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October 2, 2014

Harry Reid: Bundy Ranch Supporters Are ‘Domestic Terrorists’ (Video)

In one corner, the Senate majority leader. In the other corner, a Nevada rancher disputing the government’s authority to collect grazing fees and restrict access to land for his cattle.

On Thursday, Majority Leader Harry Reid said the armed supporters of the rancher, Cliven Bundy, are “domestic terrorists” at an event sponsored by the Las Vegas Review Journal.

“These people, who hold themselves out to be patriots, are not. They’re nothing more than domestic terrorists,” the Nevada Democrat said. “And I think that we are a country that people should follow the law, and what went up in Mesquite is not very good.

“I repeat, what went on up there is domestic terrorism,” Reid said.

Reid said he spoke recently with several top federal officials, including Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., FBI Director James B. Comey and Interior Secretary Sally Jewell about the ranch situation.

Bundy has been at loggerheads with the Bureau of Land Management over cattle grazing fees and access to federal land, with Bundy contending that the federal agency has no authority in the matter, despite court orders to the contrary.

Appearing Tuesday night on Fox News, Bundy alleged that the local sheriff is “the only man with arresting power in Clark County, Nevada.”

He added that Reid should stay out of local business, even though federal land management is well within the purview of the Interior Department.

“You know Harry, Nevada citizens, we the people elected you to go back to the United States Senate and take care of the United States business, which might be something like defend us from foreign nations,” Bundy said. “Harry, get back there and take care of that work and leave us alone here in Nevada.”

“You have no business here in Clark County,” Bundy said of Reid during that interview with Sean Hannity.

Clark County, where the Bundy ranch is located, is also the county that’s home to Las Vegas.

  • KarenJ

    Well, chances are that the neocon wingnuts in eastern Nevada did NOT elect Harry Reid, chances are the more populous western half of the state did.

    Which means a majority elected Reid, therefore a majority doesn’t agree with Cliven Bundy or the survivalist/militia/anarchists who support him. So, yeah, Harry Reid can speak his mind because he’s representing the majority of his constituents.

    • MrRedNeckParadise

      So, an illegal alien is a hero for his courage in standing up to the gov, but an American citizen who tells the government that they can’t take his stuff and sell it to big corporations or to political cronies and politician’s families is a nutcase???

    • Jack Everett

      Has nothing to do with Reed. Bundy either payse his bill or gets off public lands.

      • Layla

        Reid sent the army in to do a sheriff’s job.

    • Layla

      Sorry, but he’s out of his jurisdiction on this one.

  • John Hackett

    Its certainly domestic terrorist….but its the BLM that are the terrorists. How would you feel iof your 50+ year old mother was tnrown to the ground and your young boy was beat up by three BLM agents, your cattle shot and killed on land you have been grazing for over 100 years. Yep, thats terrorism. Remindes me of Ruby Ridge and Waco…yep…that was terrorism committed by the government. People have had enough….I support the Bundy family and am there on site to support them against a government that has failed to follow the Constitution and has bullied people trying to make a living, they are good people, I met the family. I will stand with them against the terroristsa that would harm them. Harry Reid has an agenda…..research it and follow the money…….One family against 250 armed BLM agents…tell me who the terrorists is.

    • Jack Everett

      Want to play welfare queen go find another country to mooch off.

    • pitch1934

      You use the resources, you pay for the resources. It is as fucking simple as that.

  • Vendetta

    Stick it Harry-(╍●‿●╍)-┌∩┐-

  • Feler S23

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  • Jack Everett

    It’s a simple choice Bundy pay your bill or get off my property.

  • Andre Leonard

    Stand your ground requires that someone take a stand and someone back down or be put down. We saw what happened here.

    • Jack Everett

      Bundy cut his own throat this time.

    • mikem42

      You saw what happened at Wounded Knee and Branch Davidian, and is that what should happen again? The government stood down to try to avoid that kind of incident. That doesn’t mean the anarchists “won”, just didn’t get put down at this time. The man Bundy is a cheat and thief, and in the old days would have been handled by the other ranchers, who pay their fair share while he doesn’t. He isn’t special, he is a law breaker. Let’s see where this ends, and I hope it isn’t a war. The USA has a lot of weapons.

      • Layla

        The American people are the world’s largest army. Never forget that. There were provisions set up in the Constitution for tyranny. That “army” should never have been sent in the first place. This was a Sheriff’s job.

        • mikem42

          The tyranny was King George. The lands involved are Federal (yours and mine) owned land, and everyone else pays for grazing. This crook steals it and uses his anti government crap to rationalize it. I want the rent due on land I own, and so should you. Don’t join in the army of crazies, the anarchists. Please show more intelligence and integrity.

          • Layla

            Bundy is the last rancher out there. The others have all been driven off by the feds. As far as I am concerned, the terrorists are in Washington. The rights must always go to the citizens. You clearly do not understand the Constitution.

