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December 19, 2014

Reid Predicts Obamacare Will Prove Beneficial in 2014 Elections

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(Douglas Graham/CQ Roll Call)

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid argued Tuesday that Obamacare would prove beneficial to Democratic senators facing re-election in 2014 by the time next November rolls around.

“I think it’s going to be good for them,” the Nevada Democrat told KSNV-TV in Las Vegas. “By that time, there will be a lot of people on it that have already signed up. It’ll be fine.”

“We have 21 Democratic senators that are up, and … we’re watching two or three of them closely, but to take over the majority they’d need six seats,” Reid said of Republican hopes to retake the Senate. “I’m not cocky, but I am comfortable where we are. I think we’re in pretty good shape.”

In the interview, Reid mentioned that he had been on a conference call Sunday with a number of senators and White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough to discuss the bungled rollout of the health care overhaul’s insurance exchanges.

Reid also sought to further clarify what’s become among the most contentious claims in the health care debate, saying that President Barack Obama was accurate in saying people could keep their health insurance plans if they like them, noting plans are only effective for one year anyway.

“Remember what the president said: ‘If you like your insurance, you can keep it.’ There is nobody in America that has the same insurance that … they had when he said this. We’ve had three different years. The policies are only for one year,” Reid said.

“I still go back and say what I said earlier,” Reid said. “What he said was true. If you want to keep the insurance you have you can keep it. The problem is … we did not put the bill into effect that way. There’s a lot of administrative things that kicked in, and there have been three changes in anyone’s policy since then. It’s not the same policy.”

  • PortageMain

    Reid Predicts Obamacare Will Prove Beneficial in 2014 Elections
    “What he [President Obama] said was true. If you want to keep the insurance you have you can keep it.”
    Proof that Rob Ford is not the only North American political leader on crack

    • 1108

      Better yet….
      Ford’s approval rating 11/27/2013 42% (Forum Research, Toronto)

      Obama’s approval rating 11/27/2013 37% (CBS)

      • NM_PollFan

        Cherry pick much? That poll is OLD!

        The more recent ones :

        Gallup 12/1 – 12/3 1500 A 41 51 -10
        Rasmussen Reports 12/1 – 12/3 1500 LV 44 55 -11
        The Economist/YouGov 11/30 – 12/2 1000 A 39 57 -18
        Reuters/Ipsos 11/22 – 11/26 1191 A 38 56 -18
        CNN/Opinion Research 11/18 – 11/20 RV 41 57 -16

        But you knew that didn’t you…you were picking the data that best fit your ideological bend, a common problem among conservatives, the one that led directly to the great surprise of 2012!

        The moral, never trust a conservative or an idiot when they present you with data!

        • 1108

          41, 37 what’s the difference?

        • Brian Smith

          So you are saying never trust a conservative or President Obama when they present you with data.

  • Layla

    I can PROUDLY say I haven’t met anyone in EITHER PARTY who will vote the way they did last time.

    Democrats are going to lose on this because of the chaos it is causing. YOU ARE BLIND, MR. REID.

    Rinos are going to lose because they have sat back and watched this disaster happen.

    Repeal and INDICT.

    • CFL68

      lol

      Glad to see everyone has their priorities straight.

    • Nixonfan

      No, no repeal, not now anyway. This is playing out beautifully for the GOP. Once we have the Senate and the WH we can fix this monstrosity. But not now, not from the House alone.

      • NM_PollFan

        You are not going to get the Senate…you have not won anything in over three years, you were just swept from statewide office in VA less than a month ago….your approval rating is at 26% and you have delusions of grandeur, people still do not like you!

        • Joe

          Super-majorities in both Senate and House in 2014. Whitehouse 2016. Then, please move to the center where government belongs.

  • bolo.sete

    reid let his people ‘opt out’. is that NOT newsworthy? or is sidney’s old paper in the bag for obama rhama?

  • Melissa Lanza

    “Reid Predicts Obamacare Will Prove Beneficial in 2014 Elections”

    Yeah…for Republicans.

  • Wyomingdude

    Reid says that Obama didn’t lie because you listened to the literal meaning of what he told the American public. Period.

    This politics stuff is easy. Lie, and then claim it isn’t a lie because the listener is stupid.

