Seems he speaks like he is an emperor, just like Obama.

    They are public employees, nothing more, and rather poor ones at that.

    • RKM1954

      In the private sector, they would be fired.

  • Jackyboy2

    The Republican Party is about to self destruct. Grab some popcorn and a good seat.

    • worstscumpresidentever

      Actually they are about to re-emerge and re-energize!! 2014 where are you!!!???

      • Jackyboy2

        They will alienate alienate the moderate voters who carry the swing states, They will likely hold on to the House in 2014 and will once again forfeit the White house in 2016 and possibly the House.. Keep an eye on the Markets.

        • RKM1954

          The markets are all smoke and mirrors. You should be happy that your side will retain the Senate and the White House.

          • Jackyboy2

            The markets are smoke and mirrors? Really. They are messing with the credit of the United States.

          • RKM1954

            Short answer….Yes.

          • Soldyrkan

            The markets are absolutely rigged.

        • notanobamaliar

          Yawn.

    • Churchillis1

      Keep watching. We’re about to give you a really good show…

    • Quit_Lying

      the Republicans are doing the will of the majority of Americans !
      it’s the dems that very well could be the ones going up in smoke

      • Zuni3

        Lets add a few RINO’s to the fire; they need to go also

    • RKM1954

      According to a Real Clear Politics combined poll average, only 42 %
      approve of Obamacare and 52% disapprove. Sounds like the (R)s are listening to the will of the people.

      • Jackyboy2

        They don’t approve of a government shutdown and ultimately refusing to raise the debt ceiling, which they also threaten, in addition to voting down a continuing resolution.

        • RKM1954

          Then the (D)s will do just fine next election cycle. You should smile!

          • Jackyboy2

            I am not a democrat or a republican. This is about the Full Faith and Credit of the United States.

          • RKM1954

            LMFAO…Now that’s funny!

    • CycloneOz

      And the Hussein administration is struggling through multitudes of scandals. They are the laughing stock of the world. And now…the ATA (Absolute Tyranny Act) is in the slaughterhouse.

      I’ve got your popcorn right here!

    • Deathstalker74

      I bet you thought the filibuster would end the world too. Get a grip. Defunding Obamacare WILL not end the GOP. People never wanted this bill in the first place.

  • Deathstalker74

    Who cares how it’s done. Look at the unethical way Obama passed this legislation to begin with. If Republicans have to come up with some convoluted plan in order to ultimately defund it, so be it.

  • IRightULeft

    Ted Cruz for President!

    • Sarcastro

      Him running would be the best possible thing that could happen… for the Dems.

      • RKM1954

        Then you should be happy.

        Hilliary/Benghazi 2016!

        • CycloneOz

          “What Difference Does It Make – 2016″

          • RKM1954

            That’s her campaign slogan.

          • firstladyfinger

            “What Difference Does It Make – 2016 if
            I”m a Liar, cheat,sneak, stupid enough to not divorce my cheating and lying husband, inept, and just an all around insidious biotch.” is that alittle clearer?

          • CycloneOz

            Bill is Hillary’s beard.

        • The Reader

          Hillary/Benghazi/Sham of a marriage bi-sexual/ stroke victim

          • CycloneOz

            If Hillary wins, Houma will pleasure her in the Orifice Office.

    • Bernie Blasnalus

      As a Canadian born citizen he is serving well in the senate.

      • CycloneOz

        And the Kenyan is not…bummer, huh?

        • Bernie Blasnalus

          The Kenyen did not serve well in the senate and even less so in the WH.

          • firstladyfinger

            Present.

      • RKM1954

        At least he knows where his birth certificate is.

        • Bernie Blasnalus

          And he didn’t to fly a staffer to Hawaii to pick up a pdf copy of it either.

    • Zuni3

      The man does show Leadership qualities

  • JUde

    Any republican who doesn’t stand with the conservitives in my state will lose the next election. Landrieu is in trouble in La.

    • ThyOracle

      If Cruz is successful in making the House Republicans the patsy on this one, the Dems might take back the House. Look up what happened in 1995. The Republicans got clobbered. Clinton got re-elected and Gingrich had to resign after the 1998 House election went badly for him.

      • firstladyfinger

        The Republicans are patsies already, Call a spade a spade.

        • http://www.facebook.com/rene.demonteverde.1 Rene Demonteverde

          Dont bring racism to the discussion, you racist.

          • firstladyfinger

            A spade is a card. There are also hearts,clubs and diamonds. You have to be able to count to 10 in most card games.