          • mikem42

            You make me laugh, as if you know a damn thing about the Constitution. You would see that the Federal government retains certain rights, and they (we) own that land. Bundy is by far not the last rancher, there are hundreds more, and most of them have spoken out against him, due to his failure to pay his share. They do, and he cheats, gaining unfair advantage when selling his cattle. Nice try. Wondering now if you pay your fair share of taxes, or are you a taker?

          • Layla

            Why do the feds own this land, Mike? Why should the feds own any land? This is open range. If the feds don’t want his cattle on it, then fence it. And yes, I pay my taxes. Why is it necessary for you to attempt to assassinate the character of anyone who disagrees with you?

          • Andre Leonard

            Well said and well presented. Spot-on.

          • mikem42

            Why indeed do the “Feds” own many, many national parks, forests, monuments and the such. This is no different, and has been this way from the beginning of Nevada and much of the west. They manage the land, replant it and clear it, in order that the other farmers who do use it can do so. You threaten the “Feds” if they show up again, and wonder why you are suspect. Fees are what keep our national treasures open and accessible to the public, to preserve them for perpetuity. They are not the enemy. You say the terrorists are all in Washington. Who is smearing whom?

          • Layla

            In the early days, this was all open range. I’m from the West, Mike. I have also worked for the federal government. I’m not threatening anybody, so don’t put words in my mouth, please. I’m saying that excessive force is being used and that’s wrong. And it’s unnecessary.

          • mikem42

            In the early days we also had slavery. E pluribus Unum.

          • Jerad Miller

            Now, please explain to me how that is our land? Is it not rightfully the Native Americans land? Do not forget that this land was stolen with bloodshed. We put these people in oversized gulags in a sense. The people out there to not want war or anarchy. They want real rule of law. They want the government to obey the law set before them in the constitution. The constitution only grants the fed gov to own land for military bases, emergency shelters, capital buildings, shipyards and armories. Do you see any of that in the 80 plus percent of land the fed gov claims ownership of? I think not. the point is, if the fed gov is not going to adhear to the law set forth to them by the people. Why should we acknowledge their legitimacy?

            So, we refer to the very first document ratified by the congress, the declaration of independence. Now read this very carefully and take special note of the crimes of king George and then take a close look at the crimes our federal government commits.

            The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription

            IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

            The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

            When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

            We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

            He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
            He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
            He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
            He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
            He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
            He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
            He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
            He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
            He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
            He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
            He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
            He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
            He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
            For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
            For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
            For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
            For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
            For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
            For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
            For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
            For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
            For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
            He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
            He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
            He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
            He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
            He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

            In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

            Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

            We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor

          • mikem42

            Jerad, you really should take your argument to the Supreme Court, and also get a new life, because you are really up a creek. Why is it that your kind of anti government types think you are expert Constitutional Scholars. We did commit atrocities against the American Indians, but laws have been written, passed and held up in courts across the land to temper the actions of both the government and its people. Don’t lecture me or anyone on the Constitution because you have no clue

  • Layla

    When did it become ok in this country to use excessive force? Why couldn’t a sheriff have handled this? Hopefully, Congress will not ignore this. We now have militarized police forces in this country killing people without any repercussions. Something is WRONG here. Please don’t ignore it.

    • mikem42

      Excessive force is used everyday in every state where arrests of minorities take place. When did it become okay for armed non law enforcement citizens to face off against the legal law enforcement? If you don’t think the Federal government has jurisdiction, you need a lesson in civics. The Bundy family has been cheating every other law abiding, fee paying rancher out there, which gives him an unfair advantage. Why is he special, and why should anarchists stand with him? If you don’t believe in Federal rights, then just try to live your life without the benefits they provide.

      • Layla

        If those federal forces show up again in Nevada, you’ll get your civics lesson. This has nothing to do with whether or not Bundy is guilty and EVERYTHING to do with an all powerful, overreaching police state. And I’ll gladly live without the feds, thank you. Only a DC Congressional staff member could make an arrogant comment like that.

        • mikem42

          Layla, you are a fraud. If the federal forces show up again, justice will be done. I am a veteran, having served 4 years in the military of this country. I followed my orders even when I didn’t feel like it, because that was the law. This character Bundy is not worth backing, and your sabre rattling tells me you are a crackpot. Live without the feds you say? Please move to a country where you can do that. Maybe Putin’s Russia, he is such a “strong” leader. You will then see what a police state really is.

          • Layla

            Navy wife of 30 years, Mike. Definitely NOT a crack pot.

          • mikem42

            Not a crackpot, just a person who thinks the Federal Government should have no authority over the lands it (we) own, and better not try to enforce the laws of the land or else. Yeah, that’s not a crackpot.

          • Layla

            Ever heard of property rights, Mike? Enforcement of the laws is fine, but not with an army.

          • mikem42

            I have indeed, and the property in question is wholly owned by the U.S. Government and all of it’s citizens, and is managed by the B.L.M. for their benefit. The folks with all the guns were not B.L.M., and had no authority to be there confronting the legitimate carrying out of a court order. I have seen the full video of what took place. Anarchy has no place in America. Peace.