    • Joe

      Shall we tar and feather, or lynch?

      • Layla

        How about all 3?

  • Ruttles Rohan

    You mean the very same Harry Reid that exempted his own staffers from Obamacare? Really? If it is sooo super double plus good….why did he exempt his own staff?

    • deydey

      “Reid Predicts Obamacare Will Prove Beneficial in 2014 Elections”

      which is why one dem senator mark Pryor is invoking the Bible and God – Anathema to left wingers…LOL

      Dinghy reid off his rockers again…

      • Joe

        It will prove “beneficial”…to the Republicans.

    • PragmaticNotPoliticalSolns

      I love the “1984″ reference, Obama and Reid have determined they have executive privilege to make the law say what they want it to

  • DaGeek

    Best news for Republicans I’ve heard in years. Reid and DWS and the prez all doubling down on this abject failure. And next year’s anger, when tens of millions lose the “plans they like” will be 10x the anger exhibited this year. You’ll need to run unopposed to be elected as an Obamacare Democrat in 2014. But don’t listen to me, Dirty Harry!!

    • Nixonfan

      Poor DWS, she makes up in vitriol what she lacks in argumentation. She’s a super face for the DNC.

  • CFL68

    After weeks of failure, i finally signed up last night via healthcare.gov.

    The trick is to delete old application and start fresh. I was through in 30-40 minutes and Anthem already confirmed my new member ID effective 1/1/14.

    Looks like after a fiasco of a roll-out, things are getting on track. Interesting to see how it all shakes out…

    • Lance Sjogren

      What these clowns don’t get is that getting a website running was supposed to be the trivial part, with all the difficult pitfalls coming once large numbers of people were enrolled.

      Instead, they seem to think they have reached home plate when the frigging web site is up and running. It is astounding how incompetent these politicians are.

      • Joe

        After a very rocky take-off with engines sputtering and smoking I do not think I’d be taking the crew’s advice to “sit back and relax”. We have a long journey with huge mountains just ahead. The pilot is an amateur! I’d like to either get off now, or strap on the parachute! $hit! Why’d I get on in the first place!

    • FEDup!

      Your full of $heeet

      • CFL68

        Why would you say that? Are you having trouble with the site?

        • FEDup!

          YOU a scmuck! What about deductibles and copays? You dont even know you are registered w/Insurance Co. Cant wait until you go to a Dr and they say “who are you’?

    • LibLoather

      You might check your enrollment status in January. There was a news story just today which explained, because of another ‘glitch’, information was not being transferred from the insurance provider to the government website. Therefore, people who thought they were enrolled will not be. Just sayin’…

      • CFL68

        Anthem said that certain info like subsidy confirmations, etc., do take longer to arrive, but they confirmed I’m good, and already confirmed member ID. Its incumbent upon them to send me a bill. You can be sure I’ll keep an eye on it though.

        What’s tragic is that deep in your core you folks want this to fail.

        Sad. But whatever. Elections next year will be exciting eh?

        • LibLoather

          Obamacare is unsustainable, my friend. If you know anyone in Canada, ask them how they like the ‘service’. You may not be so cheerful when you realize exactly what you’re (not) getting.

          • CFL68

            Depends on who you talk to I guess. We do know that the rest of the developed world, and all our allies, have some form of universal healthcare that delivers comparable outcomes at half the cost per capita. This isn’t ideology. This is fact. Decades of evidence. We spend twice as much and achieve no significant benefit. That is what is not sustainable. I know its a fun narrative to pretend that Canada, Germany, Japan, Australia, France, UK, etc. all have awful healthcare systems and only the US can be #1, but there is no evidence that the average level of healthcare for the average person is better. Other countries actually exceed the US in many forms of cancer treatment. We spend twice as much, leave tens of millions uninsured or one hospital visit from financial catastrophe, and still spend twice as much.

            I’m ready to take a chance on another model that we know works. ACA is a step in that direction.

          • JIM

            I’m hear to tell Ya , they killed my mother earlier this year(botched a urine anaylsis=lightweight antibiotics=septic). Yup Canada has the best healthcare in the world…… until you get sick!!!!!