  • zonable

    Do not give in to the Demo-Nazis and their RINO Quisling collaborators. Their house of cards will eventually collapse. We will pick up the pieces and rebuild it.

  • http://disqus.com/WilderNapalm/ Wilder Napalm

    Got my insurance book for 2014 today. To keep my present family coverage it is going up from $1207.00/mo. to $1781.00/mo. For the last 10 years or so my average increase was about $50.00/mo.

    To all Republicans in the Senate. You better stand your ground or you will find yourself on the unemployment line. Not a threat, a promise.

    • clarinet

      My individual policy just went up $150/month. So glad Obama made it more “affordable.”

    • westside_resident

      0bama– “Average family will save $2,500″

      • firstladyfinger

        LOL, Obutto was right by the democrat accounting methods, he was hoping the cost wouldgo UP $5ooo so by only going up by 1/2, you saved $2500, c’mon we all know how the crapheads think. Holy cow Batman!!! I thought I saw another 85 billion bucks come off the press!!!!

    • CycloneOz

      Listen to Mr. Wilder Napalm you herd of RINOs!

      We’re going to take your balls and mount them on our walls.

      • http://disqus.com/WilderNapalm/ Wilder Napalm

        Ashamed to say this in public but one of my Senators is Mitch “the little beeoch” McConnell. But I am more than proud to say the other Senator is MR. RAND PAUL.

    • souphands

      And do you know why that is? Because your insurance provider wants more money.

      • http://disqus.com/WilderNapalm/ Wilder Napalm

        In his speech, A Politics of Conscience, Obama stated, and I quote “I will sign a universal healthcare bill into law by end of my first term as President that will cover every American and cut the cost of the typical families premium by up to $2,500.00 a year.”

        You have the never to blame the industry when Obama lied? You need to go back a read just what this man promised and what he has delivered. Stop being a drone and start researching the lies you have been told.

  • Portia2708

    Good luck with all that…the American people will be even more upset with the GOP if they try and stop this president’s signature law. Romney ran on eliminating it last November and lost…BIG time…Cruz is just looking for more money…but, GOOD…go for this suicide mission…I am LOVING the GOP for this foolish move…shows what this party is made of…Newt must be secretly laughing over the GOP doing what he did…KNOWING the end result

    • westside_resident

      Dork.

    • clarinet

      Trouble was that Romney and McCain before him were/are both ineffectual dweebs.

    • RKM1954

      Can’t wait for voter photo ID laws to take effect.

    • tornado925

      you’re wrong…..last November, americans didn’t know what was in obamacare….now they know and americans hate it.

    • ThyOracle

      Cruz is going to learn the same lesson that Gringrich did when he complained about “cannibalism”, after he lost his speakership in 1998.

    • The Reader

      Sure all O’bama did was force this crap law through. He spent the first two years paying off whom ever he could. Yeah like Americans are going to be upset. Most of the low information voters will be glad they don’t have their taxes confiscated.

    • sandiegocounty

      Do you even know what’s in the Obamacare bill?

  • JumpinJehosephat

    Not just “yes,” but… “HELL YES!”

    • ThyOracle

      This might be the way that the Dems can take back the House. The Senate Repubs are not going to take the blame for shutting down the gov, so they will pass the buck back to the House. And then we will see how many remember how badly it went for them when they shut down the gov in 1995.

      • JumpinJehosephat

        Take the blame for shutting it down? We would give them a hero’s parade down Main Street in this part of the country if they shut down that corrupt POS. Even for one week! I would be happy with merely cutting the federal government in half and restoring some constitutional checks and balances. Shutting it down completely would be outstanding! I wonder what Sen. Cruz will try to defund after Obamacare? Dept. of Homeland Security? Dept. of Education? Housing and Urban Development? A target rich environment, to be sure!

        • ThyOracle

          You should help Gov. Perry on his next campaign, since he can never remember what agencies to cut.

  • Blandly_Urbane

    “It’s time for Mitch McConnell to show some leadership and deliver the 41 votes needed to defeat cloture on Harry Reid’s plan to fund Obamacare,”

    • clarinet

      Mitch McConnell…think Elmer Fudd.

      • Blandly_Urbane

        What’s rabbits got to do with it?

  • CycloneOz

    Yo! Harry Reid!

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    ………………./…./
    …………./´¯/’…’/´¯¯`•¸
    ………./’/…/…./……./¨¯
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    …………..………….

    • wagb83

      Nice! Make one for King Soetoro too!

