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October 7, 2015

Murray-Ryan Budget Deal Overcomes Key Senate Test

The bipartisan budget agreement is officially on a glide path to enactment.

The deal will provide appropriators with top-line spending levels just a bit above $1 trillion for each of two years while dulling the blade of the sequestration ax.

The package easily cleared the 60-vote threshold to limit debate, 67-33, with a dozen Republicans joining Democrats to cut off a potential filibuster: Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, Roy Blunt of Missouri, Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, Susan Collins of Maine, Jeff Flake of Arizona, Orrin G. Hatch of Utah, John Hoeven of North Dakota, Johnny Isakson of Georgia, Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, John McCain of Arizona, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Rob Portman of Ohio.

“This bill isn’t exactly what I would have written on my own, and I’m pretty sure it’s not what Chairman Ryan would have written on his own. It’s a compromise — and that means neither side got everything they wanted, and both sides had to give a bit,” Senate Budget Chairwoman Patty Murray, D-Wash., said Tuesday morning.

She hammered out the deal with lead House negotiator and Budget Chairman Paul D. Ryan, R-Wis. The two have lobbied for the deal to get the needed votes in both chambers.

“If we didn’t get a deal, we would have faced another continuing resolution that would have locked in the automatic cuts — or worse, a potential government shutdown in just a few short weeks,” Murray warned.

A budget agreement alone doesn’t entirely rule out the possibility of another CR, though appropriators such as Murray will be working with staff to avoid that.

The House vote last week was rather lopsided, with a total of 332 members voting in favor.

The relatively small number of Senate Republicans backing the cloture vote can be attributed to several factors, including opposition to military pension changes criticized by veterans groups.

A number of GOP senators, led by Roger Wicker of Mississippi, drafted an amendment to the deal to block those changes, but since the deal between Murray and Ryan was baked, there will be no such amendments.

“These proposed cuts represent a broken promise to those who have voluntarily chosen to serve our nation in the military,” Wicker said in a Monday statement. “This is not a matter of nickels and dimes for our retired and active-duty troops. It is unfair to ask the men and women who wear the uniform of the United States to shoulder the full weight of these cuts. It is not too late for Congress to keep its promises to our military personnel.”

When the final vote is called later this week, the deal may get even fewer Senate Republicans voting in support, but that’s in large part because as the minority party they can afford to oppose it, scoring political points without the risk of setting the stage for another government shutdown.

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  1. Karen

    Dec. 17, 2013
    10:36 a.m.

    Republicans lose the military and veteran vote. Bush won vet vote in 2004 by 16, Romney/Ryan tied with Obama/Biden.

    Republicans are losing swing states because veterans no longer trust them. Military and Veteran vote is bigger than hispanic vote.

    Paul Ryan voted for 2 wars he didn’t pay for then cut pension benefits for veterans.


  2. JB Smith

    Dec. 17, 2013
    10:47 a.m.