          • Jerad Miller

            This is the first part of the constitution. The first thing ratified by congress. Remember that our founders knew this day would come and gave us the tools to rightfully take up arms against them should they become tyrannical. Pay close attention to George’s crimes and tell me our government does not carry out those same transgressions.
            The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription

            IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

            The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

            When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

            We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

            He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
            He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
            He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
            He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
            He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
            He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
            He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
            He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
            He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
            He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
            He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
            He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
            He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
            For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
            For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
            For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
            For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
            For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
            For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
            For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
            For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
            For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
            He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
            He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
            He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
            He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
            He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

            In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

            Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

            We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor

          • mikem42

            Jerad, please stock up and go to your shelter. We’ll tell you when to come out.

          • mikem42

            BTW, we are a Republic, which means we elect representatives to act on our behalf and cast votes and pass laws. We don’t have the wild west lawlessness that is being defended by yourself and others who seem to be afraid of the big bad Government.

          • Layla

            We don’t agree, you’re doing the name calling and I’m the fraud?

          • mikem42

            I think you forget your first or second screed when you said I must be a what, congressional aide or something of that sort.

          • Layla

            Frankly, I’m amazed that anyone would think this kind of force is acceptable. And you are right, calling you a Congressional aide was a huge insult. I apologize.

          • mikem42

            I’ll end this friendly difference of opinion on this note. The force present was largely of the supporters of Bundy, and a small contingent of law enforcement, who were trying to help enforce the court order. One anarchist had his AK-47 and said he would “lay down his life” to support the scofflaw. Let’s hope it plays out without any loss of life. And, the insult may be to the Congressional aide! lol btw I am a boyhood friend of Joe Biden. Maybe that is why we seem to be at loggerheads. He was from a great family and his Mom took all us neighborhood kids to church every Saturday to confession. I think cultural differences make folks see things in different lights, do you think?

  • ShadrachSmith

    Shooting Americans is an evil to be avoided, not a bureaucratic decision to be justified.

    Question: At what level does the BLM need authority to shoot a citizen for trespassing?

  • stevenharnack

    What does the Constitution or the Bill of Rights have do do with paying your bill and living up to your end of a contract to graze on public land? If you had renters who wouldn’t pay you’d have the sheriff toss ‘em out. Your just another freeloader wanting something for nothing and now you’re a psychotic law breaker too.

    • Layla

      It has to do with DUE PROCESS. In the early days, those feds would have been hung for stealing cattle that wasn’t theirs.

  • pitch1934

    I’m sure that if would agree with Mr. Bundy, if he would allow unfettered access to what ever land he owns.

    • Layla

      It’s open range.

      • pitch1934

        What you are saying is that Bundy owns no land but expects to feed his cattle and make a profit on the government/taxpayer dime, correct?

        • Layla

          I’m not going to comment on Bundy’s legal troubles. The issue here is excessive force. Reid has no business even commenting unless he is somehow involved and if that is the case, he needs to be investigated.

          • pitch1934

            Reid is (A) a Senator representing Nevada and therefore (B) a citizen of Nevada. He has a stake in this as per his office and residency.

  • Layla

    The issue here isn’t whether Mr. Bundy is guilty or innocent. The issue is that the feds had no right sending an army in to deal with this. It is the job of the local Sheriff. If he’s not up to the job, he needs to be voted out of office. This country is rapidly reaching the point where the people feel the government is becoming lawless. When that happens, the Constitution gives the people the right to overthrow their government. It’s called LIBERTY.

    • Jerad Miller

      The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription

      IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

      The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

      When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

      We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

      He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
      He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
      He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
      He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
      He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
      He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
      He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
      He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
      He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
      He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
      He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
      He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
      He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
      For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
      For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
      For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
      For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
      For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
      For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
      For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
      For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
      For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
      He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
      He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
      He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
      He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
      He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

      In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

      Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

      We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor

  • Jerad Miller

    For all of you who think the federal government has the power to do this. I’m going to refer you to the very first part of the constitution and the first document ratified by congress, the declaration of independence.

    The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription

    IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

    The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
    He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
    He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
    He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
    He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
    He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
    He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
    He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
    He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
    He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
    He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
    For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
    For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
    For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
    For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
    For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
    For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
    For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
    He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
    He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
    He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
    He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

    In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

    Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

    We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor

  • ShadrachSmith

    Shooting Americans is an evil to be avoided, not a justifiable part of enforcing land management policies.

  • druid0621

    The real domestic terrorist is Harry Reid, who will not let the Senate take up any measure passed by the people’s House of Representatives. He and his ChiCom friends will be the death of us.

  • Carol Findlay

    This GOP trash believes their petty prejudices and personal grievances with this one president are more important than the lives of 3 million Americans, plus their spouses and children. 3 million Americans, including nearly 300,000 veterans. The whole purpose is to obstruct and stonewall every single thing this president wants to do, no matter who it hurts, no matter who it kills. I already know one woman whose husband shot himself on April 6th–a husband, father, and grandfather–because of how much his life unraveled in just 13 weeks with no income. The GOP didn’t even need Democrats to finally convince the majority of Americans that the Republicans have all got to go. The GOP did that themselves. Thanks.

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