      • Kyle b

        he’d think it was Reggie and wanna put it in….

  • http://www.facebook.com/rene.demonteverde.1 Rene Demonteverde

    Mitch McConnell courage ? Forget it. He is being run over by McCain and some of the Republican Senators. But those who voted to fund this montrosity will be remembered well by the voters next year, especially if Obamacare turns out to be a train wreck as predicted by many.

  • Quit_Lying

    Go Cruz Go !
    Rubio, Paul.. what are you gonna do ???
    In fact, every single republican senator should filibuster !!!
    Shut It Down !!

  • tornado925

    Obama has turned the office of the presidency into a circus vaudeville show.

  • Jay Santos

    I’m know there are others, but Cruz and Sessions are the guys that to me represent hope of returning to a county I’m not ashamed to live in.

  • Jon_Babtist

    You mean there is someone in the world besides Putin who will stand up to the undocumented lying fraud in the White House? As seen when someone of substance stands up to him he folds like cheap law furniture.

    • http://www.facebook.com/rene.demonteverde.1 Rene Demonteverde

      What do you mean undocumented ? He just received his citizenship papers last year.

  • CaptainQuality

    Yes my neocon friends, shut down the government, its what the people want, its good for your party’s chances in the next 20 years

    • RKM1954

      Smile and be happy for your good fortune! Let’s see if you are correct.

    • Fred

      better to shut it down , then to let the libnuts, destroy it!

    • Kyle b

      dnc payin ya by the troll or the hour?

    • Tony

      they have already been ruined. they’ve written of women (who have a brain), minorities (who are actually the majority), and anyone who doesn’t watch fox news. GO NEOCON CONSERVATIVE ANTI SOCIALISTS WHO STILL DRIVE ON STREETS AND CALL THE POLICE! GO!

    • okaayfine

      Only you libfarts would notice the government being closed for business. Us normal people aren’t running to the mailbox daily, yearning for that oh so important welfare check

  • Fred

    IM SENDING CRUZ MORE MONEY NOW!

    • Mike

      Don’t send your single wide rent money. You don’t want to be evicted.

      • Kyle b

        bigot

        • Tony

          a bigot because he called someone poor? sir, im sure you can give us better examples of bigotry. have at it.

  • JJHLH

    Ted Cruz, my favorite Senator. Super smart and conservative.

    • Tony

      super canadian. has he officially renounced his true citizenship yet? now THERE’S a real cuban-american from canada. born to be prez.

      • farmer_guy

        Better to have a cuban-american from Canada than a Commy from Kenya

        • Tony

          yeah farmer guy…he’s from Kenya…and you dont get any government subsidies….YOU sir are the thief! you sir should reject the funding the govt tries to give to you. you sir are destined to be washed away in history as a foolish blip that once walked the land of this great country.

          • farmer_guy

            The way I was raised sir. if you don’t work you don’t eat…
            Commy care, mean each of us $20,000 a yr for coverage that is no coverage at all. Don’t so blind that they care about the people because they don’t…

          • Tony

            who the eff is paying 20k a year? not me. my premium was raised by less than $500. commy care. nice to see you are still willing to take a farm subsidy, claim to “work”, and then call the ACA communist. Ladies and Gentleman, the epitome of hypocrisy.

          • farmer_guy

            1) my Post as name does not mean I get subsides from the government. It’s just a name… :)

            2) Premiums are going thru the roof, doctors are leaving practice. Companies are reducing hours or outsourcing to cut health care costs this junk is creating. Social Medicine has never succeeded anywhere. Keep drinking your KoolAid if you want too.

          • Tony

            those companies choose to do that to keep profits up, for the shareholders. social medicine has and does succeed in MANY countries. try doing some research on your own instead of just listening to beck or rush or hannity. you all sound the same. my premiums DID go up, but i am glad to throw down a few extra dollars to help save americans, and STOP americans who don’t have and wont get insurance, from leeching off the system. seems odd a conservative wouldn’t want people to take personal responsibility for their own health care.

  • Derek001

    We need to back these guys up. Write, email and support them.

    http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/

    Keep the pressure on and we will prevail.

    • Tony

      actually you won’t even if it passes the senate, it will be vetoed. good luck though!

  • RMorrow

    Go Senator Cruz at God’s speed! The entire world is behind you. Time to get rid of the lies of Obama like yesterday.

  • Fred

    we need a civil war! bad, at this point!

    • CycloneOz

      DEFUND OBAMA PHONES
      DEFUND FOOD STAMPS

      …and you got it. The zombies will bring it…and then its on.