    and JNLWD are partnering with Virginia State Police and local police implanting
    people with biochips. Read “A Note
    on Uberveillance” by M. G. and Katina Michael. it enables Uberveillance. “In its ultimate form, überveillance
    has to do with more than automatic identification technologies that we carry
    with us. It has to do with under-the-skin technology that is embedded in the
    body, such as microchip implants; it is that which cuts into the flesh – a
    charagma (mark). Think of it as Big Brother on the inside looking out.” Newport News Police and Virginia State Police
    had a doctor implant me w/o my knowledge and consent with a biochip. A U. S.
    Attorney for the NSA/DOJ pretended to be my attorney. It enables torture and thought monitoring.
    They use it as a sensor and pulse energy projectiles at you. I had a heart
    attack. It enables voice to skull communication. See LRAD white papers or audio
    spotlight by Holosonics. Law enforcement
    believes we will only be safe if they know where we are at all times, what we
    are doing and what we are thinking! See Safeguards in a World of Ambient
    Intelligence by Springer page 9. See Mental Health and Terrorism by Amin
    Gadit. He states, “Of late, there are reports of a new and
    dreadful invention of weapons of violence that are called Bioelectromagnetic
    Weapons. According to the description by an Institute of Science in Society,
    these weapons operate at the speed of light, can kill, torture and enslave
    without making physical appearance. It further adds that voices and visions,
    daydreams and nightmares are the most astonishing manifestations of this weapon
    system, it is also capable of crippling the human subject by limiting his/her
    normal range of movement, causing acute pain the equivalent of major organ
    failure or even death and interferes with normal functions of human senses. It
    can cause difficulty with breathing and induce seizures besides damage to the
    tissues and organs. Through this form of terrorism, it is possible to persuade
    subjects that their mind is being read; their intellectual property is being
    plundered and can even motivate suicide or murder. Pulsed Energy projectiles
    (PEPs) are another form of weaponry that is used to paralyze a victim with
    pain. According to Peter Philips, a scientist from USA, circumstances may soon
    arrive in which anti-war or human right protestors suddenly feel a burning
    sensation akin to touching a hot skillet over their entire body. Simultaneously
    they may hear terrifying nauseating screaming, which while not produced
    externally, fills their brains with overwhelming disruption. This new invention
    is dreadful addition to the armamentarium of weapons of abuse and torture.
    Manifestations of the effects of these occult weapons can mimic mental ill
    health and add further to the misery of the victims.” See Bio Initiative
    Report 2012. See Forbes and search Brandon Raub. Law enforcement tases citizens
    into “excited delirium” (see at nij org) to make them act in ways
    they normally would not. I believe they are directly responsible for the Virginia
    Tech massacre. There are 3 reasons to have it implanted 1) mental health, 2)
    criminal record, and 3) infectious disease. If you don’t meet any of those
    requirements like me, they’ll falsify your records. All the mass shootings are
    the work of law enforcement. They want to take away your right to bear arms and
    make America a police state. People aren’t suddenly going crazy, they’re
    being tortured. I also believe the biochip to be responsible for PTSD. Read Brian Castner’s book “A Long
    Walk”. I have the same ambiguous
    pains, twitches, heart attack, night mares, day mares, gurgling, etc. I never served in the war. What do we have in
    common? The biochip. Suicide is one way to get relief. Virginia’s suicide rate is higher than the
    national average and the military suicide rate is unacceptable! You can check
    your upper right buttock, upper right shoulder.
    They are just under the skin.

  3. T.A. Conscience

    Dec. 17, 2013
    12:09 p.m.

    Twenty-eight billion in cuts over 10 years? When you owe TRILLIONS that is no budget. It’s a waste of time and proves the budget writers are insincere in their efforts. We don’t buy the anything is better than nothing lie.

  4. Doug Watson

    Dec. 17, 2013
    12:26 p.m.

    Keep up the pressure Harry!!!

  5. davidfarrar

    Dec. 17, 2013
    1:41 p.m.


    The excuse of raising spending to avoid another government shutdown by the Paul & Patty sellout show is just excuse to end the sequestration limits in order to spend more by both the Democrats and the Establishment Republicans in Congress. My source: Marc A. Thiessen’s Washington Post article, entitled: “Budget deal shows the GOP has PTSD”.*

    The moral of his story: There is a big difference between standing your ground to change the “law of the land” and standing your ground to defend the “law of the land”. “Are Democrats really going to shut down the government in January to bust spending caps they voted for and Obama signed into law? Of course not.”…Marc A. Thiessen

    The Tea Party was right, while Boehner and the Paul & Patty sellout show was wrong: House Republicans should have stood their ground. The part that many Tea Party supporters don’t know, however, is that Boehner & company also knew, or should have known, the government shutdown threat wasn’t a real threat, but it was, they still believe, good enough to hide behind to accomplish what their corporate-donors wanted them to do…end the sequestration limits.**

    So now we know the Senate Republicans who would also cross over party lines to support the Paul & Patty sellout show to sellout their country.***

    1. Lamar Alexander (Tenn.)
    2. Roy Blunt (Mo.)
    3. Saxby Chambliss (Ga.)
    4. Susan Collins (Maine)
    5. Jeff Flake (Ariz.)
    6. Orrin Hatch (Utah)
    7. John Hoeven (N.D.)
    8. Johnny Isakson (Ga.)
    9. Ron Johnson (Wis.)
    10. John McCain (Ariz.)
    11. Lisa Murkowski (Alaska)
    12. Rob Portman (Ohio)

    No amnesty.
    No deficits.
    No Obamacare, Hora!

    ex animo
    * See: “Budget deal shows the GOP has PTSD” in the Washington Post:
    ** See: Lockheed may revise 2014 outlook if U.S. budget deal passes:
    *** See: “China threatens ‘nuclear option’ of dollar sales” The Telegraph, United Kingdom:

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