          • CFL68

            Sorry to hear that Jim. But a quick google search shows that hospital acquired infections happen all over the world, including the US. Apparently urinary tract infections are the most common:

            “The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated roughly 1.7 million hospital-associated infections, from all types of bacteria combined, cause or contribute to 99,000 deaths each year.[5] Other estimates indicate 10%, or 2 million, patients a year become infected, with the annual cost ranging from $4.5 billion to $11 billion. In the USA, the most frequent type of infection hospitalwide is urinary tract infection (36%), followed by surgical site infection (20%), and bloodstream infection and pneumonia (both 11%).[2]“

          • Joe

            Costs? What reforms have been put in place under ACA to effect costs? None.

            Quality? When you have more people demanding care from fewer docs, what direction will quality go? Down.

            Not to bust your bubble, but the logic that ACA will somehow reduce cost or improve quality defies the laws of supply/demand.

            Wishful, but not thinking.

          • LibLoather

            Do you have any links to support your statements?? I know it all sounds good on paper, but I have lived all over the world, and no healthcare system compares to the U.S., as flawed as it is. If you’re facts are correct, then why does the public oppose Obamacare by 66%??

          • CFL68

            What in particular are you disputing? There is an ocean of information at your fingertips. This one has pictures:

            http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/06/06/business/metrics-health-care-outlier.html?_r=0

            Here is one I hadn’t seen before:

            http://www.conferenceboard.ca/hcp/details/health.aspx

            The fact that we spend around 2X more per capita is established fact. Plenty of studies show that there are no corresponding improvements in outcomes, and many reports put us middle of the road at best compared to peers.

            The sad truth is we are #1 only in waste and spending.

            And for the record, the Boston Red Sox did not win the “World” series. They competed against only one foreign team, if a Canadian brand name with mostly US players is actually foreign…

          • timb117

            The World Health Organization ranks the US medical system as the 34th best in the world. You might have been to other countries, but you apparently were in the 3rd world or didn’t avail yourself of the services

          • Layla

            I live in a state that is FILLED WITH THOSE CANADIANS seeking healthcare in the US. Why is this happening if their’s is so great? That is NOT what they are telling us.

          • CFL68

            Sure, and there are americans who travel abroad for affordable healthcare. Stick with denial if you want. It works for lots of people:

            Public opinion[edit]

            Canadians strongly support the health system’s public rather than for-profit private basis, and a 2009 poll by Nanos Research found 86.2% of Canadians surveyed supported or strongly supported “public solutions to make our public health care stronger.”[9][10] A Strategic Counsel survey found 91% of Canadians prefer their healthcare system instead of a U.S. style system.[11][12] Plus 70% of Canadians rated their system as working either “well” or “very well”.[13]

            A 2009 Harris/Decima poll found 82% of Canadians preferred their healthcare system to the one in the United States, more than ten times as many as the 8% stating a preference for a US-style health care system for Canada[14] while a Strategic Counsel survey in 2008 found 91% of Canadians preferring their healthcare system to that of the U.S.[11][12]

            A 2003 Gallup poll found 25% of Americans are either “very” or “somewhat” satisfied with “the availability of affordable healthcare in the nation”, versus 50% of those in the UK and 57% of Canadians. Those “very dissatisfied” made up 44% of Americans, 25% of respondents of Britons, and 17% of Canadians. Regarding quality, 48% of Americans, 52% of Canadians, and 42% of Britons say they are satisfied.[13]

      • Layla

        Actually, the PAYMENT END has not been done yet. You can’t have insurance until the companies and exchanges are paid.

  • RadicalReductionist

    Maybe if they wrote it into the script of a remake “Planet 9 From Outer Space”
    (I would apologize, but this is all too funny and deserving!!)
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Plan_nine_from_outer_space.jpg

    • Nixonfan

      No one died in the making of that movie.

      • RadicalReductionist

        Well aware…but don’t expect the Dems to be concerned, they are not interested in body count unless there is a war?

        • Jesse4

          Body count?
          Are you talking about the tens of thousands of Americans that die every year from lack of medical coverage?

          Didn’t think so.

          • RadicalReductionist

            I was pretty explicit Jesse4, I said war, I guess I meant war. I even spelled it correctly, and used it logically. Not sure you thought that one out, you “didn’t think,” so!