      • Jay Santos

        Defund Section 8
        Defund Pigford
        Defund every community organizing group
        Defund Head Start

        • CycloneOz

          DEFUND EVERY PRESENT FROM OBAMA CLAUS.

          • Tony

            head start was bush. section 8 was nixon. fox news viewer.

    • Tony

      y? how have you personally been affected by this President? What did this independent do to you to warrant you wanting to kill me?

      • okaayfine

        Dip_shit

      • Fred

        this azz wipe called my 75 year old mom a racist and a Nazi.just because she went to a tea party rally!

        • Tony

          if the shoe fits….the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree either. the tea party is FULL of racists and Nazi’s, your bag o bones included.

  • Fred

    all ready called Cruz’s office in support of a filibusterer. Called john Mc cokecain and told him to f off

  • 1johnconnor1

    i wish the GOP senators would stand united for something you would THINK they are all against. it sucks when they throw individual conservative senators under the boss whenever one of them dares to stand up for whats right (think rand paul, ted cruz). get with it gop or kiss my money AND vote goodbye.

  • tornado925

    no president should be allowed to drop $20 TRILLION + debt onto america

  • Kyle b

    McInsane is looking for his propeller hat so he can fly away.

  • Fred

    1 202 224 3121 call call call

  • It was there

    Good opportunity to educate about not about health care health care act.
    Maybe also to discuss the bankruptcy done in March 2009 signed by Barrack Obama Tim Geithner and Hank Paulson that states US in bankruptcy owing FEDERAL RESERVE 14.8 trillion no longer sovereign nation. directed to US SUPREME COURT. His policies born out of created bankruptcy and makes for

    a strange set of events such as no budget and appropriations bill.
    Sure taking us where we don’t want to go.

  • firetheliberals

    Read the declaration of independence. King Obama is no better than King George

    • Bernie Blasnalus

      King George’s taxes and debt wasn’t this high.

  • rr_nyc

    LOL, left wing nuts in a tizzy. Let us hope the RINOs figure it out. But me, I think this is Cruz’s way of building the party around him. Now if a RINO votes YES, bulls-eye. To Cruz’s point, put your money where your mouth is.

    • ThyOracle

      House Dems hope that the Senate Repubs kick it back to the House after Reid strips out the language. If the Repubs continue to shut down the gov, it will give the Dems a chance to take back the house.

  • David_from_San_Diego

    Shut it down! I can’t wait until all the welfare checks stop going out, and Keith Alexander runs out of money to pay spies to read my e-mails. (Keith, you’re reading this post, too, aren’t you?)

  • David_from_San_Diego

    Dollars to doughnuts that John McAmnesty and Lindsey Grahamnesty fall all over each other to do the OPPOSITE of what Cruz suggests.

    • Fred

      mc cokecain and grahamcracker are both libnuts lovers

  • Portia2708

    The GOP had better get a handle on this guy…he just got elected to the Senate and he has taken over…sounds like he is trying to be the GOP equivalent of Obama

  • Rudy Campilii

    How about shutting the government down and arresting all the criminals in the House and Senate?

    • David Johnson

      You bet!

  • nate sammie

    Let’s get rid of the “Toddler in Chief”, and his administration.

  • JGTheMan

    Republicans wouldn’t be forcing a shutdown, Harry, you and the president would be doing that to save your failing law that has nothing to do with health care and everything to do with government power. You’d better defund Obamacare or the American people are coming after you hard.

  • Jimmybazball

    Way to go you jackazz…

  • Haeshu

    Anything to stop Obamacare PLEASE!

    I have insurance, but I won’t come January 1 when Obamacare kicks in. The problem is, the insurance I have now is being discontinued because it doesn’t meet all of the Obamacare mandates, such as covering pre-existing conditions, pregnancy and abortions. So they are offering up a new plan and it is almost triple what I used to pay. Of course, I make too much to qualify for a subsidy and have too little left after taxes and my expenses to pay for this new Obamacare policy.

    So no, I won’t be signing up and I won’t be paying any penalty. I won’t sign up for some bronze level piece of Obamacare cr*p that has a $5,000 deductible either. So I didn’t use to be a problem, but I will be a problem now.

    This is just another way to get hard working, tax paying white people with jobs to pay even more for people who refuse to help themselves. I, for one, have had enough and won’t be participating. Come and get me morons.

    Stop Obamacare now!!!

    • Magwheelz

      Amen.

  • stonehillady

    Heard through the grapevine, that as