            Jesse, life is tragic…no lifeboat is big enough. There are not enough resources over time to save and every growing number of people in the world. It will be those that can strive to safe themselves as the world population grows, as rates fluctuate.. Life is not a static sliver of time with a set population, life is dynamic and it has consequences, based on our decisions and choices.

            People do not die from a lack of insurance coverage, they die due to an ailment or accident or act of violence. To recover from any of them is due to choices in life that effects these people and/or their loved ones. Insurance coverage does not mean endless medical attention to address survival at the expense of others. Eventually anyone will die, even if there is insurance coverage!

            If we guarantee insurance coverage, what next? Guaranteed levels of medical resources to keep us alive? Should we take your hard earned money to keep me alive another day? Should we choose my child over yours or yours over mine with that last pill that will safe their life?

            There is not a loaf of bread big enough or a basket of fish deep enough to care for all. The only way is to teach people to fish and bake…and wish them well being and happiness!

          • RadicalReductionist

            Coverage is an insurance term. Health insurance has never been lacking for Americans. Whether or not they had coverage was not based on there being a lack of coverage. Life is tragic, just as war. We could count every person that dies as a statistic of the lack of, the misappropriate term, “coverage”. An endless well of medical science and expertise could keep people alive for another day longer. But eventually we all become a body count statistic. Now with Obamacare the so called millions are purchasing it under threat of tax or the need to take advantage of subsidies. The coverage has never been lacking, it is simply being forced on some people and handed out with free money to others. The fallacy in you little retort is inductive with progressives and underlies major fantasy of progressives: someone else will pay for it. How about you? Are you ready to pay for it by giving up all of you luxuries and live in a 12×12 room, if that, and wear the same simple clothes everyday and eat the same simple sustainance food day after day, just to maintain your utopia?

            I didn’t think so!

  • valwayne

    What Reid is saying, not very well, is that Obama, He, Nancy Pelosi, and every democrat in Congress lie when they told us “If you like your insurance plan you can keep your insurance plan, PERIOD”! He’s telling us just a plain as day that they LIED and LIED, and Defrauded us all, and now he is telling us that anybody that believed the LYING backstabbing democrats was just stupid. Don’t you know how insurance plans work? By the way, a lot of Senator Reid’s Senate staff have been given special exemptions by him. They will keep their Gold Plated Government Insurance plan and will not be forced into Obamacare like the rest of the Country. Not only is he an LIAR, but he’s a Elitist Hypocrite as well.

    • Layla

      Repeal and INDICT.

    • Joe

      First they lie (either stupid or just spouting party lines), then spin. Our new normal for political ethics has hit bottom. I don’t believe a word from any of ‘em.

    • Layla

      Why aren’t they going to PRISON, PRISON, PRISON? If they weren’t elected officials they would be.

  • PogueMahonelibs

    If you like your democrat senator you can keep your democrat senator. Period.

    • Layla

      Love it. Have decided NOT to keep mine!

  • Nixonfan

    Boy these people need better talking points! Don’t tell that me no one has written a script and that every Dem is on his own in trying to spin this fiasco.

  • diazontour

    I did not know that Nevada had passed Medical marijuana laws!

  • HAL 9000

    With all the punting (Barry talks of fumbles and quarterbacks, but he is most definitely a punter) of mandates and enrollments etc., Barrycares is going to be the gift that keeps on giving for Clowncrats.

  • KhadijahMuhammad

    Yea, it should help the Dims a lot.

    Just like that Iraq thing helped the GOP so much in 2008.

  • Lance Sjogren

    Too many Democrats auditioning for the Baghdad Bob role.

  • papal

    Harry Reid will be repeating this line all the way up to the beginning of Nov. Just call it Harry’s rant.

  • Historybuff

    Thats great. so why doesn’t this lying hipocrite get his folks on obamacare…. as well as his own tail-end?

    Sounds like harry thinks obamacare is good evough for the proletarians… but not good enough for the high commissars.
    HB

    • Layla

      It’s too bad we don’t have a Congress with the STONES to go after these people.

  • FEDup!

    Does anyone believe that start-ups like Amazon or Google would risk
    launching their programs before
    they were properly tested?” “There may be a lesson there if
    those involved[Congress and WH]could
    spend less time refining the talking points and more time actually
    trying to make things work.”

    if Obama, the president of the U.S. doesn’t follow protocol, many others
    will follow suit . leadingto chaos and anarchy.

    ObamaNot Yet Enrolled in Obamacare

    Ifthe people come to believe that the government is no longer
    constrained by the laws, then they will conclude that neither are they. That is why this is a very,very dangerous sort of thing for the president to do, to wantonly ignore the laws, to try to impose obligations on people that the legislature did not approve.

    thepresident has ordered ICE not to enforce clear immigration law and
    then made up work permits out of thin air.

    There are about five different violations, constitutional violations there.

    Under Obama Care, some discussion today, he[Obama] extended the employer mandate for a year,even though the law says “shall commence in each month after December of 2013.” He extended the individual mandate,

    stretched that out, and now the small package plans. There’s at least
    three times that he’s violated the Constitution with ObamaCare.

    He declared the Senate to not be in session to make his recess
    appointments, when the Senate was actually in pro forma sessions, and the Constitution says that the Senate shall make
    its own rules.
    That’s just some of the violations that we have. It is a long list from this
    president, an uber-president with no respect forlle respect for the Constitution itself,

    The
    president’s a constitutional law scholar. He should know this. But
    he’s grabbing as much power as he can.

    And
    unfortunately, we’re letting him do it in Congress. As one of the
    witnesses pointed out,This isn’t a Republican or a Democrat issue.

    Regardless
    of which party is in power in the White House and in Congress, the
    founding fathers intended for Congress to have certain powers. And
    President Obama is taking way more than the Constitution allows, and
    we have got to do what we can to stop him.

    I
    think the president has decided, Congress can’t challenge me, they
    can’t control me. He will spend money if he decides to.

    He’ll
    tax if he decides to. He’ll write regulations if he decides to. And
    he will defy the Constitution if he decides to.

    And
    we’re down to that “I” word. And it will be the American
    people who have to rise up.

    • Layla

      Oh, the American people WILL rise up. The only way out of this for the Dems is to repeal and IMPEACH.

      This is out and out FRAUD. The American people are totally fed up.

  • SheWhois

    So then why did he exempt his own staff???

    • Jesse4

      He didn’t.
      He couldn’t if he wanted to.

  • LibLoather

    I think Harry Reid died 3 years ago, and Schumer and Durbin are doing a “Weekend at Bernie’s” thing with his corpse.

  • zl28

    LOL……You will see just how much next year.

  • JJHLH

    Obamacare is for suckers. That’s why he and the Democrats lied to get it passed. Most people will pay higher premiums and larger deductibles for much narrower networks and poorer care. The nation’s top hospitals including the Mayo Clinic and the Cleveland Clinic aren’t even accepting Obamacare patients. Imagine the justifiable outrage when people find out their expensive Obamacare plans are junk that won’t allow them to use the best hospitals and doctors. If you are healthy and sign up for Obamacare you’re being played for a fool.

    • bwweinstein

      Right, Mayo and Cleveland Clinics are checking whether patients’ private insurance was purchased through an Obamacare exchange, and if it was, they won’t accept it. Sure they are. Typical right-wing fact-free nonsense.

      • JJHLH

        It is right. The limited access to the best doctors and hospitals is the next shoe to drop on the Obamacare disaster. An excerpt from the Washington Post article linked below:

        “The result, some argue, is a two-tiered system of health care: Many of the people who buy health plans on the exchanges have fewer hospitals and doctors to choose from than those with coverage through their employers.

        A number of the nation’s top hospitals — including the MAYO CLINIC Minnesota, Cedars-Sinai in Los Angeles, and children’s hospitals in Seattle, Houston and St. Louis — are cut out of most plans sold on the exchange.

        In most cases, the decision was about the cost of care.”

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/insurers-restricting-choice-of-doctors-and-hospitals-to-keep-costs-down/2013/11/20/98c84e20-4bb4-11e3-ac54-aa84301ced81_story.html

        • bwweinstein

          I would think Republicans would be delighted with this. The exchanges offer several levels, depending on what one can afford. Those who opt for the cheap options will have less coverage than those who can afford the gold-plated ones. Isn’t that how the free market is supposed to work?

          • JJHLH

            Even the gold and platinum Obamacare plans are junk and aren’t accepted by the Mayo Clinic (they only accept Blue Cross Silver, go figure).

            And a free market doesn’t impose IRS penalties on those who choose not to participate. I don’t know what to call Obamacare other than a disaster.

          • bwweinstein

            Amazing. If the government provided free bus passes to help people get to work who can’t afford a car would you be complaining that they hadn’t been given Cadillacs?

          • fbowman

            Except that you think people who had insurance that was accepted at MAYO will now be happy when they pay more and don’t have coverage at MAYO. I think you’re a fool.

        • Jesse4

          The article is about insurers looking for the cheapest doctor/hospital networks. There is only one sentence in the whole story about a hospital not accepting some of the plans on the ACA. Now that all health insurance is “Obamacare,” it would be pretty impossible for hospitals to not accept it, wouldn’t it? You think they’ll stop accepting insured patients now?

          • JJHLH

            I’m confident we will hear plenty about providers not accepting patients with Obamacare plans once the new year arrives and this all takes affect. This is one of the many problems with the law. Providers are free to accept insurance contracts or refuse them, depending on the reimbursement rates they are offered. Some doctors are moving to a cash only concierge practice. The proportion is small, but growing. Approximately 1/3 of doctors refuse Medicaid patients currently, and a smaller proportion refuse Medicare patients.

            The problem is that there aren’t enough doctors. They don’t have the problem of lack of patients. Just the opposite, they are frequently overwhelmed. Obamacare adds tens of millions of patients to the system without increasing the number of doctors, nurses, or hospitals to take care of them.

  • sally

    LOL—if it is so great PUT YOUR STAFF ON IT HARRY.

    • Jesse4

      Uh, they are on it dummy.

  • goodbyecountry

    This guy has ZERO credibility since he lied about Obamacare and he exempted his entire staff from the crappy exchanges. Major FAIL>

    • Layla

      He deserves to be indicted, along with the fraud in the White House.

      • Jesse4

        You can’t indict someone unless they committed a crime of some sort. Making conservatives snivel isn’t a crime.

    • Jesse4

      Reid didn’t (and couldn’t if he wanted to) exempt his staff from the exchanges.
      Typical conservative statement: Whine and lie.

  • Edmund Burkes

    To paraphrase Lincoln re Gen. Grant’s drinking: “I’m going to find out whatever medication Reid is taking and send it all the other Dem politicians”

  • Joe

    Reid’s mumbo-jumbo and twisted logic is exactly why Congress ratings are low. Do-nothing-can’t-tell-the-truth BS. The Millinials have overwhelmingly indicated their opinion “throw all the bums to the street and start over”. Although I am much older, I tend to agree. Bums! Clean house in 2014!

    • Layla

      No, clean OUT THE SENATE, starting with the Dems, then Rinos.

  • Santiago Alemedia

    I love Obamacare and am all signed up–great coverage at 1/3 the price thanks to subsidy. I’ll be supporting its supporters in 2014, for sure.

    • fbowman

      Well now all we have to worry about is the 4,999,999 others that lost their insurance due to Obamacare.

  • 9corona

    Not sure what pisses me off more, the lie or the lies to cover-up the lie.

  • Likely_Suspect

    The paragon of truth & virtue hath spake – so let it be written, so let it be done. Y’all can get up off your knees now, he’s gone.

  • fbowman

    It’s so great he had to exempt his staff from it.

    • Jesse4

      No he didn’t.
      Nobody is exempt from Obamacare. You’re just reciting your mindless talking points without understanding, or caring about, the facts.

  • Brian Smith

    Interesting…. He isn’t up for reelection in 2014 is he? The poor man proves that there are times when even the village idiot will be allowed to speak.

  • Defend Liberty

    Although collectivists tend to claim that society has been “designed”, those of the liberty school understand that civilization has resulted from the decisions and actions of innumerable individuals over long periods of time.

  • Cort Arlint

    Obamacare does not have a good future, everyone is against it now. It can’t see how it’s going to help any dems this election cycle. Cort Arlint Nevada State Controller Candidate 2014.

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